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An innocuous little show popped up on America’s tv screens late last year. Its name is “Glee” and it’s full of vibrant teens dealing with the gentle challenges of high school life. These are fresh-faced kids, hard working and motivated, who can break into song at the drop of a sweaty football. But is there more to this sugary pop of a series? Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations? What makes this show so popular?
An in-depth analysis of Glee will certainly raise the eyebrows of parents across America. It contains a surprising number of mature scenarios– from pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation. Glee goes out of its way to appear wholesome at first glance. The first 15 minutes of every episode is quite polite and that’s part of its success. It is colorful and cheerful with a scent of innocence. The message it seems to send is that teens should stay in school and aim for college. Yet beyond that (once the adults in the room tune out), it descends into a much darker place.
The Parents Television Council warns that Glee contains, “gratuitous sex, explicit dialogue, violent content, and obscene language. It is completely unsuitable for children.” This is reason enough parents should be tuning their teens out of Glee. But I would go even further– the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast. I sincerely believe that no person or organization should continue to finance this show.
SEXUALITY, SPORTS AND SHOWTUNES
To understand the dangerous implications of this poorly conceived series, let me start with the characters. They are just not believable. All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life. The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.
Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?
Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance. But it’s not convincing on that million-dollar stage. They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.
Ultimately, these ad hoc songfests give children a very false impression about talent and success. They are led to believe if they just spin around and shout, they’re creating world-class music. They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true. Some people are born with the vocal chords for music, others have the bodies for football and others have the brains for math. That is reality. But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.
On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club. If children take this belief to heart, it could wind up seriously hurting their chances of college survival as well as their health (sports are essential for keeping fit, strong and attractive!).
Another major fault with the show is its fawning celebration of teenage homosexuality and consumer indulgence. Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
THE GOLDEN GIRLS CONNECTION
Recently, I wrote about studies that revealed the dangerous influence that the 1980s tv show “The Golden Girls” had on American men now in their 30s, 40s and 50s (see “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals”). The link between watching the Girls and increased risks of homosexual behavior was made abundantly meaningful. In a nutshell, the Golden Girls turned a generation away from procreation. It made our American boys into the most raunchy, campy, carnal people on the planet. If, as a society, we could have returned to the 80s with what we know now and stop that show, American culture might be drastically different today.
As I write about Glee now in 2010, I can’t help but think that America is on the threshold of another dramatic cultural shift. If we let this show continue, our children will find a way to watch it. It is a drug that is that addictive. If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be? How many middle-aged men will find themselves in a dead-end Glee-based lifestyle? Will they be ostentatious and sensitive, their dreams smashed up against a wall crying out to have that giant hole in their souls stuffed with some musky foreign thrill? Will they be violating what’s left of our traditional cultural landscape with unimaginable high-tech perversions, drenching, nay drowing the bright young men of tomorrow in their relentless sauces of net porn and showtunes, maximized liberties and stem-cell party drugs? Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist? Change the channel my friends. Change the channel and change the world!
PARENT’S GUIDE TO THE CAST OF GLEE
- Football Player Finn: An implausible character who goes both ways– glee club geek and handsome football star. He reminds one of the old lady Sophia on The Golden Girls– a bit of a cute, befuddled sidekick with some comic lines, but not a central character in the best scenes on the show. I truly feel for the actor who performs this poorly-written role, though I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.
- Sue the Cheerleading Coach: Her acting comes across as pretentious and egomaniacal and possibly too masculine (is this intentional?). Tone it down a bit, that’s my advice. Bea Arthur of The Golden Girls has already done everything and anything you could possibly imagine doing in your career, Sue.
- Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.
- Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.
- Mercedes Jones: Her sassy attitude does not set the right example for today’s young girls. She does sing well, and I appreciate that but I really don’t think this show is the right fit for her career. She really sticks out like a sore thumb. I could see her in a church choir, however. Or maybe play the wheelchair role?
- Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.
- Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.
- Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often? Is this supposed to be funny?
- Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.
- Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly.
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I’m taken aback by how misinformed this post is. I suggest actually watching a show before trying to convince other parents what they should know about it.
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I want to chime in here. I’m a parent of two girls, 11 and 13 and I do not let them watch this program. When it first came out, I saw it and it was very sexual and more like something older teens and adults would watch. I think its hard when you’re a parent to draw the line. They all want to be like the older girls and this program tries to get girls like that. We are a Christian family and I do not think there is any respect for that in the show. There are a lot of scenes where they mock the Christians and Faith. Its a bit disappointing coming from Fox. And I have a personal problem with the boys on this program. There are definitely gay topics and if you worry about that you should not watch or have your kids watch. Its getting harder to find something decent in prime time now that sex is everyway. The game shows and dancing with the stars are worth watching.
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I couldn’t agree more.
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Dancing WIth The Stars? Really?
Clearly you do not watch any of the latin weeks…
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Quick: better hide under your pillow! You wouldn’t want your kids to see an experience too much in this world!
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your going to jail
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and if anyone sees the real adam nelson ( his link is afr ) tell him his favorite pagan warlock is back and looking for him
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I agree there going to jail but how retarded can the ones who wright these blogs cause they be fucking idiots If you guys are so fucking christany go burn the pagan
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…that doesn’t even make any sense! Why the bad photoshop? Why can’t you tell the difference between “your” and “you’re”? Why would they be going to jail?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?
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You definetly have something against gay people! WHAT’S WRONG WITH BEING GAY!?! ‘Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?’ no, it just is not. I think you 1st should watch the show before saying this kind of things. And maybe they did not cast women who really are 16 because of the law! My girls are 12 and 13 and I want them to watch this show, so they can learn to respect one another, even if they are not like the most people. Because that’s what this show is about! It’s about outstanding people! For example in the last show one ‘popular’ cheerleader says that she like to be in glee-club, and that is because she learned to know those people and so the show learnes you not to judge on the outside. That’s something YOU don’t understand. And Artie is the best male singer and maybe the show has ‘far to many musical numbers’ because it IS a show about music. You have to many prejudices and nobody here should take an example from this blog. You’re not a good role-model for the next generation!
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Madam,
The Bible is abundantly clear on what is wrong with being gay.
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Go read the bible, you fucking retard. Being gay isn’t a sin, giving in to your ‘sinful lusts’ is. Why the fuck would a god just create a sinner who can’t help but be a sinner because THAT IS WHO HE IS and has to lie to himself to not sin? Isnt that a sin?
also you’re all niggers.
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harold camping… aren’t you the nutcase preacher that “predicted” the end of the world on May 21st 2011??
well here we are, june 27 2011. LOL NICE TRY DUMBASS. i wouldn’t EVER listen to anything you have to say because clearly you have NO IDEA! xo
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Can you please tell me when Jesus is coming? You can’t be wrong FOUR times, can you???
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Do you have any clue what 11 and 13 year olds talk about at school? Do you remember being a kid at all?
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And do you Sean think it’s appropriate for a grown man such as yourself to be so infatuated with a tv show about little boys?
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Stephenson, that is a remarkable statement coming from someone who consistently writes about homosexuality and youth. Your descriptions of homoerotic moments on television is so detailed as to be positively enthusiastic. But generally, your intolerance of sections of the community is completely un-Christian.
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I wasnt sure if this article was a spoof of something a retarded christian might say, until i read your comment. I am truly in awe of your ignorance. I hope your influence over young people ends with writing articles on this web site, otherwise may a non-existent god help us!!
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I am truly heartbroken to see a topic like this, I am a 20yo PROUDLY gay male and I must say to you that after reading several of your post you seem to be consumed with a hatred for the gay community. Number one, as a CHRISTIAN myself it is sad to see people consumed with hate period whatever that hate is for. What is there of your life when it is consumed with hatred? Number two, Have you ever sat down with a regular gay male and spoken with him of the challenges he goes through daily or maybe the humiliation and abandonment issues he has for parents that disapprove of him (BECAUSE of post like this)? Better yet have you looked around at the people in our world, what good will hatred do when it consumes you, they kill or hurt people that are different, they emotionally batter us in places that ban other such violence, and they shun us in places that don’t allow “Verbal or Physical Harassment”. Now do you think we chose this lifestyle for its great appeal?? Lastly I would like to point out this exact same hate for homosexuals not in any group or persons, but in myself while i was in the closet. I have to ask if your are lashing out because inside you feel homosexual feelings and your parents, your family, your friends, your teachers, whomsoever scared or hurt you because of these feelings? I don’t want to know here but there are a number of anonymous hot lines that can help with the coming out process or just releasing these pent up emotions. The GLBT National Help Center 1-888-843-4564 or The Trevor Helpline: 1-800-850-8078 to name a few.
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talk about the pot calling the kettle black! YOU’RE the one obsessed with youth culture and gayety. Just come out already, you self hating gay.
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HAHAHAHA did you actually just say that?…
Are you REALLY accusing him of that simply because he likes the show? Honestly? It’s people like you who give bad raps for Chirstians. Please either learn the word of God or stop calling yourself a Christian. Jesus would never support you in any way if you made that argument to him. Stop embarrassing yourself and giving blind parents a reason to stop their children from watching this great t.v show. I’m strong 17-year old Chirstian and I know alot more about whats too much for kids than you. Stop enclosing yourself in a bubble and realize the world around you has changed. It’s not what it used to be 150 yrs ago… or even 30 yrs ago. It’s not this show that has a bad impact on kids, it’s people like you who do that.
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I respect your opinions. I will not be condescending or verbose.
As a concerned parent of two teenagers and school teacher, I read this article and was horrified to see all the nasty comments. I agree that the foul language and wild accusations are completely unnecessary. You certainly aren’t homosexual or a fool. You, Mr. Billings, said: “I have been incredibly decent and reserved thus far but you know I’m starting to get a little exhausted by you people,” and “I find it very interesting that you people harp on the one little typo of this article….” Very fair, reasonable things I would expect of an investigative journalist.
But sprinkled throughout your responses is an indication of extreme disrespect, particularly picking on those with poor writing skills:
I can’t believe that someone with the ridiculous name of “Jazmon”is telling me that my Christian faith is “like totally out of bounds”.
Thanks for sharing your third-grade education level with the internet. Hopefully you will learn basic grammar before your next post?
Irregardless isn’t a word? Oh, you must be plenty smart! Where did you learn this garbage? Did you even bother to consult a dictionary before you lied to the world?
You people are grotesque and frankly insane.
Thank you for showing us the maturity level of the average Glee fan.
Your maturity is a joke, as is your intelligence.
-Stephenson Billings
Yes, some of the posts you were responding to were nasty and lacking in substance. But your petty attacks on intelligence, grammar, maturity, names(!), etc., is just as bad because you attack them while denying their opinions! I encourage you to look past the hate, to the ideas hidden by that hatred. Then maybe you’ll be taken seriously.
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WHAT!? LITTLE BOYS! They’re playing seventeen year olds!
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I’m a 13 year old glee fan. I have a couple things to say to you Stephenson. Maybe girls like Rachel (not the whole gay dads part) need some encouragement because we need to know we belong some where. Maybe it has ” far too many musical numbers and extremely choreographed dances” because its about SINGING and DANCING!!!!!! What would this show be like if it had normal teens acting and normal teen dancing? I don’t think it would be a good show! Did you think about that? Plus, like, whats wrong with gay people? They are gods kids any way! I happen to think “gay” Kurt is awesome! I hope you actually watch the show before reveiwing it.
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lighten up! for gods sake. you are a terrible mother.
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what a crock of crap.
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Funniest opinion piece I’ve read since Gordon Liddy’s “Book”.
JP
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I’d heard sex was everywhere, but I was not previously aware it was ‘everyway’; could you explain more? I’d be very interested to hear about having it everway.
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Seriously?! I’m a 13 year old girl and Glee is my life. If your girls don’t learn about cursing, homosexuality, and sex, then I am 100% sure there learning it in school. Don’t you remember being our age at all?
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U go grl!!!
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Vocal CORDS, you illiterate twit, not vocal CHORDS. No wonder you can’t tell someone lip-synching from someone with an excellent voice.
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exactly. and author accuses artie of not singing… the actor was on broadway. of course they’re going to lipsync in the actual episodes.
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Next they’re going to say the Tele-Tubbies are gay!!!
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Aren’t they?
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oh and Bazinga
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I can’t believe I just read that entire article. The first thing I want to say is that the author is either very old or in some kind of fantasy land and never leaves their house or watches the news. You don’t want parents to let their kids watch this show because of a gay character, the fact that the football team showers after a game (its not like you see anything), a teen pregnancy and the decisions that come from that. Wow I just can’t believe what I read in that article. Maybe its cause I’m not religious (AKA BRAINWASHED) and just found this article from a random search but wow in today’s time/generation gay high school students and teen pregnancy is all to common. Seriously open your eyes and see the world for what it is.
To be completely honest I hope I have angered a few people with this comment, it means that you might just open your eyes and look outside your little closed-minded world.
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at first I liked this show the music was great but then the sexual theme became more and more prevalent, references to sex-ting charters actually talking about there sexually active lives as if it were a common occurrence in high schools as if all high school students were sexually active. Kids that age haven’t the maturity to be experimenting with sex and this show actively promotes sex….
I work in the hospitals and I see teenagers children 14 15 years old and pregnant unprepared and far to young to except the responsibility’s of parenthood. with so many parents absent from their children lives many children find shows like this one to be a source of guidance in there lives, how many children will end up as unwed mothers because of how this show has influenced there lives? and there decission making.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but sex is very much a reality for teenagers pretty much everywhere. It’s true that not all high-school students are sexually active, but I guarantee that every single one of them knows one who is. This is no different than it was when you were a teen, or your parents, or theirs.
The problem, however, is not that television shows which are designed to appeal to younger people who thrive on drama (much like soap operas are aimed at older people who never grew out of that phase)”actively promote sex.” In fact, I have yet to see a show that says, ‘hey kids, go out and have lots of sex because it’s the cool thing to do!”
No, it is parents who refuse to educate their children about sex at all that lead to the high pregnancy rates among teens, especially the 14 and 15 year-olds that you mentioned in your comment. Because let’s face it: abstinence only education only leads to early parenthood. This is just a fact. And the more you tell kids that they cannot do something, the more they are going to want to.
So instead of being appalled at the idea of your children actually being educated about the consequences of having sex, why not do your part to ensure that fewer young girls get pregnant or contract STDs by NOT trying to blind them to the real world.
