What Every Parent Should Know About The TV Show Glee
An innocuous little show popped up on America’s tv screens late last year. Its name is “Glee” and it’s full of vibrant teens dealing with the gentle challenges of high school life. These are fresh-faced kids, hard working and motivated, who can break into song at the drop of a sweaty football. But is there more to this sugary pop of a series? Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations? What makes this show so popular?
An in-depth analysis of Glee will certainly raise the eyebrows of parents across America. It contains a surprising number of mature scenarios– from pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation. Glee goes out of its way to appear wholesome at first glance. The first 15 minutes of every episode is quite polite and that’s part of its success. It is colorful and cheerful with a scent of innocence. The message it seems to send is that teens should stay in school and aim for college. Yet beyond that (once the adults in the room tune out), it descends into a much darker place.
The Parents Television Council warns that Glee contains, “gratuitous sex, explicit dialogue, violent content, and obscene language. It is completely unsuitable for children.” This is reason enough parents should be tuning their teens out of Glee. But I would go even further– the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast. I sincerely believe that no person or organization should continue to finance this show.
SEXUALITY, SPORTS AND SHOWTUNES
To understand the dangerous implications of this poorly conceived series, let me start with the characters. They are just not believable. All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life. The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.
Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?
Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance. But it’s not convincing on that million-dollar stage. They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.
Ultimately, these ad hoc songfests give children a very false impression about talent and success. They are led to believe if they just spin around and shout, they’re creating world-class music. They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true. Some people are born with the vocal chords for music, others have the bodies for football and others have the brains for math. That is reality. But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.
On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club. If children take this belief to heart, it could wind up seriously hurting their chances of college survival as well as their health (sports are essential for keeping fit, strong and attractive!).
Another major fault with the show is its fawning celebration of teenage homosexuality and consumer indulgence. Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
THE GOLDEN GIRLS CONNECTION
Recently, I wrote about studies that revealed the dangerous influence that the 1980s tv show “The Golden Girls” had on American men now in their 30s, 40s and 50s (see “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals”). The link between watching the Girls and increased risks of homosexual behavior was made abundantly meaningful. In a nutshell, the Golden Girls turned a generation away from procreation. It made our American boys into the most raunchy, campy, carnal people on the planet. If, as a society, we could have returned to the 80s with what we know now and stop that show, American culture might be drastically different today.
As I write about Glee now in 2010, I can’t help but think that America is on the threshold of another dramatic cultural shift. If we let this show continue, our children will find a way to watch it. It is a drug that is that addictive. If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be? How many middle-aged men will find themselves in a dead-end Glee-based lifestyle? Will they be ostentatious and sensitive, their dreams smashed up against a wall crying out to have that giant hole in their souls stuffed with some musky foreign thrill? Will they be violating what’s left of our traditional cultural landscape with unimaginable high-tech perversions, drenching, nay drowing the bright young men of tomorrow in their relentless sauces of net porn and showtunes, maximized liberties and stem-cell party drugs? Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist? Change the channel my friends. Change the channel and change the world!
PARENT’S GUIDE TO THE CAST OF GLEE
- Football Player Finn: An implausible character who goes both ways– glee club geek and handsome football star. He reminds one of the old lady Sophia on The Golden Girls– a bit of a cute, befuddled sidekick with some comic lines, but not a central character in the best scenes on the show. I truly feel for the actor who performs this poorly-written role, though I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.
- Sue the Cheerleading Coach: Her acting comes across as pretentious and egomaniacal and possibly too masculine (is this intentional?). Tone it down a bit, that’s my advice. Bea Arthur of The Golden Girls has already done everything and anything you could possibly imagine doing in your career, Sue.
- Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.
- Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.
- Mercedes Jones: Her sassy attitude does not set the right example for today’s young girls. She does sing well, and I appreciate that but I really don’t think this show is the right fit for her career. She really sticks out like a sore thumb. I could see her in a church choir, however. Or maybe play the wheelchair role?
- Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.
- Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.
- Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often? Is this supposed to be funny?
- Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.
- Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly.
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Author: Stephenson Billings
Stephenson Billings is an Investigative Journalist, Motivational Children's Party Entertainer and Antique Soda Bottle Collector all in one special, blessed package! Facebook me here or Fanmail me: StephensonBillings@yahoo.com !
11:46 am
I’m taken aback by how misinformed this post is. I suggest actually watching a show before trying to convince other parents what they should know about it.
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I want to chime in here. I’m a parent of two girls, 11 and 13 and I do not let them watch this program. When it first came out, I saw it and it was very sexual and more like something older teens and adults would watch. I think its hard when you’re a parent to draw the line. They all want to be like the older girls and this program tries to get girls like that. We are a Christian family and I do not think there is any respect for that in the show. There are a lot of scenes where they mock the Christians and Faith. Its a bit disappointing coming from Fox. And I have a personal problem with the boys on this program. There are definitely gay topics and if you worry about that you should not watch or have your kids watch. Its getting harder to find something decent in prime time now that sex is everyway. The game shows and dancing with the stars are worth watching.
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I couldn’t agree more.
Thank you parent.
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Dancing WIth The Stars? Really?
Clearly you do not watch any of the latin weeks…
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Quick: better hide under your pillow! You wouldn’t want your kids to see an experience too much in this world!
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your going to jail
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and if anyone sees the real adam nelson ( his link is afr ) tell him his favorite pagan warlock is back and looking for him
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I agree there going to jail but how retarded can the ones who wright these blogs cause they be fucking idiots If you guys are so fucking christany go burn the pagan
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…that doesn’t even make any sense! Why the bad photoshop? Why can’t you tell the difference between “your” and “you’re”? Why would they be going to jail?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?
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You definetly have something against gay people! WHAT’S WRONG WITH BEING GAY!?! ‘Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?’ no, it just is not. I think you 1st should watch the show before saying this kind of things. And maybe they did not cast women who really are 16 because of the law! My girls are 12 and 13 and I want them to watch this show, so they can learn to respect one another, even if they are not like the most people. Because that’s what this show is about! It’s about outstanding people! For example in the last show one ‘popular’ cheerleader says that she like to be in glee-club, and that is because she learned to know those people and so the show learnes you not to judge on the outside. That’s something YOU don’t understand. And Artie is the best male singer and maybe the show has ‘far to many musical numbers’ because it IS a show about music. You have to many prejudices and nobody here should take an example from this blog. You’re not a good role-model for the next generation!
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Madam,
The Bible is abundantly clear on what is wrong with being gay.
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Go read the bible, you fucking retard. Being gay isn’t a sin, giving in to your ‘sinful lusts’ is. Why the fuck would a god just create a sinner who can’t help but be a sinner because THAT IS WHO HE IS and has to lie to himself to not sin? Isnt that a sin?
also you’re all niggers.
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harold camping… aren’t you the nutcase preacher that “predicted” the end of the world on May 21st 2011??
well here we are, june 27 2011. LOL NICE TRY DUMBASS. i wouldn’t EVER listen to anything you have to say because clearly you have NO IDEA! xo
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Can you please tell me when Jesus is coming? You can’t be wrong FOUR times, can you???
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Do you have any clue what 11 and 13 year olds talk about at school? Do you remember being a kid at all?
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And do you Sean think it’s appropriate for a grown man such as yourself to be so infatuated with a tv show about little boys?
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Stephenson, that is a remarkable statement coming from someone who consistently writes about homosexuality and youth. Your descriptions of homoerotic moments on television is so detailed as to be positively enthusiastic. But generally, your intolerance of sections of the community is completely un-Christian.
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I wasnt sure if this article was a spoof of something a retarded christian might say, until i read your comment. I am truly in awe of your ignorance. I hope your influence over young people ends with writing articles on this web site, otherwise may a non-existent god help us!!
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I am truly heartbroken to see a topic like this, I am a 20yo PROUDLY gay male and I must say to you that after reading several of your post you seem to be consumed with a hatred for the gay community. Number one, as a CHRISTIAN myself it is sad to see people consumed with hate period whatever that hate is for. What is there of your life when it is consumed with hatred? Number two, Have you ever sat down with a regular gay male and spoken with him of the challenges he goes through daily or maybe the humiliation and abandonment issues he has for parents that disapprove of him (BECAUSE of post like this)? Better yet have you looked around at the people in our world, what good will hatred do when it consumes you, they kill or hurt people that are different, they emotionally batter us in places that ban other such violence, and they shun us in places that don’t allow “Verbal or Physical Harassment”. Now do you think we chose this lifestyle for its great appeal?? Lastly I would like to point out this exact same hate for homosexuals not in any group or persons, but in myself while i was in the closet. I have to ask if your are lashing out because inside you feel homosexual feelings and your parents, your family, your friends, your teachers, whomsoever scared or hurt you because of these feelings? I don’t want to know here but there are a number of anonymous hot lines that can help with the coming out process or just releasing these pent up emotions. The GLBT National Help Center 1-888-843-4564 or The Trevor Helpline: 1-800-850-8078 to name a few.
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talk about the pot calling the kettle black! YOU’RE the one obsessed with youth culture and gayety. Just come out already, you self hating gay.
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HAHAHAHA did you actually just say that?…
Are you REALLY accusing him of that simply because he likes the show? Honestly? It’s people like you who give bad raps for Chirstians. Please either learn the word of God or stop calling yourself a Christian. Jesus would never support you in any way if you made that argument to him. Stop embarrassing yourself and giving blind parents a reason to stop their children from watching this great t.v show. I’m strong 17-year old Chirstian and I know alot more about whats too much for kids than you. Stop enclosing yourself in a bubble and realize the world around you has changed. It’s not what it used to be 150 yrs ago… or even 30 yrs ago. It’s not this show that has a bad impact on kids, it’s people like you who do that.
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I respect your opinions. I will not be condescending or verbose.
As a concerned parent of two teenagers and school teacher, I read this article and was horrified to see all the nasty comments. I agree that the foul language and wild accusations are completely unnecessary. You certainly aren’t homosexual or a fool. You, Mr. Billings, said: “I have been incredibly decent and reserved thus far but you know I’m starting to get a little exhausted by you people,” and “I find it very interesting that you people harp on the one little typo of this article….” Very fair, reasonable things I would expect of an investigative journalist.
But sprinkled throughout your responses is an indication of extreme disrespect, particularly picking on those with poor writing skills:
I can’t believe that someone with the ridiculous name of “Jazmon”is telling me that my Christian faith is “like totally out of bounds”.
Thanks for sharing your third-grade education level with the internet. Hopefully you will learn basic grammar before your next post?
Irregardless isn’t a word? Oh, you must be plenty smart! Where did you learn this garbage? Did you even bother to consult a dictionary before you lied to the world?
You people are grotesque and frankly insane.
Thank you for showing us the maturity level of the average Glee fan.
Your maturity is a joke, as is your intelligence.
-Stephenson Billings
Yes, some of the posts you were responding to were nasty and lacking in substance. But your petty attacks on intelligence, grammar, maturity, names(!), etc., is just as bad because you attack them while denying their opinions! I encourage you to look past the hate, to the ideas hidden by that hatred. Then maybe you’ll be taken seriously.
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WHAT!? LITTLE BOYS! They’re playing seventeen year olds!
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I’m a 13 year old glee fan. I have a couple things to say to you Stephenson. Maybe girls like Rachel (not the whole gay dads part) need some encouragement because we need to know we belong some where. Maybe it has ” far too many musical numbers and extremely choreographed dances” because its about SINGING and DANCING!!!!!! What would this show be like if it had normal teens acting and normal teen dancing? I don’t think it would be a good show! Did you think about that? Plus, like, whats wrong with gay people? They are gods kids any way! I happen to think “gay” Kurt is awesome! I hope you actually watch the show before reveiwing it.
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lighten up! for gods sake. you are a terrible mother.
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what a crock of crap.
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Funniest opinion piece I’ve read since Gordon Liddy’s “Book”.
JP
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I’d heard sex was everywhere, but I was not previously aware it was ‘everyway’; could you explain more? I’d be very interested to hear about having it everway.
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Seriously?! I’m a 13 year old girl and Glee is my life. If your girls don’t learn about cursing, homosexuality, and sex, then I am 100% sure there learning it in school. Don’t you remember being our age at all?
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U go grl!!!
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Vocal CORDS, you illiterate twit, not vocal CHORDS. No wonder you can’t tell someone lip-synching from someone with an excellent voice.
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exactly. and author accuses artie of not singing… the actor was on broadway. of course they’re going to lipsync in the actual episodes.
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Next they’re going to say the Tele-Tubbies are gay!!!
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Aren’t they?
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oh and Bazinga
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I can’t believe I just read that entire article. The first thing I want to say is that the author is either very old or in some kind of fantasy land and never leaves their house or watches the news. You don’t want parents to let their kids watch this show because of a gay character, the fact that the football team showers after a game (its not like you see anything), a teen pregnancy and the decisions that come from that. Wow I just can’t believe what I read in that article. Maybe its cause I’m not religious (AKA BRAINWASHED) and just found this article from a random search but wow in today’s time/generation gay high school students and teen pregnancy is all to common. Seriously open your eyes and see the world for what it is.
To be completely honest I hope I have angered a few people with this comment, it means that you might just open your eyes and look outside your little closed-minded world.
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at first I liked this show the music was great but then the sexual theme became more and more prevalent, references to sex-ting charters actually talking about there sexually active lives as if it were a common occurrence in high schools as if all high school students were sexually active. Kids that age haven’t the maturity to be experimenting with sex and this show actively promotes sex….
I work in the hospitals and I see teenagers children 14 15 years old and pregnant unprepared and far to young to except the responsibility’s of parenthood. with so many parents absent from their children lives many children find shows like this one to be a source of guidance in there lives, how many children will end up as unwed mothers because of how this show has influenced there lives? and there decission making.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but sex is very much a reality for teenagers pretty much everywhere. It’s true that not all high-school students are sexually active, but I guarantee that every single one of them knows one who is. This is no different than it was when you were a teen, or your parents, or theirs.
The problem, however, is not that television shows which are designed to appeal to younger people who thrive on drama (much like soap operas are aimed at older people who never grew out of that phase)”actively promote sex.” In fact, I have yet to see a show that says, ‘hey kids, go out and have lots of sex because it’s the cool thing to do!”
No, it is parents who refuse to educate their children about sex at all that lead to the high pregnancy rates among teens, especially the 14 and 15 year-olds that you mentioned in your comment. Because let’s face it: abstinence only education only leads to early parenthood. This is just a fact. And the more you tell kids that they cannot do something, the more they are going to want to.
So instead of being appalled at the idea of your children actually being educated about the consequences of having sex, why not do your part to ensure that fewer young girls get pregnant or contract STDs by NOT trying to blind them to the real world.
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I think there is no more sex mentioned than in an average high school. These issues come up, a lot. And the shows messages aren’t all bad: two female characters have said “no” and been respected by their partners. Finn had sex and regretted not waiting for the right person. Quinn is not at all a “slutty cheerleader,” in fact, she was president of the celibacy club and condemned mention of the word “contraception.” She made ONE bad decision and got pregnant. For those of you who really think that your children should not be having sex in high school (though it’s likely they’ve at least discussed it with friends, even if they aren’t doing it), she is a good example of the NEGATIVE consequences. On the other hand she demonstrates the problems with abstinence only sex education.
Yes, there are some characters who are promiscuous. But any public school has those people, it’s not like you can put blinders up and never expose kids to them.
No where does this show actively encourage sex, but it does represent the reality of high school sexuality.
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Lol me too I just found this on google
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Best Satire Ever outside the Onion!
This is truly genius… how you can keep typing with a straight face is beyond me… not breaking character even once.
Just Brilliant… the whole site, funny as all get out, but this article puts it over the top.
And the fact that you are getting such impassioned responses… just amazing. That people would take you at your word shows that you have brilliantly portrayed the extremist Christian fundamentalist mind-set perfectly.
My hat’s off to you, sir. I especially like all the links… very clever.
And adding “The Golden Girls” to the mix? Genius.
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I love how much is NOT factual in this article. I believe you (Stephenson Billings) see everything homosexual in “Glee” because you are in fact a homosexual yourself.
P.S. This was the most entertaining piece of shit I’ve read in awhile. Good Job!
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ZING!
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OK. Seems this guy’s getting a lot of hate and while I understand why, I do agree with some of his points. Let me first say though: I’m 13, unlike most of the people commenting, and I’d like to think I’m intelligent enough to decide what shows I watch, without my parents telling me what will ‘corrupt my innocent mind,’ though they do try. That being said, I’ve recently stopped watching Glee because I don’t agree with it’s morals. I’m a Christian, and for all the messages about no discriminating, it sure makes Christians look like hypocrites and liars. Many of my friends have strong views, whether its Christian, or Hindu, or atheism. Being Christian doesn’t mean you’re brainwashed, as someone here said, and I was horrified when I read that. It’s a choice that you make on your own free will and for me and my friends at least, we agree with its morals and it makes us happy to serve a God so kind and strong and giving. He’s poured out blessing after blessing for me and my family, but I say, I can only try to share what I have with you; if you choose to reject it, it’s your loss.
My friend was watching Glee the other day, saying, I hope Emma gets Mr. Schuester. If anyone doesn’t know, Mr. Schuester is married. That made me sad… Making affairs and adultery look glamorous is commonplace nowadays, and noone does it better than Glee. They turn Mrs. Schuester into the ditzy, clingy wife, making viewers WANT Emma to end up with him, and no doubt they will. If I were a little less convinced about my morals, I might just think having an affair is okay, it’s glamorous, it’s all about the romance and when it disappears you move on to the next person… when you’re in a relationship, keep looking over your shoulder for someone better…
As for gays and lesbians, I have nothing against them, if it’s true. I object when it’s about lust, just as I object when it’s lust with straight people. Can’t stand people who discriminate, but lately, isn’t that what Glee is doing- shifting the hate (and I hate hate as much as the next person) onto Christians? I happen to know that the director, or someone of that sort, is gay and for that reason, dislikes Christians. Now, broadcasting your stereotype of them worldwide, collecting the hate and making life difficult for them, because of your own vendetta? Now isn’t THAT a little hypocritical from someone making a show based around equality?
^ Wow. I just read all that and realised how serious I sounded. Sorry for that, just had to get my point across, even if it was a little blurry~ Just a little insight from a teenager. xx
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Ok first i would like to say that i myself am 15 and i agree with what you have said about being self-dependant when it comes to what you watch because when i was 13 i felt that i was old enough to decide what i should, and should not be allowed to watch also. With that said i feel that i must oppose your veiws about this show, but before i do that i want you to think about something, do you watch The Secret Life of the American Teenager, or for that matter ANYTHING on either mtv or vh1? Be honest because i mean if you ar seriously going to sit there an try to comdenm Glee the you obviously have no clue what the world is really like!
In saying that Glee is a negative influence because of its supposed references to pre-marital sex, drug use, adultery, abortion, premature ejaculation, explicit homosexual experimentation. Considering the fact that The Secret Life of the American Teenager is about TEENAGE PREGNANCY i am honestly surprised that you and Mr. Stephenson Billings aren’t more interested in wasting your time putting down that show, and expressing thoughts, such as the ones already voiced above in this article, about how such shows should be canceled because, and i DIRECTLY QUOTE, ‘As I write about Glee now in 2010, I can’t help but think that America is on the threshold of another dramatic cultural shift. If we let this show continue, our children will find a way to watch it. It is a drug that is that addictive.’ There are very few thins that i can honestly agree with. Yes kids will find a way to watch it, but the thing is that the targeted audience of Glee are teenagers (ages 14-19) and adults of all ages. While Glee is not intended for the WHOLE family, The Secret Life. is a show for kids ages 10-18 and is shownn on ABC FAMILY!!!
In this show not only is there sex and pegnancy, but the producers overly encouraged the view of Ricky, the father of Amy’s child, as a guy who will openly sleep around with any girl who asks. As if that wasn’t enough Ricky’s father is a DRUG DEALER AND A REOCCURING CONVICT. Throughout the entire first season people constantly tell Amy that she shouldn’t have Ricky’s baby, and thatshe should get an abortion. I don’t know about you,but to me this show doesn’t seem to be morally right, and i say that as not only a proudly baptised and confirmd catholic girl,but also a girl in whom attened a private catholic grade school for 9 years, and currently attends a private catholic high school.
Katie, yes Mr. Schuester is married, yes he falls in love with Emma, but no the producers and of Glee are NOT trying to make affairs and adultery look glamorous. The producers of Glee do intentionally make Mrs. Schuester seem like, as YOU said, “the ditzy, clingy wife, making viewers WANT Emma to end up with him,” because this elementally characterization adds to the plot for that particular season. This is not only used in multiple movies and tv series, but it is also the MOST WIDELY USED way to distinguish characters in BOOKS too! For example, look at Mike Newton from the Twilight Saga, which i’m SURE you have read. Stephanie Meyers intentionally made him a very ordinary, unexciting, and kind of ditzy in order to intensify the attraction between Bella and Edward. The only reason the Mr. Schuester was still with his wife was because while he was considering getting a divorce, she told him that she was pregnant in order to try to bring her and her husband back together. Later we learn that she was never pregnant! Now when you say that you “might just think having an affair is okay, it’s glamorous, it’s all about the romance and when it disappears you move on to the next person… when you’re in a relationship, keep looking over your shoulder for someone better…” what you don’t realize is that Mr. Schuester tried to fight his attraction to Emma only because he felt that it was his OBLIGATION to his wife and supposed un born child. Knowing that he felt it was an obligation shows that he had no real interest in staying in that relationship and that he was only staying because he thought that there was a child, that he was going to be responsible for, on the way. Only when Mr. Schuester found out the truth did HE express how he felt, but unlike Mr. Schuester, Emma constantly shows that she likes Mr. Schuester.
I don’t see why you feel that Glee is discriminating against Christians, or as you said ‘shifting the hate onto Christians.’ Further more, what does it matter if the director, producer, screen writer, ect. is gay? Just because someone is gay, DOESN’T mean that tey dislike Christians. In today’s world there are gay Christians, just as there are gay Jews, Hidus, Muslims, ect., but as you can probably guess they are not widely broadcasted. So for the record it isn’t fair to assume that just because someone is gay they dislike christians. Now i know that there are those homosexual people who don’t exactly support the Christian Church, but when you sit back and look at the facts you will see that if nothing else the Christian Church, let alone the Christian community, discriminate agianst HOMOSEXUALS! Personally i am not offended by the idea of same-sex marriage, which i’m not trying to say that you are, but Christian Churches are the biggest opposing force against this issue.
If nothing else this show is one of the very few that is open to diversity and equallity. I personally see very few references to discrimination. I have to admit that there are some but they come in the form of stupid jokes for passer-bys in the hallway. But here’s the thing, NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO you will hear comments and jokes thatcan be taken as racist and discriminatory, wheather its a public school or a private school.
but hey i gues ignorance is bliss
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Dear Upperclassman,
Thank you for the essay. Unfortunately I don’t have time to watch every tv show, particularly not those daytime kiddie shows. And I’m not some rich liberal who can afford your fancy cable box so no, I don’t have MTv. Are you asking me to review this show, The Secret Life of the Teenager? Because it sort of sounds like you are. Why would I want to watch that trash? Pregnant drug dealers sounds like the worst thing imaginable.
I have to admit I am a much older man and your pop culture references go right over my head. The “Twilight” series is something I have not come across. I am not ashamed to admit I spend my nights reading Christian blogs and my Bible. I don’t care for vampires.
In general, after reading your lengthy comment, I must confess I was a bit sad. You seem to be giving a lot of advice about pregnancy and marriage and boys. Aren’t you a little too young to know about these things? Maybe you shouldn’t be watching all this television unmonitored. I really think the best solution here is for you to forward this article to your Mom so she can read it and understand the dangerous programs that you’ve become insanely obsessed with. I just hope you’re not dating boys already. Maybe your Mom will give you chores to keep you busy and away from the tv room.
Let me just add that I was very impressed at how well your letter was written, the complexity of your sentence structure and your word choice. You clearly are very intelligent and I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch. So, you definitely have a grand base of intellect on which to build on in the future. And I think it’s great you want to express you ideas in well-formed paragraphs, essay-style and not just through emotion-icons and chat room texts. The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.
Blessings on you!
Stephenson Billings
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Stephenson, I’m a 15 year-old male, been in Catholic school for 10 years now, and am proud of my faith. You could say I’m a liberal republican, or vice-versa a conservative democrat. So my first question is how do you know she is a democrat? Because she has a cable box? Because she supports rights for Homosexuals? You know it is possible to be a Christian Republican who supports equality for homosexual couples.
Second, The Secret Life of the American Teenager airs at 8 PM on ABC Family. First of, that’s not daytime. Second, I’m so sorry to hear that you can’t watch the show because you do not own a cable box. But, you do have an internet connection and obviously you are tech-savvy. Luckily, you can watch full episodes for free on abcfamily.com. Feel free to check them out sometime. Oh wait…the time issue. My advice would be to take a little time by stop gay-bashing for awhile to watch this show and compare it to Glee. It might turn out you find nothing wrong with it. But that’s your descion to make. I don’t think there are any homosexual themes in the show so you should be fine. It’s just drugs and sex, you should be ok with that.
Third, You think she’s obsessed with these programs? Oh the irony…
Lastly, I would like to thank you for responding to these messages with your input. I may not agree with it, but that’s my opinion. However, I would like you to open your mind to diversity. Jesus taught us to welcome all as our own. The Bible does speak out against homosexuality, but do you honestly think Jesus would appreciate your intolerance? But hey, maybe I am wrong about all this. We all have different interpretations of the Bible, and this is mine. “Do unto others as you would have them to to you.” Luke 6:31…Try that sometime.
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“Aren’t you a little too young to know about these things?”
Excuse me??? Upperclassman is 15 years old! I certainly hope that she knows about pregnancy, marriage, and boys by now! Judging by her age, she’s obviously begun menstruating. How can you be so asinine as to imply that a pubescent girl shouldn’t know what pregnancy is??? Kids as young as 4 know what pregnancy is, idiot! Kids usually learn about marriage at around that time, as well. And most likely they’ve discovered what a boy is by that age is as well, unless their parents have been keeping them locked in the basement or in a nunnery for their entire life!
“I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch.”
Hate to break it to you, but kids these days grow out of the “total dumbass” stage much earlier than they did back in the Bronze Age. Nowadays if a child older than age 6 is eating crayons there’s something wrong. Now please go crawl back under your rock and make some cave drawings for us.
“The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.”
And what exactly makes being a republican so much more appropriate for a 15 year old, you fat fuck?
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Allright now, I’m confused. Who is this “she” you’re referring to? I said cable box because “Upperclassman” was talking about MTv, that’s a cable show! And Teenager Family or whatever that show is called, I just assumed it was an after school special… I don’t even know if they still air those things. Anyway, why would I want to watch a sex and drugs show? What kind of lunatic are you? It’s not nice to befuddle your elders like this.
