What Every Parent Should Know About The TV Show Glee
January 21, 2010 by Stephenson Billings
Filed under Faith Links, Featured, Moral Alerts, Movie and TV Review, Values & Lifestyle
An innocuous little show popped up on America’s tv screens late last year. Its name is “Glee” and it’s full of vibrant teens dealing with the gentle challenges of high school life. These are fresh-faced kids, hard working and motivated, who can break into song at the drop of a sweaty football. But is there more to this sugary pop of a series? Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations? What makes this show so popular?
An in-depth analysis of Glee will certainly raise the eyebrows of parents across America. It contains a surprising number of mature scenarios– from pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation. Glee goes out of its way to appear wholesome at first glance. The first 15 minutes of every episode is quite polite and that’s part of its success. It is colorful and cheerful with a scent of innocence. The message it seems to send is that teens should stay in school and aim for college. Yet beyond that (once the adults in the room tune out), it descends into a much darker place.
The Parents Television Council warns that Glee contains, “gratuitous sex, explicit dialogue, violent content, and obscene language. It is completely unsuitable for children.” This is reason enough parents should be tuning their teens out of Glee. But I would go even further– the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast. I sincerely believe that no person or organization should continue to finance this show.
SEXUALITY, SPORTS AND SHOWTUNES
To understand the dangerous implications of this poorly conceived series, let me start with the characters. They are just not believable. All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life. The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.
Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?
Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance. But it’s not convincing on that million-dollar stage. They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.
Ultimately, these ad hoc songfests give children a very false impression about talent and success. They are led to believe if they just spin around and shout, they’re creating world-class music. They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true. Some people are born with the vocal chords for music, others have the bodies for football and others have the brains for math. That is reality. But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.
On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club. If children take this belief to heart, it could wind up seriously hurting their chances of college survival as well as their health (sports are essential for keeping fit, strong and attractive!).
Another major fault with the show is its fawning celebration of teenage homosexuality and consumer indulgence. Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
THE GOLDEN GIRLS CONNECTION
Recently, I wrote about studies that revealed the dangerous influence that the 1980s tv show “The Golden Girls” had on American men now in their 30s, 40s and 50s (see “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals”). The link between watching the Girls and increased risks of homosexual behavior was made abundantly meaningful. In a nutshell, the Golden Girls turned a generation away from procreation. It made our American boys into the most raunchy, campy, carnal people on the planet. If, as a society, we could have returned to the 80s with what we know now and stop that show, American culture might be drastically different today.
As I write about Glee now in 2010, I can’t help but think that America is on the threshold of another dramatic cultural shift. If we let this show continue, our children will find a way to watch it. It is a drug that is that addictive. If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be? How many middle-aged men will find themselves in a dead-end Glee-based lifestyle? Will they be ostentatious and sensitive, their dreams smashed up against a wall crying out to have that giant hole in their souls stuffed with some musky foreign thrill? Will they be violating what’s left of our traditional cultural landscape with unimaginable high-tech perversions, drenching, nay drowing the bright young men of tomorrow in their relentless sauces of net porn and showtunes, maximized liberties and stem-cell party drugs? Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist? Change the channel my friends. Change the channel and change the world!
PARENT’S GUIDE TO THE CAST OF GLEE
- Football Player Finn: An implausible character who goes both ways– glee club geek and handsome football star. He reminds one of the old lady Sophia on The Golden Girls– a bit of a cute, befuddled sidekick with some comic lines, but not a central character in the best scenes on the show. I truly feel for the actor who performs this poorly-written role, though I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.
- Sue the Cheerleading Coach: Her acting comes across as pretentious and egomaniacal and possibly too masculine (is this intentional?). Tone it down a bit, that’s my advice. Bea Arthur of The Golden Girls has already done everything and anything you could possibly imagine doing in your career, Sue.
- Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.
- Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.
- Mercedes Jones: Her sassy attitude does not set the right example for today’s young girls. She does sing well, and I appreciate that but I really don’t think this show is the right fit for her career. She really sticks out like a sore thumb. I could see her in a church choir, however. Or maybe play the wheelchair role?
- Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.
- Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.
- Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often? Is this supposed to be funny?
- Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.
- Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly.
This post was submitted by Stephenson Billings.
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Clearly you do not watch any of the latin weeks…
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your going to jail
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and if anyone sees the real adam nelson ( his link is afr ) tell him his favorite pagan warlock is back and looking for him
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I agree there going to jail but how retarded can the ones who wright these blogs cause they be fucking idiots If you guys are so fucking christany go burn the pagan
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To be completely honest I hope I have angered a few people with this comment, it means that you might just open your eyes and look outside your little closed-minded world.
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This is truly genius… how you can keep typing with a straight face is beyond me… not breaking character even once.
Just Brilliant… the whole site, funny as all get out, but this article puts it over the top.
And the fact that you are getting such impassioned responses… just amazing. That people would take you at your word shows that you have brilliantly portrayed the extremist Christian fundamentalist mind-set perfectly.
My hat’s off to you, sir. I especially like all the links… very clever.
And adding “The Golden Girls” to the mix? Genius.
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I love how much is NOT factual in this article. I believe you (Stephenson Billings) see everything homosexual in “Glee” because you are in fact a homosexual yourself.
P.S. This was the most entertaining piece of shit I’ve read in awhile. Good Job!
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ZING!
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OK. Seems this guy’s getting a lot of hate and while I understand why, I do agree with some of his points. Let me first say though: I’m 13, unlike most of the people commenting, and I’d like to think I’m intelligent enough to decide what shows I watch, without my parents telling me what will ‘corrupt my innocent mind,’ though they do try. That being said, I’ve recently stopped watching Glee because I don’t agree with it’s morals. I’m a Christian, and for all the messages about no discriminating, it sure makes Christians look like hypocrites and liars. Many of my friends have strong views, whether its Christian, or Hindu, or atheism. Being Christian doesn’t mean you’re brainwashed, as someone here said, and I was horrified when I read that. It’s a choice that you make on your own free will and for me and my friends at least, we agree with its morals and it makes us happy to serve a God so kind and strong and giving. He’s poured out blessing after blessing for me and my family, but I say, I can only try to share what I have with you; if you choose to reject it, it’s your loss.
My friend was watching Glee the other day, saying, I hope Emma gets Mr. Schuester. If anyone doesn’t know, Mr. Schuester is married. That made me sad… Making affairs and adultery look glamorous is commonplace nowadays, and noone does it better than Glee. They turn Mrs. Schuester into the ditzy, clingy wife, making viewers WANT Emma to end up with him, and no doubt they will. If I were a little less convinced about my morals, I might just think having an affair is okay, it’s glamorous, it’s all about the romance and when it disappears you move on to the next person… when you’re in a relationship, keep looking over your shoulder for someone better…
As for gays and lesbians, I have nothing against them, if it’s true. I object when it’s about lust, just as I object when it’s lust with straight people. Can’t stand people who discriminate, but lately, isn’t that what Glee is doing- shifting the hate (and I hate hate as much as the next person) onto Christians? I happen to know that the director, or someone of that sort, is gay and for that reason, dislikes Christians. Now, broadcasting your stereotype of them worldwide, collecting the hate and making life difficult for them, because of your own vendetta? Now isn’t THAT a little hypocritical from someone making a show based around equality?
^ Wow. I just read all that and realised how serious I sounded. Sorry for that, just had to get my point across, even if it was a little blurry~ Just a little insight from a teenager. xx
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“Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations?”
well seeing as it’s a not a kids show…no?
at least no more worried than what effect it might have if they watch carebears for 20 hours…
“the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.”
let’s make a compromise. the bible get the smae treatment and we have a deal.
“All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life.”
oh no never heard that before have we?
“This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”+”This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” = WTF CAN YOU AT LEAST AGREE WITH YOUSELF?
also it’s a tv show…they aren’t exactly know for their realism
“Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?”
or maybe they were aiming at the female audience? but no you’re right it’s far more likely they want to apeal to gays than to girls right?
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers”
and the bible has to much conflicting logic. whats your point? that you dislike the show = it’s evil?
“They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
want me to go on about a rant on realism in the bible? allright: jesus did about 1000 things that can’t be done by anyone.
but then again like this it’s not the real world and therefor it fucking doesn’t matter.
“Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.””
and back to my opening statement so sorry taht some people in this world don’t agree with you. want a fucking cookie? maybe there isn’t those things in it because the creators don’t belive homosexuality is an illness? no actually i’d love for there to be such a charecter…cause i’d be able to see him get smashed in the face by the people on the show who are sane.
i’m sorry but the fair play you talk about just don’t work that way. i mean it’s not like the bible presents the idea of god not exsisting either? where’s the fair play in that?
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I understand your beliefs cause you to dislike this show, but next time, make your argument more credible by staying away from exaggerations and try to get all of your facts correct.
There are so many things I would like to discuss, but let me say one thing.
Encouraging kids to “have fun in the arts” is not a bad thing. First of all, Glee does NOT tell kids to quit school, and quit their future for the arts. It is telling them to use the arts as a way to find happiness in HIGH SCHOOL. The characters on Glee are who they are because of people like you who condemn anyone who is different. High School is not one big, happy place. There are students who really struggle with being different and need to find what makes them happy. Glee is about “opening yourself up to joy” (a quote directly from the show). The kids in Glee club are HAPPY there, which makes high school a better place for them. I “had fun in the arts” when I was in high school. It taught me how to be a team player, to love myself, and created an incredible support system between my peers and me. At the same time, I graduated in the Top 10% of my class, got accepted into all 8 of the colleges I applied to, recieved academic scholarship, and am attending a top school on the east coast. Yes, “having fun in the arts” really made me a failure in my life..
Also, Glee is a TELEVISION show. Which means- IT IS GOING TO BE FAKE. You said it’s not believable, but the whole purpose of TV is to ENTERTAIN. It is also a MUSICAL show, which means they are going to break out into song. Breaking out into song is NEVER believable, but that’s okay, because it’s not supposed to be real. It is on a network specifically for tv shows like this. It’s not on a history channel, a documentary channel, or an education channel.
Hopefully you will learn to not displace your anger about parts of the show (i.e. homosexuality, teen pregnancy, etc.) on other aspects that are reasonable, because you just sound ridiculous and dramatic. You really do need to get your facts straight, because the majority of your post is made up (for example, in no part of the show do men do things in the bathroom). I got the impression that you actually believed the lies you wrote.
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(note: heavy sarcasm)
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Slang derogatory language? It’s called sarcasm. And furthermore, I don’t appreciate the Bible bashing.
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I was commenting specifically about “TrueChristian’s” use of the word “f*ggot”, not about you Kevin.