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I think there is no more sex mentioned than in an average high school. These issues come up, a lot. And the shows messages aren’t all bad: two female characters have said “no” and been respected by their partners. Finn had sex and regretted not waiting for the right person. Quinn is not at all a “slutty cheerleader,” in fact, she was president of the celibacy club and condemned mention of the word “contraception.” She made ONE bad decision and got pregnant. For those of you who really think that your children should not be having sex in high school (though it’s likely they’ve at least discussed it with friends, even if they aren’t doing it), she is a good example of the NEGATIVE consequences. On the other hand she demonstrates the problems with abstinence only sex education.
Yes, there are some characters who are promiscuous. But any public school has those people, it’s not like you can put blinders up and never expose kids to them.
No where does this show actively encourage sex, but it does represent the reality of high school sexuality.
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Lol me too I just found this on google
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Best Satire Ever outside the Onion!
This is truly genius… how you can keep typing with a straight face is beyond me… not breaking character even once.
Just Brilliant… the whole site, funny as all get out, but this article puts it over the top.
And the fact that you are getting such impassioned responses… just amazing. That people would take you at your word shows that you have brilliantly portrayed the extremist Christian fundamentalist mind-set perfectly.
My hat’s off to you, sir. I especially like all the links… very clever.
And adding “The Golden Girls” to the mix? Genius.
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I love how much is NOT factual in this article. I believe you (Stephenson Billings) see everything homosexual in “Glee” because you are in fact a homosexual yourself.
P.S. This was the most entertaining piece of shit I’ve read in awhile. Good Job!
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ZING!
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OK. Seems this guy’s getting a lot of hate and while I understand why, I do agree with some of his points. Let me first say though: I’m 13, unlike most of the people commenting, and I’d like to think I’m intelligent enough to decide what shows I watch, without my parents telling me what will ‘corrupt my innocent mind,’ though they do try. That being said, I’ve recently stopped watching Glee because I don’t agree with it’s morals. I’m a Christian, and for all the messages about no discriminating, it sure makes Christians look like hypocrites and liars. Many of my friends have strong views, whether its Christian, or Hindu, or atheism. Being Christian doesn’t mean you’re brainwashed, as someone here said, and I was horrified when I read that. It’s a choice that you make on your own free will and for me and my friends at least, we agree with its morals and it makes us happy to serve a God so kind and strong and giving. He’s poured out blessing after blessing for me and my family, but I say, I can only try to share what I have with you; if you choose to reject it, it’s your loss.
My friend was watching Glee the other day, saying, I hope Emma gets Mr. Schuester. If anyone doesn’t know, Mr. Schuester is married. That made me sad… Making affairs and adultery look glamorous is commonplace nowadays, and noone does it better than Glee. They turn Mrs. Schuester into the ditzy, clingy wife, making viewers WANT Emma to end up with him, and no doubt they will. If I were a little less convinced about my morals, I might just think having an affair is okay, it’s glamorous, it’s all about the romance and when it disappears you move on to the next person… when you’re in a relationship, keep looking over your shoulder for someone better…
As for gays and lesbians, I have nothing against them, if it’s true. I object when it’s about lust, just as I object when it’s lust with straight people. Can’t stand people who discriminate, but lately, isn’t that what Glee is doing- shifting the hate (and I hate hate as much as the next person) onto Christians? I happen to know that the director, or someone of that sort, is gay and for that reason, dislikes Christians. Now, broadcasting your stereotype of them worldwide, collecting the hate and making life difficult for them, because of your own vendetta? Now isn’t THAT a little hypocritical from someone making a show based around equality?
^ Wow. I just read all that and realised how serious I sounded. Sorry for that, just had to get my point across, even if it was a little blurry~ Just a little insight from a teenager. xx
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Ok first i would like to say that i myself am 15 and i agree with what you have said about being self-dependant when it comes to what you watch because when i was 13 i felt that i was old enough to decide what i should, and should not be allowed to watch also. With that said i feel that i must oppose your veiws about this show, but before i do that i want you to think about something, do you watch The Secret Life of the American Teenager, or for that matter ANYTHING on either mtv or vh1? Be honest because i mean if you ar seriously going to sit there an try to comdenm Glee the you obviously have no clue what the world is really like!
In saying that Glee is a negative influence because of its supposed references to pre-marital sex, drug use, adultery, abortion, premature ejaculation, explicit homosexual experimentation. Considering the fact that The Secret Life of the American Teenager is about TEENAGE PREGNANCY i am honestly surprised that you and Mr. Stephenson Billings aren’t more interested in wasting your time putting down that show, and expressing thoughts, such as the ones already voiced above in this article, about how such shows should be canceled because, and i DIRECTLY QUOTE, ‘As I write about Glee now in 2010, I can’t help but think that America is on the threshold of another dramatic cultural shift. If we let this show continue, our children will find a way to watch it. It is a drug that is that addictive.’ There are very few thins that i can honestly agree with. Yes kids will find a way to watch it, but the thing is that the targeted audience of Glee are teenagers (ages 14-19) and adults of all ages. While Glee is not intended for the WHOLE family, The Secret Life. is a show for kids ages 10-18 and is shownn on ABC FAMILY!!!
In this show not only is there sex and pegnancy, but the producers overly encouraged the view of Ricky, the father of Amy’s child, as a guy who will openly sleep around with any girl who asks. As if that wasn’t enough Ricky’s father is a DRUG DEALER AND A REOCCURING CONVICT. Throughout the entire first season people constantly tell Amy that she shouldn’t have Ricky’s baby, and thatshe should get an abortion. I don’t know about you,but to me this show doesn’t seem to be morally right, and i say that as not only a proudly baptised and confirmd catholic girl,but also a girl in whom attened a private catholic grade school for 9 years, and currently attends a private catholic high school.
Katie, yes Mr. Schuester is married, yes he falls in love with Emma, but no the producers and of Glee are NOT trying to make affairs and adultery look glamorous. The producers of Glee do intentionally make Mrs. Schuester seem like, as YOU said, “the ditzy, clingy wife, making viewers WANT Emma to end up with him,” because this elementally characterization adds to the plot for that particular season. This is not only used in multiple movies and tv series, but it is also the MOST WIDELY USED way to distinguish characters in BOOKS too! For example, look at Mike Newton from the Twilight Saga, which i’m SURE you have read. Stephanie Meyers intentionally made him a very ordinary, unexciting, and kind of ditzy in order to intensify the attraction between Bella and Edward. The only reason the Mr. Schuester was still with his wife was because while he was considering getting a divorce, she told him that she was pregnant in order to try to bring her and her husband back together. Later we learn that she was never pregnant! Now when you say that you “might just think having an affair is okay, it’s glamorous, it’s all about the romance and when it disappears you move on to the next person… when you’re in a relationship, keep looking over your shoulder for someone better…” what you don’t realize is that Mr. Schuester tried to fight his attraction to Emma only because he felt that it was his OBLIGATION to his wife and supposed un born child. Knowing that he felt it was an obligation shows that he had no real interest in staying in that relationship and that he was only staying because he thought that there was a child, that he was going to be responsible for, on the way. Only when Mr. Schuester found out the truth did HE express how he felt, but unlike Mr. Schuester, Emma constantly shows that she likes Mr. Schuester.
I don’t see why you feel that Glee is discriminating against Christians, or as you said ‘shifting the hate onto Christians.’ Further more, what does it matter if the director, producer, screen writer, ect. is gay? Just because someone is gay, DOESN’T mean that tey dislike Christians. In today’s world there are gay Christians, just as there are gay Jews, Hidus, Muslims, ect., but as you can probably guess they are not widely broadcasted. So for the record it isn’t fair to assume that just because someone is gay they dislike christians. Now i know that there are those homosexual people who don’t exactly support the Christian Church, but when you sit back and look at the facts you will see that if nothing else the Christian Church, let alone the Christian community, discriminate agianst HOMOSEXUALS! Personally i am not offended by the idea of same-sex marriage, which i’m not trying to say that you are, but Christian Churches are the biggest opposing force against this issue.
If nothing else this show is one of the very few that is open to diversity and equallity. I personally see very few references to discrimination. I have to admit that there are some but they come in the form of stupid jokes for passer-bys in the hallway. But here’s the thing, NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO you will hear comments and jokes thatcan be taken as racist and discriminatory, wheather its a public school or a private school.
but hey i gues ignorance is bliss
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Dear Upperclassman,
Thank you for the essay. Unfortunately I don’t have time to watch every tv show, particularly not those daytime kiddie shows. And I’m not some rich liberal who can afford your fancy cable box so no, I don’t have MTv. Are you asking me to review this show, The Secret Life of the Teenager? Because it sort of sounds like you are. Why would I want to watch that trash? Pregnant drug dealers sounds like the worst thing imaginable.
I have to admit I am a much older man and your pop culture references go right over my head. The “Twilight” series is something I have not come across. I am not ashamed to admit I spend my nights reading Christian blogs and my Bible. I don’t care for vampires.
In general, after reading your lengthy comment, I must confess I was a bit sad. You seem to be giving a lot of advice about pregnancy and marriage and boys. Aren’t you a little too young to know about these things? Maybe you shouldn’t be watching all this television unmonitored. I really think the best solution here is for you to forward this article to your Mom so she can read it and understand the dangerous programs that you’ve become insanely obsessed with. I just hope you’re not dating boys already. Maybe your Mom will give you chores to keep you busy and away from the tv room.
Let me just add that I was very impressed at how well your letter was written, the complexity of your sentence structure and your word choice. You clearly are very intelligent and I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch. So, you definitely have a grand base of intellect on which to build on in the future. And I think it’s great you want to express you ideas in well-formed paragraphs, essay-style and not just through emotion-icons and chat room texts. The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.
Blessings on you!
Stephenson Billings
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Stephenson, I’m a 15 year-old male, been in Catholic school for 10 years now, and am proud of my faith. You could say I’m a liberal republican, or vice-versa a conservative democrat. So my first question is how do you know she is a democrat? Because she has a cable box? Because she supports rights for Homosexuals? You know it is possible to be a Christian Republican who supports equality for homosexual couples.
Second, The Secret Life of the American Teenager airs at 8 PM on ABC Family. First of, that’s not daytime. Second, I’m so sorry to hear that you can’t watch the show because you do not own a cable box. But, you do have an internet connection and obviously you are tech-savvy. Luckily, you can watch full episodes for free on abcfamily.com. Feel free to check them out sometime. Oh wait…the time issue. My advice would be to take a little time by stop gay-bashing for awhile to watch this show and compare it to Glee. It might turn out you find nothing wrong with it. But that’s your descion to make. I don’t think there are any homosexual themes in the show so you should be fine. It’s just drugs and sex, you should be ok with that.
Third, You think she’s obsessed with these programs? Oh the irony…
Lastly, I would like to thank you for responding to these messages with your input. I may not agree with it, but that’s my opinion. However, I would like you to open your mind to diversity. Jesus taught us to welcome all as our own. The Bible does speak out against homosexuality, but do you honestly think Jesus would appreciate your intolerance? But hey, maybe I am wrong about all this. We all have different interpretations of the Bible, and this is mine. “Do unto others as you would have them to to you.” Luke 6:31…Try that sometime.
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“Aren’t you a little too young to know about these things?”
Excuse me??? Upperclassman is 15 years old! I certainly hope that she knows about pregnancy, marriage, and boys by now! Judging by her age, she’s obviously begun menstruating. How can you be so asinine as to imply that a pubescent girl shouldn’t know what pregnancy is??? Kids as young as 4 know what pregnancy is, idiot! Kids usually learn about marriage at around that time, as well. And most likely they’ve discovered what a boy is by that age is as well, unless their parents have been keeping them locked in the basement or in a nunnery for their entire life!
“I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch.”
Hate to break it to you, but kids these days grow out of the “total dumbass” stage much earlier than they did back in the Bronze Age. Nowadays if a child older than age 6 is eating crayons there’s something wrong. Now please go crawl back under your rock and make some cave drawings for us.
“The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.”
And what exactly makes being a republican so much more appropriate for a 15 year old, you fat fuck?
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Allright now, I’m confused. Who is this “she” you’re referring to? I said cable box because “Upperclassman” was talking about MTv, that’s a cable show! And Teenager Family or whatever that show is called, I just assumed it was an after school special… I don’t even know if they still air those things. Anyway, why would I want to watch a sex and drugs show? What kind of lunatic are you? It’s not nice to befuddle your elders like this.
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Claire, you’re a bit overcharged if you really think it’s appopriate for 15 year olds to know all about marriage. I don’t know what they do in Liberal communities, but from where I’m from it’s a bit obscene for kids to know all about breast feeding and all that.
As for child development, I disagree. it seems like today kids are kids for much longer than when I was a youngster. Kids I knew helped out on their family farms as soon as they could walk practically. You’d be surprised how little these kids were when they learned to ride a horse. On the other hand, today children sleep in their parent’s attics and get money until they’re about 30 years old. Look at this so-called “hipster” style of 20 year olds today. It’s prolonger adolescence. Kids just having fun and doing nothing serious with their lives, avoiding marriage to have all sorts of sex all over the place and the drugs, etc. while their hardworking parents keep sending those checks to Austin Texas. It’s a crying shame what these children get away with. I’m sure your MTv shows that lifestyle every week.
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Well, from what I’ve heard about this website, it’s either the biggest Christian extremist website ever, or a great satire that rivals “The Onion”. Although I am a Christian myself, I find this article hilarious IF you are writing this as a satire. If you’re completely serious, I hope you escape your bubble of ignorance sometime and see the world for what it really is…And for others reading this “article”, please understand not all Christians are like this. Most of us our pretty chill, and don’t go gay bashing on Saturday nights.
So Stephenson, I’m guessing you won’t respond to this now that I think it’s a satire…but feel free to do so.
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Stephenson,
You seem to be giving a lot of advice about pregnancy and marriage and boys. Aren’t you a little too old to know about these things? Maybe you shouldn’t be watching all this television unmonitored. I really think the best solution here is for you to forward this article to your Mom so she can read it and understand the dangerous programs that you’ve become insanely obsessed with. I just hope you’re not dating boys already. Maybe your Mom will give you chores to keep you busy and away from the tv room.
Let me just add that I was very impressed at how well your letter was written, the complexity of your sentence structure and your word choice. You clearly are very intelligent and I think when I was 15 I was still eating crayons and watching the Brady Bunch. So, you definitely have a grand base of intellect “ON WHICH TO BUILD ON” in the future. And I think it’s great you want to express you ideas in well-formed paragraphs, essay-style and not just through emotion-icons and chat room texts. The only drawback, of course, is that you’re a democrat and that’s not really appropriate for someone your age.
Blessings on you!
Sara Barker
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=100001366922231&ref=ts
I did a little investigating before i wrote a reply.