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Claire, you’re a bit overcharged if you really think it’s appopriate for 15 year olds to know all about marriage. I don’t know what they do in Liberal communities, but from where I’m from it’s a bit obscene for kids to know all about breast feeding and all that.
As for child development, I disagree. it seems like today kids are kids for much longer than when I was a youngster. Kids I knew helped out on their family farms as soon as they could walk practically. You’d be surprised how little these kids were when they learned to ride a horse. On the other hand, today children sleep in their parent’s attics and get money until they’re about 30 years old. Look at this so-called “hipster” style of 20 year olds today. It’s prolonger adolescence. Kids just having fun and doing nothing serious with their lives, avoiding marriage to have all sorts of sex all over the place and the drugs, etc. while their hardworking parents keep sending those checks to Austin Texas. It’s a crying shame what these children get away with. I’m sure your MTv shows that lifestyle every week.
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Well, from what I’ve heard about this website, it’s either the biggest Christian extremist website ever, or a great satire that rivals “The Onion”. Although I am a Christian myself, I find this article hilarious IF you are writing this as a satire. If you’re completely serious, I hope you escape your bubble of ignorance sometime and see the world for what it really is…And for others reading this “article”, please understand not all Christians are like this. Most of us our pretty chill, and don’t go gay bashing on Saturday nights.
So Stephenson, I’m guessing you won’t respond to this now that I think it’s a satire…but feel free to do so.
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Stephenson,
You seem to be giving a lot of advice about pregnancy and marriage and boys. Aren’t you a little too old to know about these things? Maybe you shouldn’t be watching all this television unmonitored. I really think the best solution here is for you to forward this article to your Mom so she can read it and understand the dangerous programs that you’ve become insanely obsessed with. I just hope you’re not dating boys already. Maybe your Mom will give you chores to keep you busy and away from the tv room.
Let me just add that I was very impressed at how well your letter was written, the complexity of your sentence structure and your word choice. You clearly are very intelligent and I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch. So, you definitely have a grand base of intellect “ON WHICH TO BUILD ON” in the future. And I think it’s great you want to express you ideas in well-formed paragraphs, essay-style and not just through emotion-icons and chat room texts. The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.
Blessings on you!
Sara Barker
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=100001366922231&ref=ts
I did a little investigating before i wrote a reply.
I think someone made a fake facebook page for you, it says:
“Television- Jersey Shore, Jesus of Nazareth, Pastor Greg, The Worship Network, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Strangers With Candy”
but you said you don’t have cable and that you “don’t have MTV”, so you obviously have never watched Jersey Shore(a show on MTV)
OR…you lie
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I’m just wondering why this show has to reflect Christian values? I’m not a Christian and don’t want to watch Christian TV. I’m not American either (what was that about ‘musky foreign thrills?’) and here in the UK Glee is screened at 9pm, which defines it as a programme for adults. My young children don’t get to watch it, but when they are in their teens I’d be happy for them to see it. It deals responsibly with moral issues and promotes support and acceptance of your peers.
Speaking of ‘acceptance’, I also think you have some issues with repressed homosexuality. Why else would you include those lingering descriptions of male actors soaping themselves up (I can remember ONE very short scene of Finn singing in the shower) and wearing tight clothes? I’m a woman in my thirties and I’ve never noticed any of that! If you could just let go of your extreme religious views and seek psychiatric help you have a chance of coming to terms with who you are. There’s nothing to be ashamed of in being gay. One of the many good things about Glee is that it strives to show this.
I really did wonder if this was a spoof at first (The Golden Girls corrupting youth? Pfft!). I feel sad for you and the other people who think this way. What closed little lives you lead in the service of a non-existent god. You can’t even enjoy a piece of entertainment for what it is (‘The songs slow up the plot’? Hilarious!).
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pERSONALLY STEPHENSON, i THINK THAT ANY BODY WHO CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WROTE IS MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF.
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Sex ed is pretty much standard issue in schools nowadays and that starts at sixth grade. Anybody over 11 is old enough to know about this stuff.
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Why must you talk down to people? “Hoping” they haven’t started dating boys yet? Have you ever thought that maybe she dates girls? Also, “rich liberal” is a very defining word. I know I’m liberal, but I’m definitely not on the rich scale. Yet, why is it that I have cable? Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself because you’re basing them on the words people say and not who they actually are. Just like how you base your opinions on a show that shows the reality of high school. Quite frankly, maybe you should visit a high school from a diverse area. Then maybe you could understand where the new generation, my generation, is coming from.
You also mentioned earlier that you’ve not seen every episode. I think that you have no entitlement to judge a show.
And I’d like to ask one question before I finish. Why is being gay wrong? Enlighten me so maybe then I can believe in a religion that is so hateful towards various good people. People that deserve more than what they are given.
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I’m sorry I didn’t read the other replies to your post so I’m sorry if I double cover something.
First of all, Mr. Schuster is no longer married, he was separated and now is divorced. When the show first started, it broke my heart that he was because he and Emma seemed so perfect for each other but I didn’t want him to be the guy who would leave his wife for another woman (and didn’t think he was that kind of guy or that Emma would want him to be). But he left his wife because she betrayed him, with foresight and intention. This does make me a little uncomfortable, I’ll admit that. But I also think that it makes someone wanting Mr. Schuster and Emma to end up together a little more acceptable.
Secondly, I very much respect your decision to stop watching the show because of your morals. I do agree that it portrays Christians poorly, as do nearly all TV shows. And I’m not happy about this. I tend to watch shows even when I’m not happy with the way they portray Christians and applaud you for having stronger conviction than I do.
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I have been a “Gleek” for about two months now, and I cannot believe you are saying such outrageous things about it. Of course parents shouldn’t let kids under 14 or 15 watch shows that involve adult content such as sex, etc., but that includes almost every show out there, including some cartoons!
Anyway, many of the things you say are offensive, wrong, and misinformed.
The show is a musical comedy. It’s not supposed to reflect real life, and anyone who thinks this show is meant to do that is totally missing the point.
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Hey there,
Let me start with this: Mr. Billings, you have a truly annoying tactic of ignoring the main points in peoples posts and either correcting their grammar or citing the bible. I’m not perfect. This isn’t a false reality. I will make some grammatical mistakes, and for that I apologize.
Secondly, i am not a fan of Glee. I think it’s a pretty bad show. I think that the musical numbers carry Glee. Most of the actors have outstanding voices, and the arrangements of the songs always bring a new dimension to my earlier opinion of the original (be it Queen or John Lennon). However, the story does feel very contrived. The acting is sub-par at best. I loved Lea Michele in Spring Awakening, but I think she falls short onscreen. The writing and script are downright abysmal, and I just don’t like the actor who plays Finn. I’m not sure why; he just kind of annoys me. Those are my personal reasons for not liking or watching this show.
However, to say that it should be taken off of the air is bordering on insanity.
24 is a show on Fox. You may have heard of it. The main character is absolutely brutal and, in the earlier seasons, tortures without remorse.
Family Guy is another Fox show. I, personally, think that Family Guy is hilarious. It satires suburban life in a way that other comparable shows like The Simpsons and South Park fail to do. However, it is way more inappropriate than the tame, music loving Glee.
Furthermore, as someone who has had the arts play a very important role in their lives, I am extremely disappointed in your tone when mentioning the arts. Theater, or theatre (I grew up in the United States and learned the ‘er’ version), demands well-formed individuals. Athletics does not. Theater is meant to put a mirror up to the world and show the world what it really is. Athletics, although I love watching sports, is meaningless entertainment. I’m okay with that. I watched the vast majority of the World Cup. I watch baseball, basketball, and hockey. I played frisbee in high school. They’re fun things, but they mean nothing.
By now you’ve probably stopped reading my post because you’ve found the grammatical flaw that you will comment on and there’s no need to read anything else. I’ve tried not to repeat what others have said, but I didn’t read the entire comment thread so I’m sorry for my repetitions.
One of my last points is this. Glee is a television program. Television is a business. The writers of Glee write a show that they think will captivate audiences. They wanted people to be waiting minutes before each new show aired on their couches with drink and food ready. They wanted people to have parties and play the Glee soundtrack, to have discussions about whether or not a character made the right choice.
The writers succeeded.
I had more to say, but I’ve forgotten it.
I found the homosexual jargon to be outrageous. I am not a homosexual. I ask anyone who reads this and is a homosexual to forgive me when I say that the idea of engaging in homosexual acts repulses me. However, I don’t care about other people doing it. I don’t like mayonnaise. From the taste to the consistency it repulses me. But, Mr. Billings I will not be upset if you put mayo on your sandwich. I don’t want it on mine, but we all eat different sandwiches, don’t we?
This will probably ruin all of the points I made earlier so please try and separate the angry rant from the hopefully cohesive points. Fuck you. You are a homophobic piece of trash who prances around spreading lies. If “god” really does exist he does a shit job of creating a world in which there are so many terrible types of people. He’s also an asshole. I will now pretend for a bit that “god” exists. I have hemophilia. If you don’t know what that is, there’s this handy website called Google. Severe hemophilia, type A with inhibitors. That wasn’t a sentence, sorry. That’s about as bad as it gets in hemophilia. My brother has the exact same thing. Three years ago he was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. Since then my two sisters have also been diagnosed with the same. My parents have to wake up every night at 3 AM to test my sisters blood sugar levels and make sure that they haven’t skyrocketed. My parents’ group of friends is falling apart due to divorces and deaths. And you want them to worry about this shit.
I just saw a link to another of your articles at the bottom of my screen and I’d like you to know that before stumbling upon this article I masturbated. Whoopdee doo. It was great. You know what’s even better? Sex. God, I love sex. I’m not married, but I have sex with my girlfriend all the time. Oh and drugs! They’re so much fun.
I’m ranting; I know.
I’d just like you to know that your bullshit Christian extremism had made me want to take a pipe wrench and bash you in the face with it. I know not all Christians are like this so I would really like for those out there not to take this the wrong way. This isn’t a Christian hate post. This is a Stephenson Billings is a fucking twat post.
Merry Chanukah
In case I wasn’t clear:
“That’s it sir
You’re leaving
The crackle of pigskin
The dust and the screaming
The yuppies networking
The panic, the vomit
The panic, the vomit
God loves his children, God loves his children, yeah!”
-Thom Yorke
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Thank you for the heartfelt comment, my friend! I do indeed keep tabs on those other shows.
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Oh I’m sure you will, seeing as how you’re a fan of Jersey Shore.
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I am truly terrified for this country. I believe there are groups of people that need to open their eyes to what is going on around them.
Stephenson Billings, wake up and smell the coffee.
1)Homosexuality is real and needs to be talked about. Instead of blasting this show and shielding your kids from the realities of the real world, why not watch this show with your children? That way you can bring up your hateful views on it.
2)Athletics are important. But what about those kids who sit on the bench? In band, music, and theatre NO ONE sits the bench. Everyone gets a chance to shine.
3)Of course Glee has excellent choreographed impromptu dance numbers. IT’s A TV SHOW! You want to teach your kids reality? Put on Cops…oh wait you want to make them believe prostitutes and drug addicts don’t exist.
4)The actress who plays Rachel is 24..clearly you don’t know what real women look like.
I will continue to pray for you and your children because your disgusting overprotective, hateful views are bound to suppress your children from becoming hard working, successful, logical adults.
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I also am appalled at how untrue this post is. The show does have homosexual characters, so what? It does have obviously rehearsed and polished musical numbers, so what?
The show is an episodic musical in the grand tradition of musicals; i.e. Sound of Music, South Pacific, Wizard of Oz, etc.
It has great messages about teamwork and overcoming clique mindsets, something that is far too prevalent in today’s high schools.
Far too often Christians are willing to say “It’s got homosexuals in it, therefore it MUST be immoral.”
This is so wrong!
The person who wrote this article has obviously seen a fourth of one episode. I can’t remember but ONE instance of seeing the locker room showers and I’ve seen each episode at least twice!
Please be better informed next time you review something.
And by the way, the Golden Girls making men gay…really?
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No offense, sir, but you’re synopsis of the show is quite often wrong and lacks any credibility whatsoever. First of all, there was only one shower scene. ONE. With one guy, singing to himself. He wasn’t lathering himself with other guys.
Second of all, I really have never noticed many shirtless guys running around.
Third, your comment on athletes getting full scholarships to universities: Are you aware of the statistics showing some of those athletes to be undeserving of full scholarships? Even if they actually got good grades in high school, the chances that they actually show up for a college class is very unlikely. The chances that they will end up raping someone, or cheating on an exam however, are extremely high.
Fourth, Victor Matlin? Try Victor Garber. He shows up in maybe two episodes tops, and he is hugging his son because they have a healthy relationship. Yes, he was in Titanic, but he’s also a very accomplished stage, tv, and movie star. He is living testament that kids like the characters on Glee CAN do what they dream of doing.
Perhaps you should try educating yourself on something before you totally misinform people on what its really about. I always thought writers and journalists were supposed to be credible, although it doesn’t seem that way in this instance…
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this post is a joke. its the most biased piece of bullshit i’ve read in a while. stop being so narrow minded and actually watch the tv show. there’s a lot worse out there.
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Thank you so much! I didn’t know Lea Michele was 30. I thought she just turned 25 this past weekend…? Etc, etc…
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Icould not agree with what you said more. Try actually WATCHING the show before you go and start critisizing(sp?) it. You have no right to judge what the writer Ryan Murphy, and all the other people on the show do. It seems to me that someone should get their priorities straightened out, and learn how not to judge a book by it’s cover. So, I(and many other people) suggest you get your facts straight. Alright? Kaaaaay thaaaaaanks(: Have a nice(just kidding, don’t) day!
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This author is a complete joke. The amount of items that are wrong with his assumptions is mind blowing.
First of all,(and I will try not to miss any but the lord knows I probably will) being gay IS NOT SOMETHING ONE CHOOSES! To say that one “choose” to be gay and needs to stop and think “oh wait i love Jesus…ill stop being gay” is insane. Besides, whats to say the guy even beliefs in Christ?
Secondly, Matthew Morris, the actor who plays Mr.Shue is not gay!!
Third, the actor who plays the Kurt Hummel IS gay and they did NOT force him to kiss, his tv boyfriend Blaine, he said they were both completely comfortable with it.
Also what the hell is your obsession with the Golden Girls? Oh wait were you one of the boys they “turned” gay, and now have to hide your homosexuality because “you love jesus?”
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oh no a show does not follow your belif system? IT MUST BE EVIL!!!!!!
“Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations?”
well seeing as it’s a not a kids show…no?
at least no more worried than what effect it might have if they watch carebears for 20 hours…
“the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.”
let’s make a compromise. the bible get the smae treatment and we have a deal.
“All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life.”
oh no never heard that before have we?
“This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”+”This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” = WTF CAN YOU AT LEAST AGREE WITH YOUSELF?
also it’s a tv show…they aren’t exactly know for their realism
“Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?”
or maybe they were aiming at the female audience? but no you’re right it’s far more likely they want to apeal to gays than to girls right?
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers”
and the bible has to much conflicting logic. whats your point? that you dislike the show = it’s evil?
“They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
want me to go on about a rant on realism in the bible? allright: jesus did about 1000 things that can’t be done by anyone.
but then again like this it’s not the real world and therefor it fucking doesn’t matter.
“Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.””
and back to my opening statement so sorry taht some people in this world don’t agree with you. want a fucking cookie? maybe there isn’t those things in it because the creators don’t belive homosexuality is an illness? no actually i’d love for there to be such a charecter…cause i’d be able to see him get smashed in the face by the people on the show who are sane.
i’m sorry but the fair play you talk about just don’t work that way. i mean it’s not like the bible presents the idea of god not exsisting either? where’s the fair play in that?
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Completely inaccurate, hateful, and full of assumptions that are extremely false.
I understand your beliefs cause you to dislike this show, but next time, make your argument more credible by staying away from exaggerations and try to get all of your facts correct.
There are so many things I would like to discuss, but let me say one thing.
Encouraging kids to “have fun in the arts” is not a bad thing. First of all, Glee does NOT tell kids to quit school, and quit their future for the arts. It is telling them to use the arts as a way to find happiness in HIGH SCHOOL. The characters on Glee are who they are because of people like you who condemn anyone who is different. High School is not one big, happy place. There are students who really struggle with being different and need to find what makes them happy. Glee is about “opening yourself up to joy” (a quote directly from the show). The kids in Glee club are HAPPY there, which makes high school a better place for them. I “had fun in the arts” when I was in high school. It taught me how to be a team player, to love myself, and created an incredible support system between my peers and me. At the same time, I graduated in the Top 10% of my class, got accepted into all 8 of the colleges I applied to, recieved academic scholarship, and am attending a top school on the east coast. Yes, “having fun in the arts” really made me a failure in my life..
Also, Glee is a TELEVISION show. Which means- IT IS GOING TO BE FAKE. You said it’s not believable, but the whole purpose of TV is to ENTERTAIN. It is also a MUSICAL show, which means they are going to break out into song. Breaking out into song is NEVER believable, but that’s okay, because it’s not supposed to be real. It is on a network specifically for tv shows like this. It’s not on a history channel, a documentary channel, or an education channel.
Hopefully you will learn to not displace your anger about parts of the show (i.e. homosexuality, teen pregnancy, etc.) on other aspects that are reasonable, because you just sound ridiculous and dramatic. You really do need to get your facts straight, because the majority of your post is made up (for example, in no part of the show do men do things in the bathroom). I got the impression that you actually believed the lies you wrote.
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When the rapture comes you Faggots`s
can dance dance and sing all you want
on your way to hell!
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Cool story, bro.
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You are SO a true Christian. Loving the hate. Jesus would totally say something like that.
(note: heavy sarcasm)
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Personally, I really don’t think using slang derogatory language helps the Christian cause much. It’s immature and lowers yourself to the level of homosexual activists. Corinthians is a much more reliable reference for speaking out on this topic:
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”–1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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Slang derogatory language? It’s called sarcasm. And furthermore, I don’t appreciate the Bible bashing.
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I was commenting specifically about “TrueChristian’s” use of the word “f*ggot”, not about you Kevin.
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First of all, pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation? Welcome to the everyday present, were you behind a rock for how long? Not even in Jesus time was everything as perfect as you dream.
Also,It’s funny that Corinthians 6:9-10 actually uses the word “Homosexual” when the first known appearance of the term homosexual in print is found in a 1869 German pamphlet “143 des Preussischen Strafgesetzbuchs und seine Aufrechterhaltung als 152 des Entwurfs eines Strafgesetzbuchs für den Norddeutschen Bund”.
As well, gay locker room orgies? Wild male sex desires? I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom? Are you for real? I mean, come on, if that’s someone’s fantasy it’s yours because non of that things have happened on the show, and I highly doubt it will ever happen. Is it may be that you’re actually a closeted religion-obsessed homosexual? Too much golden girls?
Besides, Kevin McHale (Artie, the guy in the wheelchair) do actually sings, he was part of a boyband, and I don’t get why you mock someone that is interpreting a minority that should be respected and admired for their determination and courage? A sidekick or catchphrase? Holy rusted metal batman! What about no?
About the Jewish thing, how much hate your little Christian heart can handle? the homophobia, sexism and misogyny were not enough so you added some religion intolerance?
And finally, God is about love and respect. I highly doubt that God hate gay or Jewish, or any other people. I really think and hope that God actually loves us for who we are with all or imperfections and is not a hate-trowing I’m-the-only-one-with-the-truth kind of guy that you are. God bless you my friend.
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The Bible wasn’t written in either German or English so your point is moot. 1869? Do you really think the gays didn’t exist before then? Stop posting your nonsense “factoids” you picked up in some second rate college liberal studies class.
Furthermore, I do not hate the Jews. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating one Jewish man as an icon for today’s young Christians. See:
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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Dear Xtians,
Please stop trying to ban and destroy all the things you don’t agree with.
You wouldn’t want me and all my fellow high-IQ atheists to ban and destroy YOU, would you?
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Lea Michelle, the actor who plays Rachel, is 23.
I’m not even going to touch the rest of this.
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u say male prostitues will not be allowed to enter heaven…does that mean female prostitutes will be?
btw this article is totally offensive to not only the various sections of society that are completely blasted by u but also to the true christians who believe that when jesus said “love thy neighbour” (i.e. everybody) he actually meant it.
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You are the one on your way to hell with the hate that comes from you.
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We can? HOT DIGGETY!
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Really? you stupid fuck
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Um, Glee couldn’t even SAY the word ‘abortion’, let alone present it to the audience.
And everybody else has already said what I’m thinking, so yeah.
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I don’t know exactly the episode you’re referring to, but clearly the show deals with issues such as having an unwanted child and teen pregnancy. When the blond girl student gets pregnant, the first thing she does is consult Planned Parenthood, which is an abortion clinic. It was all very obvious for anyone who has seen the show! And yes, this issue is constantly repeated and dealt with in other episodes. While they might not say “abortion” out loud, we all know it’s there.
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If you think the show needs to be immediately shut down and no longer broadcast because it’s so immoral, what are you doing watching it?
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I’m an Investigative Journalist and an adult. My career is reviewing and learning about tough subjects and then translating that into articles that shed light on uncomfortable corners of our culture for other adults to learn from. I hope that parents can learn from my work to help their children grow into decent, loving, moral people!
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Dude, what kind of a fucking moron are you? Just because you were tied to a chair and forced to watch Jimmy Swaggart as a child and it turned you into a religious prick doesn’t mean that everyone else is so empty headed.
Do you even live in the world you’re commenting on? I don’t really think so. But since I don’t have the intellect of a soda bottle collector and investigative journalist (nosy body voyeur), that mey explain why your “logic” escapes me…
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Being an investigative journalist requires that you actually do some research and not make narrow minded false accusations about something you don’t understand. If you would have watched the entire first half of the season (which you haven’t, as stated in the comments), and come to these conclusions based on actual episodes, then your story would have had some credibility. Calling yourself an investigative journalist is a disgrace to the career field.
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plannded parenthood is pretty much every teens first response when first getting pregnant. and quinn is also a conservative christian.
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You couldnt be more wrong, once again. Quinn said she would not have an abortion. She made on mistake, but she still is a Christian and said that having an abortion is out of the question. Finn(her boyfriend), was the one who suggested it, and she said no because she does not belive in abortion.
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What are you talking about? The girl (Quinn) never went to any clinic. The only time Planned Parenthood was ever mentioned was when one of the adult characters offered to take the girl and her boyfriend (or something along those lines).
That and Finn’s asking “Are you going to get a..” were the ONLY mentions on the entire show of abortion.
Maybe in your sick, twisted mind the possibility of an abortion is “always there”.
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While the cheerleader’s first response was to turn to a clinic, please note she chooses NOT to abort, but to carry the child and give it up for adoption…a testament to the fact she is part of a Christian family…I find that to ultimately be a positive message.
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To clarify, Quinn doesn’t even go to a clinic…she is asked if she was going to go and she says no…..
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“I don’t know exactly the episode you’re referring to, but clearly the show deals with issues such as having an unwanted child and teen pregnancy. When the blond girl student gets pregnant, the first thing she does is consult Planned Parenthood, which is an abortion clinic. It was all very obvious for anyone who has seen the show! And yes, this issue is constantly repeated and dealt with in other episodes. While they might not say “abortion” out loud, we all know it’s there.”
SHE NEVER went into an abortion clinic, when the main guy asked if she was going to get an abortion she CLEARLY said no. Dont base the whole arguement on a show that YOU CLEARLY have not watched, and understand nothing about. the show is realistic enough, clearly, you went into high school in the WRONG era of time. And by the way HOMOSEXUALITY isnt spreadable, like mayo on bread, people arent lead into the gay lifestyle. spekaing of gay lifestyles there is more than one type of gay life style, just like there are different types of life styles for different types of people. NOT all gay men are sexualized freaks who bang every man they see. some are just as reserved as a republican man, and others just seek a relationship.
Get your facts straight before blatantly attacking something.
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. Some Planned Parenthood facilities offer abortion services, but not all. Planned Parenthood is a health care provider that offers birth control, pre-natal care, testing for std’s, etc.on a sliding scale for women of all economic levels.
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Oh my! I cannot believe that you actually think Planned Parenthood is an abortion clinic! I have personally been there for many things, but an abortion has never been on the list. They supply birth control and lady checkups mostly. Their idea is their name PLANNED Parenthood. They know teenagers and young adults are going to do things in private and they want those people to be SMART about pregnancy.
As for the whole article, it is crap. Apparently someone who has a lot of time on their hands and a lot of hate in their heart wrote this. This person obviously is not as close to God as he should be. I may not be the most religious person, but I know my God is a loving and forgiving God. He loves all his children. (He made them, you know.)
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I agree my God is also loving and forgiving. However, part of that is repentance and working to follow Him. No where in the Bible does it state just believing in Him is enough. So the fact that she didn’t abort because she is partially a christian is ridiculous. This isn’t something that you can partially do. That being said I have never seen the show and am against all of the bashing on this blog. Part of being a Christian is lifting others up and when necessary feeling them in on the truth. It is very clear none of the words on this site are meant to lift anyone up. No wonder there are so many atheists out there….
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. As a Christian, I am appalled when I come across completely false, fear-mongering articles like this one. If you can not even take the time to check basic information (Lea Michele’s age, the various services offered by Planned Parenthood, whether or not the statistics behind your Golden Girls claim are sound…) then why should anyone take you seriously? If your goal was to caution Christians against a harmful social influence, perhaps you should have warned them about ignorant bloggers who wave their opinions about wildly as if they are fact.
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I don’t remember Quinn going to Planned Parenthood, but it was certainly the right decision for a scared, pregnant teenager. As a former employee, I know that PP offers NOT ONLY abortion services, but prenatal health care, counseling, and adoption advice.
On another note, this is the most unintentionally hilarious article I’ve read in quite a while. Keep it up Billings – and all you right-wingers – who lighten my day with your misinformed polemics.
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I do not remember Planned Parenthood being mentioned at all. Even if it were, it’s not “an abortion clinic,” though I suppose they do perform abortions there. They also give people who couldn’t otherwise afford them, resources to deal with parenthood. And the “blonde girl” won’t even allow the word “contraception” to be mentioned, she was certainly never even CONSIDERING an abortion (in fact not understanding contraception due to abstinence only education is probably her problem)
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Riiiiight. Because the correct decision on the blonde girl’s part would have been to have the baby, hastily marry the father to “make it right,” bring the child into a sham marriage between two people who can’t support it (financially, emotionally, or otherwise), and set both parents and child up for a lifetime of failure. But I guess that’s just how you red-state Evangelicals handle that sort of thing.