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Also,It’s funny that Corinthians 6:9-10 actually uses the word “Homosexual” when the first known appearance of the term homosexual in print is found in a 1869 German pamphlet “143 des Preussischen Strafgesetzbuchs und seine Aufrechterhaltung als 152 des Entwurfs eines Strafgesetzbuchs für den Norddeutschen Bund”.
As well, gay locker room orgies? Wild male sex desires? I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom? Are you for real? I mean, come on, if that’s someone’s fantasy it’s yours because non of that things have happened on the show, and I highly doubt it will ever happen. Is it may be that you’re actually a closeted religion-obsessed homosexual? Too much golden girls?
Besides, Kevin McHale (Artie, the guy in the wheelchair) do actually sings, he was part of a boyband, and I don’t get why you mock someone that is interpreting a minority that should be respected and admired for their determination and courage? A sidekick or catchphrase? Holy rusted metal batman! What about no?
About the Jewish thing, how much hate your little Christian heart can handle? the homophobia, sexism and misogyny were not enough so you added some religion intolerance?
And finally, God is about love and respect. I highly doubt that God hate gay or Jewish, or any other people. I really think and hope that God actually loves us for who we are with all or imperfections and is not a hate-trowing I’m-the-only-one-with-the-truth kind of guy that you are. God bless you my friend.
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Furthermore, I do not hate the Jews. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating one Jewish man as an icon for today’s young Christians. See:
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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Dear Xtians,
Please stop trying to ban and destroy all the things you don’t agree with.
You wouldn’t want me and all my fellow high-IQ atheists to ban and destroy YOU, would you?
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Lea Michelle, the actor who plays Rachel, is 23.
I’m not even going to touch the rest of this.
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Um, Glee couldn’t even SAY the word ‘abortion’, let alone present it to the audience.
And everybody else has already said what I’m thinking, so yeah.
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If you think the show needs to be immediately shut down and no longer broadcast because it’s so immoral, what are you doing watching it?
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Dude, what kind of a fucking moron are you? Just because you were tied to a chair and forced to watch Jimmy Swaggart as a child and it turned you into a religious prick doesn’t mean that everyone else is so empty headed.
Do you even live in the world you’re commenting on? I don’t really think so. But since I don’t have the intellect of a soda bottle collector and investigative journalist (nosy body voyeur), that mey explain why your “logic” escapes me…
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Being an investigative journalist requires that you actually do some research and not make narrow minded false accusations about something you don’t understand. If you would have watched the entire first half of the season (which you haven’t, as stated in the comments), and come to these conclusions based on actual episodes, then your story would have had some credibility. Calling yourself an investigative journalist is a disgrace to the career field.
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You couldnt be more wrong, once again. Quinn said she would not have an abortion. She made on mistake, but she still is a Christian and said that having an abortion is out of the question. Finn(her boyfriend), was the one who suggested it, and she said no because she does not belive in abortion.
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What are you talking about? The girl (Quinn) never went to any clinic. The only time Planned Parenthood was ever mentioned was when one of the adult characters offered to take the girl and her boyfriend (or something along those lines).
That and Finn’s asking “Are you going to get a..” were the ONLY mentions on the entire show of abortion.
Maybe in your sick, twisted mind the possibility of an abortion is “always there”.
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While the cheerleader’s first response was to turn to a clinic, please note she chooses NOT to abort, but to carry the child and give it up for adoption…a testament to the fact she is part of a Christian family…I find that to ultimately be a positive message.
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To clarify, Quinn doesn’t even go to a clinic…she is asked if she was going to go and she says no…..
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“I don’t know exactly the episode you’re referring to, but clearly the show deals with issues such as having an unwanted child and teen pregnancy. When the blond girl student gets pregnant, the first thing she does is consult Planned Parenthood, which is an abortion clinic. It was all very obvious for anyone who has seen the show! And yes, this issue is constantly repeated and dealt with in other episodes. While they might not say “abortion” out loud, we all know it’s there.”
SHE NEVER went into an abortion clinic, when the main guy asked if she was going to get an abortion she CLEARLY said no. Dont base the whole arguement on a show that YOU CLEARLY have not watched, and understand nothing about. the show is realistic enough, clearly, you went into high school in the WRONG era of time. And by the way HOMOSEXUALITY isnt spreadable, like mayo on bread, people arent lead into the gay lifestyle. spekaing of gay lifestyles there is more than one type of gay life style, just like there are different types of life styles for different types of people. NOT all gay men are sexualized freaks who bang every man they see. some are just as reserved as a republican man, and others just seek a relationship.
Get your facts straight before blatantly attacking something.
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. Some Planned Parenthood facilities offer abortion services, but not all. Planned Parenthood is a health care provider that offers birth control, pre-natal care, testing for std’s, etc.on a sliding scale for women of all economic levels.
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Oh my! I cannot believe that you actually think Planned Parenthood is an abortion clinic! I have personally been there for many things, but an abortion has never been on the list. They supply birth control and lady checkups mostly. Their idea is their name PLANNED Parenthood. They know teenagers and young adults are going to do things in private and they want those people to be SMART about pregnancy.
As for the whole article, it is crap. Apparently someone who has a lot of time on their hands and a lot of hate in their heart wrote this. This person obviously is not as close to God as he should be. I may not be the most religious person, but I know my God is a loving and forgiving God. He loves all his children. (He made them, you know.)
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. As a Christian, I am appalled when I come across completely false, fear-mongering articles like this one. If you can not even take the time to check basic information (Lea Michele’s age, the various services offered by Planned Parenthood, whether or not the statistics behind your Golden Girls claim are sound…) then why should anyone take you seriously? If your goal was to caution Christians against a harmful social influence, perhaps you should have warned them about ignorant bloggers who wave their opinions about wildly as if they are fact.
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Never in my life have I’ve been insulted that much.
Let me give you a little insight. I have been involved in the arts all my life. I am currently in COLLEGE studying Musical and Technical Theater. I currently have a 3.5 GPA and I am quite satisfyed with the way I am living and what I am planning on doing for the rest of my life.
You did not even mention the point of the show. It’s a show about the underdogs, about those who were never really appreciated for their God-Given Talents in school. Thay are the people who were put down and not considered “normal”. The show sends the message of being proud of who you are no matter what imperfections one may have.
About the show in general. Have you heard them live? I have and they all sing just as well as it is percieved. Yes, at times the lip-synching is off, but that’s part of the show.
And ABORTION?! Where in the world did that come from? I don’t even think they mentioned that in the show at all! Know the facts first!
About the sports: You are acting EXACTLY like the people on the show, that sports regn over all and the rest can just forget it. My sport is MARCHING BAND and I am SOOO proud of that! At least in my sport it requires THINKING!
It was one of the most insulting and unresarched article I have read.
I agree with the majority. Watch the show before you comment.
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I have watched this show, almost most of the episodes in fact. That should be clear to anyone reading my article with all the facts and references. I stand by my depiction. This is an article meant for parent by the way. Adults need to have a broad, informed opinion on topics. This is not a fan site! This is a Christian website offering wisdom and perspective for adults, and in this case adults who have children who want to know what and why they’re doing things.
You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.
As for the sports aspect, I am a former high school football athlete. It taught me many things and showed me the wonderful possibilities of the world. It also keep me healthy and fit, helped me socialize with other men and taught me to respect the authority of my elders. This is a lesson definitely missing from Glee.
Well, I am glad to have brought a new perspective to you!
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“You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.”
Everyone in the show is an underdog in a way:
Finn- he might be a popular football player, but he has had this passion for music but was too afraid to show it until he got in. Also he is not the most intellegant person.
Rachel- She is ambitious and has amazing talent, but her personality is a flaw. She never said she was ugly. She actually says in a monologue that she thinks she is attractive, but she is busy trying to reach her dream. Yes, Kurt and Quinn comment on her clothing choice, but who doesn’t comment on everyone’s clothing? She is a great person with a good heart, but she relies too much on her talent to get what she wants. Also the actress that plays her, Lea Michele, is 23, not 30.
Kurt- he is described as the “fashionable soprano”. Well, you already know what his flaw is.
Mercedes, Tina, Artie- They all have their assets and their issues, like disability, social issues, and weight.
The three cheerios and the other two football players (Santana, Brittany, Quinn, Mike, Puck, and Matt) are underdogs too to even think and even join this club, knowing it could be social suicide.
How are the adults underdogs? Let’s see:
Emma (the guidance councelor)- She is a germaphobe and has issues being close to people (especially men). She is also shy and not many of her male co-workers see her as someone who is that datable.
Will- He might be a popular teacher, but stepping up to help this failing club is a great leap of faith and taking a risk. He is against many odds to do it and we see him overcome them by making them succeed.
So by being involved in the arts are you saying that I do not learn anything about respecting elders and being on a team?
I was involved in all branches of my performing arts department while in High School, I can tell you right now the lessons I have learned.
I have learned to be part of a team, that while it is nice at times to be a spotlight, in order to succeed you need to trust those on the journey with you and that all can succeed if you work together. You also learn disipline, espeically learning music, lines, and choreography. In that also RESPECTING YOUR ELDERS. They are there to help you succeed, and in order to help you in doing so, you you have to be respectful. Respect is the BIGGEST LESSON OF ALL. As my mother says “It takes all types of people to make this world go round.” And it’s true. If you walk into the chorus room, you might see just a group of singers. Little did you know that there were star athletes, drama geeks, valedictorian of the Senior class, and just regular average joes, people that might not just fit in. You learn to respect anyone and everyone, no matter who they are, where they are from, and what they believe in.
Also as a note, do you know the training it takes to be in marching band? A WHOLE TON and let me tell you it helps one to become fit and healthy. Also dancing is an AMZING form of exersize.
You also said you have seen SOME of the episodes. So you are saying that you have not seen all of them? Maybe you should bite your tongue and do so. In order to make a full analysis on a certin topic or materical, you need to fully research the topic.
Yes, I understand that this is a guide for parents, but not all parents will agree with you. It depends on the family and the maturity of the children in question, weither they think they can handle the show. I was watching R rated movies and shows like this since I was 7, and I am a straight-edged, responsible, RESPECTFUL, virgin. I have never smoked, I have never drank, and one of my biggest things that I value in life is respect.
Again, I apologize for my negative comments, but I believe this is insulting to anyone who is an underdog and who are involved in the arts.
~Tracy
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I apologise for any typos I may have.
And I also meant “flaw” like it is typed
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Wow. How very forward-thinking of you!
I was in the arts, not sports, in high school. I am a female. I am a lesbian. I graduated with honors and have a bachelors degree. I watched programming as a child that I’m sure you would think was Satan incarnate (i.e. Ren & Stimpy). And guess what? I’m happy, successful, and a Christian.