I think someone made a fake facebook page for you, it says:
“Television- Jersey Shore, Jesus of Nazareth, Pastor Greg, The Worship Network, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Strangers With Candy”
but you said you don’t have cable and that you “don’t have MTV”, so you obviously have never watched Jersey Shore(a show on MTV)
OR…you lie
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I’m just wondering why this show has to reflect Christian values? I’m not a Christian and don’t want to watch Christian TV. I’m not American either (what was that about ‘musky foreign thrills?’) and here in the UK Glee is screened at 9pm, which defines it as a programme for adults. My young children don’t get to watch it, but when they are in their teens I’d be happy for them to see it. It deals responsibly with moral issues and promotes support and acceptance of your peers.
Speaking of ‘acceptance’, I also think you have some issues with repressed homosexuality. Why else would you include those lingering descriptions of male actors soaping themselves up (I can remember ONE very short scene of Finn singing in the shower) and wearing tight clothes? I’m a woman in my thirties and I’ve never noticed any of that! If you could just let go of your extreme religious views and seek psychiatric help you have a chance of coming to terms with who you are. There’s nothing to be ashamed of in being gay. One of the many good things about Glee is that it strives to show this.
I really did wonder if this was a spoof at first (The Golden Girls corrupting youth? Pfft!). I feel sad for you and the other people who think this way. What closed little lives you lead in the service of a non-existent god. You can’t even enjoy a piece of entertainment for what it is (‘The songs slow up the plot’? Hilarious!).
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pERSONALLY STEPHENSON, i THINK THAT ANY BODY WHO CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WROTE IS MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF.
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Sex ed is pretty much standard issue in schools nowadays and that starts at sixth grade. Anybody over 11 is old enough to know about this stuff.
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Why must you talk down to people? “Hoping” they haven’t started dating boys yet? Have you ever thought that maybe she dates girls? Also, “rich liberal” is a very defining word. I know I’m liberal, but I’m definitely not on the rich scale. Yet, why is it that I have cable? Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself because you’re basing them on the words people say and not who they actually are. Just like how you base your opinions on a show that shows the reality of high school. Quite frankly, maybe you should visit a high school from a diverse area. Then maybe you could understand where the new generation, my generation, is coming from.
You also mentioned earlier that you’ve not seen every episode. I think that you have no entitlement to judge a show.
And I’d like to ask one question before I finish. Why is being gay wrong? Enlighten me so maybe then I can believe in a religion that is so hateful towards various good people. People that deserve more than what they are given.
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I’m sorry I didn’t read the other replies to your post so I’m sorry if I double cover something.
First of all, Mr. Schuster is no longer married, he was separated and now is divorced. When the show first started, it broke my heart that he was because he and Emma seemed so perfect for each other but I didn’t want him to be the guy who would leave his wife for another woman (and didn’t think he was that kind of guy or that Emma would want him to be). But he left his wife because she betrayed him, with foresight and intention. This does make me a little uncomfortable, I’ll admit that. But I also think that it makes someone wanting Mr. Schuster and Emma to end up together a little more acceptable.
Secondly, I very much respect your decision to stop watching the show because of your morals. I do agree that it portrays Christians poorly, as do nearly all TV shows. And I’m not happy about this. I tend to watch shows even when I’m not happy with the way they portray Christians and applaud you for having stronger conviction than I do.
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I have been a “Gleek” for about two months now, and I cannot believe you are saying such outrageous things about it. Of course parents shouldn’t let kids under 14 or 15 watch shows that involve adult content such as sex, etc., but that includes almost every show out there, including some cartoons!
Anyway, many of the things you say are offensive, wrong, and misinformed.
The show is a musical comedy. It’s not supposed to reflect real life, and anyone who thinks this show is meant to do that is totally missing the point.
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Hey there,
Let me start with this: Mr. Billings, you have a truly annoying tactic of ignoring the main points in peoples posts and either correcting their grammar or citing the bible. I’m not perfect. This isn’t a false reality. I will make some grammatical mistakes, and for that I apologize.
Secondly, i am not a fan of Glee. I think it’s a pretty bad show. I think that the musical numbers carry Glee. Most of the actors have outstanding voices, and the arrangements of the songs always bring a new dimension to my earlier opinion of the original (be it Queen or John Lennon). However, the story does feel very contrived. The acting is sub-par at best. I loved Lea Michele in Spring Awakening, but I think she falls short onscreen. The writing and script are downright abysmal, and I just don’t like the actor who plays Finn. I’m not sure why; he just kind of annoys me. Those are my personal reasons for not liking or watching this show.
However, to say that it should be taken off of the air is bordering on insanity.
24 is a show on Fox. You may have heard of it. The main character is absolutely brutal and, in the earlier seasons, tortures without remorse.
Family Guy is another Fox show. I, personally, think that Family Guy is hilarious. It satires suburban life in a way that other comparable shows like The Simpsons and South Park fail to do. However, it is way more inappropriate than the tame, music loving Glee.
Furthermore, as someone who has had the arts play a very important role in their lives, I am extremely disappointed in your tone when mentioning the arts. Theater, or theatre (I grew up in the United States and learned the ‘er’ version), demands well-formed individuals. Athletics does not. Theater is meant to put a mirror up to the world and show the world what it really is. Athletics, although I love watching sports, is meaningless entertainment. I’m okay with that. I watched the vast majority of the World Cup. I watch baseball, basketball, and hockey. I played frisbee in high school. They’re fun things, but they mean nothing.
By now you’ve probably stopped reading my post because you’ve found the grammatical flaw that you will comment on and there’s no need to read anything else. I’ve tried not to repeat what others have said, but I didn’t read the entire comment thread so I’m sorry for my repetitions.
One of my last points is this. Glee is a television program. Television is a business. The writers of Glee write a show that they think will captivate audiences. They wanted people to be waiting minutes before each new show aired on their couches with drink and food ready. They wanted people to have parties and play the Glee soundtrack, to have discussions about whether or not a character made the right choice.
The writers succeeded.
I had more to say, but I’ve forgotten it.
I found the homosexual jargon to be outrageous. I am not a homosexual. I ask anyone who reads this and is a homosexual to forgive me when I say that the idea of engaging in homosexual acts repulses me. However, I don’t care about other people doing it. I don’t like mayonnaise. From the taste to the consistency it repulses me. But, Mr. Billings I will not be upset if you put mayo on your sandwich. I don’t want it on mine, but we all eat different sandwiches, don’t we?
This will probably ruin all of the points I made earlier so please try and separate the angry rant from the hopefully cohesive points. Fuck you. You are a homophobic piece of trash who prances around spreading lies. If “god” really does exist he does a shit job of creating a world in which there are so many terrible types of people. He’s also an asshole. I will now pretend for a bit that “god” exists. I have hemophilia. If you don’t know what that is, there’s this handy website called Google. Severe hemophilia, type A with inhibitors. That wasn’t a sentence, sorry. That’s about as bad as it gets in hemophilia. My brother has the exact same thing. Three years ago he was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. Since then my two sisters have also been diagnosed with the same. My parents have to wake up every night at 3 AM to test my sisters blood sugar levels and make sure that they haven’t skyrocketed. My parents’ group of friends is falling apart due to divorces and deaths. And you want them to worry about this shit.
I just saw a link to another of your articles at the bottom of my screen and I’d like you to know that before stumbling upon this article I masturbated. Whoopdee doo. It was great. You know what’s even better? Sex. God, I love sex. I’m not married, but I have sex with my girlfriend all the time. Oh and drugs! They’re so much fun.
I’m ranting; I know.
I’d just like you to know that your bullshit Christian extremism had made me want to take a pipe wrench and bash you in the face with it. I know not all Christians are like this so I would really like for those out there not to take this the wrong way. This isn’t a Christian hate post. This is a Stephenson Billings is a fucking twat post.
Merry Chanukah
In case I wasn’t clear:
“That’s it sir
You’re leaving
The crackle of pigskin
The dust and the screaming
The yuppies networking
The panic, the vomit
The panic, the vomit
God loves his children, God loves his children, yeah!”
-Thom Yorke
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Thank you for the heartfelt comment, my friend! I do indeed keep tabs on those other shows.
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Oh I’m sure you will, seeing as how you’re a fan of Jersey Shore.
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I am truly terrified for this country. I believe there are groups of people that need to open their eyes to what is going on around them.
Stephenson Billings, wake up and smell the coffee.
1)Homosexuality is real and needs to be talked about. Instead of blasting this show and shielding your kids from the realities of the real world, why not watch this show with your children? That way you can bring up your hateful views on it.
2)Athletics are important. But what about those kids who sit on the bench? In band, music, and theatre NO ONE sits the bench. Everyone gets a chance to shine.
3)Of course Glee has excellent choreographed impromptu dance numbers. IT’s A TV SHOW! You want to teach your kids reality? Put on Cops…oh wait you want to make them believe prostitutes and drug addicts don’t exist.
4)The actress who plays Rachel is 24..clearly you don’t know what real women look like.
I will continue to pray for you and your children because your disgusting overprotective, hateful views are bound to suppress your children from becoming hard working, successful, logical adults.
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I also am appalled at how untrue this post is. The show does have homosexual characters, so what? It does have obviously rehearsed and polished musical numbers, so what?
The show is an episodic musical in the grand tradition of musicals; i.e. Sound of Music, South Pacific, Wizard of Oz, etc.
It has great messages about teamwork and overcoming clique mindsets, something that is far too prevalent in today’s high schools.
Far too often Christians are willing to say “It’s got homosexuals in it, therefore it MUST be immoral.”
This is so wrong!
The person who wrote this article has obviously seen a fourth of one episode. I can’t remember but ONE instance of seeing the locker room showers and I’ve seen each episode at least twice!
Please be better informed next time you review something.
And by the way, the Golden Girls making men gay…really?
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No offense, sir, but you’re synopsis of the show is quite often wrong and lacks any credibility whatsoever. First of all, there was only one shower scene. ONE. With one guy, singing to himself. He wasn’t lathering himself with other guys.
Second of all, I really have never noticed many shirtless guys running around.
Third, your comment on athletes getting full scholarships to universities: Are you aware of the statistics showing some of those athletes to be undeserving of full scholarships? Even if they actually got good grades in high school, the chances that they actually show up for a college class is very unlikely. The chances that they will end up raping someone, or cheating on an exam however, are extremely high.
Fourth, Victor Matlin? Try Victor Garber. He shows up in maybe two episodes tops, and he is hugging his son because they have a healthy relationship. Yes, he was in Titanic, but he’s also a very accomplished stage, tv, and movie star. He is living testament that kids like the characters on Glee CAN do what they dream of doing.
Perhaps you should try educating yourself on something before you totally misinform people on what its really about. I always thought writers and journalists were supposed to be credible, although it doesn’t seem that way in this instance…
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this post is a joke. its the most biased piece of bullshit i’ve read in a while. stop being so narrow minded and actually watch the tv show. there’s a lot worse out there.
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Thank you so much! I didn’t know Lea Michele was 30. I thought she just turned 25 this past weekend…? Etc, etc…
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Icould not agree with what you said more. Try actually WATCHING the show before you go and start critisizing(sp?) it. You have no right to judge what the writer Ryan Murphy, and all the other people on the show do. It seems to me that someone should get their priorities straightened out, and learn how not to judge a book by it’s cover. So, I(and many other people) suggest you get your facts straight. Alright? Kaaaaay thaaaaaanks(: Have a nice(just kidding, don’t) day!
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This author is a complete joke. The amount of items that are wrong with his assumptions is mind blowing.
First of all,(and I will try not to miss any but the lord knows I probably will) being gay IS NOT SOMETHING ONE CHOOSES! To say that one “choose” to be gay and needs to stop and think “oh wait i love Jesus…ill stop being gay” is insane. Besides, whats to say the guy even beliefs in Christ?
Secondly, Matthew Morris, the actor who plays Mr.Shue is not gay!!
Third, the actor who plays the Kurt Hummel IS gay and they did NOT force him to kiss, his tv boyfriend Blaine, he said they were both completely comfortable with it.
Also what the hell is your obsession with the Golden Girls? Oh wait were you one of the boys they “turned” gay, and now have to hide your homosexuality because “you love jesus?”
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oh no a show does not follow your belif system? IT MUST BE EVIL!!!!!!
“Should parents be concerned about any subtext of adult themes and situations?”
well seeing as it’s a not a kids show…no?
at least no more worried than what effect it might have if they watch carebears for 20 hours…
“the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.”
let’s make a compromise. the bible get the smae treatment and we have a deal.
“All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life.”
oh no never heard that before have we?
“This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”+”This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” = WTF CAN YOU AT LEAST AGREE WITH YOUSELF?
also it’s a tv show…they aren’t exactly know for their realism
“Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?”
or maybe they were aiming at the female audience? but no you’re right it’s far more likely they want to apeal to gays than to girls right?
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers”
and the bible has to much conflicting logic. whats your point? that you dislike the show = it’s evil?
“They come across as trying too hard with their exaggerated facial expressions and hip posturings, the soaring voices ranges. They’ve clearly been coached. The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
want me to go on about a rant on realism in the bible? allright: jesus did about 1000 things that can’t be done by anyone.
but then again like this it’s not the real world and therefor it fucking doesn’t matter.
“Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.””
and back to my opening statement so sorry taht some people in this world don’t agree with you. want a fucking cookie? maybe there isn’t those things in it because the creators don’t belive homosexuality is an illness? no actually i’d love for there to be such a charecter…cause i’d be able to see him get smashed in the face by the people on the show who are sane.
i’m sorry but the fair play you talk about just don’t work that way. i mean it’s not like the bible presents the idea of god not exsisting either? where’s the fair play in that?
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Completely inaccurate, hateful, and full of assumptions that are extremely false.
I understand your beliefs cause you to dislike this show, but next time, make your argument more credible by staying away from exaggerations and try to get all of your facts correct.
There are so many things I would like to discuss, but let me say one thing.
Encouraging kids to “have fun in the arts” is not a bad thing. First of all, Glee does NOT tell kids to quit school, and quit their future for the arts. It is telling them to use the arts as a way to find happiness in HIGH SCHOOL. The characters on Glee are who they are because of people like you who condemn anyone who is different. High School is not one big, happy place. There are students who really struggle with being different and need to find what makes them happy. Glee is about “opening yourself up to joy” (a quote directly from the show). The kids in Glee club are HAPPY there, which makes high school a better place for them. I “had fun in the arts” when I was in high school. It taught me how to be a team player, to love myself, and created an incredible support system between my peers and me. At the same time, I graduated in the Top 10% of my class, got accepted into all 8 of the colleges I applied to, recieved academic scholarship, and am attending a top school on the east coast. Yes, “having fun in the arts” really made me a failure in my life..