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UMM HELLLLO!!!!! She said from the beginning she was GIVING IT UP FOR ADOPTION! geez you are ignorant.
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I’m sorry; that’s not true. I just re-watched the episode today (it’s called “Preggers” and it’s in the beginning of season one). When Quinn tells Finn she’s pregnant, he asks her: “Are you going to get a…?” (not saying abortion) and she immediately says no. Later in the episode, Finn confides in his teacher, who asks if there’s anything he can do to help and suggests putting them in touch with Planned Parenthood. Finn says that’s not even up for discussion. Quinn never consults Planned Parenthood and never considers an abortion.
This whole article was annoying, but it’s truly your comments that make me incensed. Please, Mr. Billings, try to open your mind. I know that it can be hard, but I earnestly ask you to do so. Read some books, maybe in the fields of sociology or women’s studies. I know that to you these may seem like propaganda or some sort of falsehood, but I think that they would help you to understand people who are not like you. Opening your mind can be difficult as I have experienced in trying to break down my personal biases, including some racism, sexism, and homophobia (tough even as a lesbian woman), but having a more open mind and understanding more walks of life can be liberating and truly rewarding. I urge you to listen when others speak; if they are being rude, ask them to open their minds as well. Maybe with this attitude, we can turn some lives around. We can understand each other better as human beings. Please consider this.
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Wow.
Never in my life have I’ve been insulted that much.
Let me give you a little insight. I have been involved in the arts all my life. I am currently in COLLEGE studying Musical and Technical Theater. I currently have a 3.5 GPA and I am quite satisfyed with the way I am living and what I am planning on doing for the rest of my life.
You did not even mention the point of the show. It’s a show about the underdogs, about those who were never really appreciated for their God-Given Talents in school. Thay are the people who were put down and not considered “normal”. The show sends the message of being proud of who you are no matter what imperfections one may have.
About the show in general. Have you heard them live? I have and they all sing just as well as it is percieved. Yes, at times the lip-synching is off, but that’s part of the show.
And ABORTION?! Where in the world did that come from? I don’t even think they mentioned that in the show at all! Know the facts first!
About the sports: You are acting EXACTLY like the people on the show, that sports regn over all and the rest can just forget it. My sport is MARCHING BAND and I am SOOO proud of that! At least in my sport it requires THINKING!
It was one of the most insulting and unresarched article I have read.
I agree with the majority. Watch the show before you comment.
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Dear Tracy, I am sorry that you took my news article as a personal insult (what a strange thing to say!) but it was not directly at you. I think it’s fantastic that you’re in college! I am a huge supporter of advanced education for both sexes.
I have watched this show, almost most of the episodes in fact. That should be clear to anyone reading my article with all the facts and references. I stand by my depiction. This is an article meant for parent by the way. Adults need to have a broad, informed opinion on topics. This is not a fan site! This is a Christian website offering wisdom and perspective for adults, and in this case adults who have children who want to know what and why they’re doing things.
You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.
As for the sports aspect, I am a former high school football athlete. It taught me many things and showed me the wonderful possibilities of the world. It also keep me healthy and fit, helped me socialize with other men and taught me to respect the authority of my elders. This is a lesson definitely missing from Glee.
Well, I am glad to have brought a new perspective to you!
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First of all, I did not say anything about my gender. I said in what field I am studying which is in the arts. I simply stated what I am to show what I did and the potenial of what I can do when I “have fun with the arts”, and see where it has gotten me.
“You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.”
Everyone in the show is an underdog in a way:
Finn- he might be a popular football player, but he has had this passion for music but was too afraid to show it until he got in. Also he is not the most intellegant person.
Rachel- She is ambitious and has amazing talent, but her personality is a flaw. She never said she was ugly. She actually says in a monologue that she thinks she is attractive, but she is busy trying to reach her dream. Yes, Kurt and Quinn comment on her clothing choice, but who doesn’t comment on everyone’s clothing? She is a great person with a good heart, but she relies too much on her talent to get what she wants. Also the actress that plays her, Lea Michele, is 23, not 30.
Kurt- he is described as the “fashionable soprano”. Well, you already know what his flaw is.
Mercedes, Tina, Artie- They all have their assets and their issues, like disability, social issues, and weight.
The three cheerios and the other two football players (Santana, Brittany, Quinn, Mike, Puck, and Matt) are underdogs too to even think and even join this club, knowing it could be social suicide.
How are the adults underdogs? Let’s see:
Emma (the guidance councelor)- She is a germaphobe and has issues being close to people (especially men). She is also shy and not many of her male co-workers see her as someone who is that datable.
Will- He might be a popular teacher, but stepping up to help this failing club is a great leap of faith and taking a risk. He is against many odds to do it and we see him overcome them by making them succeed.
So by being involved in the arts are you saying that I do not learn anything about respecting elders and being on a team?
I was involved in all branches of my performing arts department while in High School, I can tell you right now the lessons I have learned.
I have learned to be part of a team, that while it is nice at times to be a spotlight, in order to succeed you need to trust those on the journey with you and that all can succeed if you work together. You also learn disipline, espeically learning music, lines, and choreography. In that also RESPECTING YOUR ELDERS. They are there to help you succeed, and in order to help you in doing so, you you have to be respectful. Respect is the BIGGEST LESSON OF ALL. As my mother says “It takes all types of people to make this world go round.” And it’s true. If you walk into the chorus room, you might see just a group of singers. Little did you know that there were star athletes, drama geeks, valedictorian of the Senior class, and just regular average joes, people that might not just fit in. You learn to respect anyone and everyone, no matter who they are, where they are from, and what they believe in.
Also as a note, do you know the training it takes to be in marching band? A WHOLE TON and let me tell you it helps one to become fit and healthy. Also dancing is an AMZING form of exersize.
You also said you have seen SOME of the episodes. So you are saying that you have not seen all of them? Maybe you should bite your tongue and do so. In order to make a full analysis on a certin topic or materical, you need to fully research the topic.
Yes, I understand that this is a guide for parents, but not all parents will agree with you. It depends on the family and the maturity of the children in question, weither they think they can handle the show. I was watching R rated movies and shows like this since I was 7, and I am a straight-edged, responsible, RESPECTFUL, virgin. I have never smoked, I have never drank, and one of my biggest things that I value in life is respect.
Again, I apologize for my negative comments, but I believe this is insulting to anyone who is an underdog and who are involved in the arts.
~Tracy
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I apologise for any typos I may have.
And I also meant “flaw” like it is typed
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First, I want to say that, Stephenson, although I disagree with many of the points you have made in this article, I appreciate that you are attempting to present other viewpoints to parents out there. I’m sure there are many people who agree with your sentiments and took your article to heart. However, there is one issue I specifically want to address here.
I agree with Tracy re: arts in education. Stephenson, in this article, you discuss how Glee makes “the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process;” that they “posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton.” You continue by adding “Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.”
While I’m not sure of the accuracy of the statements about Glee, and I do believe your statements about athletics are accurate here, I think it is sad and unfortunate that you are using this as an argument in this article. Our country has an obsession with sports, often at the expense of art, music, and drama classes and clubs in high schools. The obsession continues into adulthood when professional athletes are paid tens of millions of dollars each year to “entertain” the masses. Professional musicians, on the other hand (I’m not talking about pop musicians) often struggle through their lives. Ever heard the term “starving artist”? While I do agree that athletics are important in education, I don’t believe that they should be pursued at the expense of the arts.
I will only focus on music here because that is the area with which I am personally familiar. Young adults who pursue music in college are not provided the wonderful opportunities that many athletes are. Athletes are provided full scholarships, moneys for books and housing, and other benefits because schools want their sports teams to win. They will shell out money to acquire athletes who will make that happen. Musicians are forced to resort to student loans piling up into the hundreds of thousands to be able to attend some of the great music schools in this country.
I am a music therapist – I use music in a school system with children who have developmental delays. Every day I see the benefits of music for children. I see how music can help develop their social skills, can help limit inappropriate behaviors and allow them to be more focused and ready to learn in the classroom. I also see how helpful music can be in teaching reading-readiness, increasing attention span, and learning concepts by aiding with memorization (think about learning the ABCs without the song). Students who take part in music learning have been shown to have higher IQs, better math scores, and more ability to focus, multi-task, and work together in a team. I can’t say this emphatically enough – MUSIC IS VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN!!!!
Please do not use your public forum here to further the misconception in our society that sports are the only way for children to attain a successful future. Please consider researching the benefits of a singing club before making a statement like “Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.” If I were you, I would only stick to writing opinionated articles covering topics about which I felt I was an expert. Maybe if you want to present an article to make parents think twice about letting their children watch a certain television show, just point out some things you have noticed. Suggest parents notice these things as well. Let people form their own opinions instead of shoving yours down your readers’ throats. Please consider looking beyond your own personal experience when writing such a strongly opinionated article like this one.
Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts.
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“I am a huge supporter of advanced education for both sexes.”
Wow. How very forward-thinking of you!
I was in the arts, not sports, in high school. I am a female. I am a lesbian. I graduated with honors and have a bachelors degree. I watched programming as a child that I’m sure you would think was Satan incarnate (i.e. Ren & Stimpy). And guess what? I’m happy, successful, and a Christian.
Are you ok? I fear the shock of such a possibility may have stopped your heart.
And for the record, your comment about how there’s “no alternative to the gay lifestyle presented,” there’s ONE gay student on the show, which means there are 10+ alternatives presented. Guess what? Gay people exist. It’s not a choice. It can’t be “cured.” We’re not going away, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
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@ Alicia…im absolutely astounded that you call yourself a Christian. You CLEARLY
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephen, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephenson, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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WOW! Thanks so much for posting this, it has really made me want to watch Glee more than ever before!! I’ve never even thought about it, but you make it sound exciting and worth watching, so I’ll be telling everyone I know to watch Glee now because of this! Also, I feel that it’s time for me to propose to my wonderful girlfriend so we can be married. Like you said, marriage is beautiful and I’m ready to marry my girlfriend and have children!
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I understand sarcasm.
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Uhh…Congrats! Though I never mentioned anything about sarcasm in my post. I just realized that I should express my love for my girlfriend by taking it to the next level
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A show that emphasizes the importance of being comfortable with yourself (meaning both faults and strengths). Evil!
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Oh, and by “Victor Matlin” do you mean “Victor Garber?” If so, he’s an openly gay actor with a long and distinguished career in theatre who has played a spy, lawyers, Liberace, a “lady’s man” actor, a Puritan, an alien, and Jesus.
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The correct spelling is “theater”.
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In Britain and other places, the spelling is theatre. Not everyone lives in America.
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“Theatre” is, in fact, the correct spelling. Americans just happened to have butchered it a few centuries ago to make it different from the way the Brits spelled it. English came from England, the English spelling is therefore the correct spelling. American spellings are acceptable alternatives.
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“Theatre” is correct if you live in Great Britain or Australia. Same with “colour” instead of “color”. But it is actually incorrect to use it in the United States. It has gained currency as a common, almost slang term however but that does not make it right. In usage, “theatre” comes across as egotistical and superior with a tinge of insincerity. Many people in the acting business use it out of a desperate need to put other people down. Sadly, using the word “theatre” does not make you look or sound any smarter. It is just foolish. I suggest you educate yourself before you make your accusations. Please use “theater.”
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well you were the one to start with lashing out correcting the spelling. therefor you make the statement that his speeling is incorect.
the internet isn’t american it’s international and the english used internationaly is offcially bristish english. he’s still right.
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In the world, being judgmental and self righteous also comes across as egotistical and superior with a tinge of insincerity. Many people who are insecure use these out of a desperate need to put other people down. Sadly, acting like you are the holiest person among the billions of people on earth does not make you sound any better. It is just foolish.
By the way, in case you haven’t noticed, not everyone lives in the U.S, kthx.
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Whilst my FAVOURITE show may not be Glee, I love its use of THEATRE, and how it CENTRES on many different lifestyles. My MUM also likes the show.
I think you should stop ANALYSING things too much. This article seems to suggest that you have some closet homophobic tendencies, and if you don’t want to embrace it, should probably seek some COUNSELLING to help with your bitterness and anger over not finding a nice man to cash your CHEQUES for you.
Also, like others have said, a large percentage of us do not live in the United States. Maybe if you had done some TRAVELLING outside of your country, you would have REALISED this, you ignorant bigot.
Oh, and btw, I’m British and my FAVOURITE COLOUR is blue. I’m also now going to go and unwrap my sandwich from the ALUMINIUM foil that it’s currently in.
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I live in the U.S. and I studied Theatre for 4 years. When referring to the Performing Arts it is called Theatre and when talking about Motion Pictures it is called Theater (Movie Theater).
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I have been analyzing the thought process of conservative republican christians for a while now and find them to be complete contradictions of everything they so-called believe in. As a liberal and a college student I try to view topics from every angle so I can make the most well-rounded decisions, best informed decisions possible. I went to a christian church for four years and decided religion was not my cup of tea, but I made that decision after giving it an honest effort.
Anyway, I thought one of the most important lesson the bible teaches is “Thou shalt not judge,” so who are you to judge this tv show, gays, people’s correct spellings, etc? Please enlighten me.
Call me crazy but although I choose to never have an abortion, have a relationship with someone of the same sex, have no religious belief, and am not a conservative does that mean I am doomed for all eternity?
Hey here’s an idea…have some respect for people who are different from you or go to hell or wherever it is you believe “sinners” end up after death.
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I think he’s scared that only the GAYS that are somehow going to ruin the world call it “theatre” not “theater”. I, personally, think gay people are god’s answer to adoption! Too many children? Make more parents that can’t procreate together! Voila!
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From what that person wrote, the best you could come up with was to correct their spelling? Surely you could have done better than that? Then you have the nerve to tell a person what spelling to use? Your in the USA so you use the spelling that you were taught, I am in Australia and therefore will use the English spelling that I and obviously others, were taught.
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No. THEATRE and THEATER are both acceptable spellings…..
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For the uninitiated: Glee is a satirical comedy about high school glee clubs as a competitive sport. Although I suppose those under 30 might tune in, the target audience is clearly much older. The stereotypes are all extreme – including the gay stereotyped characters. So extreme that they would be offensive in any other context. The “good kids” are stereotypically super-good; to the point that the main male character (super-good virgin Finn) gets tricked into accepting responsibility for an immaculate-conception pregnancy that supposedly happened because they were making out (but not having sex) in a hot tub. Yes, it is that silly and over-the-top. (His ‘best friend’ is the true father)
For those of you who don’t get it: Stephenson Billings is a Phil Hendry style performance artist. The Golden Girls is a dead giveaway. The supposition that any unmarried man ever watched Golden Girls is laughable – let alone the notion that it could turn you gay. Heck, very few people under the age of 40 watched that show, let alone teenagers.
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This post is so misinformed it’s ridiculous. I’m ASHAMED that I practice the same religion as the author of this post. You’re making all Christians look like ridiculous judgmental bigots! Let me start by making a few points.
1) Glee is a television show. There are going to be adult themes such as teenage pregnancy and homosexuality because guess what? It happens in real life! You’re complaining about “adult themes and situations” and “a surprising number of mature scenarios” because guess what? It’s high school. The writers know that high school isn’t a fantasyland as you put it. Also, you’re contradicting yourself. First, you complain that there is a TV show with too many adult themes and situations. Then, you go onto say that it’s not realistic because there isn’t any “gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” Although that in itself is a contradiction (because according to you, if the show DID have gun violence, etc., it would be too unholy for broadcast, so why are you complaining?), I must also say that you are wrong! Sexting and drug dealing have both occurred on the show. You wanna know why? It’s a show about a high school. It’s REAL.
2) “The ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.” You think Glee poses SEVERE ethical and social RISKS? Glee is nowhere near “severe.” You want to see severe network broadcast? Try Harper’s Island last spring (and although that in itself was severe, it was a beautiful story, VERY worthy of broadcast).
3) “Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?” First of all: The characters of Glee are nowhere near a fantasyland of happy. They’re going through real world issues such as pregnancy. But when they sing, they’re happy. Because they’re a part of something. It makes the problems go away for the time being. But no, it’s not a fantasyland of happy. Second of all, get your facts straight! The closest thing we’ve gotten to “football players in the locker rooms dropping their shorts” has been one character singing in a shower, washing himself with soap. And FYI? All we saw was his chest. Like that’s so explicit? Seriously. There’s been worse on network television. Stop being a pansy and get used to the fact that not everyone is a far-right-wing conservative. Also, didn’t it ever occur to you that maybe the writers were trying to appeal to the heterosexual female audience as well as the homosexual male audience? Stop being so closed-minded.
3) “From pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation.” Oh my goodness. While it’s a TV show, did you ever think that maybe the writers are trying to make it look somewhat real? If every single member of the Glee club is a wholesome left-wing Christian, how realistic is that? Pre-marital sex: One time, it wasn’t even shown. The closest you’ve gotten to that is making out. Deal with it, they’re high school students. Drug use: Not on screen. Adultery: For your information, adultery was never committed. The closest to that was a man kissing another woman AFTER he left his wife. Abortion: The writers couldn’t even say the WORD abortion, let alone make it a primary theme of the show. The closest you’ve gotten to that was “Are you gonna–?” and “No, I’m keeping it.” Premature ejaculation: They’re high school jocks, what else do you expect them to talk about at the Celibacy Club? Explicit homosexual experimentation: NOT EVEN CLOSE! Get your facts straight! Perhaps the closest we’ve gotten to that is a guy coming out to his dad. Get. Your. Facts. Straight.
4) “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. They’ve clearly been coached.” That’s the whole point. It’s a television show about a Glee club, not a church. And yes, they have been coached. They even refer to the teacher in the show as a vocal coach. Get your facts together and think logically.
5)”But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.” Will you seriously stop contradicting yourself? According to you, the plot of the show is too explicit, so stop complaining that it’s being supposedly “dragged down!” Also, watching a television show does not change a person. Glee does not make someone gay or artsy or musical or athletic. Having fun in the arts is also NOT a bad thing! If you’re good at it (or even if you like what you’re doing, which in high school, is fine), go ahead. If you like it, then go ahead. Seriously. Athletics aren’t everything. What is so wrong about the arts? You are SUCH a closed-minded hypocrite and bigot.
6) “Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” First of all, how does one gay character make an entire nation gay? Second of all: ALL American citizens have rights, not just the “righteous” and marriage still is beautiful if two people love each other. Love has no standards. Love is not about race or gender or religion or any social status. And you’re going to sit there and say that Chris Colfer is the face of “our future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” Are you an idiot? Why do you assume that homosexuals are perverts? Have you heard the way some straight men talk about women? And really? TERRORIST? Once again, I ask, are you an idiot?
7) “Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”” The writers of Glee understand that homosexuality is not a disease and make Kurt comfortable with himself which is a good thing to promote. Do you want teenagers struggling with sexuality to not be comfortable with themselves, confusing them even more?
8) GLEE’S CHARACTERS ARE NOT ONE-DIMENSIONAL. While Kurt is gay, he should not be referred to as “Gay Kurt Hummel.” He is a lot more than that. Artie should not be referred to as “Artie, Wheelchair.” Quinn should not be referred to as “Slutty Cheerleader.” The writers give these characters depth and dimension.
9) Clearly you have not watched the show. Writing a review of a show you have not watched is offensive and your bigotry astounds me. I’m pretty sure God doesn’t appreciate your hate to ANYONE who is different. God would want you to be accepting, something you left-winged conservatives CLEARLY aren’t good at.
I’m so angry. And I want to write more. But honestly I’m going to stop, because just from your post I can tell you’re going to read this while saying “faggots can burn in hell.” How Christian does THAT sound?
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Sorry, made a few typos there. And another thing: Kevin McHale (the actor who plays Artie) is NOT lipsyncing. He is talented, and if you actually cared to research anything before blindly posting this article, you would know that he used to be in a boy band.
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Hi Kevin:
1) It’s ludicrous to claim that simply because Glee is a tv show, it must contain adult themes. Would you say this about Bugs Bunny or the Benji? Of course not. Your argument is contrived. Frankly, there is far too much homosexuality on tv today. Kids watching will think it’s just fun and normal to jump in the sack with some other high school jock and rub around. No so fast! This is very damaging to children.
2) I have no seen the show you mentioned, but I happen to write about many aspects of American culture, including other tv shows. I suggest you do your research on my journalism before making outrageous demands.
3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.
4) Your personal opinion!
5) As I have proven time and again, television has a dangerously outsized influence on young people today. Please get YOUR facts “straight”!
6) So you’re really a gay “marriage” proponent? That explains a lot.
Okay, that’s enough for now. I hope this helps you see some of the serious challenges of this show Kevin. Best of luck to you!
Stephenson Billings, Investigative Journalist
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If anything your responses have proven to me how ridiculous and hateful some people are. I’m going to go watch some Glee on DVD now, and appreciate the talent of everyone involved. Have fun with the whole bigotry thing.
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Kudos Kevin. What you said was spot on. Try finding a drama with a teen audience that doesn’t touch on the topics of sex, teen pregnancy, homosexuality etc.
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it’s happened…it’s finally happened. he’s lost every single of his mabels…for the 1000th time
seriously?
“4) Your personal opinion!”
really? he stated that it’s a musical and thats just an openion? allright in my openion the bible is cook book with 22 great valentines dinner recipies….
what the fuck are you smokeing? the show is a musical show and musical shows involve music numbers. that is not openion that is fact.
“3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.”
that kind of delusions can be asign of mental isues. maybe you should go see a doctor and say you see gay scences in a tv show that does not contain them. or maybe you “acidently” hit the remote and found your gay porn channel?
about the realism of the show half the time you complain it’s unrealistic the other half you complain that kids should not be presented for that kind of stuff….since it’s far too realistic. will you fucking make up your mind?
you dodge the questions and arguments by saying you’re wrong i’m right LALALALALALA!!!!! it’s pathetic. GROW UP!!!!
also great investigive journalist you keep posting incorrect facts. REPEATEDLY!
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first I researched your “Journalism on Google and .. there is no “journalism of you Billings
secon The number 3 from Jazze I think its the second choice he found Gay Porn channel
anyway stop pretending to be a Journalist an editorialist Maybe but thats all
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First of all, Bugs Bunny is full of adult themes and references. It’s very violent, characters are often stripped of their clothing, the animators hide naked/partially naked images of women in the reel and it’s all-around disturbing. In one particularly memorable scene Bugs actually dresses up like a woman and rubs Elmer’s face in his breasts, which I find humorous but for some reason that sort of thing bothers you. They are constantly referencing drugs and things like public execution and cannibalism. Just because it is animated does not mean it is appropriate.
I hated the show as a child but now that I am grown I have learned to appreciate it for its artistry and originality.
Second of all, Glee is not a kids show. Even if it was, it would only teach kids how to deal with adult situations in a responsible and level-headed manner. I had more “adult” experiences in middle school and high school than I’ve ever had after graduation.
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What do you have against gay marriage? Can you answer me without quoting the bible??
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i totally disagree that bugs bunny is an example of wholesome tv from times gone by. he was a cross dresser and attempted to seduce elmer fudd repeatedly. this is by no means tv suitable for teenagers or children.
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Please, stop calling yourself an Investigative Journalist. You are anything but. If you had ever done anything involving investigative journalism, you would have noticed that it requires a bit of research, and getting your facts straight.
Also, with your tendency to moan about homosexuality being a bad influence on society, I’m beginning to believe you are a closeted individual yourself. Dwelling and complaining about today’s culture is not going to change it, although your focus on it belies a certain…preoccupation with the subject outside of your “educational” review of a television programme.
I love Glee. It is one of my favourite shows because it is so very different from most shows on air today. It gives a satirical, albeit fairly accurate, view of what is going on in high schools as of late. As a student going into their sophmore year in September, I know my school has similar demographics. We have the theatre students, the music students, the very much academically-focused students (our school is the local high school with the Gifted program, and the French Immersion program. I personally am in the former.), the athletic students, etcetera, etcetera. We have a GSA – a Gay-Straight alliance, as well as a group called Impact, a Christian club for those who wish to join. They are not our only clubs, but neither do they stand out especially. They simply are normal within the school, and function as such.
Considering you have been out of high school for at least twenty years, perhaps longer, I don’t think you have a right to say what is and is not a good influence on today’s teenagers. Things have changed dramatically since you were in your small-town, football-celebrating school, so I would advise against judging the television shows we are watching, considering Glee is more tame than some of the other shows currently airing. I sincerely wish you would watch MTV, or something of the like, considering it would change your opinion of Glee in an instant. You would be singing the praises of the succesful show, rather than spewing incorrect facts and obnoxious warnings. And no, I do not care that you don’t have cable. Do an internet search (or is Google evil, as well?).
I am atheist, but do not bash me because of that. I accept people with religious morals, and I have morals of my own. I have not been brainwashed by “bad influences”, nor have my parents done a horrible job in raising me. I have made an intellectual, informed choice on my own as to what I would like to believe, and I had issues with inconcsistencies within religion. That being said, I have nothing against religious people – as long as they aren’t intolerant like you. I understand defending your religion, but shoving it down others’ throats and acting superior is not the way to do that (also, do not respond to that sentence, because I know what you would say anyways. Don’t bother trying to convince me of your opinion on it.). My beliefs do not make me a bad person, nor do they mean I am trying to destroy others’ lives. I care for others, and I care that our society remains a moral, accepting one without bigotry and hate such as yours.
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A handful of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies shorts are no longer aired on American television nor are they available for sale by Warner Bros. because of the racial stereotypes of black people, Jews, Native Americans, Asians such as Japanese (especially during WWII) and Chinese, and lastly Germans included in some of the cartoons. In 1999 all Speedy Gonzales cartoons were banned because of their alleged stereotyping of Mexicans, but because the level of stereotyping was minor compared to the World War II era cartoons as well as the protests of many Hispanics who said they were not offended and fondly remembered Speedy Gonzales cartoons from their youth, these shorts were made available for broadcast again in 2002.
Hmmmmmmmm… and you don’t think Bugs Bunny has adult themes? Racist for sure!
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You must not be a very good investigative journalist if you are so one-sided in your views.
Glee is one of my favourite shows for the reasons that you find it so abhorrent. It shocks the hell out of you ancient, outdated bigots who believe that YOU are more “righteous” than homosexuals or those who engage in sex at an age below 30. Have you tried sex or were you too busy with your “investigative journalism”? Why don’t you investigate why every comment you post is being rated down by hundreds of other posters? It’s because you are wrong; in so many ways. I know, everyone else here knows it, and everybody laughs at you.
I am a proponent of gay marriage as I am a gay man myself. I’m glad that I’m gay because I don’t even have to PRETEND to like people like you who are so caught up in your own Texan-values that you are unable to comprehend reality. You are so far past underappreciated on this forum that you’re lapping it for the second time.