Are you ok? I fear the shock of such a possibility may have stopped your heart.
And for the record, your comment about how there’s “no alternative to the gay lifestyle presented,” there’s ONE gay student on the show, which means there are 10+ alternatives presented. Guess what? Gay people exist. It’s not a choice. It can’t be “cured.” We’re not going away, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
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@ Alicia…im absolutely astounded that you call yourself a Christian. You CLEARLY
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephen, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephenson, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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I understand sarcasm.
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Uhh…Congrats! Though I never mentioned anything about sarcasm in my post. I just realized that I should express my love for my girlfriend by taking it to the next level
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A show that emphasizes the importance of being comfortable with yourself (meaning both faults and strengths). Evil!
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Oh, and by “Victor Matlin” do you mean “Victor Garber?” If so, he’s an openly gay actor with a long and distinguished career in theatre who has played a spy, lawyers, Liberace, a “lady’s man” actor, a Puritan, an alien, and Jesus.
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“Theatre” is, in fact, the correct spelling. Americans just happened to have butchered it a few centuries ago to make it different from the way the Brits spelled it. English came from England, the English spelling is therefore the correct spelling. American spellings are acceptable alternatives.
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well you were the one to start with lashing out correcting the spelling. therefor you make the statement that his speeling is incorect.
the internet isn’t american it’s international and the english used internationaly is offcially bristish english. he’s still right.
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In the world, being judgmental and self righteous also comes across as egotistical and superior with a tinge of insincerity. Many people who are insecure use these out of a desperate need to put other people down. Sadly, acting like you are the holiest person among the billions of people on earth does not make you sound any better. It is just foolish.
By the way, in case you haven’t noticed, not everyone lives in the U.S, kthx.
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Whilst my FAVOURITE show may not be Glee, I love its use of THEATRE, and how it CENTRES on many different lifestyles. My MUM also likes the show.
I think you should stop ANALYSING things too much. This article seems to suggest that you have some closet homophobic tendencies, and if you don’t want to embrace it, should probably seek some COUNSELLING to help with your bitterness and anger over not finding a nice man to cash your CHEQUES for you.
Also, like others have said, a large percentage of us do not live in the United States. Maybe if you had done some TRAVELLING outside of your country, you would have REALISED this, you ignorant bigot.
Oh, and btw, I’m British and my FAVOURITE COLOUR is blue. I’m also now going to go and unwrap my sandwich from the ALUMINIUM foil that it’s currently in.
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I live in the U.S. and I studied Theatre for 4 years. When referring to the Performing Arts it is called Theatre and when talking about Motion Pictures it is called Theater (Movie Theater).
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From what that person wrote, the best you could come up with was to correct their spelling? Surely you could have done better than that? Then you have the nerve to tell a person what spelling to use? Your in the USA so you use the spelling that you were taught, I am in Australia and therefore will use the English spelling that I and obviously others, were taught.
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For the uninitiated: Glee is a satirical comedy about high school glee clubs as a competitive sport. Although I suppose those under 30 might tune in, the target audience is clearly much older. The stereotypes are all extreme – including the gay stereotyped characters. So extreme that they would be offensive in any other context. The “good kids” are stereotypically super-good; to the point that the main male character (super-good virgin Finn) gets tricked into accepting responsibility for an immaculate-conception pregnancy that supposedly happened because they were making out (but not having sex) in a hot tub. Yes, it is that silly and over-the-top. (His ‘best friend’ is the true father)
For those of you who don’t get it: Stephenson Billings is a Phil Hendry style performance artist. The Golden Girls is a dead giveaway. The supposition that any unmarried man ever watched Golden Girls is laughable – let alone the notion that it could turn you gay. Heck, very few people under the age of 40 watched that show, let alone teenagers.
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1) Glee is a television show. There are going to be adult themes such as teenage pregnancy and homosexuality because guess what? It happens in real life! You’re complaining about “adult themes and situations” and “a surprising number of mature scenarios” because guess what? It’s high school. The writers know that high school isn’t a fantasyland as you put it. Also, you’re contradicting yourself. First, you complain that there is a TV show with too many adult themes and situations. Then, you go onto say that it’s not realistic because there isn’t any “gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” Although that in itself is a contradiction (because according to you, if the show DID have gun violence, etc., it would be too unholy for broadcast, so why are you complaining?), I must also say that you are wrong! Sexting and drug dealing have both occurred on the show. You wanna know why? It’s a show about a high school. It’s REAL.
2) “The ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.” You think Glee poses SEVERE ethical and social RISKS? Glee is nowhere near “severe.” You want to see severe network broadcast? Try Harper’s Island last spring (and although that in itself was severe, it was a beautiful story, VERY worthy of broadcast).
3) “Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?” First of all: The characters of Glee are nowhere near a fantasyland of happy. They’re going through real world issues such as pregnancy. But when they sing, they’re happy. Because they’re a part of something. It makes the problems go away for the time being. But no, it’s not a fantasyland of happy. Second of all, get your facts straight! The closest thing we’ve gotten to “football players in the locker rooms dropping their shorts” has been one character singing in a shower, washing himself with soap. And FYI? All we saw was his chest. Like that’s so explicit? Seriously. There’s been worse on network television. Stop being a pansy and get used to the fact that not everyone is a far-right-wing conservative. Also, didn’t it ever occur to you that maybe the writers were trying to appeal to the heterosexual female audience as well as the homosexual male audience? Stop being so closed-minded.
3) “From pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation.” Oh my goodness. While it’s a TV show, did you ever think that maybe the writers are trying to make it look somewhat real? If every single member of the Glee club is a wholesome left-wing Christian, how realistic is that? Pre-marital sex: One time, it wasn’t even shown. The closest you’ve gotten to that is making out. Deal with it, they’re high school students. Drug use: Not on screen. Adultery: For your information, adultery was never committed. The closest to that was a man kissing another woman AFTER he left his wife. Abortion: The writers couldn’t even say the WORD abortion, let alone make it a primary theme of the show. The closest you’ve gotten to that was “Are you gonna–?” and “No, I’m keeping it.” Premature ejaculation: They’re high school jocks, what else do you expect them to talk about at the Celibacy Club? Explicit homosexual experimentation: NOT EVEN CLOSE! Get your facts straight! Perhaps the closest we’ve gotten to that is a guy coming out to his dad. Get. Your. Facts. Straight.
4) “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. They’ve clearly been coached.” That’s the whole point. It’s a television show about a Glee club, not a church. And yes, they have been coached. They even refer to the teacher in the show as a vocal coach. Get your facts together and think logically.
5)”But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.” Will you seriously stop contradicting yourself? According to you, the plot of the show is too explicit, so stop complaining that it’s being supposedly “dragged down!” Also, watching a television show does not change a person. Glee does not make someone gay or artsy or musical or athletic. Having fun in the arts is also NOT a bad thing! If you’re good at it (or even if you like what you’re doing, which in high school, is fine), go ahead. If you like it, then go ahead. Seriously. Athletics aren’t everything. What is so wrong about the arts? You are SUCH a closed-minded hypocrite and bigot.
6) “Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” First of all, how does one gay character make an entire nation gay? Second of all: ALL American citizens have rights, not just the “righteous” and marriage still is beautiful if two people love each other. Love has no standards. Love is not about race or gender or religion or any social status. And you’re going to sit there and say that Chris Colfer is the face of “our future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” Are you an idiot? Why do you assume that homosexuals are perverts? Have you heard the way some straight men talk about women? And really? TERRORIST? Once again, I ask, are you an idiot?
7) “Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”” The writers of Glee understand that homosexuality is not a disease and make Kurt comfortable with himself which is a good thing to promote. Do you want teenagers struggling with sexuality to not be comfortable with themselves, confusing them even more?
9) Clearly you have not watched the show. Writing a review of a show you have not watched is offensive and your bigotry astounds me. I’m pretty sure God doesn’t appreciate your hate to ANYONE who is different. God would want you to be accepting, something you left-winged conservatives CLEARLY aren’t good at.
I’m so angry. And I want to write more. But honestly I’m going to stop, because just from your post I can tell you’re going to read this while saying “faggots can burn in hell.” How Christian does THAT sound?
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Sorry, made a few typos there. And another thing: Kevin McHale (the actor who plays Artie) is NOT lipsyncing. He is talented, and if you actually cared to research anything before blindly posting this article, you would know that he used to be in a boy band.
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1) It’s ludicrous to claim that simply because Glee is a tv show, it must contain adult themes. Would you say this about Bugs Bunny or the Benji? Of course not. Your argument is contrived. Frankly, there is far too much homosexuality on tv today. Kids watching will think it’s just fun and normal to jump in the sack with some other high school jock and rub around. No so fast! This is very damaging to children.
2) I have no seen the show you mentioned, but I happen to write about many aspects of American culture, including other tv shows. I suggest you do your research on my journalism before making outrageous demands.
3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.
4) Your personal opinion!
5) As I have proven time and again, television has a dangerously outsized influence on young people today. Please get YOUR facts “straight”!
6) So you’re really a gay “marriage” proponent? That explains a lot.
Okay, that’s enough for now. I hope this helps you see some of the serious challenges of this show Kevin. Best of luck to you!
Stephenson Billings, Investigative Journalist
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Kudos Kevin. What you said was spot on. Try finding a drama with a teen audience that doesn’t touch on the topics of sex, teen pregnancy, homosexuality etc.
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it’s happened…it’s finally happened. he’s lost every single of his mabels…for the 1000th time
seriously?
“4) Your personal opinion!”
really? he stated that it’s a musical and thats just an openion? allright in my openion the bible is cook book with 22 great valentines dinner recipies….
what the fuck are you smokeing? the show is a musical show and musical shows involve music numbers. that is not openion that is fact.
“3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.”
that kind of delusions can be asign of mental isues. maybe you should go see a doctor and say you see gay scences in a tv show that does not contain them. or maybe you “acidently” hit the remote and found your gay porn channel?
about the realism of the show half the time you complain it’s unrealistic the other half you complain that kids should not be presented for that kind of stuff….since it’s far too realistic. will you fucking make up your mind?
you dodge the questions and arguments by saying you’re wrong i’m right LALALALALALA!!!!! it’s pathetic. GROW UP!!!!
also great investigive journalist you keep posting incorrect facts. REPEATEDLY!