Also, Glee is a TELEVISION show. Which means- IT IS GOING TO BE FAKE. You said it’s not believable, but the whole purpose of TV is to ENTERTAIN. It is also a MUSICAL show, which means they are going to break out into song. Breaking out into song is NEVER believable, but that’s okay, because it’s not supposed to be real. It is on a network specifically for tv shows like this. It’s not on a history channel, a documentary channel, or an education channel.
Hopefully you will learn to not displace your anger about parts of the show (i.e. homosexuality, teen pregnancy, etc.) on other aspects that are reasonable, because you just sound ridiculous and dramatic. You really do need to get your facts straight, because the majority of your post is made up (for example, in no part of the show do men do things in the bathroom). I got the impression that you actually believed the lies you wrote.
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When the rapture comes you Faggots`s
can dance dance and sing all you want
on your way to hell!
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Cool story, bro.
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You are SO a true Christian. Loving the hate. Jesus would totally say something like that.
(note: heavy sarcasm)
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Personally, I really don’t think using slang derogatory language helps the Christian cause much. It’s immature and lowers yourself to the level of homosexual activists. Corinthians is a much more reliable reference for speaking out on this topic:
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”–1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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Slang derogatory language? It’s called sarcasm. And furthermore, I don’t appreciate the Bible bashing.
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I was commenting specifically about “TrueChristian’s” use of the word “f*ggot”, not about you Kevin.
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First of all, pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation? Welcome to the everyday present, were you behind a rock for how long? Not even in Jesus time was everything as perfect as you dream.
Also,It’s funny that Corinthians 6:9-10 actually uses the word “Homosexual” when the first known appearance of the term homosexual in print is found in a 1869 German pamphlet “143 des Preussischen Strafgesetzbuchs und seine Aufrechterhaltung als 152 des Entwurfs eines Strafgesetzbuchs für den Norddeutschen Bund”.
As well, gay locker room orgies? Wild male sex desires? I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom? Are you for real? I mean, come on, if that’s someone’s fantasy it’s yours because non of that things have happened on the show, and I highly doubt it will ever happen. Is it may be that you’re actually a closeted religion-obsessed homosexual? Too much golden girls?
Besides, Kevin McHale (Artie, the guy in the wheelchair) do actually sings, he was part of a boyband, and I don’t get why you mock someone that is interpreting a minority that should be respected and admired for their determination and courage? A sidekick or catchphrase? Holy rusted metal batman! What about no?
About the Jewish thing, how much hate your little Christian heart can handle? the homophobia, sexism and misogyny were not enough so you added some religion intolerance?
And finally, God is about love and respect. I highly doubt that God hate gay or Jewish, or any other people. I really think and hope that God actually loves us for who we are with all or imperfections and is not a hate-trowing I’m-the-only-one-with-the-truth kind of guy that you are. God bless you my friend.
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The Bible wasn’t written in either German or English so your point is moot. 1869? Do you really think the gays didn’t exist before then? Stop posting your nonsense “factoids” you picked up in some second rate college liberal studies class.
Furthermore, I do not hate the Jews. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating one Jewish man as an icon for today’s young Christians. See:
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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Dear Xtians,
Please stop trying to ban and destroy all the things you don’t agree with.
You wouldn’t want me and all my fellow high-IQ atheists to ban and destroy YOU, would you?
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Lea Michelle, the actor who plays Rachel, is 23.
I’m not even going to touch the rest of this.
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u say male prostitues will not be allowed to enter heaven…does that mean female prostitutes will be?
btw this article is totally offensive to not only the various sections of society that are completely blasted by u but also to the true christians who believe that when jesus said “love thy neighbour” (i.e. everybody) he actually meant it.
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You are the one on your way to hell with the hate that comes from you.
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We can? HOT DIGGETY!
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Really? you stupid fuck
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Um, Glee couldn’t even SAY the word ‘abortion’, let alone present it to the audience.
And everybody else has already said what I’m thinking, so yeah.
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I don’t know exactly the episode you’re referring to, but clearly the show deals with issues such as having an unwanted child and teen pregnancy. When the blond girl student gets pregnant, the first thing she does is consult Planned Parenthood, which is an abortion clinic. It was all very obvious for anyone who has seen the show! And yes, this issue is constantly repeated and dealt with in other episodes. While they might not say “abortion” out loud, we all know it’s there.
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If you think the show needs to be immediately shut down and no longer broadcast because it’s so immoral, what are you doing watching it?
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I’m an Investigative Journalist and an adult. My career is reviewing and learning about tough subjects and then translating that into articles that shed light on uncomfortable corners of our culture for other adults to learn from. I hope that parents can learn from my work to help their children grow into decent, loving, moral people!
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Dude, what kind of a fucking moron are you? Just because you were tied to a chair and forced to watch Jimmy Swaggart as a child and it turned you into a religious prick doesn’t mean that everyone else is so empty headed.
Do you even live in the world you’re commenting on? I don’t really think so. But since I don’t have the intellect of a soda bottle collector and investigative journalist (nosy body voyeur), that mey explain why your “logic” escapes me…
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Being an investigative journalist requires that you actually do some research and not make narrow minded false accusations about something you don’t understand. If you would have watched the entire first half of the season (which you haven’t, as stated in the comments), and come to these conclusions based on actual episodes, then your story would have had some credibility. Calling yourself an investigative journalist is a disgrace to the career field.
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plannded parenthood is pretty much every teens first response when first getting pregnant. and quinn is also a conservative christian.
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You couldnt be more wrong, once again. Quinn said she would not have an abortion. She made on mistake, but she still is a Christian and said that having an abortion is out of the question. Finn(her boyfriend), was the one who suggested it, and she said no because she does not belive in abortion.
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What are you talking about? The girl (Quinn) never went to any clinic. The only time Planned Parenthood was ever mentioned was when one of the adult characters offered to take the girl and her boyfriend (or something along those lines).
That and Finn’s asking “Are you going to get a..” were the ONLY mentions on the entire show of abortion.
Maybe in your sick, twisted mind the possibility of an abortion is “always there”.
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While the cheerleader’s first response was to turn to a clinic, please note she chooses NOT to abort, but to carry the child and give it up for adoption…a testament to the fact she is part of a Christian family…I find that to ultimately be a positive message.
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To clarify, Quinn doesn’t even go to a clinic…she is asked if she was going to go and she says no…..
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“I don’t know exactly the episode you’re referring to, but clearly the show deals with issues such as having an unwanted child and teen pregnancy. When the blond girl student gets pregnant, the first thing she does is consult Planned Parenthood, which is an abortion clinic. It was all very obvious for anyone who has seen the show! And yes, this issue is constantly repeated and dealt with in other episodes. While they might not say “abortion” out loud, we all know it’s there.”
SHE NEVER went into an abortion clinic, when the main guy asked if she was going to get an abortion she CLEARLY said no. Dont base the whole arguement on a show that YOU CLEARLY have not watched, and understand nothing about. the show is realistic enough, clearly, you went into high school in the WRONG era of time. And by the way HOMOSEXUALITY isnt spreadable, like mayo on bread, people arent lead into the gay lifestyle. spekaing of gay lifestyles there is more than one type of gay life style, just like there are different types of life styles for different types of people. NOT all gay men are sexualized freaks who bang every man they see. some are just as reserved as a republican man, and others just seek a relationship.
Get your facts straight before blatantly attacking something.
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. Some Planned Parenthood facilities offer abortion services, but not all. Planned Parenthood is a health care provider that offers birth control, pre-natal care, testing for std’s, etc.on a sliding scale for women of all economic levels.
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Oh my! I cannot believe that you actually think Planned Parenthood is an abortion clinic! I have personally been there for many things, but an abortion has never been on the list. They supply birth control and lady checkups mostly. Their idea is their name PLANNED Parenthood. They know teenagers and young adults are going to do things in private and they want those people to be SMART about pregnancy.
As for the whole article, it is crap. Apparently someone who has a lot of time on their hands and a lot of hate in their heart wrote this. This person obviously is not as close to God as he should be. I may not be the most religious person, but I know my God is a loving and forgiving God. He loves all his children. (He made them, you know.)
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I agree my God is also loving and forgiving. However, part of that is repentance and working to follow Him. No where in the Bible does it state just believing in Him is enough. So the fact that she didn’t abort because she is partially a christian is ridiculous. This isn’t something that you can partially do. That being said I have never seen the show and am against all of the bashing on this blog. Part of being a Christian is lifting others up and when necessary feeling them in on the truth. It is very clear none of the words on this site are meant to lift anyone up. No wonder there are so many atheists out there….
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Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic. As a Christian, I am appalled when I come across completely false, fear-mongering articles like this one. If you can not even take the time to check basic information (Lea Michele’s age, the various services offered by Planned Parenthood, whether or not the statistics behind your Golden Girls claim are sound…) then why should anyone take you seriously? If your goal was to caution Christians against a harmful social influence, perhaps you should have warned them about ignorant bloggers who wave their opinions about wildly as if they are fact.
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I don’t remember Quinn going to Planned Parenthood, but it was certainly the right decision for a scared, pregnant teenager. As a former employee, I know that PP offers NOT ONLY abortion services, but prenatal health care, counseling, and adoption advice.
On another note, this is the most unintentionally hilarious article I’ve read in quite a while. Keep it up Billings – and all you right-wingers – who lighten my day with your misinformed polemics.
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I do not remember Planned Parenthood being mentioned at all. Even if it were, it’s not “an abortion clinic,” though I suppose they do perform abortions there. They also give people who couldn’t otherwise afford them, resources to deal with parenthood. And the “blonde girl” won’t even allow the word “contraception” to be mentioned, she was certainly never even CONSIDERING an abortion (in fact not understanding contraception due to abstinence only education is probably her problem)
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Riiiiight. Because the correct decision on the blonde girl’s part would have been to have the baby, hastily marry the father to “make it right,” bring the child into a sham marriage between two people who can’t support it (financially, emotionally, or otherwise), and set both parents and child up for a lifetime of failure. But I guess that’s just how you red-state Evangelicals handle that sort of thing.
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UMM HELLLLO!!!!! She said from the beginning she was GIVING IT UP FOR ADOPTION! geez you are ignorant.
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I’m sorry; that’s not true. I just re-watched the episode today (it’s called “Preggers” and it’s in the beginning of season one). When Quinn tells Finn she’s pregnant, he asks her: “Are you going to get a…?” (not saying abortion) and she immediately says no. Later in the episode, Finn confides in his teacher, who asks if there’s anything he can do to help and suggests putting them in touch with Planned Parenthood. Finn says that’s not even up for discussion. Quinn never consults Planned Parenthood and never considers an abortion.
This whole article was annoying, but it’s truly your comments that make me incensed. Please, Mr. Billings, try to open your mind. I know that it can be hard, but I earnestly ask you to do so. Read some books, maybe in the fields of sociology or women’s studies. I know that to you these may seem like propaganda or some sort of falsehood, but I think that they would help you to understand people who are not like you. Opening your mind can be difficult as I have experienced in trying to break down my personal biases, including some racism, sexism, and homophobia (tough even as a lesbian woman), but having a more open mind and understanding more walks of life can be liberating and truly rewarding. I urge you to listen when others speak; if they are being rude, ask them to open their minds as well. Maybe with this attitude, we can turn some lives around. We can understand each other better as human beings. Please consider this.
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Wow.
Never in my life have I’ve been insulted that much.
Let me give you a little insight. I have been involved in the arts all my life. I am currently in COLLEGE studying Musical and Technical Theater. I currently have a 3.5 GPA and I am quite satisfyed with the way I am living and what I am planning on doing for the rest of my life.
You did not even mention the point of the show. It’s a show about the underdogs, about those who were never really appreciated for their God-Given Talents in school. Thay are the people who were put down and not considered “normal”. The show sends the message of being proud of who you are no matter what imperfections one may have.
About the show in general. Have you heard them live? I have and they all sing just as well as it is percieved. Yes, at times the lip-synching is off, but that’s part of the show.
And ABORTION?! Where in the world did that come from? I don’t even think they mentioned that in the show at all! Know the facts first!
About the sports: You are acting EXACTLY like the people on the show, that sports regn over all and the rest can just forget it. My sport is MARCHING BAND and I am SOOO proud of that! At least in my sport it requires THINKING!
It was one of the most insulting and unresarched article I have read.
I agree with the majority. Watch the show before you comment.
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Dear Tracy, I am sorry that you took my news article as a personal insult (what a strange thing to say!) but it was not directly at you. I think it’s fantastic that you’re in college! I am a huge supporter of advanced education for both sexes.
I have watched this show, almost most of the episodes in fact. That should be clear to anyone reading my article with all the facts and references. I stand by my depiction. This is an article meant for parent by the way. Adults need to have a broad, informed opinion on topics. This is not a fan site! This is a Christian website offering wisdom and perspective for adults, and in this case adults who have children who want to know what and why they’re doing things.
You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.
As for the sports aspect, I am a former high school football athlete. It taught me many things and showed me the wonderful possibilities of the world. It also keep me healthy and fit, helped me socialize with other men and taught me to respect the authority of my elders. This is a lesson definitely missing from Glee.
Well, I am glad to have brought a new perspective to you!
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First of all, I did not say anything about my gender. I said in what field I am studying which is in the arts. I simply stated what I am to show what I did and the potenial of what I can do when I “have fun with the arts”, and see where it has gotten me.
“You claim this show is about underdogs, yet many of the main characters are football players or cheerleaders! How are they the “underdogs”? The show spends a lot of time focusing on them, trying to convince us they all want nothing more than to be part of some musical troupe. I think that’s just absurd. Also, many of the characters are adults, the teachers, so they can’t be underdogs.”
Everyone in the show is an underdog in a way:
Finn- he might be a popular football player, but he has had this passion for music but was too afraid to show it until he got in. Also he is not the most intellegant person.
Rachel- She is ambitious and has amazing talent, but her personality is a flaw. She never said she was ugly. She actually says in a monologue that she thinks she is attractive, but she is busy trying to reach her dream. Yes, Kurt and Quinn comment on her clothing choice, but who doesn’t comment on everyone’s clothing? She is a great person with a good heart, but she relies too much on her talent to get what she wants. Also the actress that plays her, Lea Michele, is 23, not 30.
Kurt- he is described as the “fashionable soprano”. Well, you already know what his flaw is.
Mercedes, Tina, Artie- They all have their assets and their issues, like disability, social issues, and weight.