One more thing. If you really think that the US is the CENTRE of the world and that the internet is an American technology that couldn’t possibly be used by Brits and Canadians (like me) who use British spelling, then you really are a sad excuse for a journalist. I’ll give you a lesson in etymology. That means, the origin of words in case you needed help on that one. You see, Monsieur Billings, you DON’T speak American like you seem to think. You speak ENGLISH. Ever notice that ENGLAND and ENGLISH seem quite similar? Well that’s because English is the language that spread to North America and other continents FROM England. So whatever spellings those from England use, they are accurate.
Good luck with your presidential nomination Ms. Palin…ahem…I mean, Monsieur Billings.
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Why are you so against Kurt being gay? It’s not like it’s something that cn be changed. Being Christian is accepting people for who they are no matter what, That’s the most iportant lesson I have learned in church.
Also, your description of the characters could not be more completely stereotypical. I personally know many of these people who fit this description in my school.
Glee has taught me that it’s okay to be different. I am involved in the arts in my school and I know that I will always have that close group of friends to support me.
I hope you have a nice conversation with God when he asks you why you’re hateful.
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Parents Council has this review so I agree its something parents need to be cocerned about.
Parents should be aware that this is an edgy teen show filled with adult themes. Simulated sex scenes are usually left to the adults on the show, but sexual situations between the teens are dealt in frank and explicit ways. For instance, there is a running joke that the main jock love-interest, Finn, has a problem with premature ejaculation. In fact, he is lead to believe that he impregnated his girlfriend this way when they were making out in a hot tub. She happens to be the president of the celibacy club who, unbeknownst to Finn, has slept with his best friend. There are also occasional veiled references to. One boy has recently come out of the closet and there are many homophobic jokes made at his expense. Language is relatively tame. Words like “hell,” “crap” and “damn” are occasionally used. Violence is not a problem for the program.
Glee is not recommended for viewers under age 16.
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9:23 pm
This article is one of the most hater and homophofic things i have read in my whole life, you even tagged the characters: Jewish Rachel, Gay Kurt!!
why God, the Bible and Jesus are always excuses for hating people?? stop it!! I think the love of God is bigger than prejudices, and Glee is a great show.
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6:42 am
Why do you nutso people all think I hate the Jews? You have zero evidence of this. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating them!
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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You don’t hate Jews, you just hate the Gays. Being Gay is not a choice or something that can be cured. You are born gay or you are born straight. As a gay man I find it completely idiotic that you think we can be cured or we choose to be gay. Because I would obviously choose to be a person who does not have the same rights as everyone else and is looked upon like he has a disease. This is who I am I can not control who I love or who I am attracted. I applaud Glee for showing young Gay teens it is okay to be who are and not hide. I wish I would of had that when I was growing up and maybe I would of been alot happier during my teen years. God would not want this kind of hate you are spewing spread!!!
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9:25 pm
Could we please retire calling black women ‘sassy’?
Homophobia aside, you really are just reaching for anything to bash Glee about. Kurt’s clothes? Really? They’re too colorful, eh?
The show preaches acceptance. That’s all. And if you honestly think that people are stupid enough to ‘go gay’ because of Kurt then, well, I guess you should get your rainbow suspenders ready.
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Do you really think God likes what you’re doing? Just because you call yourself a Christian doesn’t give you the right to be close-minded or ignorant, even if it is passionately so. You need to question yourself, sir. I don’t know why you’ve decided it’s good and necessary to be a straight, young, straight, white jock who can sing and dance impeccably. You’re spreading blasphemy, and as long as you decide to quote archaic bible verses and close yourself off to the modern world you will continue to mislead yourself and anyone who looks to you for guidance. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but he did mention love, you should look into it.
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Listen, you may enjoy this show and think it’s a lot of fun but when you’re a parent a very different set of circumstances come into play. YOU are responsible for your child. YOU have a responsibility to protect them, to educate them, to led them to grow up with a moral foundation so they can become the very best people they can be. As an adult, you have to make tough choices. You cannot indulge in every fun thing that comes down the pipe. You might not like it, but it’s the truth. Parents have to be on the lookout for negative influences, like drugs and sex and if that’s is what’s being sold in a tv show, you have to shield your young children from that.
Can you honestly look me in the eye and say that Glee is appropriate for kids?
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10:06 am
well maybe thats why it’s not meant for small kids what so ever. if a 8 year old is watching this and being “damaged” from it then yes the parents fucked up.
but the show is meant for a much older audience anyway. can you say teenagers? shielding them from the world won’t help your kids. it’s actually proven to be the most harmful thing you can do since they’ll be unable to br a part of it.
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Jazze, you’re right; we can’t skirt around issues or sugar-coat things. We need to teach our children about sex and all of those uncomfortable topics. Unfortunately, kids in high school do have sex. Kids in middle school do have sex. Ten years ago, 75% of girls under the age of 14 had lost their virginity. You may think it is an adult topic, but trust me, these kids already know about it. The longer we wait to include them in the conversation, the more likely they are to discover it the hard way. I can’t think of any parent who would want their child to have sex by accident for the first time because they didn’t understand what was happening in their own bodies, and they didn’t know where the “do not cross” lines were. I think most parents would rather teach their child about sex.
I’ll never forget a conversation with a coworker – we were talking about how old we were when certain life milestones occurred – first boyfriend, first kiss, “the talk”… And she looked at me and said “I never had the talk. I wish my mom had, though. If she had, I wouldn’t have had sex at 14. I had no idea what I was doing, or what was happening. She hid it from me my entire life, and then there it was! And I did it. And I regretted it. But I didn’t know that’s where it was going until it was too late. I had no idea. She shouldn’t have hid it from me.”
Censorship doesn’t work. It’s like Communism – it sounds really good on paper, but is just destructive in practice.
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My ten-year-old sister watches Glee. I do too. She understands what is and isn’t right to do and she also knows that, despite the characters being teenagers, the actors are well above the legal age of adulthood and anything shown isn’t necessarily real.
So why is it that a ten-year-old can understand these things but you can’t? We were raised in a Republican household, I’m one myself, and yet we’re marginally more accepting than you are, sir.
So go fuck yourself.
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9:34 pm
First of all, abortion has never been mentioned on the show. Quinn, from the outset, has every entention of giving birth to her daughter.
As for homosexual experimentation… Kurt has never even been kissed. There is no rampant male sex desires involved. No locker room orgies are occuring. In fact, mose of the football team proves to be thoroughly homophobic since they start spreading rumors that Finn is gay after he joins Glee…
And basically you’re doing the same thing. Saying that watching Glee will make you gay… isn’t that going a little (a lot) too far?
As for the musical numbers, how can there be too many? The music is the whole point of the show. You confuse me.
As for a “false impression” about talent and success, you apparently have something against the arts. The arts are a great way for kids to express themselves, but just like in Glee, people feel restricted by cliques and stereotypes.
And the reason that athletics will not contribute to any scholarships for the kids of Mckinley High School is because their sports teams are pretty much awful… Just watch episode 4. Since you clearly haven’t seen all (if any) of the actual episodes.
As for your comments on characterization…
Sue Sylvestor is genius. DO NOT DEFY OR SHE’LL PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE.
Kevin Mchale (the actor who plays Artie) has an absolutely amazing voice. I don’t know what you’ve been listening to… And really? A sidekick or a funny phrase? That’s all it takes for good characterization in your eyes? Well, I suppose that’s not all. You also require that all male characters reflect the supreme ideals of masculinity. Because otherwise, watching it -gasp- turns you gay!!
And really… do you really think that Kurt’s fashion is that much of a threat to your perfect ideal of masculinity? You say it like buying clothes is some kind of awful drug…
Can you really blame Will for leaving his wife? She lied to him about being pregnant. For several months. So that automatically makes him an adulterer when he leaves her? Really?
Now I’m really, really hoping that this article is some kind of horrid joke, but that unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case… I feel sorry for you and your judgmental and narrow-minded point of view.
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9:54 pm
I just have a few objective points to correct in your research, since, as any sort of journalist, I think it’s safe to assume you’d want factual information.
Lea Michele is actually 23 years old, born August 29, 1986. Her character, Rachel Berry, is actually quite believable for some people. Many beautiful, talented girls are overlooked in High Schools and even become the subject of animosity from other girls. Girls in High School are very competitive amongst themselves and engage in these kinds of cutthroat activities frequently. Rachel is one of the unfortunate victims of this. She’s beautiful, but her personality frightens people away.
What we see on TV is all lip-synced over pre-recorded performances. This is because optimal sound quality is desired and some real-life settings as well as stage sets do not provide proper acoustics for a live vocal performance. As a result, singers pre-record the given songs and lip-sync them in front of the camera. The actor who plays Artie is no exception to this rule, but that’s most definitely his own voice in the cast recordings (you can reference his casting tape, available on Glee’s official website).
I would also like to make note that many of the characters are so extreme because the plot of this show occurs in a heightened reality, which also encompasses the complex choreography and difficult singing featured in this show. Most individuals use context to determine that all aspects of the program and its characters are very obviously exaggerated.
Many films on the same level of heightened reality portray young individuals who beat realistically impossible odds to succeed in athletics. Many of these films are specifically intended for much younger audiences. I’m curious as to whether or not you would direct a consistent criticism toward these productions as well.
On the issue of content, Glee has a “TVPG” rating by The TV Parental Guidelines’ standards. That means that it may contain content unsuitable for younger individuals, including the possibility of “some suggestive dialogue (D), infrequent coarse language (L), some sexual situations (S), or moderate violence (V)” (quoted directly from the website), implying that parents (with whom the responsibility for an adolescent actually lies), should be present for the viewing of this show with their child.
Also, I understand that your article is written from a very personal and religious perspective, but I’m a little curious as to why you made the point of emphasizing Rachel’s culture and ethnicity in the passage about the characters, but not for others like Mercedes. I understand that you were choosing identifying features, but why is it that her Jewish descent was your identifier for her when there are so many other prominent features of the character. Being that your article is very negative as a whole and that other identifying features you chose were negative, is it corect to venture that you have something against her Jewish descent?
And, also, in response to a comment left earlier, “theatre” was the correct spelling in that context. The word spelled “theater” refers to a building, while the spelling “theatre” refers to the dramatic art form.
I hope this has been informative.
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10:09 pm
Thanks for arguing facts in a lose-lose situation. It’s one thing to debate the show’s message, but he didn’t even bother to check the lead’s age! Although, he did go out of the way to insult her.
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8:11 am
Dear Kite:
The age of that one actress is irregardless to my broader point that this show has a very negative influence on children. Frankly, she is made up to look like she’s 30 with her mature clothes and makeup. She does not look anything like a high school student! Her specific age is not at issue, it’s the age she appears to be on screen. And I still stand by my assertion that she looks 30. You people seem to be all obsessed about that, as if it disproves the logic of my entire article. It does not.
As for the other technical aspects of the show, I must say you know your lingo. Do you work in tv? For Glee perhaps? It wouldn’t surprise me. I suggest you come clean about your allegiance here, your bias is not actually appropriate We don’t need propaganda from Glee production insiders. i am perfectly willing to engage with you on an honest discussion of the show but I must say your ulterior motives concern me.
Moving on, the whole question of “heightened reality” and great sound quality is no excuse for a show to be so unrealistic if it is promoting a very liberal, pro-homosexual agenda. I could write a script with conservative and Christian values and have everyone be millionaires with 10 beautiful children and Jeb Bush as President. Would this not be criticized for it’s false reality? Of course it would. Would it inappropriate as a political promotion tool for a radical lifestyle choice? Most certainly. The same should be said of Glee. Y
ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!
In addition, “theatre” does not refer to “the dramatic art form” as you say. It’s simply not the correct American spelling. It’s an arty affectation, something show off way of saying you’re better or smarter than the rest of Americans. Well, you’re not. We’re all in the same boat here.
I pray this has been enlightening.
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10:15 am
“ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!”
so when i start saying the bible makes people retardet that’s what? fair critizing? no it’s fucking not.
also ofcourse you’re entiteled to your openion you can hate the show as much you like. that just doesn’t make it bad. the article is extreamly subjective and even includes you review of scenes you imagined(or dreamt?)
we are not here to protect the show. we are here to protect common sense.
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I was going to stay out of this until I saw the word “irregardless.” The word is REGARDLESS. There is no “ir” in the beginning of it. How dare you criticize other people’s CORRECT spelling of the word “theatre,” yet you fail so horribly at using the English language correctly? Have you ever taken an English course? I vaguely remember being taught how to spell “regardless” in the third grade. It may have been fourth.
I’m not even going to begin to comment on the rest of this jargon. I, very much like yourself, cannot truthfully say that I have seen enough “Glee” episodes to make a correct judgement.
Beyond the severe grammatical and typographical errors, I’m pretty sure 90% of your “article” is libelous. You are accusing innocent people of terrible things (corrupting young minds, et cetera) with absolutely no proof other than your own delusional thoughts. Surely they covered this in your journalism courses, if you’ve ever set foot in one.
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5:38 pm
1) Irregardless is improper. Do you have an editor? I suggest finding someone new.
2)Watching t.v. is not investigative journalism. Where are your interview with the cast and crew? How about the writers or network producers?
3) It’s clear from these posts than being a Christian means picking and choosing what you want to believe. Love thy neighbor, not if thy neighbor is gay, has premarital sex, or struggles with an real life issue. I’m sure Jesus would feel the same way about this show.
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7:47 am
Since you still seem to be stuck on the spelling issue:
1) “Irregardless” = not a word
2) “…criticized for it’s false reality?” = criticized for “it is” false reality
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8:33 pm
“Irregardless” is not a word. The word you were looking for is irrelevant.
“Theatre” is the correct spelling in the UK, Canada, Australia, and every other English-speaking nation other than the US. I’m Canadian, and that’s how we spell it here.
It’s rather insulting to have you correct the spelling of words that are spelled correctly and claim a deficiency in personality on the part of the writer of these replies.
I was under the impression an “investigative journalist” would be more professional and refrain from editorializing in his articles.
Also, you mention several studies that have revealed the profound influence of the Golden Girls and Glee on a growing adolescent homosexual community.
Would you be willing to post your sources? I’ve heard of no such connection or studies.
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10:04 pm
What Every Parent Should Know About the TV Show Glee .. what a joke! I thought a small action called “RESEARCH” is necessary to write an HONEST article.
*Victor Matlin.. I actually only need to touch upon this topic briefly to prove my point.. The actor’s name who plays Will Schuster’s father is Victor GARBER. He appears in one episode and plays a character who is INSPIRED by his son, a teacher, who touches the lives of his students.
*”Jewish Rachel”.. is NOT 30. Lea Michele is 23 and has had more success in her 23 years of life than the majority of the United States. Plus, she’s not playing like she’s ugly.. she’s playing a role that is true in many high schools across the country. And Ryan Murphy created a fantastic, honest female character in Rachel.
*”Artie, Wheelchair”.. yes, Jesus would be SUPER proud of you to denote a handicapped character simply by the fact that he uses a wheelchair. Kevin McHale is INSANELY talented and does in fact sing very well. He performed in a successful band, Not Like Them.
Just a few examples of the character corrections.
One of my favorite quotes of the article: “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers.” –You do realize this show is about a glee club, right? A glee club practices and performs musical numbers. Frequently.
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century.” — The creators are informing the young audience that there are other ways to get scholarships than by sports alone. And honestly, a mediocre football player is a dime a dozen and will likely not receive a scholarship. There ARE other scholarship options aside from sports. Like, what do you know it, performing arts.
Another personal favorite: “…should be removed from broadcast.” –Obviously FOX and the Hollywood Foreign Press (who award the Golden Globes, just in case you aren’t sure of what that is.. taking into consideration your lack of research) don’t think so. Thankfully.
“They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true.” –I am SO glad I am not your child. I would hate to see how you encourage people.
On a side note.. The stage used is very realistic. I went to a public high school that had an incredible stage very similar to the one seen in Glee (complete with lights), 2 gyms, 2 pools, a music wing, a 4 story field house, brand new stadium, football/soccer field, track, baseball field and individual practice fields for each sport AND marching band.
As a *practicing* Catholic, Republican and religious Glee watcher, I was very disappointed in the partiality of this article. Jesus is a loving and forgiving God. And I’m sure he forgives all the close-minded people for their prejudices.
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8:17 am
Katherine, I find the tone of your comment entirely unprofessional and crude. You and I may disagree on certain points about this show, but as I have stated before, I stand by my assertion that it is inappropriate for children of all ages. I am sorry this outrages you, but I suggest that maybe you take a deeper look at yourself and ask why you need and depend on a tv show so much. It may be that you’re seeking solace from reality. But this gets back to my larger point– a tv show shouldn’t become your reality. There is much more out there in the world than the characters on some made up tv drama. You have your whole life to live and being so attached and obsessed with each and every nuance of these fake people’s lives in truly unhealthy.
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You’re calling ME unprofessional because I corrected YOU, the author of this, on your “facts”?? The ONLY thing that you and I agree on is the fact that this show is not appropriate for children of ALL ages – hence why it’s on at 9pm and not 6. Obviously I wouldn’t sit down with a 7 year old and have them watch Glee with me. The show IS appropriate for children over 14 considering it is a show in a high school and that is the average age of freshmen in high school.
And please do not attempt to be a personal psychologist and tell me why I choose to watch Glee. Television is entertainment. I do not need OR depend on Glee. I am not attached to OR obsessed with the characters in the show. I felt the need to reply to this article because many of the “facts” you stated were FALSE. If you’re going to write an article based on your personal views, that’s fine. Knock yourself out. But do not publish your views and call them fact. There is nothing unhealthy about that.
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3:23 pm
I think “Victor Matlin” was the father’s name in the movie “Beetlejuice”. Clearly this is more evidence of demonic influences at work.
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10:46 pm
The majority of the individuals here have expressed my beliefs, but I would like to mention: this show airs at 9pm. If parents were really concerned about their children, they wouldn’t let them be up late enough to even watch the show.
Not to mention I can point out quite of few “facts” you stated tha are just wrong.
“Jewish Rachel” is not 30. She’s 23 as are the majority of the actors who play the students. They cannot cast real-life 14-18 year olds very easily because there are laws that prohibit underage individuals to work so many hours. The show it hard work, and involves a lot of hours. Everyone in the cast is over 18 for a reason.
Victor Matlin? Really??? Try Victor Garber.
There have been NO sex scenes whatsoever. Seriously, have you watched the show at all?
Also – the “coaching” and lip-synching? They’re all professionals. In fact, at least three of the actors have starred in very successful Broadway shows. Artie Lip-synching is FALSE. Everyone on the show sings. Thing are pre-recorded by the actors in a studio and yes, they lip-synch when they film that’s just they process of filming. It would happen no matter what show it is. If you don’ like their acting, that’s a personal opinion that shouldn’t affect what you think of the show’s moral values.
You say you’re an investigative journalist, but that would require thoroughly investigating you story before coming to conclusions.
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Lex, I have addressed many of your claims in my earlier statements. I really think you’re off base and a little too concerned for this fantasy show. As for actors under 18 being unable to work in tv, that is just a laughable and wrong point. Have you never watched anything else on tv? Full House, Cosby Show, The Brady Bunch? There were plenty of children acting each week on all of them. This brings me to another point–I really have to onder how old you are. Should a grown man really become so obsessed with a tv show about young and effeminate boys? I don’t think it’s appropriate.
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Those shows are much older; current legislation protection child labor wasn’t as strictly enforced, if it even existed yet. Also, they’re situation comedies, not musicals. A musical takes much more time to rehearse, because there’s so much more to the performance. It’s singing and dancing in addition to the acting. A minor couldn’t possibly put in the necessary hours of rehearsal for a weekly show without breaking the laws.
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10:47 pm
I wasn’t going to dignify this with a response, however I just wanted to let you know how hilarious this is.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee” – the girl had sex ONE time, hardly makes her a “slut” or qualifies her as a Blanche Deveraux. Besides, the admittedly promiscuous character and cougar hunter Puck (the attractive, shirtless fellow at the top) didn’t even get a mention as being a slut, is that because he is a guy? Fair is fair.
There is ONE thing I do agree with you on…
“Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often?” Yeah, the shorts are slightly disturbing.
Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
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9:28 am
Hello Marie,
From what I understand, the female Quinn has sex with various men on the show including the lead football player in a hot tub and another man with a mohawk. Because of her sex partners, she is unsure who the father is when she gets pregnant (see the episode “Preggers”). Do you really find this to be an appropriate character for a show aimed at teens? She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular, yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant. I honestly don’t think there’s anything you can admire in a character like that.
Marie, let me also take a little time to address your personal obsession with this tv show. It may seem like a great place to spend your emotional time, but what ultimately does it contribute to your life? Have you ever chosen spending time with “Glee” over spending time with your friends and family? This is a question often asked of alcoholics. I think a bit of soul searching may be in order here. I truly believe you are too immersed in a false belief system.
Best of luck my friend!
Stephenson
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10:02 am
Quinn had sex once with Puck (the man with the mohawk). She never had sex with Finn. They made out in the hot tub. Obviously you cannot get pregnant merely by making out, but that’s the funny part about Finn thinking the baby is his. Quinn is not supposed to be a role model in the early episodes of the show. She is the mean cheerleader that picks on people because they are different – much like you are doing with the characters in your article. Quinn becomes very admirable when she stands up to the true villain of the show, Sue Sylvestor, later on in the season AND flat out says in the episode “Preggers” that she is not having an abortion. She chose life. Once again, a few minutes of RESEARCH could have informed you of all of that.
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2:53 pm
“From what I understand” is your problem here. You’ve written an entire “investigative” article, and yet you are not well-informed. People are upset because you presented false information, and exaggerated the few nuggets of truth to serve your purpose. Perhaps if you were accurate in your summary of the program, people would be more accepting of your commentary.
Oh, and also if you didn’t come across like a hateful bigot.
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6:47 pm
“She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular,”
Popular cheerleaders are not appropriate role models for young girls. In my entire high school career and my two years of college, I have never met a smart cheerleader. Long story short: cheerleaders are sluts. They slather on the makeup so that they practically look like Bozo the Clown, wear skimpy clothing, and can’t find India on a map. Role models for young and teenage girls should be pretty yet modest, smart yet sociable, generous, caring, and have big aspirations for the future.
“yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant.”
Remember dude, we’re talking about cheerleaders. I’ll bet that at least 98% of cheerleaders are sexually active, and probably over 50% of them don’t use protection. Because they’re airheads.
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8:53 pm
Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population. Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere. Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success. But they’re also human beings with heart and soul! Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble. I support cheerleading as a sport 200%. It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves. I know it seems like some ancient marriage preparation ritual so that these girls can pair off with the boys on the football team, but so what? Maybe they’re the right types of girls to marry great football stars. Please don’t let your intense personal bias cloud your better judgement. You should honestly know better.
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9:01 pm
“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
But, Stevie, you seem to think that just because you’ve never come out of the closet is reason enough to slander the entire population of homosexuals…
Also, you really oughtta watch “But I’m a Cheerleader!” I think that movie would be right up your alley…
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“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a feminist. Your accusing me of simply being jealous of cheerleaders because I wanted to be one but wasn’t good enough is insulting to everything that I stand for. I never wanted to be a cheerleader because they are an insult to the female gender. Not only are they slutty, brainless girls, but they are essentially buying into the “gender role” that females should be on the sidelines cheering the males on. They spend more time applying their makeup, giving blowjobs, and practicing their valley girl accents than they do studying.
“Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere.”
Wait, cheerleaders are the embodiment of young boys?
“Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success.”
I couldn’t give a damn about “social success”. Frankly, the last thing that I’ve ever wanted is to be popular. All I need in life is my family, my cats, and a couple of friends who I share common interests with.
“But they’re also human beings with heart and soul!”
No, they’re not. They’re vain, selfish people who think that the world revolves around them. They’re the type of girls who are last to arrive at the train station, yet have to be the first ones on the train so they can get a seat. They’re the types of girls who won’t give up their seat to an elderly or disabled person. They’re the types of girls who make comments behind other girls’ backs. They’re the types of girls who are repulsed by homeless people. They’re the types of girls who hear the word “Iraq”, and say “Iraq, what’s that?” They’re the types of girls who would rather watch “The Hills” than the news. They’re the types of girls who won’t vote because they don’t care. Long story short: I hate cheerleaders because they’re vain, slutty, and apathetic.
“Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble.”
Guess what? There are lots of things in this world that are more important than sports. On a list of the most important things in this world, I’d put sports at, say, #10,000. Besides, what exactly is noble or humble about a group of scantily clad girls gyrating their hips on the sidelines of a football field?
“It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves.”
Perfect themselves in what, the art of being groomed to be a teenage stay-at-home-mom with no college education and “Valleygirl” as a second language?
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I must admit, while most cheerleaders I have met were exactly the kind of girls Claire has described, I have known two I would consider as role models. Both quit cheerleading to focus on their studies, and got scholarships based on their amazing academic performance. It miraculously improved once they gave up prancing around in those tiny skirts. Neither one, however, gave up their art classes. Those girls, I would consider role models. They understood what was important, and gave up the silly pasttime of cheerleading.
And just because you couldn’t find a girl who wasn’t a complete airhead to date you, Billings, doesn’t mean you can lie to the rest of us about what wonderful women cheerleaders are. WE won’t buy into such nonsense.
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Claire,
I went to two high schools. In both schools, the cheerleaders weren’t really higher up on the social food chain then anyone else in the school. One was in the band with me, others were involved in other sports, academics, and performing arts. They were all respectful, and the one I was in band with was intelligent and accepting. She also dated a football player who was also in band and a really nice guy. I disagree with everything said in the article by the author. But I have to say your article was nearly as ignorant and prejudiced. And the sad thing is while I suspect this article to be a satire, your response is not. I don’t know what cheerleader hurt you so badly, but just like any other social group, you cannot judge everyone by the actions of one person. Learn wisdom and tolerance and you will be a much happier person.
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8:15 am
Ok First of all, Lea Michelle (Rachel) is 22 or 23, not 30. And, you complain that there are too many musical numbers? WTH it’s a show ABOUT show choir. The musical numbers do not subtract from the plot–they drive it forward. You can’t have a show about a high school show choir with no musical numbers. You need to get your head out of your ass, admit you’re gay, and go get fucked.
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11:07 pm
Please, stop spreading your lies and prejudices and DO YOUR RESEARCH before deciding to write an article like this.
“The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
Most teachers are actually very much like Will in schools today. Why? Because they actually CARE ABOUT THE STUDENTS. They want to see them succeed, they encourage them and are generally nice people. Secondly, wouldn’t you just be writing a worse article if Glee included gun violence? It seems your view of what a high school is like comes only from the media, who lead you to believe every teenager is a psychopath who will glass you or turn a knife on you. NOT true.