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first I researched your “Journalism on Google and .. there is no “journalism of you Billings
secon The number 3 from Jazze I think its the second choice he found Gay Porn channel
anyway stop pretending to be a Journalist an editorialist Maybe but thats all
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First of all, Bugs Bunny is full of adult themes and references. It’s very violent, characters are often stripped of their clothing, the animators hide naked/partially naked images of women in the reel and it’s all-around disturbing. In one particularly memorable scene Bugs actually dresses up like a woman and rubs Elmer’s face in his breasts, which I find humorous but for some reason that sort of thing bothers you. They are constantly referencing drugs and things like public execution and cannibalism. Just because it is animated does not mean it is appropriate.
I hated the show as a child but now that I am grown I have learned to appreciate it for its artistry and originality.
Second of all, Glee is not a kids show. Even if it was, it would only teach kids how to deal with adult situations in a responsible and level-headed manner. I had more “adult” experiences in middle school and high school than I’ve ever had after graduation.
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What do you have against gay marriage? Can you answer me without quoting the bible??
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i totally disagree that bugs bunny is an example of wholesome tv from times gone by. he was a cross dresser and attempted to seduce elmer fudd repeatedly. this is by no means tv suitable for teenagers or children.
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Also, your description of the characters could not be more completely stereotypical. I personally know many of these people who fit this description in my school.
Glee has taught me that it’s okay to be different. I am involved in the arts in my school and I know that I will always have that close group of friends to support me.
I hope you have a nice conversation with God when he asks you why you’re hateful.
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Parents Council has this review so I agree its something parents need to be cocerned about.
Parents should be aware that this is an edgy teen show filled with adult themes. Simulated sex scenes are usually left to the adults on the show, but sexual situations between the teens are dealt in frank and explicit ways. For instance, there is a running joke that the main jock love-interest, Finn, has a problem with premature ejaculation. In fact, he is lead to believe that he impregnated his girlfriend this way when they were making out in a hot tub. She happens to be the president of the celibacy club who, unbeknownst to Finn, has slept with his best friend. There are also occasional veiled references to. One boy has recently come out of the closet and there are many homophobic jokes made at his expense. Language is relatively tame. Words like “hell,” “crap” and “damn” are occasionally used. Violence is not a problem for the program.
Glee is not recommended for viewers under age 16.
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This article is one of the most hater and homophofic things i have read in my whole life, you even tagged the characters: Jewish Rachel, Gay Kurt!!
why God, the Bible and Jesus are always excuses for hating people?? stop it!! I think the love of God is bigger than prejudices, and Glee is a great show.
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Why do you nutso people all think I hate the Jews? You have zero evidence of this. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating them!
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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You don’t hate Jews, you just hate the Gays. Being Gay is not a choice or something that can be cured. You are born gay or you are born straight. As a gay man I find it completely idiotic that you think we can be cured or we choose to be gay. Because I would obviously choose to be a person who does not have the same rights as everyone else and is looked upon like he has a disease. This is who I am I can not control who I love or who I am attracted. I applaud Glee for showing young Gay teens it is okay to be who are and not hide. I wish I would of had that when I was growing up and maybe I would of been alot happier during my teen years. God would not want this kind of hate you are spewing spread!!!
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Could we please retire calling black women ’sassy’?
Homophobia aside, you really are just reaching for anything to bash Glee about. Kurt’s clothes? Really? They’re too colorful, eh?
The show preaches acceptance. That’s all. And if you honestly think that people are stupid enough to ‘go gay’ because of Kurt then, well, I guess you should get your rainbow suspenders ready.
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Do you really think God likes what you’re doing? Just because you call yourself a Christian doesn’t give you the right to be close-minded or ignorant, even if it is passionately so. You need to question yourself, sir. I don’t know why you’ve decided it’s good and necessary to be a straight, young, straight, white jock who can sing and dance impeccably. You’re spreading blasphemy, and as long as you decide to quote archaic bible verses and close yourself off to the modern world you will continue to mislead yourself and anyone who looks to you for guidance. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but he did mention love, you should look into it.
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Listen, you may enjoy this show and think it’s a lot of fun but when you’re a parent a very different set of circumstances come into play. YOU are responsible for your child. YOU have a responsibility to protect them, to educate them, to led them to grow up with a moral foundation so they can become the very best people they can be. As an adult, you have to make tough choices. You cannot indulge in every fun thing that comes down the pipe. You might not like it, but it’s the truth. Parents have to be on the lookout for negative influences, like drugs and sex and if that’s is what’s being sold in a tv show, you have to shield your young children from that.
Can you honestly look me in the eye and say that Glee is appropriate for kids?
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well maybe thats why it’s not meant for small kids what so ever. if a 8 year old is watching this and being “damaged” from it then yes the parents fucked up.
but the show is meant for a much older audience anyway. can you say teenagers? shielding them from the world won’t help your kids. it’s actually proven to be the most harmful thing you can do since they’ll be unable to br a part of it.
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Jazze, you’re right; we can’t skirt around issues or sugar-coat things. We need to teach our children about sex and all of those uncomfortable topics. Unfortunately, kids in high school do have sex. Kids in middle school do have sex. Ten years ago, 75% of girls under the age of 14 had lost their virginity. You may think it is an adult topic, but trust me, these kids already know about it. The longer we wait to include them in the conversation, the more likely they are to discover it the hard way. I can’t think of any parent who would want their child to have sex by accident for the first time because they didn’t understand what was happening in their own bodies, and they didn’t know where the “do not cross” lines were. I think most parents would rather teach their child about sex.
I’ll never forget a conversation with a coworker – we were talking about how old we were when certain life milestones occurred – first boyfriend, first kiss, “the talk”… And she looked at me and said “I never had the talk. I wish my mom had, though. If she had, I wouldn’t have had sex at 14. I had no idea what I was doing, or what was happening. She hid it from me my entire life, and then there it was! And I did it. And I regretted it. But I didn’t know that’s where it was going until it was too late. I had no idea. She shouldn’t have hid it from me.”
Censorship doesn’t work. It’s like Communism – it sounds really good on paper, but is just destructive in practice.
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First of all, abortion has never been mentioned on the show. Quinn, from the outset, has every entention of giving birth to her daughter.
As for homosexual experimentation… Kurt has never even been kissed. There is no rampant male sex desires involved. No locker room orgies are occuring. In fact, mose of the football team proves to be thoroughly homophobic since they start spreading rumors that Finn is gay after he joins Glee…
And basically you’re doing the same thing. Saying that watching Glee will make you gay… isn’t that going a little (a lot) too far?
As for the musical numbers, how can there be too many? The music is the whole point of the show. You confuse me.
As for a “false impression” about talent and success, you apparently have something against the arts. The arts are a great way for kids to express themselves, but just like in Glee, people feel restricted by cliques and stereotypes.
And the reason that athletics will not contribute to any scholarships for the kids of Mckinley High School is because their sports teams are pretty much awful… Just watch episode 4. Since you clearly haven’t seen all (if any) of the actual episodes.
As for your comments on characterization…
Sue Sylvestor is genius. DO NOT DEFY OR SHE’LL PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE.
Kevin Mchale (the actor who plays Artie) has an absolutely amazing voice. I don’t know what you’ve been listening to… And really? A sidekick or a funny phrase? That’s all it takes for good characterization in your eyes? Well, I suppose that’s not all. You also require that all male characters reflect the supreme ideals of masculinity. Because otherwise, watching it -gasp- turns you gay!!
And really… do you really think that Kurt’s fashion is that much of a threat to your perfect ideal of masculinity? You say it like buying clothes is some kind of awful drug…
Can you really blame Will for leaving his wife? She lied to him about being pregnant. For several months. So that automatically makes him an adulterer when he leaves her? Really?
Now I’m really, really hoping that this article is some kind of horrid joke, but that unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case… I feel sorry for you and your judgmental and narrow-minded point of view.
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I just have a few objective points to correct in your research, since, as any sort of journalist, I think it’s safe to assume you’d want factual information.
Lea Michele is actually 23 years old, born August 29, 1986. Her character, Rachel Berry, is actually quite believable for some people. Many beautiful, talented girls are overlooked in High Schools and even become the subject of animosity from other girls. Girls in High School are very competitive amongst themselves and engage in these kinds of cutthroat activities frequently. Rachel is one of the unfortunate victims of this. She’s beautiful, but her personality frightens people away.
What we see on TV is all lip-synced over pre-recorded performances. This is because optimal sound quality is desired and some real-life settings as well as stage sets do not provide proper acoustics for a live vocal performance. As a result, singers pre-record the given songs and lip-sync them in front of the camera. The actor who plays Artie is no exception to this rule, but that’s most definitely his own voice in the cast recordings (you can reference his casting tape, available on Glee’s official website).
I would also like to make note that many of the characters are so extreme because the plot of this show occurs in a heightened reality, which also encompasses the complex choreography and difficult singing featured in this show. Most individuals use context to determine that all aspects of the program and its characters are very obviously exaggerated.
Many films on the same level of heightened reality portray young individuals who beat realistically impossible odds to succeed in athletics. Many of these films are specifically intended for much younger audiences. I’m curious as to whether or not you would direct a consistent criticism toward these productions as well.
On the issue of content, Glee has a “TVPG” rating by The TV Parental Guidelines’ standards. That means that it may contain content unsuitable for younger individuals, including the possibility of “some suggestive dialogue (D), infrequent coarse language (L), some sexual situations (S), or moderate violence (V)” (quoted directly from the website), implying that parents (with whom the responsibility for an adolescent actually lies), should be present for the viewing of this show with their child.
Also, I understand that your article is written from a very personal and religious perspective, but I’m a little curious as to why you made the point of emphasizing Rachel’s culture and ethnicity in the passage about the characters, but not for others like Mercedes. I understand that you were choosing identifying features, but why is it that her Jewish descent was your identifier for her when there are so many other prominent features of the character. Being that your article is very negative as a whole and that other identifying features you chose were negative, is it corect to venture that you have something against her Jewish descent?
And, also, in response to a comment left earlier, “theatre” was the correct spelling in that context. The word spelled “theater” refers to a building, while the spelling “theatre” refers to the dramatic art form.
I hope this has been informative.
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Thanks for arguing facts in a lose-lose situation. It’s one thing to debate the show’s message, but he didn’t even bother to check the lead’s age! Although, he did go out of the way to insult her.
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Dear Kite:
The age of that one actress is irregardless to my broader point that this show has a very negative influence on children. Frankly, she is made up to look like she’s 30 with her mature clothes and makeup. She does not look anything like a high school student! Her specific age is not at issue, it’s the age she appears to be on screen. And I still stand by my assertion that she looks 30. You people seem to be all obsessed about that, as if it disproves the logic of my entire article. It does not.