The three cheerios and the other two football players (Santana, Brittany, Quinn, Mike, Puck, and Matt) are underdogs too to even think and even join this club, knowing it could be social suicide.
How are the adults underdogs? Let’s see:
Emma (the guidance councelor)- She is a germaphobe and has issues being close to people (especially men). She is also shy and not many of her male co-workers see her as someone who is that datable.
Will- He might be a popular teacher, but stepping up to help this failing club is a great leap of faith and taking a risk. He is against many odds to do it and we see him overcome them by making them succeed.
So by being involved in the arts are you saying that I do not learn anything about respecting elders and being on a team?
I was involved in all branches of my performing arts department while in High School, I can tell you right now the lessons I have learned.
I have learned to be part of a team, that while it is nice at times to be a spotlight, in order to succeed you need to trust those on the journey with you and that all can succeed if you work together. You also learn disipline, espeically learning music, lines, and choreography. In that also RESPECTING YOUR ELDERS. They are there to help you succeed, and in order to help you in doing so, you you have to be respectful. Respect is the BIGGEST LESSON OF ALL. As my mother says “It takes all types of people to make this world go round.” And it’s true. If you walk into the chorus room, you might see just a group of singers. Little did you know that there were star athletes, drama geeks, valedictorian of the Senior class, and just regular average joes, people that might not just fit in. You learn to respect anyone and everyone, no matter who they are, where they are from, and what they believe in.
Also as a note, do you know the training it takes to be in marching band? A WHOLE TON and let me tell you it helps one to become fit and healthy. Also dancing is an AMZING form of exersize.
You also said you have seen SOME of the episodes. So you are saying that you have not seen all of them? Maybe you should bite your tongue and do so. In order to make a full analysis on a certin topic or materical, you need to fully research the topic.
Yes, I understand that this is a guide for parents, but not all parents will agree with you. It depends on the family and the maturity of the children in question, weither they think they can handle the show. I was watching R rated movies and shows like this since I was 7, and I am a straight-edged, responsible, RESPECTFUL, virgin. I have never smoked, I have never drank, and one of my biggest things that I value in life is respect.
Again, I apologize for my negative comments, but I believe this is insulting to anyone who is an underdog and who are involved in the arts.
~Tracy
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I apologise for any typos I may have.
And I also meant “flaw” like it is typed
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First, I want to say that, Stephenson, although I disagree with many of the points you have made in this article, I appreciate that you are attempting to present other viewpoints to parents out there. I’m sure there are many people who agree with your sentiments and took your article to heart. However, there is one issue I specifically want to address here.
I agree with Tracy re: arts in education. Stephenson, in this article, you discuss how Glee makes “the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process;” that they “posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton.” You continue by adding “Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.”
While I’m not sure of the accuracy of the statements about Glee, and I do believe your statements about athletics are accurate here, I think it is sad and unfortunate that you are using this as an argument in this article. Our country has an obsession with sports, often at the expense of art, music, and drama classes and clubs in high schools. The obsession continues into adulthood when professional athletes are paid tens of millions of dollars each year to “entertain” the masses. Professional musicians, on the other hand (I’m not talking about pop musicians) often struggle through their lives. Ever heard the term “starving artist”? While I do agree that athletics are important in education, I don’t believe that they should be pursued at the expense of the arts.
I will only focus on music here because that is the area with which I am personally familiar. Young adults who pursue music in college are not provided the wonderful opportunities that many athletes are. Athletes are provided full scholarships, moneys for books and housing, and other benefits because schools want their sports teams to win. They will shell out money to acquire athletes who will make that happen. Musicians are forced to resort to student loans piling up into the hundreds of thousands to be able to attend some of the great music schools in this country.
I am a music therapist – I use music in a school system with children who have developmental delays. Every day I see the benefits of music for children. I see how music can help develop their social skills, can help limit inappropriate behaviors and allow them to be more focused and ready to learn in the classroom. I also see how helpful music can be in teaching reading-readiness, increasing attention span, and learning concepts by aiding with memorization (think about learning the ABCs without the song). Students who take part in music learning have been shown to have higher IQs, better math scores, and more ability to focus, multi-task, and work together in a team. I can’t say this emphatically enough – MUSIC IS VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN!!!!
Please do not use your public forum here to further the misconception in our society that sports are the only way for children to attain a successful future. Please consider researching the benefits of a singing club before making a statement like “Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.” If I were you, I would only stick to writing opinionated articles covering topics about which I felt I was an expert. Maybe if you want to present an article to make parents think twice about letting their children watch a certain television show, just point out some things you have noticed. Suggest parents notice these things as well. Let people form their own opinions instead of shoving yours down your readers’ throats. Please consider looking beyond your own personal experience when writing such a strongly opinionated article like this one.
Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts.
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“I am a huge supporter of advanced education for both sexes.”
Wow. How very forward-thinking of you!
I was in the arts, not sports, in high school. I am a female. I am a lesbian. I graduated with honors and have a bachelors degree. I watched programming as a child that I’m sure you would think was Satan incarnate (i.e. Ren & Stimpy). And guess what? I’m happy, successful, and a Christian.
Are you ok? I fear the shock of such a possibility may have stopped your heart.
And for the record, your comment about how there’s “no alternative to the gay lifestyle presented,” there’s ONE gay student on the show, which means there are 10+ alternatives presented. Guess what? Gay people exist. It’s not a choice. It can’t be “cured.” We’re not going away, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
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@ Alicia…im absolutely astounded that you call yourself a Christian. You CLEARLY
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephen, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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“helped me socialize with other men”
Yes Stephenson, I’m sure this was probably your favorite part.
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WOW! Thanks so much for posting this, it has really made me want to watch Glee more than ever before!! I’ve never even thought about it, but you make it sound exciting and worth watching, so I’ll be telling everyone I know to watch Glee now because of this! Also, I feel that it’s time for me to propose to my wonderful girlfriend so we can be married. Like you said, marriage is beautiful and I’m ready to marry my girlfriend and have children!
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I understand sarcasm.
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Uhh…Congrats! Though I never mentioned anything about sarcasm in my post. I just realized that I should express my love for my girlfriend by taking it to the next level
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A show that emphasizes the importance of being comfortable with yourself (meaning both faults and strengths). Evil!
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Oh, and by “Victor Matlin” do you mean “Victor Garber?” If so, he’s an openly gay actor with a long and distinguished career in theatre who has played a spy, lawyers, Liberace, a “lady’s man” actor, a Puritan, an alien, and Jesus.
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The correct spelling is “theater”.
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In Britain and other places, the spelling is theatre. Not everyone lives in America.
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“Theatre” is, in fact, the correct spelling. Americans just happened to have butchered it a few centuries ago to make it different from the way the Brits spelled it. English came from England, the English spelling is therefore the correct spelling. American spellings are acceptable alternatives.
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“Theatre” is correct if you live in Great Britain or Australia. Same with “colour” instead of “color”. But it is actually incorrect to use it in the United States. It has gained currency as a common, almost slang term however but that does not make it right. In usage, “theatre” comes across as egotistical and superior with a tinge of insincerity. Many people in the acting business use it out of a desperate need to put other people down. Sadly, using the word “theatre” does not make you look or sound any smarter. It is just foolish. I suggest you educate yourself before you make your accusations. Please use “theater.”
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well you were the one to start with lashing out correcting the spelling. therefor you make the statement that his speeling is incorect.
the internet isn’t american it’s international and the english used internationaly is offcially bristish english. he’s still right.
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In the world, being judgmental and self righteous also comes across as egotistical and superior with a tinge of insincerity. Many people who are insecure use these out of a desperate need to put other people down. Sadly, acting like you are the holiest person among the billions of people on earth does not make you sound any better. It is just foolish.
By the way, in case you haven’t noticed, not everyone lives in the U.S, kthx.
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Whilst my FAVOURITE show may not be Glee, I love its use of THEATRE, and how it CENTRES on many different lifestyles. My MUM also likes the show.
I think you should stop ANALYSING things too much. This article seems to suggest that you have some closet homophobic tendencies, and if you don’t want to embrace it, should probably seek some COUNSELLING to help with your bitterness and anger over not finding a nice man to cash your CHEQUES for you.
Also, like others have said, a large percentage of us do not live in the United States. Maybe if you had done some TRAVELLING outside of your country, you would have REALISED this, you ignorant bigot.
Oh, and btw, I’m British and my FAVOURITE COLOUR is blue. I’m also now going to go and unwrap my sandwich from the ALUMINIUM foil that it’s currently in.
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I live in the U.S. and I studied Theatre for 4 years. When referring to the Performing Arts it is called Theatre and when talking about Motion Pictures it is called Theater (Movie Theater).
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I have been analyzing the thought process of conservative republican christians for a while now and find them to be complete contradictions of everything they so-called believe in. As a liberal and a college student I try to view topics from every angle so I can make the most well-rounded decisions, best informed decisions possible. I went to a christian church for four years and decided religion was not my cup of tea, but I made that decision after giving it an honest effort.
Anyway, I thought one of the most important lesson the bible teaches is “Thou shalt not judge,” so who are you to judge this tv show, gays, people’s correct spellings, etc? Please enlighten me.
Call me crazy but although I choose to never have an abortion, have a relationship with someone of the same sex, have no religious belief, and am not a conservative does that mean I am doomed for all eternity?
Hey here’s an idea…have some respect for people who are different from you or go to hell or wherever it is you believe “sinners” end up after death.
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I think he’s scared that only the GAYS that are somehow going to ruin the world call it “theatre” not “theater”. I, personally, think gay people are god’s answer to adoption! Too many children? Make more parents that can’t procreate together! Voila!
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From what that person wrote, the best you could come up with was to correct their spelling? Surely you could have done better than that? Then you have the nerve to tell a person what spelling to use? Your in the USA so you use the spelling that you were taught, I am in Australia and therefore will use the English spelling that I and obviously others, were taught.
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No. THEATRE and THEATER are both acceptable spellings…..
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For the uninitiated: Glee is a satirical comedy about high school glee clubs as a competitive sport. Although I suppose those under 30 might tune in, the target audience is clearly much older. The stereotypes are all extreme – including the gay stereotyped characters. So extreme that they would be offensive in any other context. The “good kids” are stereotypically super-good; to the point that the main male character (super-good virgin Finn) gets tricked into accepting responsibility for an immaculate-conception pregnancy that supposedly happened because they were making out (but not having sex) in a hot tub. Yes, it is that silly and over-the-top. (His ‘best friend’ is the true father)
For those of you who don’t get it: Stephenson Billings is a Phil Hendry style performance artist. The Golden Girls is a dead giveaway. The supposition that any unmarried man ever watched Golden Girls is laughable – let alone the notion that it could turn you gay. Heck, very few people under the age of 40 watched that show, let alone teenagers.
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This post is so misinformed it’s ridiculous. I’m ASHAMED that I practice the same religion as the author of this post. You’re making all Christians look like ridiculous judgmental bigots! Let me start by making a few points.
1) Glee is a television show. There are going to be adult themes such as teenage pregnancy and homosexuality because guess what? It happens in real life! You’re complaining about “adult themes and situations” and “a surprising number of mature scenarios” because guess what? It’s high school. The writers know that high school isn’t a fantasyland as you put it. Also, you’re contradicting yourself. First, you complain that there is a TV show with too many adult themes and situations. Then, you go onto say that it’s not realistic because there isn’t any “gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.” Although that in itself is a contradiction (because according to you, if the show DID have gun violence, etc., it would be too unholy for broadcast, so why are you complaining?), I must also say that you are wrong! Sexting and drug dealing have both occurred on the show. You wanna know why? It’s a show about a high school. It’s REAL.
2) “The ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast.” You think Glee poses SEVERE ethical and social RISKS? Glee is nowhere near “severe.” You want to see severe network broadcast? Try Harper’s Island last spring (and although that in itself was severe, it was a beautiful story, VERY worthy of broadcast).
3) “Instead of a real world high school, we have a fantasyland of happy, shirtless teens hanging out in the showers or dancing on million dollar stages. Why must the producers of this show have so many shots of the football team in the locker room? They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap. Is this some crafty attempt to appeal to the homosexual segment of the show’s audience? Is it really appropriate for today’s male teens to let this sort of softcore utopia influence them?” First of all: The characters of Glee are nowhere near a fantasyland of happy. They’re going through real world issues such as pregnancy. But when they sing, they’re happy. Because they’re a part of something. It makes the problems go away for the time being. But no, it’s not a fantasyland of happy. Second of all, get your facts straight! The closest thing we’ve gotten to “football players in the locker rooms dropping their shorts” has been one character singing in a shower, washing himself with soap. And FYI? All we saw was his chest. Like that’s so explicit? Seriously. There’s been worse on network television. Stop being a pansy and get used to the fact that not everyone is a far-right-wing conservative. Also, didn’t it ever occur to you that maybe the writers were trying to appeal to the heterosexual female audience as well as the homosexual male audience? Stop being so closed-minded.
3) “From pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation.” Oh my goodness. While it’s a TV show, did you ever think that maybe the writers are trying to make it look somewhat real? If every single member of the Glee club is a wholesome left-wing Christian, how realistic is that? Pre-marital sex: One time, it wasn’t even shown. The closest you’ve gotten to that is making out. Deal with it, they’re high school students. Drug use: Not on screen. Adultery: For your information, adultery was never committed. The closest to that was a man kissing another woman AFTER he left his wife. Abortion: The writers couldn’t even say the WORD abortion, let alone make it a primary theme of the show. The closest you’ve gotten to that was “Are you gonna–?” and “No, I’m keeping it.” Premature ejaculation: They’re high school jocks, what else do you expect them to talk about at the Celibacy Club? Explicit homosexual experimentation: NOT EVEN CLOSE! Get your facts straight! Perhaps the closest we’ve gotten to that is a guy coming out to his dad. Get. Your. Facts. Straight.
4) “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. They’ve clearly been coached.” That’s the whole point. It’s a television show about a Glee club, not a church. And yes, they have been coached. They even refer to the teacher in the show as a vocal coach. Get your facts together and think logically.
5)”But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.” Also, the music numbers just drag down the plot of the show.” Will you seriously stop contradicting yourself? According to you, the plot of the show is too explicit, so stop complaining that it’s being supposedly “dragged down!” Also, watching a television show does not change a person. Glee does not make someone gay or artsy or musical or athletic. Having fun in the arts is also NOT a bad thing! If you’re good at it (or even if you like what you’re doing, which in high school, is fine), go ahead. If you like it, then go ahead. Seriously. Athletics aren’t everything. What is so wrong about the arts? You are SUCH a closed-minded hypocrite and bigot.