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance.”
Glee is a MUSICAL. Hence, the many music performances. The boys and girls of Glee can sing, yes. Perhaps that’s why they joined the choir?
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton.”
They never, ever said that on the show. I believe in this you are referring to a talk Will gave Finn, in which he stated that just one extra-curricular activity does not get you into college, but two might do just that.
“Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires.”
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice. It’s something you are born with and you can change your sexual orientation just as much as you can your skin colour. You are prejudiced against the show because it has a gay character. Teaching kids to shun certain people and look down on them…what is that teaching them about life in general? Hate and disrespect that which you don’t understand?
“If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be?”
One in which everybody is accepted for who they are?
“Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.”
Lea Michele is not 30. She’s in her early twenties. Also, Ryan Murphy is not gay. It’s statements like these that show how unprofessional and unbelievable this article truly is.
“Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.”
Kevin McHale was in a boy band before Glee. You can Google them if you like. You don’t believe he sings…is that because he’s a high school ‘nerd’ in a wheelchair? THAT is hypocritical.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.”
Really, how many episodes of this show did you actually watch? Quinn is a “slutty cheerleader” for the first five episodes, but then she sees how the members of Glee really care for her and she becomes an extremely nice person.
“Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.”
If you’re going to complain about the outfits, you really should have picked on Gossip Girl instead, which uses the show to showcase expensive clothing. The writers of the show cannot ‘force’ him to do anything the actor does not wish to do, though since the actor is gay himself I’m sure he wouldn’t have absurd prejudices like yours.
“Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.”
Excuse me? Neither Will, nor Matthew Morrison, are gay. What the HECK makes you think that?! He has a wife and a crush on the school’s guidance councillor!
I hope next time you accuse a show of corrupting a generation you’ll at least take the liberty to RESEARCH to cover up your clear lack of knowledge about what you’re writing about. Actually, I think the world would be a better place if you never wrote anything else like this. Period.
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11:17 pm
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this article is pure trash. great job, have you even thought of writing tabloids? you’d be fantastic.
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11:38 pm
I’m 14 and my sis is 11 and we absolutely LOVE the show, so do my parents and even my very-christian Aunty. Personally I think your wrong on so many levels it’s not funny and it’s people like YOU who think their like another messiah or something.
Here in Australia Glee is rated PG and I’m pretty sure its around there in America, They have never sworn once, never did they mention Abortion and never have they given the message that “Cuz Kurt is Gay we want to make everyone gay”
The reason they made Kurt gay was because Glee is about being accepted for who they are and when Kurt came out to his dad he was accepted like every parent should accept their kid for who they are. I could see you throwing your kid out for being gay cuz u think its “evil” or wateva. Disowning a child for something that they can’t control or that is part of them is ridiculous.
Lea is not 30 she is 23, and what did you put “Jewish Rachel” because you hate Jews? (your also probably one of those people that think the holocaust was a good thing -.- )
“Artie, Wheelchair” does not lip-sync, his voice is genuine and he is a very talented person.
“Slutty Quinn” i have no idea where your reference is from but Quinn is defiantly not a slut and if i were you i would go look up the definition of slut again.
And calling Kurt a terrorist is just stupid. I have no idea where you got the impression of that.
Again, the concept of Glee is for kids to be themselves and accept eachother for who they are, not what they looking like, their sexuality, if they like music ect. As the bible says “Love thy neighbor”
And i think the concept of you in the world is to spread lies and make up crap about perfectly good shows. Your a sad excuse for a human being and a very sad excuse for a Christian. Get a Life.
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8:23 am
You seem awfully young to be watching an adult show at 9pm. This does concern me. It also concerns me that you’re reading a Christian website with information aimed at parents. Your other points– well, clearly you’re just repeating what other angry commenters have said.
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8:47 pm
Wow, that wasn’t even aimed at me and I feel patronized.
Yeah, kid. Be quiet; the grown-ups are talking.
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9:30 pm
So you also admit that this is an adult show. You admit that this show is not aimed toward children.
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11:44 pm
Solution: If Glee offends you, don’t watch it. If you decide not to watch it, don’t judge it and keep your negative thoughts to yourself.
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11:57 pm
Rachel is Jewish, is this not correct? I don’t understand why you people are all up in arms about that. Yes, she is Jewish! They say that on the show and make her out to live the life of a Jewish-American girl. “Jewish” is not an epithet. It is not a “bad” word. It’s a ethnic descriptor. Honestly, you people are trying to create controversy where none exists.
Furthermore, most of the people commenting on this article are NOT PARENTS. You’re mostly young, some still children. I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things. Again, this article is really meant for your PARENTS so they can make important decisions concerning your lives. Parenting is not easy and contains many, many responsibilities. If you disagree so strongly, you might want to send a link to this article to your parents so you as a family can have an honest discussion of television content and your watching habits. It really will help you guys figure things out.
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12:01 am
“About The Author: Stephenson Billings is an Investigative Journalist, Motivational Children’s Party Entertainer and Antique Soda Bottle Collector all in one special, blessed package! Fanmail me Stephenson@Christwire.org !”
Billings, it scares me to think anyone allows you near their children, or that you have any of your own.
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4:22 pm
“I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things.”
Now THAT is offensive. You, sir, are stereotypical and probably the only real interaction you have with the world is via the Internet and watching the news. Sure, I’m a child. Doesn’t mean I like beer or would ever drink if the opportunity was presented.
And another thing: The only response you have to everybody’s comments are that they are “obsessed” with Glee by correcting your false statements. Clearly, you’re pretty “obsessed” too, if you have nothing better to do than write an online article bashing a wonderful TV show, one that won a Golden Globe.
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4:24 pm
Oh and I’ll have you know? My mom works at a church as a Children’s Ministry Assistant Director and is perfectly fine with me watching Glee. She even sometimes watches it with me!
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5:18 pm
Kids like chocolate and beer…? I do admit that chocolate is absolutely delicious, but not all teenagers are rebels who go out and get drunk every night. I can truthfully say that I have never had so much as a sip of alcohol before. And yet I watch Glee. It hasn’t corrupted me and turned me into a sex driven maniac or alcoholic or drug user. Though you don’t seem to be able to comprehend it, some people are actually responsible.
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1:44 pm
I am a parent, sir. I have three beautiful children, two of which are already in college.
I showed this article to many of my friends, all parents. We had a good laugh. Many of them commented on this. Most of them, in fact. We’ve been referencing it for a couple of days now. It’s become an inside joke.
Our children are brilliant, well-educated professionals. We are all devout Christians. Sometimes I watch Glee with my daughter who is still in high school. We have good conversations and we love the music.
My sons are into sports and are also amazing artists. I have a nephew who is gay.
I love this show because it teaches children responsibility and is very realistic at times.
Also, it’s very aesthetic and I love it.
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8:14 am
Mr Billings
Forgive my ignorance (y’know like that tolerant god you listen to), but surely being jewish isn’t an “ethnic descriptor”. I mean, where is “Jewland”, “Jewtopia”, etc. I pray to your imaginary friend, sorry, your god, that I never get sent to “Christianland” or “Christiania”. I think it would be worse than France!I would have thought it more a “religious descriptor”. I only hope that you, as a journalist that investigates this kind of stuff before you write it would know.
And as for all the trans-Atlantic spelling bee nonsense, feel free to, in future, not post your ill-researched (I’m told there is no greater insult for a real journalist) on the “world wide” web.
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4:11 pm
As a conservatory student of musical theater, I will tell you that you are incorrect in your statements about theatre, music and dance – the quality of these – on the show. (I’m not saying I like what is on the show…because it’s cheap and corny, but that isn’t my point of writing this.) Not only this, but you make accusations about what it takes to be successful in the field/in arts and these false accusations contradict what you say a few sentences before!
This is poorly written and based on nothing substantial other than your desire to gripe about something to make you feel better about yourself. Wake up. GROW up. And Open your little eyes and brain. From reading this article, I’ll go ahead and say that your perception of the world is seriously twisted. Sorry. Read my blog for just a TASTE of logic-based truth…which is for what I am constantly searching: the TRUTH.
If you’d like details of how you may edit the aspects of this article based on music, dance, theatre, and the arts, I’d be more than willing to help – but judging from the tone of what you’ve written, I doubt you’d be willing to listen.
You are foul for trying to impose your beliefs (backed by religion and morals) onto others. Of course, I know that I didn’t have to come to this site and didn’t have to read and didn’t have to comment… Still – try approaching your writings and thinking from scientific means or life-based logic…think about what you say before you write it and IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU AFTER YOU’VE THOUGHT UP EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE argument, then post. Otherwise, you just create a blog full of material that most deem to be silly, laughable, and unsubstantial.
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12:08 am
I agree that this show probably isn’t for children, it’s a little too adult for them. That’s probably why it’s on at 9pm. And if that was the whole point of this article, I’d be fine with you saying that the show may not be appropriate to young children.
But you didn’t. I’m not even 100% sure that you’ve watched the show (I know that you claim you have, but I’m thinking you weren’t paying attention because half of this stuff didn’t happen). I don’t feel like they’re showing naked locker room scenes all that often, because if they had, believe me, I would have noticed. Additionally, I know there’s ever been any explicit sex or “gay things with guys in the bathroom”. Your assumptions about Will being gay are way off base (or so it would appear to me) and even if they weren’t, being a homosexual does not mean that one shouldn’t allowed around students. If we’re truly talking about “intimate, private contact with young people” then no teachers (heterosexual or homosexual) should be afforded that (I believe in most cases it would be illegal)
As for your take on the Arts/Sports rivalry. I don’t think anyone is saying that you can’t get a football scholarship. Obviously, that is one way to go. But their team sucks, so what they were saying was that Finn had a better chance at getting in with Glee, since things were looking more hopeful there. The arts teach teamwork just as much as sports do, believe me. If someone forgets their lines in the school play, it’s just as much a problem as if someone can’t remember a play on the football field. Having fun in the arts is fine if that’s what you want to do. Having fun in sports is fine if that’s what you want to do. I haven’t seen anything suggesting that kids should drop all college preparations to put on a show with their friends. And if they have, perhaps you should talk to your children about the importance of higher education, if you believe in that. After all, you are the parent, not the TV show. Kids can get input from TV shows, but ultimately, parents are the ones pointing the way.
Also, I think it’s fantastic how you’ve given your personal input about the actors’ careers, writing on the show, etc. You are clearly such a brilliant creative mind that we should all listen to you. If you are going to write an investigative journalism piece, maybe you should just stick with the facts instead of embellishing the story with your (often unfounded) opinions.
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12:34 am
Oh, and being gay is not a lifestyle choice. Why would anyone choose to be alienated, physically and emotionally attacked and denied civil rights? Most people would not. And I think that the reason that there are “more” homosexuals now is because people aren’t so afraid anymore to be who they truly are. Fifty years ago many currently “out” gay males probably would have been miserable and married with children, not because it’s who they are but because it was what they had to be. If a TV show can turn you gay, you probably already were to begin with. Curing people of gay urges isn’t possible. You can repress them, but you can’t cure them. And guess what?! Because the bible shouldn’t be taken literally, this does not necessarily mean that the gays are going to hell. If they kill people, sure they are, but not because they’re gay. According the the bible my dad could sell me into slavery. Thank goodness he’s not so literal.
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8:29 am
Thank you for agreeing with me that this show is not appropriate for children. As for homosexuality, I am informed by thousand of years of Christian learning and wisdom. You may recall from scripture:
“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” –Leviticus 18:22
“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” –Romans 1:26-27
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8:29 am
I’ve always enjoyed that chapter of Leviticus, but, Mr Billings, I think everyone stops a line short when preaching against unnatural sex acts.
Leviticus 18:23 reads: Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
So just to clear this up, God thinks same sex sex is abominal, but bestiality is just confusing.
I’ll bet he throws a great party!
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12:17 am
Billings – I AM a parent. I am aware of today’s teenagers. I have a toddler, but also have a teenage sister. The fact that these kids that are correcting you, the adult author of this pathetic article, is scarier than the things you think Glee is corrupting today’s youth with. Yes, Glee has some mature themes, but I haven’t known one teenager that hasn’t grown into an adult. I’d rather have my sister watch this show than trash like Jersey Shore and other reality shows of the sort.
Get a grip, Billings, and stop attempting to hold yourself at a higher level than the kids that have commented on your ridiculous article. As an adult and parent, I’d rather spend my time with these kids who have a more open and accepting point of view than you, another adult, that thinks that anything that is different is wrong. Did your parents not hug you enough as a child or something? Grow up.
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12:23 am
Also.. the whole point of people getting pissed at the “Jewish Rachel” identification is that there are other ways to describe people than by their religion. You could have said “Female Lead Rachel”.
By the way, Quinn is not a slutty cheerleader. She is the president of the celibacy club. Granted, she got pregnant by having sex her first time ever.. but I never knew that having sex once made you a slut. Thanks for correcting me, Billings.
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12:36 am
OMG! A show doesn’t follow the Bible but actual life situations while being a delightful musical. WELCOME TO REALITY these things are all out in the world. Teen pregnancy, Gay teenagers, Peer pressure, The high school “line” of things, SEX! . We are all going to face these things sooner or later in our life’s weather it be TV, Movies, Books, or real life situations.
I was in 3 Choirs my entire 4 years in High School and we switched from show tunes and modern music! and it was the one of the best things i could have done to take up music. I also did sports most of the time also til a injury took me out of the game.
Believe me when I say there are shows out there far worse then Glee that Kids could be watching A.K.A any reality show on MTV or VH1! So … You don’t like the show, OK TURN OFF YOUR TV AND LET THE REST OF US ENJOY!
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8:44 am
I don’t know why you people are getting all hysterical and spamming this website with your inane comments. This article is intended for informed Christian parents looking for guidance in raising their children. If the content is too difficult for you to stomach, I suggest you move on and leave the reporting to the journalists.
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4:31 pm
In some cases, like this one, if we leave the “reporting to the journalists,” then we will be misinformed with false information.
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1:04 am
following that logic you people should shut up and move on about obama being president. leave leading the country to the president, right?
he’s president = he’s qualified and no matter what mistakes he make or what flaws he may have he can’t be wrong…or maybe that logic only aplly to you?
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1:32 am
EXCUSE ME WHILE I DANCE AROUND IN MY SPARKLY PINK LOLLERSKATES.
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1:47 am
for all of the times you, stephenson billings, have replied to some of the above comments I’m really curious as to why you’ve yet to address any of the SEVERAL factual errors you made in the article that SEVERAL posters have pointed out.
as an “investigative journalist” your job seems to be to obtain FACTUAL information before writing and publishing an article. since you failed to do that the least you can do now is CORRECT your article, and thank so many of the posters above for doing your job for you and better than you.
of course, I don’t expect a response to this, a comment that points out all of YOUR flaws– you know? sort of like your article does with a TV SHOW.
oh and before you try to completely skirt the issue (AGAIN), I AM a parent of a child, so don’t pull the “you’re not a parent so you are not the intended audience of this (largely untrue) information” with me, bub.
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8:33 am
Please speak (or type) in an appropriate manner. Your tone is immature and vengeful and I do not appreciate it.
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1:42 pm
once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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2:23 am
As an investigative journalist, I think you should have researched the basic facts you present in this post before publishing it. It took me all of 60 seconds to go to IMDb and look up the ages of the actresses that play the female students. All of them are in their early twenties (most are 23), NOT late twenties or early thirties. If you go to the same website, you’ll find that the actor that plays Artie (the wheelchair-bound student) is in some sort of boy band. This would seem to indicate that he can, indeed, sing.
It might also be beneficial to research the numbers of college students, who earn scholarships through arts and sports before making blanket statements about which is more likely. I played basketball (varsity as a freshman), soccer (varsity as a freshman), volleyball and was on the swim team in high school. My sister participated in theatre and dance. Both of us went to academically-competitive schools (ranked higher than Ohio State and lower than Princeton). I received only academic scholarships, while my sister received both arts and academic scholarships. I haven’t done the statistical research, but I would expect that the likelihood of getting either an athletic or an arts scholarship greatly depends on the college and the talent of the student.
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2:25 am
I’m both disheartened and bewildered by this article, as well as many of the responses. It certainly begs the question; “Exactly what planet did some of you grow up on?”
Which one did you live on that simply allowed you to drift through life and avoid any difficulties as an adolescent? I’m unsure that many of you even recall what it was like to be that age, let alone the seriously tough choices that came with it — the defining choices that are not only unavoidable but forge us into stronger people.
This argument might have solid ground if not for one intrinsic fact. This is a show about HIGH SCHOOL. Have you ever been? Did you, by chance, happen to notice any recurring themes? Sex. Drugs. Violence. They’re everywhere and they aren’t going away. By covering your teenager’s eyes and ears, you’re not doing them justice. You’re not equipping them with the proper tools to make an informed decision about their own lives, and worse yet, you’re spelling out that you don’t trust them to come to their own conclusions and make educated choices.
This show is all about the tough choices.
Yes, it’s fun and musical and bright and happy on the outside. But that’s what society is. You have to rip off the pretentious, shiny paper to get to what is really underneath; imperfections, fears, questions, heavy emotions, self doubt, confusion, sexuality, pressure. That is who we are : we’re HUMAN. And that is part of what the show is attempting to magnify. Your teenagers are dealing with these issues every day, whether they tell you or not. They are confronted with drugs, sexuality (both straight and homosexual), alcohol, violence (as a result of confusion/fear/anger) and every day they have to decide what path is right for them. They’re surrounded on all sides and being pressured by everyone who all want them to take different directions. Can you imagine being that torn? You should try to because I remember it like it was just yesterday. But thankfully I had parents who wanted me to know and understand and see as much about those choices as I could so that when the ball dropped in my court, I could simply pick it up with ease and consideration, then serve it into whichever direction I knew was right for me.
By blaming a show for themes which already exist right now in your homes and schools is irresponsible. If you’re unhappy with society (or one of the various facets) — own it. Step up and fight to change it. Don’t post a web article slandering a television show that is meant to say, loud and clear, to the kids of today, “I understand.” It’s taking the scary topics that they can’t talk about and it’s making them less scary. Whether you know it or not, this show is helping them. And no matter if it goes on or not (which it is highly liable to) you have not erased the issues it has spotlighted. Keep that in mind while you’re going about blaming it for problems that have existed well before it ever came out.
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8:39 am
Dear Destiny,
I indeed had a positive childhood experience but I’m not sure why that matters here. I was a successful high school football athlete and to this day, it still remains an important aspect of my life. I often reflect back on my days on the field and the lessons I learned there with joy. It taught me the importance of teamwork and competition, of being properly socialized within your peer group and of meeting new people. I do use that background when approaching a subject like this show Glee, but it’s not the only thing I use. Of course my Christian faith and my work counseling teens in my church outreach also has taught me about the issues kids face today. And my journalism, of course. So you can see I have a great deal of resources to draw on when I speak about the health and mental state of young people today.
Stephenson
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10:24 am
too bad they are aparently all as usefull as my ass huh?
hello do you see us the enromous amaount of people telling you that you are an idiot? yes thats right we are the people with the problems you talk about. but for some strange reason WE HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT!!!!
once again i’ll refer to the fact that whille you may be doing this to help all you do is hurt. you ideals are fine and all but the rest of the world does not share them and forcing your ideals on others is the most harmful thing you can do…well just consider how you fell when people start explaing there’s no god.
the feeling you get when a non-relegious person asuluts your faith is the EXACT same thing you do to us every time you post an article.
do unto other what you want done unto you is perfect quote for this situation as whille you’d love for everyone to agree with you thats not the point here. but the fact that you post your own openion as fact. and then cry like a baby when we do the same.
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10:53 am
Jazzy, have you ever watched this show? I suspect they don’t play it in Europe. You really should see it before you try to defend its questionable content. I must also say that your comments over time are becoming more and more deranged and irrational. I don’t know what wild world you live in, but please try to calm down once in a while. You’re throwing strong language and anarchist views out there and it’s not productive. I realize many children today experiment with drugs out of peer pressure, but ultimately this is a serious dead end street. You harm yourself and those around you. I have counseled several teens with this addiction problem and they struggle with rebelling against every authority figure they come across. They find comfort in death metal and grunge concerts and black nail polish, that whole anarchist lifestyle thing. Well, take a step back and you’ll realize these goth kids just look silly. On top of that, they attack every adult around them who symbolizes maturity and intelligence and morality and success. They think it’s cool and fun and waste their days hanging out in the parking lot at the mall. But the truth is that the drugs aren’t making them cool, they’re ruining their lives. I hope and pray you stay away from drugs.
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11:54 am
Glee is shown in Europe. It is actually shown all around the world (another fact you did not find in your “research”).
I actually do know those who are in the Goth lifestyle, and now YOU are commenting on what they wear and what they are doing?
Have you ever heard about TREATING OTHERS THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED?
Also, you are assuming that most teens today are partying hard and doing drugs and experimenting.
Yes, it is different times and they have changed since you were high school, but don’t assume that all teens are doing things like that.
You keep saying you did football in high school and you had a positive high school experience. So are you saying that you never felt like these people on the show? That you do not know what it is like to be an underdog? Let me tell you, unless you have felt like one in the past, you would not understand the show. Now I am just asking why you decided to even watch it in the first place? If you did not have a connection to it, why and how did you decide to watch and “research” on this? Did someone tell you about the show and only watched the episodes that caused controversy (since you did say that you did not watch all, only some)?
Do you understand what kind of effect this show can do to people? It gives people hope and faith in themselves to be proud of who they are and that it’s ok to be different. It gives them a getaway for an hour from maybe a reality they wished that they were not in. I know for me it is.
I apologize if I have offended you or how you live your life. But as I said before, you needed to do more extensive research before posting. Look at the outcry you have caused. Think about the opposition to your opinion and aknowlege them, knowing that they do not feel the same, but you are open to other people’s opinion.
I do commend my fello Gleeks for speaking their mind, but please try to be respectful as well as stating your opinion and pleading the case.
~Tracy
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11:56 am
let’s make 1 thing perfectly clear. i do not do drugs. nor have i ever had the intention nor will i ever have it. why? because i’m simply too smart. i know it ruins lives.
but thats not the argument.
strong language? ofcourse it’s my way of putting a bit of punch after my words. it’s an insult. and it’s part of my normal language though i’m rarely this harsh.
finally no i never saw the show. most likely i’d hate it if i did. thats why i don’t defend anything about whats in the show. i simply defends peoples right to watch what they want. the same right you have to read your bible defend these kids right to watch this show.
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2:01 pm
Jazzy, honestly you lack self control. I find it disconcerting. I hope and pray some day you grow up and find a woman to make happy. And please calm down you nutty rants. I can’t hardly tell what sort of insanity you mean half the time. It’s like talking to a sleepy crack addict through a bus window.
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3:20 pm
So how many sleepy crack addicts have you spoken to through bus windows? Just curious, Mr. Billings.
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9:19 pm
why do i lack selfcontrol? because i say my openion? in that case you lack it aswell.
and you’re the one who insulted me simply because you can’t win and arguement with me by actually discusing and therefor have to sink to personal insults. i’ll admit i do the same but at least i acopany my insults with logical arguments.
i will once again ask why is it helping when you do it but unaceptable behaviour when we do it?(talking about telling people how to live their lives)
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This is crazy. I am a christian and I strongly believe that a small number of people who say they are christians push homosexuals away. Sometimes violently.I see nothing bad about being homosexual. I saw a part that said orgies and bathroom sex? That’s a stereotype. Many of my christian friends have no problem with any kind of sexuality. I also read that the show gives no choice to stop being gay? You can’t stop being who you are. There are so many questions about Christianity. A quote of what the gay character in glee, Kurt, said before was that he didn’t see God as loving and forgiving because the church doesn’t take too kindly to his sexuality. Also why did God make him gay just to be bullied and scorned? This is a time where prayer comes handy and where God should intervene. However God makes no mistakes.
Another thing, I’m 16 and I love this show. I don’t find much of the show offensive since I can see it happening. Teens drink, smoke, drink, and have sex. Not everyone does though. I am not influenced to do anything they show on glee. Glee seems so controversial but practically every show on tv can be innappropriate. Would parents just let their teens watch sesame street and none else? What can parents hide from us that we can’t find ourselves? If you want advice, just talk to your kids about the dangers and consequences. I know for a fact that the more restrictive and closed off a parent is the more likely their kids will go wild. From experience I have seen it happen all the time.
Last thing. I know people who look up to the characters. I know bullys. After watching glee and although not all some toned themselves down because after seeing themselves in the characters it looked horrible. I was not raised in a neglective family. I was raised in reality.
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2:25 am
LOL this article is hilarious!!!
Although it worries me that there probably are (insane) people who think like this.
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Where to begin. No, you know what, I won’t even begin anywhere. I’d just like to say that the majority of statements in this article are false, and what’s even worse: they are presented as facts.
What’s the most offensive thing is the comments regarding the gay character Kurt Hummel. The article continually adresses being gay as the wrong kind of behaviour. To equate being gay to terrorism, be it intellectual or whatever term you use, is just WRONG! And puts the entire article in perspective. Apparently you can’t do much more then judge people, using your religion as an excuse! Which is extremely shamefull.
Shame on you, and hooray for Glee, tackling topics that need to be discussed, not ignored, like they have been for the past 50 years.
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8:47 am
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” –1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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7:14 pm
“You gotta put your behind in your past.” – Pumbaa, “The Lion King”
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7:19 pm
“What you are is a question only you can answer.” – Lois McMaster Bold
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11:38 am
“If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.” -Exodus, 21:2
Can Artie, wheelchair actually buy Jewish Rachel? Is there a limit to the number of Hebrew slaves one may purchase? I’d like to do some remodeling, so the more, the merrier.
But seriously, if you are concerned about children being exposed to horrific acts of sex and violence and fantasy, you should really be pushing for a ban of the Bible. Read it?
“When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.” -Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Violent much?
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“Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father.” -Genesis 19:30-32
Incest that was the result of what amounts to date rape of the elderly! This after Lot had offered his daughters up for gang-rape, which was followed by the transformation of Lot’s wife into a *pillar of salt* just because she looked back at a city she was fleeing. What good, clean, wholesome fun!
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“… I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the Hekhal (sanctuary). Above Him stood the Seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.” -Isaiah 6:1-3
Now THAT sounds like fantasy!
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9:38 am
This is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read,XD!
Can you make a review of True Blood or Supernatural?That’d be priceless,LOL!
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oh yeah that’d be glorious especially if he actually goes all the way to the new season of supernatural. i’d love to hear this idiots openion ont hat show.
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10:21 am
Even better: Twilight xD
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You FOOL! Don’t bring up Twilight! The lulz will rip apart space-time and create worm holes!
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10:59 am
I would really like a review of True Blood on this site!!!!