As for the other technical aspects of the show, I must say you know your lingo. Do you work in tv? For Glee perhaps? It wouldn’t surprise me. I suggest you come clean about your allegiance here, your bias is not actually appropriate We don’t need propaganda from Glee production insiders. i am perfectly willing to engage with you on an honest discussion of the show but I must say your ulterior motives concern me.
Moving on, the whole question of “heightened reality” and great sound quality is no excuse for a show to be so unrealistic if it is promoting a very liberal, pro-homosexual agenda. I could write a script with conservative and Christian values and have everyone be millionaires with 10 beautiful children and Jeb Bush as President. Would this not be criticized for it’s false reality? Of course it would. Would it inappropriate as a political promotion tool for a radical lifestyle choice? Most certainly. The same should be said of Glee. Y
ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!
In addition, “theatre” does not refer to “the dramatic art form” as you say. It’s simply not the correct American spelling. It’s an arty affectation, something show off way of saying you’re better or smarter than the rest of Americans. Well, you’re not. We’re all in the same boat here.
I pray this has been enlightening.
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“ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!”
so when i start saying the bible makes people retardet that’s what? fair critizing? no it’s fucking not.
also ofcourse you’re entiteled to your openion you can hate the show as much you like. that just doesn’t make it bad. the article is extreamly subjective and even includes you review of scenes you imagined(or dreamt?)
we are not here to protect the show. we are here to protect common sense.
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I was going to stay out of this until I saw the word “irregardless.” The word is REGARDLESS. There is no “ir” in the beginning of it. How dare you criticize other people’s CORRECT spelling of the word “theatre,” yet you fail so horribly at using the English language correctly? Have you ever taken an English course? I vaguely remember being taught how to spell “regardless” in the third grade. It may have been fourth.
I’m not even going to begin to comment on the rest of this jargon. I, very much like yourself, cannot truthfully say that I have seen enough “Glee” episodes to make a correct judgement.
Beyond the severe grammatical and typographical errors, I’m pretty sure 90% of your “article” is libelous. You are accusing innocent people of terrible things (corrupting young minds, et cetera) with absolutely no proof other than your own delusional thoughts. Surely they covered this in your journalism courses, if you’ve ever set foot in one.
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1) Irregardless is improper. Do you have an editor? I suggest finding someone new.
2)Watching t.v. is not investigative journalism. Where are your interview with the cast and crew? How about the writers or network producers?
3) It’s clear from these posts than being a Christian means picking and choosing what you want to believe. Love thy neighbor, not if thy neighbor is gay, has premarital sex, or struggles with an real life issue. I’m sure Jesus would feel the same way about this show.
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*Victor Matlin.. I actually only need to touch upon this topic briefly to prove my point.. The actor’s name who plays Will Schuster’s father is Victor GARBER. He appears in one episode and plays a character who is INSPIRED by his son, a teacher, who touches the lives of his students.
*”Jewish Rachel”.. is NOT 30. Lea Michele is 23 and has had more success in her 23 years of life than the majority of the United States. Plus, she’s not playing like she’s ugly.. she’s playing a role that is true in many high schools across the country. And Ryan Murphy created a fantastic, honest female character in Rachel.
*”Artie, Wheelchair”.. yes, Jesus would be SUPER proud of you to denote a handicapped character simply by the fact that he uses a wheelchair. Kevin McHale is INSANELY talented and does in fact sing very well. He performed in a successful band, Not Like Them.
Just a few examples of the character corrections.
One of my favorite quotes of the article: “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers.” –You do realize this show is about a glee club, right? A glee club practices and performs musical numbers. Frequently.
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century.” — The creators are informing the young audience that there are other ways to get scholarships than by sports alone. And honestly, a mediocre football player is a dime a dozen and will likely not receive a scholarship. There ARE other scholarship options aside from sports. Like, what do you know it, performing arts.
Another personal favorite: “…should be removed from broadcast.” –Obviously FOX and the Hollywood Foreign Press (who award the Golden Globes, just in case you aren’t sure of what that is.. taking into consideration your lack of research) don’t think so. Thankfully.
“They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true.” –I am SO glad I am not your child. I would hate to see how you encourage people.
On a side note.. The stage used is very realistic. I went to a public high school that had an incredible stage very similar to the one seen in Glee (complete with lights), 2 gyms, 2 pools, a music wing, a 4 story field house, brand new stadium, football/soccer field, track, baseball field and individual practice fields for each sport AND marching band.
As a *practicing* Catholic, Republican and religious Glee watcher, I was very disappointed in the partiality of this article. Jesus is a loving and forgiving God. And I’m sure he forgives all the close-minded people for their prejudices.
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Katherine, I find the tone of your comment entirely unprofessional and crude. You and I may disagree on certain points about this show, but as I have stated before, I stand by my assertion that it is inappropriate for children of all ages. I am sorry this outrages you, but I suggest that maybe you take a deeper look at yourself and ask why you need and depend on a tv show so much. It may be that you’re seeking solace from reality. But this gets back to my larger point– a tv show shouldn’t become your reality. There is much more out there in the world than the characters on some made up tv drama. You have your whole life to live and being so attached and obsessed with each and every nuance of these fake people’s lives in truly unhealthy.
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You’re calling ME unprofessional because I corrected YOU, the author of this, on your “facts”?? The ONLY thing that you and I agree on is the fact that this show is not appropriate for children of ALL ages – hence why it’s on at 9pm and not 6. Obviously I wouldn’t sit down with a 7 year old and have them watch Glee with me. The show IS appropriate for children over 14 considering it is a show in a high school and that is the average age of freshmen in high school.
And please do not attempt to be a personal psychologist and tell me why I choose to watch Glee. Television is entertainment. I do not need OR depend on Glee. I am not attached to OR obsessed with the characters in the show. I felt the need to reply to this article because many of the “facts” you stated were FALSE. If you’re going to write an article based on your personal views, that’s fine. Knock yourself out. But do not publish your views and call them fact. There is nothing unhealthy about that.
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I think “Victor Matlin” was the father’s name in the movie “Beetlejuice”. Clearly this is more evidence of demonic influences at work.
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The majority of the individuals here have expressed my beliefs, but I would like to mention: this show airs at 9pm. If parents were really concerned about their children, they wouldn’t let them be up late enough to even watch the show.
Not to mention I can point out quite of few “facts” you stated tha are just wrong.
“Jewish Rachel” is not 30. She’s 23 as are the majority of the actors who play the students. They cannot cast real-life 14-18 year olds very easily because there are laws that prohibit underage individuals to work so many hours. The show it hard work, and involves a lot of hours. Everyone in the cast is over 18 for a reason.
Victor Matlin? Really??? Try Victor Garber.
There have been NO sex scenes whatsoever. Seriously, have you watched the show at all?
Also – the “coaching” and lip-synching? They’re all professionals. In fact, at least three of the actors have starred in very successful Broadway shows. Artie Lip-synching is FALSE. Everyone on the show sings. Thing are pre-recorded by the actors in a studio and yes, they lip-synch when they film that’s just they process of filming. It would happen no matter what show it is. If you don’ like their acting, that’s a personal opinion that shouldn’t affect what you think of the show’s moral values.
You say you’re an investigative journalist, but that would require thoroughly investigating you story before coming to conclusions.
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Lex, I have addressed many of your claims in my earlier statements. I really think you’re off base and a little too concerned for this fantasy show. As for actors under 18 being unable to work in tv, that is just a laughable and wrong point. Have you never watched anything else on tv? Full House, Cosby Show, The Brady Bunch? There were plenty of children acting each week on all of them. This brings me to another point–I really have to onder how old you are. Should a grown man really become so obsessed with a tv show about young and effeminate boys? I don’t think it’s appropriate.
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Those shows are much older; current legislation protection child labor wasn’t as strictly enforced, if it even existed yet. Also, they’re situation comedies, not musicals. A musical takes much more time to rehearse, because there’s so much more to the performance. It’s singing and dancing in addition to the acting. A minor couldn’t possibly put in the necessary hours of rehearsal for a weekly show without breaking the laws.
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I wasn’t going to dignify this with a response, however I just wanted to let you know how hilarious this is.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee” – the girl had sex ONE time, hardly makes her a “slut” or qualifies her as a Blanche Deveraux. Besides, the admittedly promiscuous character and cougar hunter Puck (the attractive, shirtless fellow at the top) didn’t even get a mention as being a slut, is that because he is a guy? Fair is fair.
There is ONE thing I do agree with you on…
“Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often?” Yeah, the shorts are slightly disturbing.
Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
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Hello Marie,
From what I understand, the female Quinn has sex with various men on the show including the lead football player in a hot tub and another man with a mohawk. Because of her sex partners, she is unsure who the father is when she gets pregnant (see the episode “Preggers”). Do you really find this to be an appropriate character for a show aimed at teens? She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular, yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant. I honestly don’t think there’s anything you can admire in a character like that.
Marie, let me also take a little time to address your personal obsession with this tv show. It may seem like a great place to spend your emotional time, but what ultimately does it contribute to your life? Have you ever chosen spending time with “Glee” over spending time with your friends and family? This is a question often asked of alcoholics. I think a bit of soul searching may be in order here. I truly believe you are too immersed in a false belief system.
Best of luck my friend!
Stephenson
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Quinn had sex once with Puck (the man with the mohawk). She never had sex with Finn. They made out in the hot tub. Obviously you cannot get pregnant merely by making out, but that’s the funny part about Finn thinking the baby is his. Quinn is not supposed to be a role model in the early episodes of the show. She is the mean cheerleader that picks on people because they are different – much like you are doing with the characters in your article. Quinn becomes very admirable when she stands up to the true villain of the show, Sue Sylvestor, later on in the season AND flat out says in the episode “Preggers” that she is not having an abortion. She chose life. Once again, a few minutes of RESEARCH could have informed you of all of that.
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“From what I understand” is your problem here. You’ve written an entire “investigative” article, and yet you are not well-informed. People are upset because you presented false information, and exaggerated the few nuggets of truth to serve your purpose. Perhaps if you were accurate in your summary of the program, people would be more accepting of your commentary.
Oh, and also if you didn’t come across like a hateful bigot.
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“She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular,”
Popular cheerleaders are not appropriate role models for young girls. In my entire high school career and my two years of college, I have never met a smart cheerleader. Long story short: cheerleaders are sluts. They slather on the makeup so that they practically look like Bozo the Clown, wear skimpy clothing, and can’t find India on a map. Role models for young and teenage girls should be pretty yet modest, smart yet sociable, generous, caring, and have big aspirations for the future.
“yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant.”
Remember dude, we’re talking about cheerleaders. I’ll bet that at least 98% of cheerleaders are sexually active, and probably over 50% of them don’t use protection. Because they’re airheads.