6) “Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” First of all, how does one gay character make an entire nation gay? Second of all: ALL American citizens have rights, not just the “righteous” and marriage still is beautiful if two people love each other. Love has no standards. Love is not about race or gender or religion or any social status. And you’re going to sit there and say that Chris Colfer is the face of “our future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?” Are you an idiot? Why do you assume that homosexuals are perverts? Have you heard the way some straight men talk about women? And really? TERRORIST? Once again, I ask, are you an idiot?
7) “Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”” The writers of Glee understand that homosexuality is not a disease and make Kurt comfortable with himself which is a good thing to promote. Do you want teenagers struggling with sexuality to not be comfortable with themselves, confusing them even more?
9) Clearly you have not watched the show. Writing a review of a show you have not watched is offensive and your bigotry astounds me. I’m pretty sure God doesn’t appreciate your hate to ANYONE who is different. God would want you to be accepting, something you left-winged conservatives CLEARLY aren’t good at.
I’m so angry. And I want to write more. But honestly I’m going to stop, because just from your post I can tell you’re going to read this while saying “faggots can burn in hell.” How Christian does THAT sound?
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Sorry, made a few typos there. And another thing: Kevin McHale (the actor who plays Artie) is NOT lipsyncing. He is talented, and if you actually cared to research anything before blindly posting this article, you would know that he used to be in a boy band.
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Hi Kevin:
1) It’s ludicrous to claim that simply because Glee is a tv show, it must contain adult themes. Would you say this about Bugs Bunny or the Benji? Of course not. Your argument is contrived. Frankly, there is far too much homosexuality on tv today. Kids watching will think it’s just fun and normal to jump in the sack with some other high school jock and rub around. No so fast! This is very damaging to children.
2) I have no seen the show you mentioned, but I happen to write about many aspects of American culture, including other tv shows. I suggest you do your research on my journalism before making outrageous demands.
3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.
4) Your personal opinion!
5) As I have proven time and again, television has a dangerously outsized influence on young people today. Please get YOUR facts “straight”!
6) So you’re really a gay “marriage” proponent? That explains a lot.
Okay, that’s enough for now. I hope this helps you see some of the serious challenges of this show Kevin. Best of luck to you!
Stephenson Billings, Investigative Journalist
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If anything your responses have proven to me how ridiculous and hateful some people are. I’m going to go watch some Glee on DVD now, and appreciate the talent of everyone involved. Have fun with the whole bigotry thing.
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Kudos Kevin. What you said was spot on. Try finding a drama with a teen audience that doesn’t touch on the topics of sex, teen pregnancy, homosexuality etc.
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it’s happened…it’s finally happened. he’s lost every single of his mabels…for the 1000th time
seriously?
“4) Your personal opinion!”
really? he stated that it’s a musical and thats just an openion? allright in my openion the bible is cook book with 22 great valentines dinner recipies….
what the fuck are you smokeing? the show is a musical show and musical shows involve music numbers. that is not openion that is fact.
“3) Glee is not real world! You must be a bit insane if you honestly believe that! Plus I have seen several locker room scenes on that show and I was frankly appalled.”
that kind of delusions can be asign of mental isues. maybe you should go see a doctor and say you see gay scences in a tv show that does not contain them. or maybe you “acidently” hit the remote and found your gay porn channel?
about the realism of the show half the time you complain it’s unrealistic the other half you complain that kids should not be presented for that kind of stuff….since it’s far too realistic. will you fucking make up your mind?
you dodge the questions and arguments by saying you’re wrong i’m right LALALALALALA!!!!! it’s pathetic. GROW UP!!!!
also great investigive journalist you keep posting incorrect facts. REPEATEDLY!
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first I researched your “Journalism on Google and .. there is no “journalism of you Billings
secon The number 3 from Jazze I think its the second choice he found Gay Porn channel
anyway stop pretending to be a Journalist an editorialist Maybe but thats all
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First of all, Bugs Bunny is full of adult themes and references. It’s very violent, characters are often stripped of their clothing, the animators hide naked/partially naked images of women in the reel and it’s all-around disturbing. In one particularly memorable scene Bugs actually dresses up like a woman and rubs Elmer’s face in his breasts, which I find humorous but for some reason that sort of thing bothers you. They are constantly referencing drugs and things like public execution and cannibalism. Just because it is animated does not mean it is appropriate.
I hated the show as a child but now that I am grown I have learned to appreciate it for its artistry and originality.
Second of all, Glee is not a kids show. Even if it was, it would only teach kids how to deal with adult situations in a responsible and level-headed manner. I had more “adult” experiences in middle school and high school than I’ve ever had after graduation.
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What do you have against gay marriage? Can you answer me without quoting the bible??
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i totally disagree that bugs bunny is an example of wholesome tv from times gone by. he was a cross dresser and attempted to seduce elmer fudd repeatedly. this is by no means tv suitable for teenagers or children.
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Please, stop calling yourself an Investigative Journalist. You are anything but. If you had ever done anything involving investigative journalism, you would have noticed that it requires a bit of research, and getting your facts straight.
Also, with your tendency to moan about homosexuality being a bad influence on society, I’m beginning to believe you are a closeted individual yourself. Dwelling and complaining about today’s culture is not going to change it, although your focus on it belies a certain…preoccupation with the subject outside of your “educational” review of a television programme.
I love Glee. It is one of my favourite shows because it is so very different from most shows on air today. It gives a satirical, albeit fairly accurate, view of what is going on in high schools as of late. As a student going into their sophmore year in September, I know my school has similar demographics. We have the theatre students, the music students, the very much academically-focused students (our school is the local high school with the Gifted program, and the French Immersion program. I personally am in the former.), the athletic students, etcetera, etcetera. We have a GSA – a Gay-Straight alliance, as well as a group called Impact, a Christian club for those who wish to join. They are not our only clubs, but neither do they stand out especially. They simply are normal within the school, and function as such.
Considering you have been out of high school for at least twenty years, perhaps longer, I don’t think you have a right to say what is and is not a good influence on today’s teenagers. Things have changed dramatically since you were in your small-town, football-celebrating school, so I would advise against judging the television shows we are watching, considering Glee is more tame than some of the other shows currently airing. I sincerely wish you would watch MTV, or something of the like, considering it would change your opinion of Glee in an instant. You would be singing the praises of the succesful show, rather than spewing incorrect facts and obnoxious warnings. And no, I do not care that you don’t have cable. Do an internet search (or is Google evil, as well?).
I am atheist, but do not bash me because of that. I accept people with religious morals, and I have morals of my own. I have not been brainwashed by “bad influences”, nor have my parents done a horrible job in raising me. I have made an intellectual, informed choice on my own as to what I would like to believe, and I had issues with inconcsistencies within religion. That being said, I have nothing against religious people – as long as they aren’t intolerant like you. I understand defending your religion, but shoving it down others’ throats and acting superior is not the way to do that (also, do not respond to that sentence, because I know what you would say anyways. Don’t bother trying to convince me of your opinion on it.). My beliefs do not make me a bad person, nor do they mean I am trying to destroy others’ lives. I care for others, and I care that our society remains a moral, accepting one without bigotry and hate such as yours.
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A handful of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies shorts are no longer aired on American television nor are they available for sale by Warner Bros. because of the racial stereotypes of black people, Jews, Native Americans, Asians such as Japanese (especially during WWII) and Chinese, and lastly Germans included in some of the cartoons. In 1999 all Speedy Gonzales cartoons were banned because of their alleged stereotyping of Mexicans, but because the level of stereotyping was minor compared to the World War II era cartoons as well as the protests of many Hispanics who said they were not offended and fondly remembered Speedy Gonzales cartoons from their youth, these shorts were made available for broadcast again in 2002.
Hmmmmmmmm… and you don’t think Bugs Bunny has adult themes? Racist for sure!
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You must not be a very good investigative journalist if you are so one-sided in your views.
Glee is one of my favourite shows for the reasons that you find it so abhorrent. It shocks the hell out of you ancient, outdated bigots who believe that YOU are more “righteous” than homosexuals or those who engage in sex at an age below 30. Have you tried sex or were you too busy with your “investigative journalism”? Why don’t you investigate why every comment you post is being rated down by hundreds of other posters? It’s because you are wrong; in so many ways. I know, everyone else here knows it, and everybody laughs at you.
I am a proponent of gay marriage as I am a gay man myself. I’m glad that I’m gay because I don’t even have to PRETEND to like people like you who are so caught up in your own Texan-values that you are unable to comprehend reality. You are so far past underappreciated on this forum that you’re lapping it for the second time.
One more thing. If you really think that the US is the CENTRE of the world and that the internet is an American technology that couldn’t possibly be used by Brits and Canadians (like me) who use British spelling, then you really are a sad excuse for a journalist. I’ll give you a lesson in etymology. That means, the origin of words in case you needed help on that one. You see, Monsieur Billings, you DON’T speak American like you seem to think. You speak ENGLISH. Ever notice that ENGLAND and ENGLISH seem quite similar? Well that’s because English is the language that spread to North America and other continents FROM England. So whatever spellings those from England use, they are accurate.
Good luck with your presidential nomination Ms. Palin…ahem…I mean, Monsieur Billings.
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Why are you so against Kurt being gay? It’s not like it’s something that cn be changed. Being Christian is accepting people for who they are no matter what, That’s the most iportant lesson I have learned in church.
Also, your description of the characters could not be more completely stereotypical. I personally know many of these people who fit this description in my school.
Glee has taught me that it’s okay to be different. I am involved in the arts in my school and I know that I will always have that close group of friends to support me.
I hope you have a nice conversation with God when he asks you why you’re hateful.
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Parents Council has this review so I agree its something parents need to be cocerned about.
Parents should be aware that this is an edgy teen show filled with adult themes. Simulated sex scenes are usually left to the adults on the show, but sexual situations between the teens are dealt in frank and explicit ways. For instance, there is a running joke that the main jock love-interest, Finn, has a problem with premature ejaculation. In fact, he is lead to believe that he impregnated his girlfriend this way when they were making out in a hot tub. She happens to be the president of the celibacy club who, unbeknownst to Finn, has slept with his best friend. There are also occasional veiled references to. One boy has recently come out of the closet and there are many homophobic jokes made at his expense. Language is relatively tame. Words like “hell,” “crap” and “damn” are occasionally used. Violence is not a problem for the program.
Glee is not recommended for viewers under age 16.
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This article is one of the most hater and homophofic things i have read in my whole life, you even tagged the characters: Jewish Rachel, Gay Kurt!!
why God, the Bible and Jesus are always excuses for hating people?? stop it!! I think the love of God is bigger than prejudices, and Glee is a great show.
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6:42 am
Why do you nutso people all think I hate the Jews? You have zero evidence of this. In fact, I am the author of an article celebrating them!
Jonathan Safran Foer: A Jewish Star Christians Really Can Follow!
http://christwire.org/2009/11/jonathan-safran-foer-a-jewish-star-christians-really-can-follow/
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You don’t hate Jews, you just hate the Gays. Being Gay is not a choice or something that can be cured. You are born gay or you are born straight. As a gay man I find it completely idiotic that you think we can be cured or we choose to be gay. Because I would obviously choose to be a person who does not have the same rights as everyone else and is looked upon like he has a disease. This is who I am I can not control who I love or who I am attracted. I applaud Glee for showing young Gay teens it is okay to be who are and not hide. I wish I would of had that when I was growing up and maybe I would of been alot happier during my teen years. God would not want this kind of hate you are spewing spread!!!
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Could we please retire calling black women ‘sassy’?
Homophobia aside, you really are just reaching for anything to bash Glee about. Kurt’s clothes? Really? They’re too colorful, eh?
The show preaches acceptance. That’s all. And if you honestly think that people are stupid enough to ‘go gay’ because of Kurt then, well, I guess you should get your rainbow suspenders ready.
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Do you really think God likes what you’re doing? Just because you call yourself a Christian doesn’t give you the right to be close-minded or ignorant, even if it is passionately so. You need to question yourself, sir. I don’t know why you’ve decided it’s good and necessary to be a straight, young, straight, white jock who can sing and dance impeccably. You’re spreading blasphemy, and as long as you decide to quote archaic bible verses and close yourself off to the modern world you will continue to mislead yourself and anyone who looks to you for guidance. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but he did mention love, you should look into it.
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Listen, you may enjoy this show and think it’s a lot of fun but when you’re a parent a very different set of circumstances come into play. YOU are responsible for your child. YOU have a responsibility to protect them, to educate them, to led them to grow up with a moral foundation so they can become the very best people they can be. As an adult, you have to make tough choices. You cannot indulge in every fun thing that comes down the pipe. You might not like it, but it’s the truth. Parents have to be on the lookout for negative influences, like drugs and sex and if that’s is what’s being sold in a tv show, you have to shield your young children from that.
Can you honestly look me in the eye and say that Glee is appropriate for kids?
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well maybe thats why it’s not meant for small kids what so ever. if a 8 year old is watching this and being “damaged” from it then yes the parents fucked up.
but the show is meant for a much older audience anyway. can you say teenagers? shielding them from the world won’t help your kids. it’s actually proven to be the most harmful thing you can do since they’ll be unable to br a part of it.
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Jazze, you’re right; we can’t skirt around issues or sugar-coat things. We need to teach our children about sex and all of those uncomfortable topics. Unfortunately, kids in high school do have sex. Kids in middle school do have sex. Ten years ago, 75% of girls under the age of 14 had lost their virginity. You may think it is an adult topic, but trust me, these kids already know about it. The longer we wait to include them in the conversation, the more likely they are to discover it the hard way. I can’t think of any parent who would want their child to have sex by accident for the first time because they didn’t understand what was happening in their own bodies, and they didn’t know where the “do not cross” lines were. I think most parents would rather teach their child about sex.
I’ll never forget a conversation with a coworker – we were talking about how old we were when certain life milestones occurred – first boyfriend, first kiss, “the talk”… And she looked at me and said “I never had the talk. I wish my mom had, though. If she had, I wouldn’t have had sex at 14. I had no idea what I was doing, or what was happening. She hid it from me my entire life, and then there it was! And I did it. And I regretted it. But I didn’t know that’s where it was going until it was too late. I had no idea. She shouldn’t have hid it from me.”
Censorship doesn’t work. It’s like Communism – it sounds really good on paper, but is just destructive in practice.
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My ten-year-old sister watches Glee. I do too. She understands what is and isn’t right to do and she also knows that, despite the characters being teenagers, the actors are well above the legal age of adulthood and anything shown isn’t necessarily real.
So why is it that a ten-year-old can understand these things but you can’t? We were raised in a Republican household, I’m one myself, and yet we’re marginally more accepting than you are, sir.