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10:26 am
Looks like somebody is still bitter they didn’t get the lead in Oliver!
Seriously, you should submit this to The Onion because I got a good laugh.
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10:32 am
Also, I find your overwhelming use of bold and underlining to be gratuitous and in bad taste. But I suppose that matches the article.
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10:47 am
They’re called hyperlinks. They take you to other website articles that substaniate my research.
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I am aware of what a hyperlink is. The items in red are hyperlinks, underlined/bold or not. Most of your article is convoluted with underlined or bold phrases that are not hyperlinks. As a reader this is irritating and misleading.
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Agreed. You would never find a real journalist who felt the need to emphasize every other sentence in his article.
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7:24 pm
In this article written by my sister (who is currently in her senior year at American University for print journalism), you’ll notice that there are no words underlined or in bold.
http://www.ivorytowerz.com/2007/01/invisible-government.html
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7:55 pm
what kind of last name is Snedeker anyway? always did have you pegged as a minority…
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11:19 am
Hey Steve,
Instead of doing such great works on how tv characters are making kids gay…why dont you just go find another kids party to work.
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6:49 am
Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!
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4:24 pm
“Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!”
It’s not appropriate for an unmarried, childless, 60-something year old man with a resemblance to John Wayne Gacey to say something like that. You keep denying that you’re a pedophile, but you’re only digging yourself into a hole by saying those sorts of things about children. Then you go and accuse other people of having unnatural attractions towards kids. Parents should have warning bells going off in their heads upon reading something like that.
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11:42 am
Where is your mind at anyway? Please get your facts straight and stop trying to make yourself into some kind of Savior! Lea Michelle (Rachael) is 23 years old not 30! Stop being a Pompas Ass!
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1:26 pm
Your inaccurate and twisted critique would be funny if it wasn’t so terrifying.
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1:27 pm
Everyone keeps posting about facts. Here’s some. I have never watched Glee. I am adult, with a college degree. I studied theatre for a little while, but my degree is in Business Management. (And yes, it’s spelled “-re” at the end. Blame the University.) I run a youth drama ministry at my church, for middle school students. Some of them watch, and adore, this show.
I can understand one’s concern over the issues you’ve presented. The fact is, tat whether or not this accurately depicts high school is immaterial. The show is fiction, which is relatively obvious to those who watch it. In fantasy, high school can be anything anyone wants it to be. Therein lies the draw. Disney’s High School Musical, a multi-million dollar franchise, isn’t accurate either. But it’s what people want to see. Glee represents what Dirty Dancing represented. What all fiction represents. What we want. What we think we want, even if, were we to ever actually get it, wouldn’t it anymore.
Gays, Lesbians, Homosexuals… it’s not going away. Taking it off of television, making it taboo… that’s not going to make it stop. You don’t have to agree with it, but you should respect the person. Love the person, hate the sin. Everybody sins. Jesus loves us anyway. God waits to judge people until they’re dead. We shouldn’t judge other people at all. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Love everyone. The gays, the lesbians, the women having their abortions. Pray for them, by all means. It’s going to go to a higher court, anyway. And there it will be judged by the one whose opinion matters.
And in the meantime? I would recommend you stop watching a television show you clearly dislike. I’m sure there are better things you can do with your time.
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1:41 pm
As satire this isn’t exactly Onion material. It isn’t funny just a caricature of the ugly ignorance that is religious intolerance. Whatever the aim it fails, as “research” with more holes than a miniature golf course or as satire that only succeeds in provoking reaction not laughter. It’s missing the funny Steve. Hits yes, laughs no.
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1:47 pm
I am re-posting this from a little ways up to ensure that the author sees it and doesn’t try to avoid yet another post:
once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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1:57 pm
I am not a DJ and I don’t take “requests” thank you very much. I stand by my article and want you people to stop spamming me with your hate. Frankly I’m getting sick and tired of you people trying to twist and turn my article away from the deeper truths that I conveyed– namely that the show Glee is a terrible influence on children today and should be taken off the air. I know you hysterical fans have intimidated the decent people from posting their support of my views and I don’t think that’s fair. You’re all obviously so obsessed with this show that you can’t understand the effect it’s having on your lifestyle. And why are you so uppity? Demanding this and that from me? You sound a bit unhinged, honestly.
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1:08 am
outrageous. demanding that you stand by your claims and defend them when confronted with a counter argument?
seriously you spew this crap then fly on saying “but i’m right and i can prove it by saying i’m right…and since i’m right that means me being right has to be right.”
it’s retaret and quite frankly you’re insluting our intelligence.
maybe the reason your suports don’t write here is because they don’t exists. that thought ever crosed your mind?
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8:36 am
“I stand by my article and want you people to stop spamming me with your hate. Frankly I’m getting sick and tired of you people trying to twist and turn my article away from the deeper truths that I conveyed”
That’s wonderful that you stand by your article and that you believe so vehemently in its message. However, there are a few things wrong:
1) You put this article up on the internet for public consumption as well as public debate, as this website allows readers to comment on what they read. Please do not be upset that others do not share your somewhat extreme opinions about the show.
2) Since this article is meant to inform parents about Glee, perhaps it would have been beneficial to cite proper facts about the show (i.e. the age of the cast members) and include sources. If you expect parents to read this article and take your recommendations seriously, a good place to begin would be to lay a foundation of trust with the readers instead of presenting them with untrue information. While you are correct in that some of the untrue claims that this article makes do not deter from the article’s message, they highly affect the article’s credibility.
I hope that you do not take this as a personal attack, as I have refrained from commenting about my personal views on the message of the article or on Glee in general, and as such, you can have no idea where I stand. But please do not get “sick and tired” of people correcting the basic facts that you have lacked to include in your article.
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3:33 pm
its people like you, mr billings, who make me embarrassed to be christian. you have done the same job as the man on the crowded street who screams at people as they walk past ‘if you are not christian, you will burn in hell’ – embarrass this religion.
this television show is not appropriate for children of all ages, no one disagrees with you on that. all you have done with this article is insult the actors and actresses, and pick on aspects of the show that are not relevant to the point you are trying to make. i do not understand how a older looking actress playing a teenager, or an actor who lip synchs, or strong willed, confident black woman are at all relevant to whether or not this show is appropriate for children of all ages.
to be an investigative journalist requires some investigation of facts on your behalf, billings.
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5:11 pm
Lea Michele is 23 – not 30. Check your facts. And give me a show that uses actual teenagers that focuses on high schoolers. It’s the reality, mainly due to child labor laws. And even though I haven’t read the article yet, “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals” – nothing could be further from the truth. GLBT individuals are born that way. Shows like the Golden Girls allow people to be true to themselves. Forcing people to stay “in the closet” does nothing but enourage bad behavior (see Larry Craig, Jim McGreevey, Mark Foley, etc). I’m gay, and there’s not a question in my mind. Stop using religion to preach against equality!!
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5:45 pm
Stephenson,
First, you’re an excellent blogger because you’re gotten a lot of debate, which I think would indicate that you’re a good blogger. On the other hand…
I feel as though people need to relax about a television show. Remember: TVs have an on/off switch. If you’re that concerned about the content on television, turn it off. If you can’t think of creative ways to get your children involved in other activities without coaxing them with television, then perhaps you need to examine the issue further. Spend time with your kids. Parent oftentimes get angry with the programming, when in reality, if they’d stop focusing on the “wrongs” in society, they might find that they *CAN* raise “untainted” children.
Stress causes depression and heart attacks. Stressing over something so trivial in nature is silly. Stress about things that really matter. Television is not a necessity to life, however, water is. Pick a topic worth ranting about, and do something about it. You can’t change what’s on television, so change something you have control over.
Just say no to stress and topics not worth having a heart attack over.
And yes, the coach with short shorts is hysterical! My middle school coaches wore shorts like that everyday, and all I could do was laugh and think, “Umm… srsly? WHY?! Wear some highwaters, capris… ANYTHING but those short shorts…”
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9:03 pm
I AM NOT A BLOGGER. I AM AN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST. PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE MAKING SUCH INVALID ACCUSATIONS.
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10:29 pm
Billings, you realize that you just flew off the handle at someone who wrote a very thoughtful, polite response to your article, right?
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12:41 am
the definition of blogger na dthe definition of investigative journalist diagrees with you.
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12:14 am
“PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE MAKING SUCH INVALID ACCUSATIONS.”
Pot, kettle, black. Any questions?
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5:55 pm
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA.
Funniest post on the internet.
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6:04 pm
By the way, Stephenson… you talk about homosexuality a lot. And when I say a lot, I mean A LOT. You’re also dwelling quite a bit on the shower scenes, going into particular details about men with tight biceps, lathering themselves…
Are there some unfulfilled desires going on here? I’m not flaming you, I’m genuinely wondering. Most men who are comfortable with themselves and their sexuality don’t take so much time to point out why homosexuality is bad. They don’t need to.
Just a question. A lot of men question their sexual desires at times, and that’s natural. It doesn’t mean you’re gay. If you have desires, you’re perfectly natural and God does not love you any less!
Love to you and all you carry in your heart!
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9:10 pm
I am a loud and proud Heterosexual, thank you very much. I have written that again and again but you people don’t seem to comprehend what that means. As a Christian and an AMERICAN, I do have a backbone of morality and tradition that informs my journalism and it helps me delve into subjects such as homosexuality. I do not like homosexuality, nor do I like writing about it, but I feel I have an obligation to bring the facts to light about this outrageous lifestyle choice. Many kids think it’s cool to go gay. They use it as a way to rebel against their families or school teachers. Others are led into the homosexual lifestyle through peer pressure or the media (as in Glee). The problem arises 5 or 10 years down the road when the boy realizes he can’t shake the gay lifestyle, that it’s become such a part of him that he wouldn’t know the first thing about approaching a real woman. That’s how boys get stuck in this world. I want to help them avoid falling into that dark, slimy pit of carnal destruction in the first place.
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10:30 pm
The last time I checked my Bible, any sex, hetero- or homosexual, was unclean when performed outside the marriage bed. One is not worse than the other. Let’s shoot for monogamist relations, not just heterosexual ones, hmm?
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10:39 pm
Billings, you couldn’t be more wrong about the origins of homosexuality. As my gay friend said, why on earth would he CHOOSE to be gay? Why would he WANT to be part of a group that is hated and discriminated against so horribly by people such as yourself? As someone who was in high school recently enough that I actually have a clear recollection of it, I can say that NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, finds it “cool” to be gay, anymore than people find it “cool” to be straight. Did you choose to be straight, Billings? Did you wake up one morning and say to yourself, “hmm, I’ve decided I’m going to like women”? Well, gay people didn’t wake up and say “hmm, I’ve decided I’m going to like other men”. Gay people, just like straight people, feel an attraction that they simply cannot “wish away”.
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10:56 pm
this. absolutely this.
i don’t even know why billings bothers responding, if he’s going to dodge every comment to spout some random insult from the top of his head.
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3:43 am
You are so absolutely ridiculous. It makes me phsyically sick seeing that there are people like you in this world. It’s people like you the producers make this show for so that you can see the challenges that people different than you have. This show is not promoting homosexuality or anything else that you have mentioned. Their main goal is to show what high school students go through on a daily basis. If you think that the things that happen in this show aren’t real, or they’re too much for tv, you need to wake up because this is what is going on in high schools across the country. Don’t even try to tell me that you had a perfect experience in high school because it’s not possible. Why don’t you try remembering what it was like to go through the trauma of being in high school or heck I don’t know, put yourself in the shoes of someone on the show and think about how hard it would be to go through what they’re going through. Also, your dislike of gay and lesbian people disgusts me. We all know that a person doesn’t just “choose” to be gay, and it’s not possible for a person to become gay by being around or exposed to it. GIVE ME A BREAK
That’s how boys get stuck in this world. I want to help them avoid falling into that dark, slimy pit of carnal destruction in the first place. SERIOUSLY?! you have got to be kidding me. I’ve never been this angry about something that I’ve read. You need to take a step back a realize that this world is a great place because of all of the diversity we have.
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8:00 pm
“what kind of last name is Snedeker anyway? always did have you pegged as a minority…”
It’s Dutch, dickwad.
And the Dutch part of my family has been in America since the 1640s, so don’t even try to call me a foreigner.
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9:18 pm
Claire, regarding your sister’s anarchist attack “article” that you linked to above:
It does not surprise me that you would come from a family of left wing conspiracy theorists. Your sister writes with the same vigor and cluelessness as you do about the world of adult affairs. Honestly, it’s so easy to see monsters hiding behind every houseplant when you live such a sheltered, decadent life. But try and get outside and breath the air of reality. Meet the people of your community or your church, learn about what is hurting and destroying the world today. There are so many important issues that families are facing– from the rise of sexual promiscuousness, to homosexuality, to the Muslims, to the failing economy on Obama’s watch, etc. etc. I think you would be much more engaged and humane if you tried to understand this. As for your sister, I would say that her theories are completely without merit and have been disproven by common sense again and again. Your world view is clearly losing credibility. Look at the victory of Republican Senator Scott Brown in your state of Massachusetts! The recent supreme court victory against democrat campaign financing limitations as a limit on freedom of speech, the righteous defeats of homosexual “marriage” in Maine, New Jersey and New York (some of the most left wing and absurd states out there). We are on the march to victory! The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!
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10:59 pm
“Claire, regarding your sister’s anarchist attack “article” that you linked to above:”
Haha, funny how you put article in quotes, considering how your “articles” are nothing but rants about television shows and comedians that are riddled with typos, photoshopped pictures, and factual errors.
“It does not surprise me that you would come from a family of left wing conspiracy theorists.”
Well, it doesn’t exactly take a rocket scientist to figure out that left wingers most likely come from families of left wingers…
“Your sister writes with the same vigor and cluelessness as you do about the world of adult affairs.”
My sister could outsmart you in an argument about politics, society, and economics any day. I’d love to see her rip you a new asshole. Don’t mess with her when it comes to intelligence.
“Honestly, it’s so easy to see monsters hiding behind every houseplant when you live such a sheltered, decadent life.”
And what exactly makes you think that I live a “sheltered, decadent life”? Need I tell you, once again, about all the violence that takes place in my neighborhood and my city in general, or about the fact that I was bathing dying people at age 16?
“There are so many important issues that families are facing– from the rise of sexual promiscuousness, to homosexuality, to the Muslims, to the failing economy on Obama’s watch, etc. etc.”
Since you’re obviously senile, I’ll remind you once again that I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality. I’m also offended that you think that Muslims are harming families. If the existence of Islam is a threat to families, then so is the existence of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. The majority of my friends are Muslim, so don’t you dare say negative things about them, because they’ve never done anything to do.
“I think you would be much more engaged and humane if you tried to understand this.”
Humane? Now I’m not humane enough for you? I’m a fucking nursing assistant, animal lover, vet tech student, and animal shelter volunteer! I also give money to homeless people and donate blood twice a year.
“Look at the victory of Republican Senator Scott Brown in your state of Massachusetts!”
Don’t you dare put a fucking exclamation point at the end of that sentence.
“the righteous defeats of homosexual “marriage” in Maine, New Jersey and New York (some of the most left wing and absurd states out there).”
It’s marriage, not “marriage”. Don’t you dare try to minimize the loving union that my neighbors and many other homosexual couples share in Massachusetts.
“We are on the march to victory!”
Who is “we”?
“The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!”
How about you go eat another cheeseburger? Perhaps the cholesterol will finally catch up with you and a mammoth clot will form in your coronary artery.
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12:50 am
wow for once billings said something correct…well he didn’t really but it can at least prove he has part of the understanding.
“We are on the march to victory! The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!”
whille wether or not there’s really a war and who is winning is completly ilogical to make any statements about he is completly correct that morals and justice is determined by the victor in such battels….however saying so is also admiting that christain morals ARE NOT of god but of the victors from previous “wars”.
but once again billings i’ll ask you. why should i follow you morals with the goal of liveing a happy life as a result if liveing by those morals make me misrable? why should i seek joy by denying myself joy? why should i seek comfort by denying comfort? why should i seek friendship in people i dislike when people i like are willing to be at my side? why should i lie to myself only so you can say that i’m liveing a happy lifë without haveing the slightes idea what i feel?
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9:00 pm
This article is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!
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9:16 pm
stephenson billings, i gotta say. you’ve got guts to post this article, and i’m guessing you knew full well that 99% of the comments on here would be directing disdain at you.
honestly, i think your article is full of holes and is complete and utter BS — my opinion. but it IS your OPINION, and i respect that.
what pisses me off is you, having the audacity to throw this article together, and present it to the internet as FACTS. it makes me want to cry. AND — oh, what a joke — you’re going to back up your “facts” with christianity, as if it gives you the right to be a complete ass.
oh, and since it looked like you had a blast bashing homosexuality, i felt like i should share some actual FACTS with you: being gay [or whatever your orientation is] is not a choice. watching GLEE [or ANY show, for that matter] will not change your sexuality. nothing can, and being gay is not a bad thing. there are plenty of gay christians, i can assure you of that. you can’t hide from it. gay people are the same as straight people, we [yeah, i'm gay] just prefer people of the same gender as us.
just like being straight isn’t a choice. you can’t help what gender you’re attracted to.
two things i want to close off: i realize that i don’t type with perfect grammar. i’ve grown into the habit of typing without caps when on forums/blogs/whatever. i know how to type properly, and if you respond with, “Oh, your sentences look unprofessional; I’ll ignore you now,” i will find a way to reach inside my computer so i can smack you.
and don’t you dare mention god or the bible or how being gay is a sin. i’m not going to hell because i don’t like girls. and if you still think i am, well, you can kiss my butt on the way down.
and i can’t resist adding that, from the looks of how this article was written, you, my friend, are SLOPPY! You’re a SLOPPY BABY! It’s just DISGRACEFUL! /lol
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Wow, thanks for the advice. I am so impressed a homosexual has taken time away from circuit parties and facebooking boys to actually do some reading. You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes. You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns. It is enough to make me cry! Why are the gays so mean? Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails. Why must you all be so condescending and verbose? It is not at all fair to an older man such as myself. I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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10:04 pm
way to completely avoid the actual topic to insult me.
“Wow, thanks for the advice. I am so impressed a homosexual has taken time away from circuit parties and facebooking boys to actually do some reading.”
-person, i don’t know what a circuit party IS, and i hate facebook. and i love reading, especially this article. it’s hilarious. just an FYI.
“You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes.”
-i don’t see how i was acting cute or funny [except for the sue sylvester quote at the end; THAT was funny]. and my lifestyle is not absurd, your opinion is. i live like a normal person, i’m just not attracted to girls. what a crime.
“You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns.”
-america is “marching down the path of destruction” because our government/economy is completely retarded, but we’re not discussing that. gay marriage isn’t destroying families. it’s like any other marriage, there’s just no reproduction. scary, isn’t it?
“It is enough to make me cry! Why are the gays so mean? Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails.”
-please don’t cry, your personality would just make it creepy. why are gays so mean? there you go, stereotyping and prejudicing. if someone is being “extreme” or “vicious” to you, well, you can hardly blame them. oh, by the way, i don’t polish my fingernails. it’s not really important to me.
“Why must you all be so condescending and verbose? It is not at all fair to an older man such as myself.”
-um, your age isn’t going to get you sympathy. and also, stop referring to every gay person that exists when talking, please. when there’s rape and murder and terrorism, i don’t blame every straight person, now, do i?
“I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.”
-i suggest you have a close member of your family slap some reality into you. calling yourself “decent” and “humble” is totally hypocritical.
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“You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes. You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns. It is enough to make me cry!”
THIS, Billings, is why you have no friends.
“Why are the gays so mean?”
Because they don’t appreciate your telling them that they’re vile, disgusting, and that their lifestyle makes you sick. Ever consider that, Billings, before going and playing the victim card?
“Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails. Why must you all be so condescending and verbose?”
See my above comment. I have never met a mean homosexual. Remember the good ol’ Golden Rule? Do unto others what you would have them do unto you? Keep that in mind next time you meet some gays and perhaps they’ll be nice to you.
“I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.”
You are far from decent. In fact, you’re so INdecent, that you would be doing the world a favor by just putting a bullet in your head.
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6:29 am
Stephenson Billings, you are the worst excuse for a Christian I have ever seen. You completely ignore Christ’s words of love, but you already have so much hate in your heart that I doubt you can see this. I will pray for you, pray that you are able to open your heart, open your mind, and open your soul to love. Hatred, pride, and jealousy are terrible feelings. I know that. We have all experienced it. But it is when you go so far inside yourself that you think hating is righteous that you are truly in trouble.
Everyone, please join me in praying for Stephenson and resist sinking to his level and using low, common insults. With enough love from us and God he might rejoin our path.
God bless you!
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10:48 pm
After reading just this one comment, I feel as though you must be speaking sarcastically. How could you possibly be saying this seriously?
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9:30 pm
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
So now I am going to state mine.
But everyone can also use a search engine to check their facts. This article is an insult to journalism and bloggers everywhere.
Lea Michele is not 30.
Using a picture of Chris Colfer for an example of a character he plays is wrong.
There are too many errors to list.
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9:39 pm
This post is an awful example of true Christianity. I’m a Christian, one who is completely offended by what you’ve written. Yes, I agree that this show is not meant for children of all ages. I also know, that as an “investigative jornalist” you should actually do your research. As a former editor, I would never have let this article run due to all the obvious mistakes.
As a Christian I’ve been taught to love others. You, sir, are not doing that. I am not disrespecting your opinions at all, but I am disappointed in the way your article comes across. The number one rule of journalism is to do all your research. You did not do all your research, and this article is proof of that.
Yes, I watch GLEE for the entertainment factor. There is far worse on television right now. I have never been offended by something on this show, and I’m one that gets offended at PG-13 movies.
Finally, a Christian should not look down upon others. Take people and lift them up. These are confused teenages. What they need are impressionable adults lifting them up and comforting them. Emma, the guidance couselor, embraces the students and comforts them. Will encourages the students to be themselves and to love themselves.
The very idea that you take their very obvious flaws and condemn them makes me ashamed.
I don’t condone homosexuality, but I know when to keep my mouth shut as to not offend their lifestyle. I try to be like Christ in all that I do.
Finally, I’ve never read anything you’ve ever written, and I’m not going to. As a writer myself, I know that there are several different types of reporting. This, sir, is not a factual interpretation. It is your opinion, and you should not state it as fact. Once you watch all 13 episodes can you report on the factuality and realism on this show. It’s entertaining.
Thank you for your opinion, but don’t bash everyone who doesn’t agree with you. You have a right to your opinion as do I.
It’s too bad you can’t accept that there is more than one correct way to spell a word. I was taught to spell it theatre, and theatre is how it shall stay.
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10:08 pm
This is a hilarious article. Really, really funny. I actually laughed out loud several times. I also loved Stehenson Billings further comments that people who don’t fall in line with his thinking on this subject are “spamming me with your hate”. So funny! I hope you write more satire Billings. I hope that there are more “investigative journalists” out there that write articles where they have to make themselves watch Glee or say…porn. That will be the next article. I “had to” watch tons of porn as an investigative journalist. Just had to. Seriously, this is pure comedy. For all of you “Christians” convinced that Glee will be the downfall of humanity…TURN IT OFF!
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10:39 pm
Is “Skins” shown in the US? I would dearly love to read your thoughts on that award-winning TV drama…!
I particularly enjoyed the bible quotations you spouted as a defense of your homophobia. The Bible was written by man hundreds of years after the events described in it, it went through several incarnations and was translated into modern english by man. Man is fallible & can only write what he knows, thus it should not be taken literally.
FYI this is not an attack on the Bible or Christianity as both have important teachings (forgiveness & love being 2 you might want to re-cap on).
Finally, as a Brit the correct spelling is “theatre”. And no, I don’t use that spelling because I feel I it makes me “smarter” than yourself or other Americans, I use it because in the UK it is the correct spelling, if I was in America I would no doubt use “theater”.
PS Just so you don’t immaturely shoot down my comments as you have with others; I am an adult, I have 1 child, 3 academic degrees (BSc, MSc, PhD) and have had several pieces published in national newspapers, which I assume qualifies me as a journalist.
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12:03 am
actually, if I may be so blunt, I find this one of the least offensive things I have seen.
‘It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.”‘
This however, offends me to the core. I absolutely cannot stand it when people look down on the arts. You can have a very succesful life and career based on the arts and, being an aspring artist & writer myself, requires just as much training and practice as anything else. You can not just sit yourself down and right a bestseller.
As for your comment on Quinn being a ‘bad role-model’. I have seen so much worse. She does not even consider abortion as an option, and in the most recent episode ‘Sectionals’ she tells Puck she’ll ‘do it on her own’, in regard to having the baby. That single line made my resepect for her skyrocket. Compare that to Bella Swan of ‘Twilight’: Clingly, mean, and emotional wreck when away from her ‘perfect’ Edward.
On to Artie. He is, without a doubt, one of my favorite characters on the show. The ‘lip-syncing’ you complain about, is false. All the music is pre-recorded with their actual voices and then played over the filming. It’s normal for the lip-synching to be off sometimes.
Also, He does not need a sidekick or catchphrase. Just more numbers by himself like ‘Dancing With Myself’.
As for Kurt, you seem to be extremly closed minded about this. I’m christian myself and have read the bible, and does it not say ‘love thy neighbor’? Kurt is one character on one television program. I hardly think he’s going to convert all of America’s youth. You do not see me going around and hitting things with keys because that’s the weapon in Kingdom Hearts.
Also, his style of dress is one of the best things about his character. Just because someone does not dress according to what crazy magazines say does not make them a horrible person. Bright colors are the best thing ever.
Also, it’s a musical so there are supposed to be musical numbers.
a last note.
‘is devoid of gun violence’
actaully, I really like that about this show. No one dies.
sincerly,
Kelly, logical fourteen year old.
If you are worried about negative effects about America, look at Twilight. That book is much more a problem then Glee.
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12:17 am
“right a bestseller” !?! Oh Kelly, you’re so young! Why don’t you forward this article to your parents, okay sport? I think they should take a look.
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so an eroor like that in a post is enough reason to disregard it completly? allright people move along billings have just admitted we should not care what he writes.
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4:53 pm
I apologize for the grammer mistake.
however, if I may so, you sir have very poor debating skills. In all honesty you remind me of the behavior of Starbucks in a suit a teenage worer filed against them. You resort to personal insults, attacks, and intimidation instead of the issues at hand.
Also, for your information, my mother watches Glee with me every week. If she did not want me watching it, she could have said so at any time.
I pray you can come to respect people who chose note to follow paths set my close-minded folks such as yourself.
(ironicly, my itunes started playing the Glee soundtrack as I typed this.)