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Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population. Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere. Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success. But they’re also human beings with heart and soul! Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble. I support cheerleading as a sport 200%. It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves. I know it seems like some ancient marriage preparation ritual so that these girls can pair off with the boys on the football team, but so what? Maybe they’re the right types of girls to marry great football stars. Please don’t let your intense personal bias cloud your better judgement. You should honestly know better.
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“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
But, Stevie, you seem to think that just because you’ve never come out of the closet is reason enough to slander the entire population of homosexuals…
Also, you really oughtta watch “But I’m a Cheerleader!” I think that movie would be right up your alley…
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“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a feminist. Your accusing me of simply being jealous of cheerleaders because I wanted to be one but wasn’t good enough is insulting to everything that I stand for. I never wanted to be a cheerleader because they are an insult to the female gender. Not only are they slutty, brainless girls, but they are essentially buying into the “gender role” that females should be on the sidelines cheering the males on. They spend more time applying their makeup, giving blowjobs, and practicing their valley girl accents than they do studying.
“Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere.”
Wait, cheerleaders are the embodiment of young boys?
“Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success.”
I couldn’t give a damn about “social success”. Frankly, the last thing that I’ve ever wanted is to be popular. All I need in life is my family, my cats, and a couple of friends who I share common interests with.
“But they’re also human beings with heart and soul!”
No, they’re not. They’re vain, selfish people who think that the world revolves around them. They’re the type of girls who are last to arrive at the train station, yet have to be the first ones on the train so they can get a seat. They’re the types of girls who won’t give up their seat to an elderly or disabled person. They’re the types of girls who make comments behind other girls’ backs. They’re the types of girls who are repulsed by homeless people. They’re the types of girls who hear the word “Iraq”, and say “Iraq, what’s that?” They’re the types of girls who would rather watch “The Hills” than the news. They’re the types of girls who won’t vote because they don’t care. Long story short: I hate cheerleaders because they’re vain, slutty, and apathetic.
“Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble.”
Guess what? There are lots of things in this world that are more important than sports. On a list of the most important things in this world, I’d put sports at, say, #10,000. Besides, what exactly is noble or humble about a group of scantily clad girls gyrating their hips on the sidelines of a football field?
“It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves.”
Perfect themselves in what, the art of being groomed to be a teenage stay-at-home-mom with no college education and “Valleygirl” as a second language?
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I must admit, while most cheerleaders I have met were exactly the kind of girls Claire has described, I have known two I would consider as role models. Both quit cheerleading to focus on their studies, and got scholarships based on their amazing academic performance. It miraculously improved once they gave up prancing around in those tiny skirts. Neither one, however, gave up their art classes. Those girls, I would consider role models. They understood what was important, and gave up the silly pasttime of cheerleading.
And just because you couldn’t find a girl who wasn’t a complete airhead to date you, Billings, doesn’t mean you can lie to the rest of us about what wonderful women cheerleaders are. WE won’t buy into such nonsense.
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Ok First of all, Lea Michelle (Rachel) is 22 or 23, not 30. And, you complain that there are too many musical numbers? WTH it’s a show ABOUT show choir. The musical numbers do not subtract from the plot–they drive it forward. You can’t have a show about a high school show choir with no musical numbers. You need to get your head out of your ass, admit you’re gay, and go get fucked.
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Please, stop spreading your lies and prejudices and DO YOUR RESEARCH before deciding to write an article like this.
“The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
Most teachers are actually very much like Will in schools today. Why? Because they actually CARE ABOUT THE STUDENTS. They want to see them succeed, they encourage them and are generally nice people. Secondly, wouldn’t you just be writing a worse article if Glee included gun violence? It seems your view of what a high school is like comes only from the media, who lead you to believe every teenager is a psychopath who will glass you or turn a knife on you. NOT true.
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance.”
Glee is a MUSICAL. Hence, the many music performances. The boys and girls of Glee can sing, yes. Perhaps that’s why they joined the choir?
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton.”
They never, ever said that on the show. I believe in this you are referring to a talk Will gave Finn, in which he stated that just one extra-curricular activity does not get you into college, but two might do just that.
“Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires.”
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice. It’s something you are born with and you can change your sexual orientation just as much as you can your skin colour. You are prejudiced against the show because it has a gay character. Teaching kids to shun certain people and look down on them…what is that teaching them about life in general? Hate and disrespect that which you don’t understand?
“If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be?”
One in which everybody is accepted for who they are?
“Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.”
Lea Michele is not 30. She’s in her early twenties. Also, Ryan Murphy is not gay. It’s statements like these that show how unprofessional and unbelievable this article truly is.
“Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.”
Kevin McHale was in a boy band before Glee. You can Google them if you like. You don’t believe he sings…is that because he’s a high school ‘nerd’ in a wheelchair? THAT is hypocritical.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.”
Really, how many episodes of this show did you actually watch? Quinn is a “slutty cheerleader” for the first five episodes, but then she sees how the members of Glee really care for her and she becomes an extremely nice person.
“Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.”
If you’re going to complain about the outfits, you really should have picked on Gossip Girl instead, which uses the show to showcase expensive clothing. The writers of the show cannot ‘force’ him to do anything the actor does not wish to do, though since the actor is gay himself I’m sure he wouldn’t have absurd prejudices like yours.
“Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.”
Excuse me? Neither Will, nor Matthew Morrison, are gay. What the HECK makes you think that?! He has a wife and a crush on the school’s guidance councillor!
I hope next time you accuse a show of corrupting a generation you’ll at least take the liberty to RESEARCH to cover up your clear lack of knowledge about what you’re writing about. Actually, I think the world would be a better place if you never wrote anything else like this. Period.
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this article is pure trash. great job, have you even thought of writing tabloids? you’d be fantastic.
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I’m 14 and my sis is 11 and we absolutely LOVE the show, so do my parents and even my very-christian Aunty. Personally I think your wrong on so many levels it’s not funny and it’s people like YOU who think their like another messiah or something.
Here in Australia Glee is rated PG and I’m pretty sure its around there in America, They have never sworn once, never did they mention Abortion and never have they given the message that “Cuz Kurt is Gay we want to make everyone gay”
The reason they made Kurt gay was because Glee is about being accepted for who they are and when Kurt came out to his dad he was accepted like every parent should accept their kid for who they are. I could see you throwing your kid out for being gay cuz u think its “evil” or wateva. Disowning a child for something that they can’t control or that is part of them is ridiculous.
Lea is not 30 she is 23, and what did you put “Jewish Rachel” because you hate Jews? (your also probably one of those people that think the holocaust was a good thing -.- )
“Artie, Wheelchair” does not lip-sync, his voice is genuine and he is a very talented person.
“Slutty Quinn” i have no idea where your reference is from but Quinn is defiantly not a slut and if i were you i would go look up the definition of slut again.
And calling Kurt a terrorist is just stupid. I have no idea where you got the impression of that.
Again, the concept of Glee is for kids to be themselves and accept eachother for who they are, not what they looking like, their sexuality, if they like music ect. As the bible says “Love thy neighbor”
And i think the concept of you in the world is to spread lies and make up crap about perfectly good shows. Your a sad excuse for a human being and a very sad excuse for a Christian. Get a Life.
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You seem awfully young to be watching an adult show at 9pm. This does concern me. It also concerns me that you’re reading a Christian website with information aimed at parents. Your other points– well, clearly you’re just repeating what other angry commenters have said.
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Wow, that wasn’t even aimed at me and I feel patronized.
Yeah, kid. Be quiet; the grown-ups are talking.
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So you also admit that this is an adult show. You admit that this show is not aimed toward children.
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Solution: If Glee offends you, don’t watch it. If you decide not to watch it, don’t judge it and keep your negative thoughts to yourself.
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Rachel is Jewish, is this not correct? I don’t understand why you people are all up in arms about that. Yes, she is Jewish! They say that on the show and make her out to live the life of a Jewish-American girl. “Jewish” is not an epithet. It is not a “bad” word. It’s a ethnic descriptor. Honestly, you people are trying to create controversy where none exists.
Furthermore, most of the people commenting on this article are NOT PARENTS. You’re mostly young, some still children. I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things. Again, this article is really meant for your PARENTS so they can make important decisions concerning your lives. Parenting is not easy and contains many, many responsibilities. If you disagree so strongly, you might want to send a link to this article to your parents so you as a family can have an honest discussion of television content and your watching habits. It really will help you guys figure things out.
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Billings, it scares me to think anyone allows you near their children, or that you have any of your own.
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“I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things.”
Now THAT is offensive. You, sir, are stereotypical and probably the only real interaction you have with the world is via the Internet and watching the news. Sure, I’m a child. Doesn’t mean I like beer or would ever drink if the opportunity was presented.
And another thing: The only response you have to everybody’s comments are that they are “obsessed” with Glee by correcting your false statements. Clearly, you’re pretty “obsessed” too, if you have nothing better to do than write an online article bashing a wonderful TV show, one that won a Golden Globe.
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Oh and I’ll have you know? My mom works at a church as a Children’s Ministry Assistant Director and is perfectly fine with me watching Glee. She even sometimes watches it with me!
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Kids like chocolate and beer…? I do admit that chocolate is absolutely delicious, but not all teenagers are rebels who go out and get drunk every night. I can truthfully say that I have never had so much as a sip of alcohol before. And yet I watch Glee. It hasn’t corrupted me and turned me into a sex driven maniac or alcoholic or drug user. Though you don’t seem to be able to comprehend it, some people are actually responsible.
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I am a parent, sir. I have three beautiful children, two of which are already in college.
I showed this article to many of my friends, all parents. We had a good laugh. Many of them commented on this. Most of them, in fact. We’ve been referencing it for a couple of days now. It’s become an inside joke.
Our children are brilliant, well-educated professionals. We are all devout Christians. Sometimes I watch Glee with my daughter who is still in high school. We have good conversations and we love the music.
My sons are into sports and are also amazing artists. I have a nephew who is gay.
I love this show because it teaches children responsibility and is very realistic at times.
Also, it’s very aesthetic and I love it.
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Mr Billings
Forgive my ignorance (y’know like that tolerant god you listen to), but surely being jewish isn’t an “ethnic descriptor”. I mean, where is “Jewland”, “Jewtopia”, etc. I pray to your imaginary friend, sorry, your god, that I never get sent to “Christianland” or “Christiania”. I think it would be worse than France!I would have thought it more a “religious descriptor”. I only hope that you, as a journalist that investigates this kind of stuff before you write it would know.
And as for all the trans-Atlantic spelling bee nonsense, feel free to, in future, not post your ill-researched (I’m told there is no greater insult for a real journalist) on the “world wide” web.