So go fuck yourself.
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9:34 pm
First of all, abortion has never been mentioned on the show. Quinn, from the outset, has every entention of giving birth to her daughter.
As for homosexual experimentation… Kurt has never even been kissed. There is no rampant male sex desires involved. No locker room orgies are occuring. In fact, mose of the football team proves to be thoroughly homophobic since they start spreading rumors that Finn is gay after he joins Glee…
And basically you’re doing the same thing. Saying that watching Glee will make you gay… isn’t that going a little (a lot) too far?
As for the musical numbers, how can there be too many? The music is the whole point of the show. You confuse me.
As for a “false impression” about talent and success, you apparently have something against the arts. The arts are a great way for kids to express themselves, but just like in Glee, people feel restricted by cliques and stereotypes.
And the reason that athletics will not contribute to any scholarships for the kids of Mckinley High School is because their sports teams are pretty much awful… Just watch episode 4. Since you clearly haven’t seen all (if any) of the actual episodes.
As for your comments on characterization…
Sue Sylvestor is genius. DO NOT DEFY OR SHE’LL PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE.
Kevin Mchale (the actor who plays Artie) has an absolutely amazing voice. I don’t know what you’ve been listening to… And really? A sidekick or a funny phrase? That’s all it takes for good characterization in your eyes? Well, I suppose that’s not all. You also require that all male characters reflect the supreme ideals of masculinity. Because otherwise, watching it -gasp- turns you gay!!
And really… do you really think that Kurt’s fashion is that much of a threat to your perfect ideal of masculinity? You say it like buying clothes is some kind of awful drug…
Can you really blame Will for leaving his wife? She lied to him about being pregnant. For several months. So that automatically makes him an adulterer when he leaves her? Really?
Now I’m really, really hoping that this article is some kind of horrid joke, but that unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case… I feel sorry for you and your judgmental and narrow-minded point of view.
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9:54 pm
I just have a few objective points to correct in your research, since, as any sort of journalist, I think it’s safe to assume you’d want factual information.
Lea Michele is actually 23 years old, born August 29, 1986. Her character, Rachel Berry, is actually quite believable for some people. Many beautiful, talented girls are overlooked in High Schools and even become the subject of animosity from other girls. Girls in High School are very competitive amongst themselves and engage in these kinds of cutthroat activities frequently. Rachel is one of the unfortunate victims of this. She’s beautiful, but her personality frightens people away.
What we see on TV is all lip-synced over pre-recorded performances. This is because optimal sound quality is desired and some real-life settings as well as stage sets do not provide proper acoustics for a live vocal performance. As a result, singers pre-record the given songs and lip-sync them in front of the camera. The actor who plays Artie is no exception to this rule, but that’s most definitely his own voice in the cast recordings (you can reference his casting tape, available on Glee’s official website).
I would also like to make note that many of the characters are so extreme because the plot of this show occurs in a heightened reality, which also encompasses the complex choreography and difficult singing featured in this show. Most individuals use context to determine that all aspects of the program and its characters are very obviously exaggerated.
Many films on the same level of heightened reality portray young individuals who beat realistically impossible odds to succeed in athletics. Many of these films are specifically intended for much younger audiences. I’m curious as to whether or not you would direct a consistent criticism toward these productions as well.
On the issue of content, Glee has a “TVPG” rating by The TV Parental Guidelines’ standards. That means that it may contain content unsuitable for younger individuals, including the possibility of “some suggestive dialogue (D), infrequent coarse language (L), some sexual situations (S), or moderate violence (V)” (quoted directly from the website), implying that parents (with whom the responsibility for an adolescent actually lies), should be present for the viewing of this show with their child.
Also, I understand that your article is written from a very personal and religious perspective, but I’m a little curious as to why you made the point of emphasizing Rachel’s culture and ethnicity in the passage about the characters, but not for others like Mercedes. I understand that you were choosing identifying features, but why is it that her Jewish descent was your identifier for her when there are so many other prominent features of the character. Being that your article is very negative as a whole and that other identifying features you chose were negative, is it corect to venture that you have something against her Jewish descent?
And, also, in response to a comment left earlier, “theatre” was the correct spelling in that context. The word spelled “theater” refers to a building, while the spelling “theatre” refers to the dramatic art form.
I hope this has been informative.
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10:09 pm
Thanks for arguing facts in a lose-lose situation. It’s one thing to debate the show’s message, but he didn’t even bother to check the lead’s age! Although, he did go out of the way to insult her.
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8:11 am
Dear Kite:
The age of that one actress is irregardless to my broader point that this show has a very negative influence on children. Frankly, she is made up to look like she’s 30 with her mature clothes and makeup. She does not look anything like a high school student! Her specific age is not at issue, it’s the age she appears to be on screen. And I still stand by my assertion that she looks 30. You people seem to be all obsessed about that, as if it disproves the logic of my entire article. It does not.
As for the other technical aspects of the show, I must say you know your lingo. Do you work in tv? For Glee perhaps? It wouldn’t surprise me. I suggest you come clean about your allegiance here, your bias is not actually appropriate We don’t need propaganda from Glee production insiders. i am perfectly willing to engage with you on an honest discussion of the show but I must say your ulterior motives concern me.
Moving on, the whole question of “heightened reality” and great sound quality is no excuse for a show to be so unrealistic if it is promoting a very liberal, pro-homosexual agenda. I could write a script with conservative and Christian values and have everyone be millionaires with 10 beautiful children and Jeb Bush as President. Would this not be criticized for it’s false reality? Of course it would. Would it inappropriate as a political promotion tool for a radical lifestyle choice? Most certainly. The same should be said of Glee. Y
ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!
In addition, “theatre” does not refer to “the dramatic art form” as you say. It’s simply not the correct American spelling. It’s an arty affectation, something show off way of saying you’re better or smarter than the rest of Americans. Well, you’re not. We’re all in the same boat here.
I pray this has been enlightening.
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10:15 am
“ou people seem to be afraid because no one has dared come out of the closet to criticize your precious tv show. Well, that’s what I’m here to do. And the fact that you’re all so angry and motivated to protect the myth of this show just proves my point. You know somewhere in your hearts it’s fake and wrong and it’s like a drug or caffeine and you should know better than to indulge in it’s syrupy sweetness too much but you can’t help yourself. I am here to help!”
so when i start saying the bible makes people retardet that’s what? fair critizing? no it’s fucking not.
also ofcourse you’re entiteled to your openion you can hate the show as much you like. that just doesn’t make it bad. the article is extreamly subjective and even includes you review of scenes you imagined(or dreamt?)
we are not here to protect the show. we are here to protect common sense.
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I was going to stay out of this until I saw the word “irregardless.” The word is REGARDLESS. There is no “ir” in the beginning of it. How dare you criticize other people’s CORRECT spelling of the word “theatre,” yet you fail so horribly at using the English language correctly? Have you ever taken an English course? I vaguely remember being taught how to spell “regardless” in the third grade. It may have been fourth.
I’m not even going to begin to comment on the rest of this jargon. I, very much like yourself, cannot truthfully say that I have seen enough “Glee” episodes to make a correct judgement.
Beyond the severe grammatical and typographical errors, I’m pretty sure 90% of your “article” is libelous. You are accusing innocent people of terrible things (corrupting young minds, et cetera) with absolutely no proof other than your own delusional thoughts. Surely they covered this in your journalism courses, if you’ve ever set foot in one.
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5:38 pm
1) Irregardless is improper. Do you have an editor? I suggest finding someone new.
2)Watching t.v. is not investigative journalism. Where are your interview with the cast and crew? How about the writers or network producers?
3) It’s clear from these posts than being a Christian means picking and choosing what you want to believe. Love thy neighbor, not if thy neighbor is gay, has premarital sex, or struggles with an real life issue. I’m sure Jesus would feel the same way about this show.
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7:47 am
Since you still seem to be stuck on the spelling issue:
1) “Irregardless” = not a word
2) “…criticized for it’s false reality?” = criticized for “it is” false reality
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8:33 pm
“Irregardless” is not a word. The word you were looking for is irrelevant.
“Theatre” is the correct spelling in the UK, Canada, Australia, and every other English-speaking nation other than the US. I’m Canadian, and that’s how we spell it here.
It’s rather insulting to have you correct the spelling of words that are spelled correctly and claim a deficiency in personality on the part of the writer of these replies.
I was under the impression an “investigative journalist” would be more professional and refrain from editorializing in his articles.
Also, you mention several studies that have revealed the profound influence of the Golden Girls and Glee on a growing adolescent homosexual community.
Would you be willing to post your sources? I’ve heard of no such connection or studies.
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10:04 pm
What Every Parent Should Know About the TV Show Glee .. what a joke! I thought a small action called “RESEARCH” is necessary to write an HONEST article.
*Victor Matlin.. I actually only need to touch upon this topic briefly to prove my point.. The actor’s name who plays Will Schuster’s father is Victor GARBER. He appears in one episode and plays a character who is INSPIRED by his son, a teacher, who touches the lives of his students.
*”Jewish Rachel”.. is NOT 30. Lea Michele is 23 and has had more success in her 23 years of life than the majority of the United States. Plus, she’s not playing like she’s ugly.. she’s playing a role that is true in many high schools across the country. And Ryan Murphy created a fantastic, honest female character in Rachel.
*”Artie, Wheelchair”.. yes, Jesus would be SUPER proud of you to denote a handicapped character simply by the fact that he uses a wheelchair. Kevin McHale is INSANELY talented and does in fact sing very well. He performed in a successful band, Not Like Them.
Just a few examples of the character corrections.
One of my favorite quotes of the article: “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers.” –You do realize this show is about a glee club, right? A glee club practices and performs musical numbers. Frequently.
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. This is false and it’s reckless for the creators of this show to promote such disinformation. Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century.” — The creators are informing the young audience that there are other ways to get scholarships than by sports alone. And honestly, a mediocre football player is a dime a dozen and will likely not receive a scholarship. There ARE other scholarship options aside from sports. Like, what do you know it, performing arts.
Another personal favorite: “…should be removed from broadcast.” –Obviously FOX and the Hollywood Foreign Press (who award the Golden Globes, just in case you aren’t sure of what that is.. taking into consideration your lack of research) don’t think so. Thankfully.
“They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true.” –I am SO glad I am not your child. I would hate to see how you encourage people.
On a side note.. The stage used is very realistic. I went to a public high school that had an incredible stage very similar to the one seen in Glee (complete with lights), 2 gyms, 2 pools, a music wing, a 4 story field house, brand new stadium, football/soccer field, track, baseball field and individual practice fields for each sport AND marching band.
As a *practicing* Catholic, Republican and religious Glee watcher, I was very disappointed in the partiality of this article. Jesus is a loving and forgiving God. And I’m sure he forgives all the close-minded people for their prejudices.
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8:17 am
Katherine, I find the tone of your comment entirely unprofessional and crude. You and I may disagree on certain points about this show, but as I have stated before, I stand by my assertion that it is inappropriate for children of all ages. I am sorry this outrages you, but I suggest that maybe you take a deeper look at yourself and ask why you need and depend on a tv show so much. It may be that you’re seeking solace from reality. But this gets back to my larger point– a tv show shouldn’t become your reality. There is much more out there in the world than the characters on some made up tv drama. You have your whole life to live and being so attached and obsessed with each and every nuance of these fake people’s lives in truly unhealthy.
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You’re calling ME unprofessional because I corrected YOU, the author of this, on your “facts”?? The ONLY thing that you and I agree on is the fact that this show is not appropriate for children of ALL ages – hence why it’s on at 9pm and not 6. Obviously I wouldn’t sit down with a 7 year old and have them watch Glee with me. The show IS appropriate for children over 14 considering it is a show in a high school and that is the average age of freshmen in high school.
And please do not attempt to be a personal psychologist and tell me why I choose to watch Glee. Television is entertainment. I do not need OR depend on Glee. I am not attached to OR obsessed with the characters in the show. I felt the need to reply to this article because many of the “facts” you stated were FALSE. If you’re going to write an article based on your personal views, that’s fine. Knock yourself out. But do not publish your views and call them fact. There is nothing unhealthy about that.
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I think “Victor Matlin” was the father’s name in the movie “Beetlejuice”. Clearly this is more evidence of demonic influences at work.
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10:46 pm
The majority of the individuals here have expressed my beliefs, but I would like to mention: this show airs at 9pm. If parents were really concerned about their children, they wouldn’t let them be up late enough to even watch the show.
Not to mention I can point out quite of few “facts” you stated tha are just wrong.
“Jewish Rachel” is not 30. She’s 23 as are the majority of the actors who play the students. They cannot cast real-life 14-18 year olds very easily because there are laws that prohibit underage individuals to work so many hours. The show it hard work, and involves a lot of hours. Everyone in the cast is over 18 for a reason.
Victor Matlin? Really??? Try Victor Garber.
There have been NO sex scenes whatsoever. Seriously, have you watched the show at all?
Also – the “coaching” and lip-synching? They’re all professionals. In fact, at least three of the actors have starred in very successful Broadway shows. Artie Lip-synching is FALSE. Everyone on the show sings. Thing are pre-recorded by the actors in a studio and yes, they lip-synch when they film that’s just they process of filming. It would happen no matter what show it is. If you don’ like their acting, that’s a personal opinion that shouldn’t affect what you think of the show’s moral values.
You say you’re an investigative journalist, but that would require thoroughly investigating you story before coming to conclusions.
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Lex, I have addressed many of your claims in my earlier statements. I really think you’re off base and a little too concerned for this fantasy show. As for actors under 18 being unable to work in tv, that is just a laughable and wrong point. Have you never watched anything else on tv? Full House, Cosby Show, The Brady Bunch? There were plenty of children acting each week on all of them. This brings me to another point–I really have to onder how old you are. Should a grown man really become so obsessed with a tv show about young and effeminate boys? I don’t think it’s appropriate.
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Those shows are much older; current legislation protection child labor wasn’t as strictly enforced, if it even existed yet. Also, they’re situation comedies, not musicals. A musical takes much more time to rehearse, because there’s so much more to the performance. It’s singing and dancing in addition to the acting. A minor couldn’t possibly put in the necessary hours of rehearsal for a weekly show without breaking the laws.
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10:47 pm
I wasn’t going to dignify this with a response, however I just wanted to let you know how hilarious this is.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee” – the girl had sex ONE time, hardly makes her a “slut” or qualifies her as a Blanche Deveraux. Besides, the admittedly promiscuous character and cougar hunter Puck (the attractive, shirtless fellow at the top) didn’t even get a mention as being a slut, is that because he is a guy? Fair is fair.