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1:09 am
oh jesus i just realised just how hypocritical this idiot is
“They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true”
yet in your last post you said that it is right now NECECARY THAT KIDS DREAM AND THAT THEY DREAM BIG!!! yet you condem a tv-show for telling them to do that?
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You are completely fucking insane. In conclusion, Glee is a completely awesome show and you are full of bullshite.
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So, I read this article with the assumption that it was written by a well-informed investigative reporter. I wasn’t sure what to think by the end. I mean, how can anyone who considers themselves informed write such nonsense? Continuing onto the comments and the replies that Mr. Billings gives to some of these comments, I came to a conclusion: Either this man is sincere in his bigoted opinions of minorities or he is sitting at home, reading these enraged comments to his friends, laughing his ass off that people believed him. I’m praying it’s the latter.
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You’re absolutely right, for a show about music it has far too much musical numbers in it.
Also, you say that the dancing isn’t realistic because “No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
I know for a fact, from all the actors on the show, there are four who had training, and they don’t play any of the lead roles. All the leads haven’t got that training, shocking right? As an Investigative Journalist you should probably know that kind of facts.
And forcing the actor who plays Kurt to kiss a guy or whatsoever? I think Chris can decide for himself if he feels comfortable, you know, he might even wants to do it? And I’m not an Investigative Journalist, but even I know that’s right, because in every interview Chris tells us how much he loves it to play Kurt, and how he wants a boyfriend for his character. No forcing there, right?
If you did any research AT ALL for this piece of work, you have to be the worst researcher ever. A person who writes this kind of stuff can’t call himself an investigative journalist.
I don’t think anyone can save you from all the hate you feel, and I feel sorry for you.
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8:26 am
If parents aren’t responsible enough to teach their children that a television show is not “real life” then the fault is with them, not Glee. You don’t like it? Don’t let them watch it. Simple as that.
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8:41 am
I’m 29, mother of none and single. I watch Glee and I see my high school. Sure, we weren’t choreographed (sp?) but we had some students with serious amounts of talent. My teachers weren’t all hardened, some genuinely tried with each and every one of us. We dealt with these issues in high school, this is a sad truth. Our friends had abortions. Our parents cheated on each other, lied to each other. Our friends had babies too young. Our friends were gay. Some of them did get hooked on drugs Through it all, we were always there for each other, whether it was to help a friend cope with knowing their parent had committed adultery or to lend a shoulder to cry on when someone had grasped the reality of killing their first child. I’m not saying it’s a kid’s show. But it is a reflection of what my generation experienced in high school, even if the people are too pretty and too perfect – such is life on TV. Folks who are up on their pedestals preaching can’t stop people from letting out all they feel about what they’ve experienced. Not unless they start killing them. Generation X, you had your turn to let out how you felt. Glee is a representative of Generation Y doing the same thing.
Rather than trying to condemn the show and take it off the air, I wonder…Would it be more appropriate to talk to your kids maybe about the bad things that sometimes happen in the world?
A television show is a drug…That I just cannot comprehend. Alcohol is a drug. Niccotine is a drug. Opiates are drugs. Last I checked, you don’t inject yourself with a television show. You choose to sit down and watch it, or you choose to change the channel, or you choose to dump your TV altogether. I just don’t know about people sometimes…
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8:19 pm
Jen, I really don’t need your life story here, but yes life is tough. Why, then, should we add to the misery of the world with a show such as Glee? It only promotes and celebrates the negative traits of humanity and instill them in the heads of children as interesting, cool and acceptable. i don’t see how that is right by any measure. As a Christian and a lover of my fellow man, I do feel a responsibility to speak out against the awful influence of that show. Why you people want to pillory me for that, I do not know. Maybe you fear the light I shine on your dark, private corner of the world?
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9:33 pm
you base i don’t know how many of your facts on your life why can’t we do the same thing for our counterarguemnts? if her life expirience is invalid for the argument so is yours.
the goal of the show is not to celebrate those things(at least not all of them) when the show is about drugs if it celebrates anything it celevrates kids will to say no or get over an adiction.
everything isn’t like the bible. it doesn’t need to be for what it’s about. it’s goal is to entertain and just because you do not find it entertaing does not mean it fails at that.
as for why we keep going at you for doing what you do? why do you wanna take our joys in life from us? answer that and maybe you’ll also find the aswer to your own question.(here’s a hint what we do to you is basicly what you do to us)
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10:08 pm
Jazzy, I wish you would stop trying to play the magical philosopher here on Christwire. You love turning my words around and attacking my personal, Christian experience. The truth is I am far older than you (and many of the other teens here) and I have seen much of the world and the world’s people. You guys should appreciate the fact that I am willing to share those worldviews with you now. Don’t go all psychological and try to undermine me with your liberal hate. I really do care about you! Listen, you sound like a decent young man and you definitely have the fire of self-righteousness burning up your belly, but why not take a step back and appreciate the insights of your elders? I have a moral foundation which has taken years to build. I can’t expect you to understand that. But have a little faith! Trust me when I say you won’t be sorry if you give your life to the Lord! And listen sometimes to the men you meet in life, men who care and love about you and only want the very best for your precious soul, no matter how much self-abuse you practice. Again, that offer of a camping trip is still on the table. Feel free to email me any time.
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11:08 pm
“Again, that offer of a camping trip is still on the table.”
NOBODY HERE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR SEXUAL ADVANCES. STOP HARASSING ALL THE YOUNG MEN ON THIS WEBSITE. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD.
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5:53 am
magic? i know logic is unfamiliar to you but to call it magic?
i make personal attacks because by doing what you do to us, to you i may make you understand why it is we are so much against you.
yes you are older than me and in truth considering other proples worldview is important. but i have come to the conclusion that you are an idiot.
me selfrigthous? i don’t belive i’m any better than any other man for what i belive. i do however belive i’m better than you for not enfrocing my belifs on others. i do not ask that you leave behind you christianity but that you stop makeing me follow it.
yes you have morals that doesn’t make you right. i too have morals does that mean everyone should listen to me?
and i won’t be sorry giveing my life to the lord? i don’t belive he exists and i hate wasteing my time. you can’t even phantom people being difrent from you can you? everyone must be the same right?
and i will always listen to what every person i meet have to say. that doesn’t mean i’ll blindly follow them. i’ll take what they say to consideration and if it sound logical i will make it part of my morals and life style. however your rants are devoid of logic. they are nothing but a man claiming to be the pinacle of humanity who expects everyone to live by his word. for some reason you see yourself as flawless and out of that logic everyone who isn’t like you must be flawed.
there is no universal truth. what we can do is live life in a way that makes us happy. if being a christain makes you happy good for you but i just don’t need it. i live by logic. if it’s not logical i can’t understand it. and christainity defies logic. liveing by it would make me misrable because i’d have no idea hwat i’m doing.
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10:07 am
As a PARENT I have no problem with Glee whatsoever. I notice you bring up Bugs Bunny…a show that had many gay moments between Bugs (an animal i might add)
as well as pure unedited fantastical violence. Also a show I absolutely wouldn’t miss as a child because it was hilarious. That must be why I like Glee
I miss the homosexuality of Bugs Bunny.
Theatre
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10:30 am
OK, this guy is complaining about Glee, yet we have a moron like Pat Robertson saying a country that just had a major Tragedy is to blame for their own earthquake. Sorry but even tho I believe in God I would like the 700 club off their air, I think they are way more dangrous that Glee.
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10:58 am
You seem incredibly paranoid that Glee is going to turn the typical American male (perhaps you?) into a bunch of prancing homesexuals who can’t go two hours without discussing their Prada loafers, singing showtunes, and having sex with each other.
“…steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap…softcore utopia”
“relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
Sounds to me like someone’s been closeted too long and is scared of succumbing to his long suppressed desired.
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8:03 pm
Ian, I think you are projecting your own insecurities and sexuality issues onto what you perceive in my writing. There is only a homosexual subtext when you are so obsessed with the gay lifestyle you imagine those demons hiding behind every bush in your life. Yes, I talk about the gay influence of this show. i wish I didn’t have to. It’s not something I enjoy, but I also feel it’s terribly necessary as part of my mission. I do think you have your own agenda here, and that’s to try and insult me. Isn’t it funny that left wingers all say they accept homosexuality, then use the label to supposedly smear or discriminate against someone else? In this case, you’re calling me “gay” as an insult because deep down in your heart you know it’s wrong. But it’s that hypocritical to your liberal life views? Think on that one, my friend.
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11:49 am
This is very funny. I’m assuming it’s satire; do be sure to send it to the writers of Glee so they can get a good laugh.
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2:18 pm
The only people stupider than the right-wing nutters this site parodies are the people so dim they don’t know it’s a parody. You’re on the same level as conservatives who think Colbert is supporting them, not mocking them.
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2:54 pm
I didn’t even make it through the whole article and I know it’s full of crap. I have seen every episode of this series and openly scoffed at some of the things you have said. Shame on you for branding something as ‘evil’ without even watching it. It’s people like you that give Christians a bad name.
Stay classy.
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8:11 pm
And it’s people like you who sat on their hands when fascists marched to power.
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4:03 pm
And its people like you who became the Nazis
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4:12 pm
How about instead of demanding television shows be taken off the air, lets demand that people that can’t differentiate from fantasy and reality and think the realm of imagination is the most flawless and overcomplicated conspiracy ever ever specifically made to infringe on your personal ideals should not be allowed to watch television or have any input whatsoever on other people’s choices.
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8:08 pm
Dear Jack, I agree. It’s about time we heal the divisions in the country and work together to build a world we can be proud of! The clear desires and intelligence of America has been becoming more and more prominent lately. We want to move forward with a righteous policy in the Middle East, we don’t want a corrupt Congress to give free money to the bankers, we will not let this country’s health care system go down the tubes, we want REAL change in Washington. The future is happening. People are outraged. I think one great example of this is the victory of Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts. He has come to power on the wave of populist, heartland American sentiments. He is our future as are the other men just like him out there. Gay “marriage” has been defeated resoundingly in Maine, New York, New Jersey and that’s just the beginning. Despite the arrogant attempts to overturn Prop 8 in California by a bunch of high paid trial lawyers and those fringe “special interest” groups behind them, the hardworking decent Americans are winning. I am excited for a clean slate in our mid term elections. Time to upset the status quo!
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4:22 pm
hey buddy
settle down
glee is pretty good
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6:12 pm
Wow, you seem really obsessed with the football team, and their shower sequence. that’s… um.. well… pretty gay bro.
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7:11 pm
You do realize it’s a TV musical series, right? As in, the show is designed to showcase the musical numbers. So I don’t see how your criticism that there are far too many songs in a musical is a valid one. I agree with the instant gratification of these students being able to sight-read difficult musical arrangements, but expect this level of polish on a major network musical.
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8:00 pm
Robert, my criticism is a completely valid outgrowth of my work as a cultural analyst and writer. I believe the plot of this show suffers from all those silly little dance routines and the singing and I find it gets in the way of the plot, it slows down the plot and keeps the real action from happening. Who wants to watch those parts anyway? I tune out when they start singing, it’s like a desperate plea for my attention, a cry saying “Watch what I’m doing now!” coming from an unloved child who has been left alone on a community beach. I find it both unpleasant and unnecessary. But frankly, what does that point matter? Not only does the show lack substance, it lacks credibility. The dance spots don’t make it seem real at all, it just highlights who childish and fake this show is. Irregardless, it should be taken off the air anyway for the reasons I mentioned above (it’s offensive content, etc. etc.) so I don’t know why you people are so obsessed with my saying there’s too much dancing.
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5:57 am
the parts of the bible where jesus talks about moral and stuff like that should be cut from it. it slows down the plot.
billings if you watch a musical and don’t like the music and ancing aspect you are an idiot. it’s like going to the theater and complay that you have to watch actors. or go a resturant and complain that they serve food. or buy a car and comaplin it has wheels.
you don’t like musicals fine.i don’t like the bible. should we remove everything that somebody doesn’t like?
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8:54 pm
What is wrong with you? You find a man hugging his son “unseemly”?
How many of these episodes have you seen?
The sheer amount of people writing in to point out your stupidity should be a wake up call.
You spread your hate around and call yourself a Christian.
I give up on you and everyone like you. You’ve obviously been raised like this and are incapable of thinking either sympathetically or logically. Have fun in your closed minded hell.
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9:57 pm
Adia, I can’t explain why so many of these hysterical Glee “fans” have decided to spam my article and attempt to suppress my free speech. Maybe they’re afraid of the truth I speak, maybe they’re afraid of truly looking in the mirror at themselves. Or maybe it’s something more questionable– like they’re afraid others will learn that this show is a fraud and that people so consumed with watching it have a lot of problems that need to be addressed. Frankly, I suspect they’re hurt that someone has finally shaken them awake from their syrupy dream of a Glee-like fantasia. Yes, I am trying to show you people how immature you are. You only have one life to live, why throw it away being addicted to a make-believe world of sexual debauchery and youth?
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5:34 am
“You only have one life to live, why throw it away being addicted to a make-believe world of sexual debauchery and youth?”
i don’t know. why do you belive we should waste it following a non-exsiting entity. maybe just maybe we should use this one life doing stuff that makes us happy? yes you have the right to free speech that doesn’t mean we don’t have it too. and we use our free speech to tell you why we don’t like you just as you use it to tell us why you don’t like us. where is your proof that you speak the truth? why are you sure we have problems?
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10:34 pm
After reading this article (and being more insulted that I ever have in my entire life), I have to conclude that you are wary of finding out the real truth behind the motivations for such a show and would rather flaunt your so called “faith” in a God that doesn’t approve of anything, but you’re supposed “acceptable” lifestyle. If you were in the least bit educated, you would be aware that many studies have been done to show that sexuality is just like handedness and we are born with a predisposed attraction to a specific sex, regardless if people like you, who believe you are better than these very normal, loving people, disagree.
I am a 22 year old woman finishing my degree in English Literature where a major theme in so many of those works of art is indeed, homosexuality.
The message you and others like you, who consider yourselves superior for all the grace of your God, only inspire racism, bigotry, and ignorance.
Now, I know you may be thinking this young woman (of an inexperienced 22 years), doesn’t know what she is talking about and MY GOD doesn’t tolerate or accept these ridiculous expressions of homosexual love. Let me inform you that for seven years of my life I was a strict, legalistic variation of the Apostolic Pentecostal denomination. Before I left the hypocritical excuse of a house of God, I began to ask questions (at the unbelievable age of 15, believe it or not) and I guess you can predict that those questions could not be answered for me. All I found in this church was cynicism, judgment, and blatant hypocrisy. The best thing that ever happened to me was leaving this place of degradation and overt intolerance. I apologize if my vocabulary surpasses your understanding, you see, I’m aware that this type of motivation behind a piece like this is ignorance.
This church I belonged to had the most teenage pregnancies that I have ever seen in a group of young people. Also prevalent was the use of alcohol, drugs, not to mention the previous referenced sexual activity. Don’t blame your kids sexual curiosity on a show about a group of TEENAGERS (hardly thirty, you ignorant bigot) that found acceptance when they were outcasts in a judgmental high school.
It is this type of article that inspires such prejudice in our country. I’m done ranting because you or your backwoods, uneducated views aren’t worth my time. By the way, I, in no way, read this web page. It was posted via a social networking site as a disgraceful and reproachful excuse of journalism.
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11:00 pm
Why are you so afraid of love and wisdom? I am only here to share my faith with you. I find it so hypocritical that you liberals claim to be so accepting to diversity, and then when someone comes along with an idea you don’t like, you use every trick in the book to shout them down, make expressions of their faith illegal and generally turn this country into some politically-correct thought-police prison state. Well, guess what? You will not steal my freedom from me. You will not suppress my faith or my desire to speak truth to power!
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5:27 am
you’re wrong again. we still belive you have the right to belive what you want. but you don’t have the right to make your belifs affect us. just as we don’t have that right either.
we are afraid of your “love and wisdom” for the same reason you are afraid of ours. we disagree with your belifs. why is it you belive that we can’t be happy without liveing life the way you do? if liveing by those morals make you happy then i belive you should. but since it does not make me happy but rather makes me hate life i won’t live by them.
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12:00 am
Mr. Billings-
Are your arms tired yet? If I was you I’d be exhausted by now…….make the cast, set the hook, and reel ‘em in for all you’re worth. Jesus Christ on a fucking pogo stick, do none of these retards understand satire? An absolutely brilliant website…….I’m bookmarking this for when I need a good laugh at the fundies. Well played, sir, well played.
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1:14 am
First of all, you should know that I am a fellow Christian. I have been my entire life and have wrestled with my beliefs until I finally knew that they were solid, that they were mine. I believe in God. I believe in Christ. And because of that, it is REQUIRED that I believe in love.
This article and several of your responses to comments made by your readers unnerves me incredibly because of the lack of love. I wouldn’t be commenting if it were just an informative article on some uncomfortable themes present in the show Glee (which I do watch and I do like; it’s a matter of filtering. I understand that in any TV show there will be things I do and don’t agree with. I’m confident in the things I believe and when the day comes I look forward to answering whatever questions my kids may have about what they happened to see on TV. Obviously I won’t be shoving Kill Bill down their throats, but a show like Glee opens up a safe space to discuss the hard subjects).
But the reason why I’m commenting is that every response you have given to the comments here are only furthering the opposing arguments. Your comments have been quick to anger, attack, and judgement – to the very point of showing prejudice against the British spelling of “theatre”. I understand that it’s natural to feel defensive in these situations, but this is excessive and absolutely ineffective. And it’s the very thing that these comments are pointing out in your article.
Personally, I would be more quick to listen to your thoughts if you were quicker to listen to mine. And I don’t mean that as an attack. What I’m trying to say is that there are more respectful ways of going about the argument that you have instigated.
At the risk of serious cheesiness;
Love your neighbour as yourself.
The greatest of these is love.
God is love.
I know you recognize these, so please understand why it is that I’m embarrassed at your lack of application.
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3:12 am
“Love thy neighbor” eh? What if thy neighbor is a pedophile or a serial killer? I am sorry to break this to you, but “love thy neighbor” and “do not cast stones” are two of the most overused and mistakenly construed elements of the Bible. You have to understand Christianity and the Bible are a guide to how we live our lives. You cannot side step or forget that. The whole “love” nonsense is used by liberals to try to discredit the wonderful foundation of Christianity. And you know what? Sometimes we have to judge, particularly when it’s a bunch of radical democrat atheists who are throwing slander and pedophilia our way. Because you know what? That’s what they want. They want to legalize hookers and free health care and illegal aliens and sex with children and all sorts of evil. Well, I’m sorry but it’s about time the informed and intelligent and moral amongst us speak up! Yes, I have to be tough on these perverts because what they’re doing is disgusting. They’re destroying society, they’re insulting America and they’re denying Christian faith. So don’t tell me I’m not a good Christian. I am as good a Christian as you may meet because I’m actually dedicated to making this world a better place. if you’re too weak and pathetic to accept that, then that’s your failure (before the eyes of the Lord!). We are made to be advocates of faith and righteousness. If you give up on that fight because you might lose your friends or you husband might argue with you, then you don’t sincerely believe. Don’t lie to yourself and don’t live to me. I’m sick of you fake people pretending you have a clue about morality.
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3:50 am
Who is the fool? The jester who makes a jest, or the person who mistakes the jest for candor and calls the jester a fool?
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3:37 am
I’m really surprised a self-described “journalist” who is particular about “proper” english wouldn’t know that “irregardless” isn’t a real word.
People like you have made me become an atheist but nothing I’ve ever seen or experienced has ever made me become gay. So obviously, religion is much more of a tenuous choice than sexuality. FYI- I’m a 45 year old hetero woman so you can’t blame youth or orientation for my attitude towards your backwards views.
It’s really sad that religion is more often wielded for hate than for love.
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5:43 am
Irregardless isn’t a word? Oh, you must be plenty smart! Where did you learn this garbage? Did you even bother to consult a dictionary before you lied to the world?
DEFINITION:
ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose.
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12:31 am
So you copy and pasted from dictionary.com?
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10:56 pm
As has been pointed out to you before, please include THE ENTIRE entry if you’re going to copy and paste from Merriam Webster’s Web site.
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
See that last sentence again: Use regardless instead.
And again: Use regardless instead.
One more time because you’re old: Use regardless instead.
While you are correct that it IS a word, use of “irregardless” is considered improper English. If you’re going to profess to be an investigative journalist, have at least a small amount of credibility in your statements. M’kay?
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11:06 pm
“Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.” –Ephesians 6:4.
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11:18 pm
“Copperdome bodhi drip a silver kimono, / Like a crazy quilt stargown through a dream night wind.” –Robert Hunter
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5:08 am
PEOPLE! Calm down. a simple google search will make it clear that this is satire. Nobody on the internet is this retarded.
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5:36 am
I have been incredibly decent and reserved thus far but you know I’m starting to get a little exhausted by you people. Honestly, I am trying to help and all you want to do is spam me so hard my own opinions get drowned out by your hate and dissent. I did a great deal of research for this news piece. I have years beyond most of you teens living in the REAL WORLD. I am a man who has only shown a love to others, a love founded on many years of faith and education, based on an incredible aspect of American history, namely Christianity and the Bible. Don’t try your discrimination tactics on me. I am sincere and faithful and I don’t get these childish claims that I am not who I say I am. I am frankly disgusted by you all. So obessed and concerned and dedicated to some second rate tv show more than you are to your own mothers and children. You should truly all be ashamed of yourselves. It’s just a tv show! If only Americans were so in love with Patriotism and Progress and Morality, this country would be a far better place. You people don’t seem to have the time to vote or go to church or donate to Haiti relief, but you have plenty of time to mold with your couch while shows like Glee are on the air. How do you think you parents would see you? You’ve become sloths, failures, defeatists who are willing to give up for your bathroom breaks at commercials. Whatever happened to the true American traditions of family and love and good government and faith? You people are honestly disgusting and stop trying to disparage me, just because I have love in my heart and need and want to share it! I am here trying to help you out of the chasm.
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5:48 am
1. I don’t hate you. I think you are hilarious.
2. Stop questioning my intelligence. You are hurting my feelings.
lovelovelove
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5:52 am
I have never in my life met someone so full of hate and despair.
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5:58 am
Shut your mouth, sir.
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what you give is what you’ll get back in return.
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2:01 pm
Hey look, the pedophile is talking about outing pedophiles!
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3:52 pm
“I have years beyond most of you teens living in the REAL WORLD.”
The real world? You mean your cozy little suburb in Tennessee? That’s hardly the real world.
“I am a man who has only shown a love to others”
Stereotyping gays as sex-crazed animals who want nothing more than to hump any warm body against bathroom walls is not what I consider to be showing them love.
“So obessed and concerned and dedicated to some second rate tv show more than you are to your own mothers and children.”
Considering how you just referred to the majority of posters on here as teens, I certainly hope that they don’t have children.
“It’s just a tv show!”
I don’t watch it, and in fact, I had never even heard of it until you wrote this “article”. But I’m defending it simply because, in your own words, “it’s just a tv show!”
“You people don’t seem to have the time to vote or go to church or donate to Haiti relief, but you have plenty of time to mold with your couch while shows like Glee are on the air.”
Oh give me a fucking break! Your comments are totally asinine and unfounded, especially the comment about church. You seem to have forgotten that not everybody in America is a Christian, or is even religious at all. Therefore your comment about not having time to go to church is null and void. And it’s funny how you mention having time to “mold with your couch”, considering how, judging from your picture, you’re not exactly “Mr. Fitness”. Fat hypocrite.
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6:49 pm
The Maine was sunk during McKinley’s presidency at the end of the 19th century. It was a episode of the Spanish-American war, not some 1950s Soviet incident as you strangely claim. The rest of your argument is so laughable it has no merit. Please do not try thinking so hard, you’re embarassing yourself.
Your writing style is incredibly self-important and pretentious. If you actually hope to make a living out of writing, I suggest first going to school (!) and also learning a tad of humility. A few months seeking out a cubicle in the American job market will surely humble you (particularly with your attitude!). Overall, I am disgusted by your disingenuous typing style. It most surely is the product of some indulgent liberal background. Well, the rest of the world knows you and your lifestyle are frauds and are too disconnected from the TRUE AMERICA.
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7:24 pm
“Your writing style is incredibly self-important and pretentious. If you actually hope to make a living out of writing, I suggest first going to school (!) and also learning a tad of humility.”
*tea sprays computer screen* Are you fucking serious??? Are you honestly suggesting that somebody else needs to learn some humility??? Three words: WHAT THE FUCK?
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7:28 pm
Sorry Claire, this response was to “Carrie” below. My response to you is below her comment.
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7:21 am
For all of you following out there:
“indulgent liberal background” = “well-educated”;
“True America” = “imaginary land in which everyone shares my warped perception of the world”; SEE ALSO “the South.”
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5:15 am
Next they will probably say the Tele-Tubbies are gay!!!
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11:02 am
Mr. Billings, your logic is unsound, and your journalism has no integrity. You repeatedly use techniques in this- and other!- articles that are much better suited to the op-ed page than to any actual newspaper piece. Yes, this is a Christian website, used to promote Christian values, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are writing sensationalist words with only perfunctory research to back them up. It’s reminiscent of how journalists reacted after the sinking of the Maine and during the 1950s with McCarthyism. Such writing only leads to fear and anger, and is tantamount to shouting “fire” in a crowded room. That’s terrible journalism that would get you terminated or at least suspended at any major print publication, because the way you present your “facts” could easily lead to them getting sued.
You are also very condescending, and resort to ad hominem attacks when people challenge the veracity of your facts. Instead of logically arguing against the points they raise, you simply ignore them and attack their being. That’s not good debating or being mature. It’s the kind of reaction the kids in my 9-year-old nephew’s class have. They can’t find anything to say, so they resort to “YOU’RE A POOPY STUPIDHEAD.” Although yours isn’t quite so immature, it certainly smacks of the same attitude. The condescension you also have towards teenagers and children is downright repugnant. This article was certainly meant for parents, but you should know that putting it on the internet opens it up to be read by anyone, and criticized in the same way. Criticism is part of writing, and someone doing so doesn’t constitute “spam”. If you had gone to any reputable college for any writing program, you would realize this.
I do not know where you went to journalism school, nor do I care. Nor will I respond to anything you write because I don’t feel like engaging in an online slapfight with someone who obviously prefers to hide in an ivory tower instead of facing the facts of the world today. I will say that your generalizations, your inadequate research, and your condescending/inflammatory language in both comments and article are what truly undermine your integrity and credibility.