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As a conservatory student of musical theater, I will tell you that you are incorrect in your statements about theatre, music and dance – the quality of these – on the show. (I’m not saying I like what is on the show…because it’s cheap and corny, but that isn’t my point of writing this.) Not only this, but you make accusations about what it takes to be successful in the field/in arts and these false accusations contradict what you say a few sentences before!
This is poorly written and based on nothing substantial other than your desire to gripe about something to make you feel better about yourself. Wake up. GROW up. And Open your little eyes and brain. From reading this article, I’ll go ahead and say that your perception of the world is seriously twisted. Sorry. Read my blog for just a TASTE of logic-based truth…which is for what I am constantly searching: the TRUTH.
If you’d like details of how you may edit the aspects of this article based on music, dance, theatre, and the arts, I’d be more than willing to help – but judging from the tone of what you’ve written, I doubt you’d be willing to listen.
You are foul for trying to impose your beliefs (backed by religion and morals) onto others. Of course, I know that I didn’t have to come to this site and didn’t have to read and didn’t have to comment… Still – try approaching your writings and thinking from scientific means or life-based logic…think about what you say before you write it and IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU AFTER YOU’VE THOUGHT UP EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE argument, then post. Otherwise, you just create a blog full of material that most deem to be silly, laughable, and unsubstantial.
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I agree that this show probably isn’t for children, it’s a little too adult for them. That’s probably why it’s on at 9pm. And if that was the whole point of this article, I’d be fine with you saying that the show may not be appropriate to young children.
But you didn’t. I’m not even 100% sure that you’ve watched the show (I know that you claim you have, but I’m thinking you weren’t paying attention because half of this stuff didn’t happen). I don’t feel like they’re showing naked locker room scenes all that often, because if they had, believe me, I would have noticed. Additionally, I know there’s ever been any explicit sex or “gay things with guys in the bathroom”. Your assumptions about Will being gay are way off base (or so it would appear to me) and even if they weren’t, being a homosexual does not mean that one shouldn’t allowed around students. If we’re truly talking about “intimate, private contact with young people” then no teachers (heterosexual or homosexual) should be afforded that (I believe in most cases it would be illegal)
As for your take on the Arts/Sports rivalry. I don’t think anyone is saying that you can’t get a football scholarship. Obviously, that is one way to go. But their team sucks, so what they were saying was that Finn had a better chance at getting in with Glee, since things were looking more hopeful there. The arts teach teamwork just as much as sports do, believe me. If someone forgets their lines in the school play, it’s just as much a problem as if someone can’t remember a play on the football field. Having fun in the arts is fine if that’s what you want to do. Having fun in sports is fine if that’s what you want to do. I haven’t seen anything suggesting that kids should drop all college preparations to put on a show with their friends. And if they have, perhaps you should talk to your children about the importance of higher education, if you believe in that. After all, you are the parent, not the TV show. Kids can get input from TV shows, but ultimately, parents are the ones pointing the way.
Also, I think it’s fantastic how you’ve given your personal input about the actors’ careers, writing on the show, etc. You are clearly such a brilliant creative mind that we should all listen to you. If you are going to write an investigative journalism piece, maybe you should just stick with the facts instead of embellishing the story with your (often unfounded) opinions.
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Oh, and being gay is not a lifestyle choice. Why would anyone choose to be alienated, physically and emotionally attacked and denied civil rights? Most people would not. And I think that the reason that there are “more” homosexuals now is because people aren’t so afraid anymore to be who they truly are. Fifty years ago many currently “out” gay males probably would have been miserable and married with children, not because it’s who they are but because it was what they had to be. If a TV show can turn you gay, you probably already were to begin with. Curing people of gay urges isn’t possible. You can repress them, but you can’t cure them. And guess what?! Because the bible shouldn’t be taken literally, this does not necessarily mean that the gays are going to hell. If they kill people, sure they are, but not because they’re gay. According the the bible my dad could sell me into slavery. Thank goodness he’s not so literal.
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Thank you for agreeing with me that this show is not appropriate for children. As for homosexuality, I am informed by thousand of years of Christian learning and wisdom. You may recall from scripture:
“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” –Leviticus 18:22
“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” –Romans 1:26-27
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I’ve always enjoyed that chapter of Leviticus, but, Mr Billings, I think everyone stops a line short when preaching against unnatural sex acts.
Leviticus 18:23 reads: Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
So just to clear this up, God thinks same sex sex is abominal, but bestiality is just confusing.
I’ll bet he throws a great party!
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Billings – I AM a parent. I am aware of today’s teenagers. I have a toddler, but also have a teenage sister. The fact that these kids that are correcting you, the adult author of this pathetic article, is scarier than the things you think Glee is corrupting today’s youth with. Yes, Glee has some mature themes, but I haven’t known one teenager that hasn’t grown into an adult. I’d rather have my sister watch this show than trash like Jersey Shore and other reality shows of the sort.
Get a grip, Billings, and stop attempting to hold yourself at a higher level than the kids that have commented on your ridiculous article. As an adult and parent, I’d rather spend my time with these kids who have a more open and accepting point of view than you, another adult, that thinks that anything that is different is wrong. Did your parents not hug you enough as a child or something? Grow up.
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Also.. the whole point of people getting pissed at the “Jewish Rachel” identification is that there are other ways to describe people than by their religion. You could have said “Female Lead Rachel”.
By the way, Quinn is not a slutty cheerleader. She is the president of the celibacy club. Granted, she got pregnant by having sex her first time ever.. but I never knew that having sex once made you a slut. Thanks for correcting me, Billings.
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OMG! A show doesn’t follow the Bible but actual life situations while being a delightful musical. WELCOME TO REALITY these things are all out in the world. Teen pregnancy, Gay teenagers, Peer pressure, The high school “line” of things, SEX! . We are all going to face these things sooner or later in our life’s weather it be TV, Movies, Books, or real life situations.
I was in 3 Choirs my entire 4 years in High School and we switched from show tunes and modern music! and it was the one of the best things i could have done to take up music. I also did sports most of the time also til a injury took me out of the game.
Believe me when I say there are shows out there far worse then Glee that Kids could be watching A.K.A any reality show on MTV or VH1! So … You don’t like the show, OK TURN OFF YOUR TV AND LET THE REST OF US ENJOY!
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I don’t know why you people are getting all hysterical and spamming this website with your inane comments. This article is intended for informed Christian parents looking for guidance in raising their children. If the content is too difficult for you to stomach, I suggest you move on and leave the reporting to the journalists.
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In some cases, like this one, if we leave the “reporting to the journalists,” then we will be misinformed with false information.
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following that logic you people should shut up and move on about obama being president. leave leading the country to the president, right?
he’s president = he’s qualified and no matter what mistakes he make or what flaws he may have he can’t be wrong…or maybe that logic only aplly to you?
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EXCUSE ME WHILE I DANCE AROUND IN MY SPARKLY PINK LOLLERSKATES.
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for all of the times you, stephenson billings, have replied to some of the above comments I’m really curious as to why you’ve yet to address any of the SEVERAL factual errors you made in the article that SEVERAL posters have pointed out.
as an “investigative journalist” your job seems to be to obtain FACTUAL information before writing and publishing an article. since you failed to do that the least you can do now is CORRECT your article, and thank so many of the posters above for doing your job for you and better than you.
of course, I don’t expect a response to this, a comment that points out all of YOUR flaws– you know? sort of like your article does with a TV SHOW.
oh and before you try to completely skirt the issue (AGAIN), I AM a parent of a child, so don’t pull the “you’re not a parent so you are not the intended audience of this (largely untrue) information” with me, bub.
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Please speak (or type) in an appropriate manner. Your tone is immature and vengeful and I do not appreciate it.
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once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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As an investigative journalist, I think you should have researched the basic facts you present in this post before publishing it. It took me all of 60 seconds to go to IMDb and look up the ages of the actresses that play the female students. All of them are in their early twenties (most are 23), NOT late twenties or early thirties. If you go to the same website, you’ll find that the actor that plays Artie (the wheelchair-bound student) is in some sort of boy band. This would seem to indicate that he can, indeed, sing.
It might also be beneficial to research the numbers of college students, who earn scholarships through arts and sports before making blanket statements about which is more likely. I played basketball (varsity as a freshman), soccer (varsity as a freshman), volleyball and was on the swim team in high school. My sister participated in theatre and dance. Both of us went to academically-competitive schools (ranked higher than Ohio State and lower than Princeton). I received only academic scholarships, while my sister received both arts and academic scholarships. I haven’t done the statistical research, but I would expect that the likelihood of getting either an athletic or an arts scholarship greatly depends on the college and the talent of the student.
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I’m both disheartened and bewildered by this article, as well as many of the responses. It certainly begs the question; “Exactly what planet did some of you grow up on?”
Which one did you live on that simply allowed you to drift through life and avoid any difficulties as an adolescent? I’m unsure that many of you even recall what it was like to be that age, let alone the seriously tough choices that came with it — the defining choices that are not only unavoidable but forge us into stronger people.
This argument might have solid ground if not for one intrinsic fact. This is a show about HIGH SCHOOL. Have you ever been? Did you, by chance, happen to notice any recurring themes? Sex. Drugs. Violence. They’re everywhere and they aren’t going away. By covering your teenager’s eyes and ears, you’re not doing them justice. You’re not equipping them with the proper tools to make an informed decision about their own lives, and worse yet, you’re spelling out that you don’t trust them to come to their own conclusions and make educated choices.
This show is all about the tough choices.
Yes, it’s fun and musical and bright and happy on the outside. But that’s what society is. You have to rip off the pretentious, shiny paper to get to what is really underneath; imperfections, fears, questions, heavy emotions, self doubt, confusion, sexuality, pressure. That is who we are : we’re HUMAN. And that is part of what the show is attempting to magnify. Your teenagers are dealing with these issues every day, whether they tell you or not. They are confronted with drugs, sexuality (both straight and homosexual), alcohol, violence (as a result of confusion/fear/anger) and every day they have to decide what path is right for them. They’re surrounded on all sides and being pressured by everyone who all want them to take different directions. Can you imagine being that torn? You should try to because I remember it like it was just yesterday. But thankfully I had parents who wanted me to know and understand and see as much about those choices as I could so that when the ball dropped in my court, I could simply pick it up with ease and consideration, then serve it into whichever direction I knew was right for me.
By blaming a show for themes which already exist right now in your homes and schools is irresponsible. If you’re unhappy with society (or one of the various facets) — own it. Step up and fight to change it. Don’t post a web article slandering a television show that is meant to say, loud and clear, to the kids of today, “I understand.” It’s taking the scary topics that they can’t talk about and it’s making them less scary. Whether you know it or not, this show is helping them. And no matter if it goes on or not (which it is highly liable to) you have not erased the issues it has spotlighted. Keep that in mind while you’re going about blaming it for problems that have existed well before it ever came out.