I presume you will attack my education, my character, and my intelligence, so I will say this: I am in my fourth year of college. I have been working towards my bachelor’s in English language and literature, as well as in German. I am taking a year off at the end of this semester to immerse myself in German culture and language. My minor is in journalism, and I have plenty of experience in politics, covering the local entertainment industry, and working with the public. I volunteer at the soup kitchen and homeless shelters when I have time on the weekends. I’m a scholarship student who works 30 hours a week, and am engaged to a wonderful man. I grew up Christian and affiliate myself Republican although I do tend to vote moderately. I did vote for President Obama. I provide this information simply to dispel any notions that you will attempt to manufacture to discredit me.
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6:43 pm
Claire, you have a tremendous amount to learn about the real world. I realize it’s tough being young and wanting to be popular, but training yourself to be so loud and shrewd will not help you. I want you to travel down the path of beauty and faith. I want you to believe in things and have hope that the future will be better. I want you to know the love of Jesus Christ. He died for YOUR SINS! There are people out there ready to love YOU!
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8:14 pm
“I realize it’s tough being young and wanting to be popular”
I’ve already given my opinion on popularity and how I never wanted any of it. You’ll find my quote below:
“I couldn’t give a damn about “social success”. Frankly, the last thing that I’ve ever wanted is to be popular. All I need in life is my family, my cats, and a couple of friends who I share common interests with.”
“I want you to believe in things and have hope that the future will be better.”
Your notion that I’m an incredibly unhappy person is completely unfounded. Just because I don’t believe in god and in Jesus, and that I support the right of gay people to be happy makes me UNhappy? Are you on glue or something?
“I want you to know the love of Jesus Christ.”
Well I don’t. And considering how it’s MY life, what I say goes. The last thing I’m going to allow is for some fat, ugly pedophile to insinuate himself into my life. Yuck.
“He died for YOUR SINS!”
Hmm, I don’t recall being around 2,000 years ago, nor do I recall ever sinning. Feel free to go and live by your little book of fairytales, but keep me out of it.
“There are people out there ready to love YOU!”
That remark is not only repulsive but it’s also offensive. In case you’re too dense to realize it, I have parents who love me very much and who I love very much. That’s the only love I need.
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8:42 pm
Watch your tone there sweetheart.
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9:00 pm
“Watch your tone there sweetheart.”
1. Don’t call me sweetheart, you pervert.
2. That’s your rebuttal? Telling me to watch my tone? You’re pathetic.
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1:17 pm
I have this crazy idea….. maybe this is satire? Just a thought..
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2:27 pm
Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh bigot!
Out of sympathy, I just wanted to let you know that there’s a whole world out there, you should really get out more. Hiding in your shell and making up hateful rubbish will not be very fulfilling…
Please find your rationality and humanity because it appears that you may have lost them – oops
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2:41 pm
Just one example: You clearly didn’t know that Kevin McHale (“Wheelchair Artie, sadly sans “funny catchphrase;” nice) was in a successful band before the beginning of the show. This article is so over the top and misinformed it’s practically self-parody.
BTW, YOU seem a trifle obsessed with what goes on in the boys’ locker room.
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6:30 pm
You little “factoid” is irrelevant to the larger conclusion of my article. I wish you Kevin fans would stop promoting his career on here. Are you trying to drum up sales for his flagging CDs? It won’t work here, buddy.
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2:52 pm
Overreact much? The criticism about the show not seeming “realistic” is particularly absurd: THIS IS A TV SHOW for crying out loud. That said, I think parents should watch the show first to determine if it’s appropriate for their children, as there are adult themes dealt with that not every parent will be ready to expose their children to. But as an adult, I think the show is wildly entertaining (if at times a little melodramatic for my tastes).
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6:27 pm
You need help.
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3:27 pm
Mr. Billings, while you may have done a considerable amount of research on the show, how much research have you done on the people who actually watch it?
You make huge assumptions and claim that pretty much anyone who watches the show will instantly believe that they possess the ‘vocal chords’ to break out in song and the choreographic ability to dance. You claim that people who watch the show will believe everything in it.
Now, let me say that you make the claim about ‘real world high school’ and compare it to the fantasy created in this TV show.
You know what, I go to ‘real world high school’. Many people within my age gap also watch Glee and attend these real world high schools. What’s more, WE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TV AND THE REAL WORLD.
Yes, clearly the show is exaggerated. Why? Because people our age do not want to come home from a day at high school to watch a TV show that shows them high school again. What would be the purpose? That is like you, Mr. Billings, getting home from work, wherever that may be, and watching a TV show about a man working and doing the exact same things you do. Are you really going to chuckle at something you have probably done today or are you going to chuckle at the fact that Quinn is a pregnant virgin (oho!).
Another thing I would like to cover is that just because we watch something on TV does not mean we will instantly believe it and/or try and do it. At this age in our lives, we can make our own decisions and we choose and know what to believe and what not to believe. You make claims that we are still mindless and will believe anything we’re told, or in this case, seen. While that may have been YOU when you were a mid to late teenager, it is not the case with our generation. We have so much more influencing us than some TV show about singing. Have you seen a modern music video? Perhaps some shows on MTV. I don’t particularly watch the show, but there’s some show about being pregnant as a teenager(?) I believe. Do you HONESTLY believe that our generation will watch that show and instantly believe it is okay to be pregnant at 16? Where do you get this reasoning and logic from. Have you even met anyone in our age range (that has not been brainwashed by your insensible logic)?
We are smarter than you think. Of course there should be a certain age requirement to watch this, but for those who actually can watch and understand the show…you have grossly underestimated us.
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6:35 pm
Are you a journalist? Do you have any idea what it means to be a news journalist today? I really don’t think you do. Why don’t you temper down your hysterical rants and leave the reporting to the professionals. You may disagree with my points, but you’re clearly an amateur– probably part of this big left wing effort to deny my right to free speech. You people are grotesque and frankly insane.
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8:37 pm
Dude, you don’t report on news, you report on popular culture.
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2:57 am
this comeing from the guy who we as “kids who know nothing about the real world” have time and time again had to explain the basics of journalism to?
also you may have the right to free speech. but if you wanna use it you have to take resposibility of what you say and be ready for any critisim other people may have. free speech isn’t a shield you can just put up and say”i’m alowed to say this and there’s nothing you can do about it” because there is. we can use OUR free speech to give our openion about what you have said. if you can’t deal with this then you are not worthy of free speech.
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5:10 am
A journalist, as defined by dictionary.com, is one who practices journalism.
Journalism – noun: 1. the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
You were merely a 3rd person reporter and writer. Please do not think you are above me. In fact, it is MY generation you are ‘reporting’ about, and our reaction to Glee.
You are not our age, and do not attempt to act our age or understand us. You never will, sadly. Hell, when I’m older, I will not understand my kids either. It’s just impossible.
I am not ‘reporting’ on anything. You base your article off of secondary sources. I am a primary source, and I trump all (not to sound arrogant, but I’ll fight fire with fire). You say I am an amateur journalist. That I am. But I am certainly not an amateur teenager. I know myself, and frankly, my entire generation, better than you or any of your sources will ever tell you. If you are trying to analyze my generation, you’d best begin to agree with us or never win the argument. Face it, teenagers understand each other better than anyone else will. Just like how I will never understand your age generation as well. I can observe and and hypothesize, but I will never truly understand your generation.
But since you’re such a ‘professional’, you’ll have known that your research has to come from the audience in question, people my age. So let us see your research, let us see your sources. If you are truly a professional, you will know that there are two sides to an argument: a pro and a con. You are clearly against Glee, so a true professional would find a person who is pro-Glee, mention some quotes, cite some things, and then break down their argument. I have yet to see you do that, Mr. Professional.
No, I have not denied you, nor have I attempted to, your right to free speech. Interpret the constitution however you want, but last time I checked, an argument or debate was not infringing on the first amendment. In fact, it is you who DIRECTLY attempted to infringe upon my right, and I quote: “Why don’t you [...] leave the reporting to the professionals.” Is that not you attempting to curb my right to opinion and free speech? Don’t even try with the professional vs amateur argument, it won’t work. I am the professional, you are the amateur, in this case. While you may be more well learned than me, you can’t ‘learn’ being a teenager. And while I may not be a ‘professional’ teenager, you certainly are an ‘amateur’ teenager and I am clearly above you, since I live this life.
Moreover, may I add, Mr Professional, that your article is full of non sequiturs. You make random claims and jumps that are almost completely irrelevant. You cite nothing, you base this off nothing. If you are such a ‘journalist’, what are you reporting if you have no statistics or numbers? You are merely ‘reporting’ your own opinion, in which case you should consider yourself the guy who writes letters to the editor of a newspaper, and not the one who writes the newspaper. While you believe you may have conducted your research, you clearly have not. You fail to provide where you base these claims off of. Your argument, and I know that ‘reports’ should not have opinions, but in your case, this is an opinion and not a report, is not compelling because of your lack of evidence.
“You people are grotesque and frankly insane.” Either/or reasoning much (to an extent)? So I either agree with you or I am ‘grotesque’ and ‘insane’? What is the reasoning behind that.
I do not want to be offensive, and it is not my intention, nor was it my intention with my first comment. I consider this a debate and clash of opinions. But what pushes me to make strong remarks is your belief that you understand us. To you, and all adults frankly, you will not understand our generation, just like you probably did not understand YOUR parents, and your parents with THEIR parents. This is something that happens with age gaps. Your argument, while it could have been compelling (without its either/or reasoning), is wholly weakened by your belief that you understand us.
You don’t.
I mean, do you even understand why I would be up at 2AM just to write this?
I think not.
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5:56 am
“Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom–both young and old–surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” –Genesis 19:4-8
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3:28 pm
Thanks, Stephenson, for the laugh! I almost spit my Ovaltine all over the monitor. Poe’s Law in action. I love it!
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Thank you so much, Stephenson. This show is an outrageous lie and hopefully more people will see that now. I don’t think you made one point in this article that I found myself disagreeing with. Students should focus on sports as a means to get into college and nothing else. Career training, in high school, is a must. After all, it’s not like students are required to go to English, math, history, and science. And most of all, fathers should never accept or, even worse, hug their own sons for any reasons… ever.
Thanks for reminding me why I’m out and proud.
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Seriously – someone here is spending way too much time watching and analyzing Glee. There’s a simple solution, people – it’s called the OFF switch. But ya know? Don’t think it’s your job to decide what *I* (an ADULT) can watch on TV or what *I* can choose to allow my kids to watch. You choose for yours, I’ll choose for mine. Fair enough?
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7:52 pm
i am so upset i want to cry. glee teaches love not hate like your ideas. glee is about caring and being ok with what you are. it is a great show and has helped many people. it shows you its ok to be different and have musical talents no matter who you are. i lovethis show and dont want it to be taken off the air. i am mad at people like you who want glee gone. you are killing tv.
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12:56 am
You seem a little young to be visiting this website. Why don’t you get your parents on the internet. Okay, sport?
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allright i’ll bite. at what age is it that our mind and body will aparantly explode with maturity and knowledge and make us able to understand the world so that we will automaticly agree with you?
why is it you are of the belif that a person of the age 16 heck even 12 would be unable to take such a simple choice as what to fucking watch on tv? what age would you have to be to decide to get married and forever bind yourself to another human being? 108976 years old?
yeah there are some teenagers out there who make bad decisions and ruin their lives but i’d be able to find cases where 40 year old does it aswell… therefor you too are unqualified to make any decision in life.
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8:51 pm
HAHAHAHA…this is great comedic writing by the author…oh wait, you mean he was serious…actually serious? What a joke! What a buffoon this writer is. He probably still watches re-runs of Leave It To Beaver, and STILL finds THAT show offensive!
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10:22 pm
Wow, you Christianists are seriously disturbed.
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11:56 pm
I was sent to this article through a friend who was beside himself at what you we’re saying about a TV show. I read through it all, and as I respect your opinion and see that this is your job to write for this website, it was your replies to the comments that I found to be extremely offensive and catty.
I am a Christian woman and while I’m not a journalist and or fan of Glee, I cannot understand why you are telling others to “settle down” and shooting bible verses at them, when you haven’t once addressed anything real these comments are saying. You can debate the show until the cows come home, I don’t care, but as a Christian, isn’t one of the biggest pieces to look inside yourself and ask God if what you’re doing is good and righteous? I’m not attacking your level of faith or commitment to God, but your responses to these people, who some are being respectful, are sassy, sarcastic and immature. Not one response I read so far (in a forum of over 240 comments) has agreed with anything you said. Which, I understand, isn’t your reason for writing articles like this… I know it’s for informative value (although I read it as closed-minded, offensive, etc.) but why take it to another level in the replies? For example, the comment about the spelling of “theatre” or “theater”, what a waste of your time to try to get us to think you are somehow smarter than the rest of us for pointing out such an insignificant, shallow error. Man, you spent an awful lot of time debating childish things like that. You clearly get your jollies from trying to prove people wrong, which I don’t think any assured, self-respecting Christian should. You are terribly defensive and that shows arrogance and disregard for other peoples beliefs and opinions. God has taught us to be equal. No one better than the other. So why are you acting as if you have the last say about this dumb TV show? What would your response be to someone writing about your favorite TV show or book, slamming it to the ground, then acting like you are misguided, wrong, and shallow when you try to defend it?
This is the first time I’ve been to this website, and it will probably be my last, thanks to your attitude. Yes, the world needs people to shed light on things that seem inappropriate for kids, but your style of writing is all together outlandish and childish. And while other comments may not have had the time to sit and think clearly and intelligently about what they wanted to say, I would assume all of them agree with me… since not one of them agree with you. Another oddity, a Christian man who sits on a computer, behind a shield of (somewhat) anonymity, and judges things in an non-constructive manner, just to be shunned entirely in hundreds of comments? Wouldn’t you think someone would find a more promising and righteous profession, something with more purpose than to create Internet hate? I look forward to your response.
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12:06 am
Hahaha, I love how all of you so called “Christians” are required to love and accept everyone, yet you post things bashing homosexuals and show tunes. Why? Or is it that you’re really that insecure about yourself and you realize that your organized religion is not all it’s catching up to be. Listen, I’ll admit, I believe in God, and I may judge someone whether I like them or not, but you guys need to stop determining the fate of others “Gays will go to hell.” Okay, where’s your evidence? So your just going to believe anything someone tells you? Has God told you on a first person basis that this is going to happen? I think a kind loving God will accept anyone, good or bad, and you so called “Christians” are fucking corrupt. Stop trying to oppress, you’re not doing the human race any better.
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12:50 am
“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son to be the satisfaction for our sins.” –John 4:19
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12:32 am
I suspect you’re a latent homosexual who can’t get anyone to sleep with because you’re a disgusting prick. Maybe we can dance together in Hell sometime!
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12:44 am
Thank you for showing us the maturity level of the average Glee fan.
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1:00 am
You know absolutely NOTHING about me or my maturity level, so I suggest you stop claiming that you do. You are so concerned with hating on a TV show that promotes tolerance and understanding, when those are two things we need more of in this world. What we need less of is assholes such as yourself purportedly spreading God’s word. When, in reality, you’re spreading stupidity and hatred.
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1:38 am
Is this meant to make us LOL (laugh out loud)? Because you have failed.
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2:44 am
try “make you understand you are an ass”?
he did still fail but he should not feel to bad about that nobody so far have managed that because you are too far in you little world of ignorance.
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12:51 am
This is clearly satire.
Do not get yourselves worked up over this ignorant bullshit!
Christians are the ones who need to be offended, because this is clearly anti-christian satire.
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/03/19/Explicit_Inflatable_Wolverine_a_Hoax/
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/03/26/faux-religious-site-satirizes-rapelay-controversy
Satire is suppose to be funny, but this website is just offensive. But there seems to be a lot of people who believe it is real and are extremely upset with the articles they post. When you repost it on social networking sites or tell your friends, you are only giving them what they want. All they care about is how many people visit their site. He/she are exploiting a sensitive subject, and now have a successful website.
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1:18 am
Wow, I’m not even sure WHERE to begin on this. Let’s start with the basics however. You say your an investigative journalist, yet there are so many errors that I have to wonder what your investigation consisted of.
Lets start with the beginning and continue from there:
Your first sentence you state “it’s full of vibrant teens dealing with the gentle challenges of high school life” yet then you go on to describe all the adult challenges they face in the show.
2. “let me start with the characters. They are just not believable. All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life. The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools.”
Did your investigation turn up that his is a musical comedy? I challenge you to name any realistic comedy, let alone a musical one. They don’t exist. They are humorous parodies of real life situations.
2a. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
Let me help you a bit, both episodes 9 and 13 had “sexting” portayed in them. The series also has the character Sandy Ryerson who was in 5 of the 13 episodes, who deals pot.
3. “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers”
See above comment about musical comedy (a play or motion picture in which the story line is interspersed with or developed by songs, dances, and the like.)
4. But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.”
Your statement implys that you don’t find the “arts” as a serious carrer. TV, Movies, Music and Theater are a Multi-Billion dollar industry which employs MILLIONS of people. These are just most predominate known arts. The “art” also include chefs, architects, designers and artist. Even if you were to live in a cave and make your own food the arts are all around you in practically everything you do and have. Perhaps I am reading more into your generalize statement, maybe you only meant singing isn’t a career, perhaps not.
5. “On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. “
Actually they only state that an athletic scholarship isn’t a guarantee to get into college.
6. “Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club. If children take this belief to heart, it could wind up seriously hurting their chances of college survival as well as their health (sports are essential for keeping fit, strong and attractive!).”
Actually your statement is biased and unsupportive. The number of athletes who have gone onto full scholarships is less than 2% of those who try out for those scholarships. For every 100 who try out only 1 or 2 will get “full-ride” scholarship. No one on the show ever stated that a minor singing club would get them into college, however college boards look for extracurricular activities in making their determination for acceptance.
“7.”Another major fault with the show is its fawning celebration of teenage homosexuality and consumer indulgence. “
How to address this statement? There is one homosexual character on this show. That the character is liked an popular among his peers you somehow contribute to fawning? If he was ridiculed would that have made you like its portray? I would be interested in hear how YOU thing they should have portrayed the character.
7a. “Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument.”
I disagree completely to this statement. The alternative to “gay lifestyle” is a straight lifestyle. This show is full of straight characters living heterosexual lifestyles. Your statement is you want the character to “reject his homosexuality” I would support this if another straight character rejected their “heterosexuality”.
Your article comes off as nothing more than an attempt to attack the gay lifestyle. I don’t care if that what you wish to do, free speech and all that. However I do have issues with your attempt to veil your attacks under journalism into a television show. Just write an article saying I think gays are wrong and move on with it.
Your article could be written about any show out there, yet you try to pretend that this show is propagating something you (if you had actually watched the series would know) know it does not. I find it insulting that you make show tunes, musicals and acting synonymous with gay. I find it more insulting that you are trying to convince others of this.
Write what you mean and stop hiding your word in veiled disguises of concern for children.
On a final note you don’t have to worry about gays “destroy the beauty of marriage,” Straight people have been doing a fine job at that for a long while now as the number of divorces are over half of the number of marriages in the US. Congratulations on that.
I fully expect to seen another article from you in the future discouraging the parents of today from having their children pursue a career in religion based on the number of allegations and crimes committed by priest and clergy on minors. After as you said you don’t want to disregard any sense of “fair-play”
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1:22 am
Stop showing off.
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2:26 am
How is that showing off?
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5:59 am
“‘Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God.” –Leviticus 19:32.
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9:37 am
Wait, wait, wait…. did you just quote scripture to essentially say “Listen to me because I am older and wiser”????
First of all, you have NO IDEA how old that poster was, and second, the defense of “don’t point out every asinine thing I said in this article and prove me wrong, because I am older than you”, is one of the most pathetic and sad things I have seen on the internet. You freakin religious bloggers, you have no patience for anything that does not fall within your small scope of the world, yet you ignore parts of your own bible when it suits you. Step up and be counted. You put this crap out there, this guy posts a clear, point by point rebuttle to you, and all you can say is “Quiet, I’m older”. With all the other foolish, and mean spirited responses you have gotten to this article, you blow off one of the most legitimate and well constructed counter arguments. Why?
Well, I am going to assume it’s because he was right on ALL counts.
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2:52 am
awwwwww did someone look through you “journalism” and expose you for the ignorant homofob you are?
well i guess it kinda counts as showing off when a completly unprofesional can outdo you as a professional but then again we have for months been telling you that no matter how much you lie to yourself you are not a journalist.
admit that you have just once again been disproved or take up a serious disgusion. this is disgraceful. this is what shameful truth would do when he was unable to defend his article anymore. and that is why i’m starting to suspect that you and him are both invnted by the same person.
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1:25 am
This is one of the most misinformed pieces of and I quote “investigative journalism” that I have ever read. This can hardly be called journalism as journalism has to do with reporting factual information with out a personal bias.This is at best a poorly written opinion piece and at worst a bigoted piece of garbage. Although I did get a good laugh at your homoerotic turns of phrase.
I think I will do an opinion piece about how this is not fit for kids to read( and yet is easily accessible to them) and how your article will turn them gay and ruin our world.
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4:16 am
Okay, first of all this article is seriously misinformed and actually quite contradictory. I am not going to go in to the details because to anybody who reads this with an unbiast viewpoint, they will be able to see that this article is full of biasism and is not neccessarily true.
Yes, there are many aspects of this show that may influence teenagers, but looking at Glee, compared to most other TV shows out there, it is tame.
It is actually one of the best shows because it showcases the diversities of the characters, this reflects real life.
I’m sorry to the author of this article but I am a Christian and while I do not believe homosexuals should have ALL of the same rights as hetrosexuals, I do believe that they should be accepted in society, so that our world can move forward, not take a step backward.
The themes of Glee vary, but are completely true to real life and what people of any age must stuggle to deal with. Glee just puts a little bit more of a lighthearted approach to the subjects, (e.g. Ep 6: Vitamin D). This episode clearly shows the characters taking drugs, and while they are not illegal the same message is clear, that it is wrong to take drugs. The characters struggle with the guilt of their decision to take the drugs and in the end confess to what they did. This is a prime example that Glee IS a television series that has decent and wholesome rolemodels for the younger generations.
Glee also shows teenagers that it is perfectly fine to embrace whoever you or others may be, it actually shows that instead of stereotyping we should accept everyone as they are no matter their race, age, sex, religion, sexual preference, etc.
In high schools there is definetly an atmosphere of the “popular” people rule the school and the “geeks” are the least popular, while everyone else is somewhere between. Glee brings these two stereotypes together and attempts to overcome them. It does work to an extent as well.
To anyone else who reads this article, I seriously hope you read it with an unbiased viewpoint and decide what your opinion is based on what you read and actually watching the show Glee as well.
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4:50 am
i love the glee + golden girls mashup steve. i can’t wait to use it on my blog!
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5:03 am
What are they talking about??? I would love to eavesdrop on that conversation!
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9:34 am
I think they just read this article.
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9:55 am
Sorry, that doesn’t qualify as funny.
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4:56 am
THEY TALKING ABOUT COCKS AND HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEM!
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6:10 am
Speak Your Mind…words cannot express the anger you, Mr Billings, have caused in me. If I met you in public I probably would have punched you. Stop being a stupid, ignorant bastard and actually crawl out from under your rock and get in touch with the world…actually no don’t, we don’t want you!
I cannot believe that for an instant you can imply that homosexuality is bad, I myself am gay and I have never been more happier, you clearly have some deep issues and are nothing more than an ignorant, prejudice, homophobic prick, it is people like you, who fuel the flames of hatred and anger towards gay people when, instead they should be embraced for the culture they bring to this world.
My suggestion to you is that you stop making this world filthy and go and lock yourself up!
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6:14 am
I think you need to read: “Homosexuality, The Enemy Within.”
http://christwire.org/2010/01/homosexuality-the-enemy-within/
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6:48 am
I actually did read it, I must admit it was quite interesting and I was amazed at a few of the things you had to say.
“We heterosexuals are the Grade-A meat at the gay barbeque…”
well I personally wouldn’t touch you if you were the last person left on earth.
I did think the article was good, made me laugh, I still prefer to be gay
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6:59 am
Auther completly misses what Glee is. It’s not supposed to show what High School is really like. It’s purposly fulled of stereotype characters. It’s a parody on what every one jokes High School is like.
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7:06 am
Of course I completely understand what this nasty, rough tv show is about. I have seen it! Have you? It’s disgusting and offensive to all the senses. Why do you like it? Shouldn’t you be ashamed of yourself?
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1:54 pm
you are disgusting to all the senses…aren’t you ashamed you exist?
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8:59 am
Thank you for a very amusing article, you are a talented comedy writer. For a second I thought you were being serious, it was really THAT good.
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9:31 am
Basically, if your children arent smart enough to understand that the show is all fake and bullshit then they sefinitly shouldnt be watching it.
But most kids have enough brains to know that its all pretend, come on. let them watch it and know what not to do. show them how stupid it all is.
im 16 and when i watch it i dont sit there and aspire to be like them. i think about how stupid the whole bloody concept of the show is, the only part i like watching is the singing.
and more than likly thats all they’ll like too. its actually a borning show in my opinion.
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9:52 am
I suggest the show, The Rockford Files. It’s my favorite!
http://www.hulu.com/the-rockford-files
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10:02 am
O, this one for Rockford info too!
http://www.thesandbox.net/arm/rockford/
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10:13 am
Hi Aimee, I’m sorry but I’m a little muddle headed this morning! I see now that you mentioned you are just 16. Do me a favor and let your parents see this article? I don’t think it’s appropriate for someone your age to be making these big important tv decisions. Okay?
Stay in school, sport!
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1:21 pm
“I don’t think it’s appropriate for someone your age to be making these big important tv decisions. Okay?”
If a 16 year old is considered old enough to consent to sex, they’re old enough to make “big important tv decisions”.
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10:52 am
Please, stop calling yourself an investigative journalist. Considering how many facts are incorrect in this article simply because you failed to google the actors or watch more than two shows, it’s an embarrassment to the field.
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7:38 pm
Your hypocrisy is astounding.
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5:05 am
i’m sorry but i fail to see anything hypocritical. well beside you billings.
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8:11 pm
This lady’s hypocrisy is monumental and indefensible.
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2:06 am
in that case would you mind to point out what part of her comment is hypocritical?
where did she say/do something she ´had at a previous time told you not to do/say?
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9:12 am
Victor MaRTin.
That’s all.
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11:45 am
It is odd that this devout, non-homosexual writer has such and in-depth knowledge of the Golden Girls.
Further, like most straight men who would be asked to describe the show, he seems to have spent a large amount of time consumed with the “shower scenes.”
I can only recall 1 or 2 “shower scenes” the entire season,
but somehow the writer of the article observed that
“They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap.”
Did I miss some episodes? I am surprised he was able to type “tight biceps” and discuss “lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap” with his left hand,
as his right hand was undoubtedly busy.
I also found it enlightening that the writer noted that “This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing,
suicide and larger questions of faith.” Interestingly, sexting