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Dear Destiny,
I indeed had a positive childhood experience but I’m not sure why that matters here. I was a successful high school football athlete and to this day, it still remains an important aspect of my life. I often reflect back on my days on the field and the lessons I learned there with joy. It taught me the importance of teamwork and competition, of being properly socialized within your peer group and of meeting new people. I do use that background when approaching a subject like this show Glee, but it’s not the only thing I use. Of course my Christian faith and my work counseling teens in my church outreach also has taught me about the issues kids face today. And my journalism, of course. So you can see I have a great deal of resources to draw on when I speak about the health and mental state of young people today.
Stephenson
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too bad they are aparently all as usefull as my ass huh?
hello do you see us the enromous amaount of people telling you that you are an idiot? yes thats right we are the people with the problems you talk about. but for some strange reason WE HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT!!!!
once again i’ll refer to the fact that whille you may be doing this to help all you do is hurt. you ideals are fine and all but the rest of the world does not share them and forcing your ideals on others is the most harmful thing you can do…well just consider how you fell when people start explaing there’s no god.
the feeling you get when a non-relegious person asuluts your faith is the EXACT same thing you do to us every time you post an article.
do unto other what you want done unto you is perfect quote for this situation as whille you’d love for everyone to agree with you thats not the point here. but the fact that you post your own openion as fact. and then cry like a baby when we do the same.
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Jazzy, have you ever watched this show? I suspect they don’t play it in Europe. You really should see it before you try to defend its questionable content. I must also say that your comments over time are becoming more and more deranged and irrational. I don’t know what wild world you live in, but please try to calm down once in a while. You’re throwing strong language and anarchist views out there and it’s not productive. I realize many children today experiment with drugs out of peer pressure, but ultimately this is a serious dead end street. You harm yourself and those around you. I have counseled several teens with this addiction problem and they struggle with rebelling against every authority figure they come across. They find comfort in death metal and grunge concerts and black nail polish, that whole anarchist lifestyle thing. Well, take a step back and you’ll realize these goth kids just look silly. On top of that, they attack every adult around them who symbolizes maturity and intelligence and morality and success. They think it’s cool and fun and waste their days hanging out in the parking lot at the mall. But the truth is that the drugs aren’t making them cool, they’re ruining their lives. I hope and pray you stay away from drugs.
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Glee is shown in Europe. It is actually shown all around the world (another fact you did not find in your “research”).
I actually do know those who are in the Goth lifestyle, and now YOU are commenting on what they wear and what they are doing?
Have you ever heard about TREATING OTHERS THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED?
Also, you are assuming that most teens today are partying hard and doing drugs and experimenting.
Yes, it is different times and they have changed since you were high school, but don’t assume that all teens are doing things like that.
You keep saying you did football in high school and you had a positive high school experience. So are you saying that you never felt like these people on the show? That you do not know what it is like to be an underdog? Let me tell you, unless you have felt like one in the past, you would not understand the show. Now I am just asking why you decided to even watch it in the first place? If you did not have a connection to it, why and how did you decide to watch and “research” on this? Did someone tell you about the show and only watched the episodes that caused controversy (since you did say that you did not watch all, only some)?
Do you understand what kind of effect this show can do to people? It gives people hope and faith in themselves to be proud of who they are and that it’s ok to be different. It gives them a getaway for an hour from maybe a reality they wished that they were not in. I know for me it is.
I apologize if I have offended you or how you live your life. But as I said before, you needed to do more extensive research before posting. Look at the outcry you have caused. Think about the opposition to your opinion and aknowlege them, knowing that they do not feel the same, but you are open to other people’s opinion.
I do commend my fello Gleeks for speaking their mind, but please try to be respectful as well as stating your opinion and pleading the case.
~Tracy
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let’s make 1 thing perfectly clear. i do not do drugs. nor have i ever had the intention nor will i ever have it. why? because i’m simply too smart. i know it ruins lives.
but thats not the argument.
strong language? ofcourse it’s my way of putting a bit of punch after my words. it’s an insult. and it’s part of my normal language though i’m rarely this harsh.
finally no i never saw the show. most likely i’d hate it if i did. thats why i don’t defend anything about whats in the show. i simply defends peoples right to watch what they want. the same right you have to read your bible defend these kids right to watch this show.
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Jazzy, honestly you lack self control. I find it disconcerting. I hope and pray some day you grow up and find a woman to make happy. And please calm down you nutty rants. I can’t hardly tell what sort of insanity you mean half the time. It’s like talking to a sleepy crack addict through a bus window.
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So how many sleepy crack addicts have you spoken to through bus windows? Just curious, Mr. Billings.
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why do i lack selfcontrol? because i say my openion? in that case you lack it aswell.
and you’re the one who insulted me simply because you can’t win and arguement with me by actually discusing and therefor have to sink to personal insults. i’ll admit i do the same but at least i acopany my insults with logical arguments.
i will once again ask why is it helping when you do it but unaceptable behaviour when we do it?(talking about telling people how to live their lives)
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LOL this article is hilarious!!!
Although it worries me that there probably are (insane) people who think like this.
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Where to begin. No, you know what, I won’t even begin anywhere. I’d just like to say that the majority of statements in this article are false, and what’s even worse: they are presented as facts.
What’s the most offensive thing is the comments regarding the gay character Kurt Hummel. The article continually adresses being gay as the wrong kind of behaviour. To equate being gay to terrorism, be it intellectual or whatever term you use, is just WRONG! And puts the entire article in perspective. Apparently you can’t do much more then judge people, using your religion as an excuse! Which is extremely shamefull.
Shame on you, and hooray for Glee, tackling topics that need to be discussed, not ignored, like they have been for the past 50 years.
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“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” –1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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“You gotta put your behind in your past.” – Pumbaa, “The Lion King”
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“What you are is a question only you can answer.” – Lois McMaster Bold
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“If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.” -Exodus, 21:2
Can Artie, wheelchair actually buy Jewish Rachel? Is there a limit to the number of Hebrew slaves one may purchase? I’d like to do some remodeling, so the more, the merrier.
But seriously, if you are concerned about children being exposed to horrific acts of sex and violence and fantasy, you should really be pushing for a ban of the Bible. Read it?
“When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.” -Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Violent much?
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“Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father.” -Genesis 19:30-32
Incest that was the result of what amounts to date rape of the elderly! This after Lot had offered his daughters up for gang-rape, which was followed by the transformation of Lot’s wife into a *pillar of salt* just because she looked back at a city she was fleeing. What good, clean, wholesome fun!
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“… I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the Hekhal (sanctuary). Above Him stood the Seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.” -Isaiah 6:1-3
Now THAT sounds like fantasy!
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This is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read,XD!
Can you make a review of True Blood or Supernatural?That’d be priceless,LOL!
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oh yeah that’d be glorious especially if he actually goes all the way to the new season of supernatural. i’d love to hear this idiots openion ont hat show.
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Even better: Twilight xD
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I would really like a review of True Blood on this site!!!!
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Looks like somebody is still bitter they didn’t get the lead in Oliver!
Seriously, you should submit this to The Onion because I got a good laugh.
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Also, I find your overwhelming use of bold and underlining to be gratuitous and in bad taste. But I suppose that matches the article.
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They’re called hyperlinks. They take you to other website articles that substaniate my research.
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I am aware of what a hyperlink is. The items in red are hyperlinks, underlined/bold or not. Most of your article is convoluted with underlined or bold phrases that are not hyperlinks. As a reader this is irritating and misleading.
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Agreed. You would never find a real journalist who felt the need to emphasize every other sentence in his article.
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In this article written by my sister (who is currently in her senior year at American University for print journalism), you’ll notice that there are no words underlined or in bold.
http://www.ivorytowerz.com/2007/01/invisible-government.html
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what kind of last name is Snedeker anyway? always did have you pegged as a minority…
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Hey Steve,
Instead of doing such great works on how tv characters are making kids gay…why dont you just go find another kids party to work.
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Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!
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“Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!”
It’s not appropriate for an unmarried, childless, 60-something year old man with a resemblance to John Wayne Gacey to say something like that. You keep denying that you’re a pedophile, but you’re only digging yourself into a hole by saying those sorts of things about children. Then you go and accuse other people of having unnatural attractions towards kids. Parents should have warning bells going off in their heads upon reading something like that.
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Where is your mind at anyway? Please get your facts straight and stop trying to make yourself into some kind of Savior! Lea Michelle (Rachael) is 23 years old not 30! Stop being a Pompas Ass!
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Your inaccurate and twisted critique would be funny if it wasn’t so terrifying.
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Everyone keeps posting about facts. Here’s some. I have never watched Glee. I am adult, with a college degree. I studied theatre for a little while, but my degree is in Business Management. (And yes, it’s spelled “-re” at the end. Blame the University.) I run a youth drama ministry at my church, for middle school students. Some of them watch, and adore, this show.
I can understand one’s concern over the issues you’ve presented. The fact is, tat whether or not this accurately depicts high school is immaterial. The show is fiction, which is relatively obvious to those who watch it. In fantasy, high school can be anything anyone wants it to be. Therein lies the draw. Disney’s High School Musical, a multi-million dollar franchise, isn’t accurate either. But it’s what people want to see. Glee represents what Dirty Dancing represented. What all fiction represents. What we want. What we think we want, even if, were we to ever actually get it, wouldn’t it anymore.
Gays, Lesbians, Homosexuals… it’s not going away. Taking it off of television, making it taboo… that’s not going to make it stop. You don’t have to agree with it, but you should respect the person. Love the person, hate the sin. Everybody sins. Jesus loves us anyway. God waits to judge people until they’re dead. We shouldn’t judge other people at all. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Love everyone. The gays, the lesbians, the women having their abortions. Pray for them, by all means. It’s going to go to a higher court, anyway. And there it will be judged by the one whose opinion matters.
And in the meantime? I would recommend you stop watching a television show you clearly dislike. I’m sure there are better things you can do with your time.
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As satire this isn’t exactly Onion material. It isn’t funny just a caricature of the ugly ignorance that is religious intolerance. Whatever the aim it fails, as “research” with more holes than a miniature golf course or as satire that only succeeds in provoking reaction not laughter. It’s missing the funny Steve. Hits yes, laughs no.
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I am re-posting this from a little ways up to ensure that the author sees it and doesn’t try to avoid yet another post:
once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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I am not a DJ and I don’t take “requests” thank you very much. I stand by my article and want you people to stop spamming me with your hate. Frankly I’