There is ONE thing I do agree with you on…
“Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often?” Yeah, the shorts are slightly disturbing.
Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
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9:28 am
Hello Marie,
From what I understand, the female Quinn has sex with various men on the show including the lead football player in a hot tub and another man with a mohawk. Because of her sex partners, she is unsure who the father is when she gets pregnant (see the episode “Preggers”). Do you really find this to be an appropriate character for a show aimed at teens? She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular, yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant. I honestly don’t think there’s anything you can admire in a character like that.
Marie, let me also take a little time to address your personal obsession with this tv show. It may seem like a great place to spend your emotional time, but what ultimately does it contribute to your life? Have you ever chosen spending time with “Glee” over spending time with your friends and family? This is a question often asked of alcoholics. I think a bit of soul searching may be in order here. I truly believe you are too immersed in a false belief system.
Best of luck my friend!
Stephenson
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Quinn had sex once with Puck (the man with the mohawk). She never had sex with Finn. They made out in the hot tub. Obviously you cannot get pregnant merely by making out, but that’s the funny part about Finn thinking the baby is his. Quinn is not supposed to be a role model in the early episodes of the show. She is the mean cheerleader that picks on people because they are different – much like you are doing with the characters in your article. Quinn becomes very admirable when she stands up to the true villain of the show, Sue Sylvestor, later on in the season AND flat out says in the episode “Preggers” that she is not having an abortion. She chose life. Once again, a few minutes of RESEARCH could have informed you of all of that.
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2:53 pm
“From what I understand” is your problem here. You’ve written an entire “investigative” article, and yet you are not well-informed. People are upset because you presented false information, and exaggerated the few nuggets of truth to serve your purpose. Perhaps if you were accurate in your summary of the program, people would be more accepting of your commentary.
Oh, and also if you didn’t come across like a hateful bigot.
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6:47 pm
“She is supposed to be a role model, she’s a cheerleader and very popular,”
Popular cheerleaders are not appropriate role models for young girls. In my entire high school career and my two years of college, I have never met a smart cheerleader. Long story short: cheerleaders are sluts. They slather on the makeup so that they practically look like Bozo the Clown, wear skimpy clothing, and can’t find India on a map. Role models for young and teenage girls should be pretty yet modest, smart yet sociable, generous, caring, and have big aspirations for the future.
“yet she has no compunction about getting pregnant.”
Remember dude, we’re talking about cheerleaders. I’ll bet that at least 98% of cheerleaders are sexually active, and probably over 50% of them don’t use protection. Because they’re airheads.
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Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population. Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere. Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success. But they’re also human beings with heart and soul! Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble. I support cheerleading as a sport 200%. It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves. I know it seems like some ancient marriage preparation ritual so that these girls can pair off with the boys on the football team, but so what? Maybe they’re the right types of girls to marry great football stars. Please don’t let your intense personal bias cloud your better judgement. You should honestly know better.
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“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
But, Stevie, you seem to think that just because you’ve never come out of the closet is reason enough to slander the entire population of homosexuals…
Also, you really oughtta watch “But I’m a Cheerleader!” I think that movie would be right up your alley…
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12:47 am
“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.”
In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a feminist. Your accusing me of simply being jealous of cheerleaders because I wanted to be one but wasn’t good enough is insulting to everything that I stand for. I never wanted to be a cheerleader because they are an insult to the female gender. Not only are they slutty, brainless girls, but they are essentially buying into the “gender role” that females should be on the sidelines cheering the males on. They spend more time applying their makeup, giving blowjobs, and practicing their valley girl accents than they do studying.
“Yes, they are beautiful and made up to be the virtual embodiment of young boys everywhere.”
Wait, cheerleaders are the embodiment of young boys?
“Yes, they attract jealousy because of their social success.”
I couldn’t give a damn about “social success”. Frankly, the last thing that I’ve ever wanted is to be popular. All I need in life is my family, my cats, and a couple of friends who I share common interests with.
“But they’re also human beings with heart and soul!”
No, they’re not. They’re vain, selfish people who think that the world revolves around them. They’re the type of girls who are last to arrive at the train station, yet have to be the first ones on the train so they can get a seat. They’re the types of girls who won’t give up their seat to an elderly or disabled person. They’re the types of girls who make comments behind other girls’ backs. They’re the types of girls who are repulsed by homeless people. They’re the types of girls who hear the word “Iraq”, and say “Iraq, what’s that?” They’re the types of girls who would rather watch “The Hills” than the news. They’re the types of girls who won’t vote because they don’t care. Long story short: I hate cheerleaders because they’re vain, slutty, and apathetic.
“Their dedication to sports, their celebration of athletics is noble and humble.”
Guess what? There are lots of things in this world that are more important than sports. On a list of the most important things in this world, I’d put sports at, say, #10,000. Besides, what exactly is noble or humble about a group of scantily clad girls gyrating their hips on the sidelines of a football field?
“It is healthy and smart and a great chance for girls to perfect themselves.”
Perfect themselves in what, the art of being groomed to be a teenage stay-at-home-mom with no college education and “Valleygirl” as a second language?
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I must admit, while most cheerleaders I have met were exactly the kind of girls Claire has described, I have known two I would consider as role models. Both quit cheerleading to focus on their studies, and got scholarships based on their amazing academic performance. It miraculously improved once they gave up prancing around in those tiny skirts. Neither one, however, gave up their art classes. Those girls, I would consider role models. They understood what was important, and gave up the silly pasttime of cheerleading.
And just because you couldn’t find a girl who wasn’t a complete airhead to date you, Billings, doesn’t mean you can lie to the rest of us about what wonderful women cheerleaders are. WE won’t buy into such nonsense.
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Claire,
I went to two high schools. In both schools, the cheerleaders weren’t really higher up on the social food chain then anyone else in the school. One was in the band with me, others were involved in other sports, academics, and performing arts. They were all respectful, and the one I was in band with was intelligent and accepting. She also dated a football player who was also in band and a really nice guy. I disagree with everything said in the article by the author. But I have to say your article was nearly as ignorant and prejudiced. And the sad thing is while I suspect this article to be a satire, your response is not. I don’t know what cheerleader hurt you so badly, but just like any other social group, you cannot judge everyone by the actions of one person. Learn wisdom and tolerance and you will be a much happier person.
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Ok First of all, Lea Michelle (Rachel) is 22 or 23, not 30. And, you complain that there are too many musical numbers? WTH it’s a show ABOUT show choir. The musical numbers do not subtract from the plot–they drive it forward. You can’t have a show about a high school show choir with no musical numbers. You need to get your head out of your ass, admit you’re gay, and go get fucked.
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11:07 pm
Please, stop spreading your lies and prejudices and DO YOUR RESEARCH before deciding to write an article like this.
“The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
Most teachers are actually very much like Will in schools today. Why? Because they actually CARE ABOUT THE STUDENTS. They want to see them succeed, they encourage them and are generally nice people. Secondly, wouldn’t you just be writing a worse article if Glee included gun violence? It seems your view of what a high school is like comes only from the media, who lead you to believe every teenager is a psychopath who will glass you or turn a knife on you. NOT true.
“Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers. From R&B hits to showtunes to classic rock & roll, the boys and girls of Glee really can put on a performance.”
Glee is a MUSICAL. Hence, the many music performances. The boys and girls of Glee can sing, yes. Perhaps that’s why they joined the choir?
“On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton.”
They never, ever said that on the show. I believe in this you are referring to a talk Will gave Finn, in which he stated that just one extra-curricular activity does not get you into college, but two might do just that.
“Again the show makes the case that accepting the gay lifestyle and making yourself as outrageous as possible will help you achieve something despite whatever social limitations you may have. Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument. There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires.”
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice. It’s something you are born with and you can change your sexual orientation just as much as you can your skin colour. You are prejudiced against the show because it has a gay character. Teaching kids to shun certain people and look down on them…what is that teaching them about life in general? Hate and disrespect that which you don’t understand?
“If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be?”
One in which everybody is accepted for who they are?
“Jewish Rachel: This girl is beautiful (and 30). I don’t understand why she’s playing like she’s ugly and unpopular! When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.”
Lea Michele is not 30. She’s in her early twenties. Also, Ryan Murphy is not gay. It’s statements like these that show how unprofessional and unbelievable this article truly is.
“Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.”
Kevin McHale was in a boy band before Glee. You can Google them if you like. You don’t believe he sings…is that because he’s a high school ‘nerd’ in a wheelchair? THAT is hypocritical.
“Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.”
Really, how many episodes of this show did you actually watch? Quinn is a “slutty cheerleader” for the first five episodes, but then she sees how the members of Glee really care for her and she becomes an extremely nice person.
“Gay Kurt Hummel: I am afraid the makers of this show have dangerously indulged this young man’s fetish for expensive outfits. Children watching may be tempted to experiment with similar radical wardrobe choices. Why is everything he wears so bright and tight? Are we supposed to guess at the source of his income for such extravagance? Why did he quit football team? Will the writers of this show actually force him to do an on-air homosexual kiss or even worse? Sadly, with his clothing obsession and sassy attitude, Kurt Hummel may be destined to become this generation’s Betty White.”
If you’re going to complain about the outfits, you really should have picked on Gossip Girl instead, which uses the show to showcase expensive clothing. The writers of the show cannot ‘force’ him to do anything the actor does not wish to do, though since the actor is gay himself I’m sure he wouldn’t have absurd prejudices like yours.
“Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.”
Excuse me? Neither Will, nor Matthew Morrison, are gay. What the HECK makes you think that?! He has a wife and a crush on the school’s guidance councillor!
I hope next time you accuse a show of corrupting a generation you’ll at least take the liberty to RESEARCH to cover up your clear lack of knowledge about what you’re writing about. Actually, I think the world would be a better place if you never wrote anything else like this. Period.
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11:17 pm
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this article is pure trash. great job, have you even thought of writing tabloids? you’d be fantastic.
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11:38 pm
I’m 14 and my sis is 11 and we absolutely LOVE the show, so do my parents and even my very-christian Aunty. Personally I think your wrong on so many levels it’s not funny and it’s people like YOU who think their like another messiah or something.
Here in Australia Glee is rated PG and I’m pretty sure its around there in America, They have never sworn once, never did they mention Abortion and never have they given the message that “Cuz Kurt is Gay we want to make everyone gay”
The reason they made Kurt gay was because Glee is about being accepted for who they are and when Kurt came out to his dad he was accepted like every parent should accept their kid for who they are. I could see you throwing your kid out for being gay cuz u think its “evil” or wateva. Disowning a child for something that they can’t control or that is part of them is ridiculous.
Lea is not 30 she is 23, and what did you put “Jewish Rachel” because you hate Jews? (your also probably one of those people that think the holocaust was a good thing -.- )
“Artie, Wheelchair” does not lip-sync, his voice is genuine and he is a very talented person.
“Slutty Quinn” i have no idea where your reference is from but Quinn is defiantly not a slut and if i were you i would go look up the definition of slut again.
And calling Kurt a terrorist is just stupid. I have no idea where you got the impression of that.
Again, the concept of Glee is for kids to be themselves and accept eachother for who they are, not what they looking like, their sexuality, if they like music ect. As the bible says “Love thy neighbor”
And i think the concept of you in the world is to spread lies and make up crap about perfectly good shows. Your a sad excuse for a human being and a very sad excuse for a Christian. Get a Life.
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8:23 am
You seem awfully young to be watching an adult show at 9pm. This does concern me. It also concerns me that you’re reading a Christian website with information aimed at parents. Your other points– well, clearly you’re just repeating what other angry commenters have said.
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8:47 pm
Wow, that wasn’t even aimed at me and I feel patronized.
Yeah, kid. Be quiet; the grown-ups are talking.
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9:30 pm
So you also admit that this is an adult show. You admit that this show is not aimed toward children.
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11:44 pm
Solution: If Glee offends you, don’t watch it. If you decide not to watch it, don’t judge it and keep your negative thoughts to yourself.
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11:57 pm
Rachel is Jewish, is this not correct? I don’t understand why you people are all up in arms about that. Yes, she is Jewish! They say that on the show and make her out to live the life of a Jewish-American girl. “Jewish” is not an epithet. It is not a “bad” word. It’s a ethnic descriptor. Honestly, you people are trying to create controversy where none exists.
Furthermore, most of the people commenting on this article are NOT PARENTS. You’re mostly young, some still children. I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things. Again, this article is really meant for your PARENTS so they can make important decisions concerning your lives. Parenting is not easy and contains many, many responsibilities. If you disagree so strongly, you might want to send a link to this article to your parents so you as a family can have an honest discussion of television content and your watching habits. It really will help you guys figure things out.
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12:01 am
“About The Author: Stephenson Billings is an Investigative Journalist, Motivational Children’s Party Entertainer and Antique Soda Bottle Collector all in one special, blessed package! Fanmail me Stephenson@Christwire.org !”
Billings, it scares me to think anyone allows you near their children, or that you have any of your own.
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4:22 pm
“I realize you enjoy the show, but kids like chocolate and beer, that doesn’t mean adults should let them have these things.”
Now THAT is offensive. You, sir, are stereotypical and probably the only real interaction you have with the world is via the Internet and watching the news. Sure, I’m a child. Doesn’t mean I like beer or would ever drink if the opportunity was presented.
And another thing: The only response you have to everybody’s comments are that they are “obsessed” with Glee by correcting your false statements. Clearly, you’re pretty “obsessed” too, if you have nothing better to do than write an online article bashing a wonderful TV show, one that won a Golden Globe.
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4:24 pm
Oh and I’ll have you know? My mom works at a church as a Children’s Ministry Assistant Director and is perfectly fine with me watching Glee. She even sometimes watches it with me!
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5:18 pm
Kids like chocolate and beer…? I do admit that chocolate is absolutely delicious, but not all teenagers are rebels who go out and get drunk every night. I can truthfully say that I have never had so much as a sip of alcohol before. And yet I watch Glee. It hasn’t corrupted me and turned me into a sex driven maniac or alcoholic or drug user. Though you don’t seem to be able to comprehend it, some people are actually responsible.
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1:44 pm
I am a parent, sir. I have three beautiful children, two of which are already in college.
I showed this article to many of my friends, all parents. We had a good laugh. Many of them commented on this. Most of them, in fact. We’ve been referencing it for a couple of days now. It’s become an inside joke.
Our children are brilliant, well-educated professionals. We are all devout Christians. Sometimes I watch Glee with my daughter who is still in high school. We have good conversations and we love the music.
My sons are into sports and are also amazing artists. I have a nephew who is gay.
I love this show because it teaches children responsibility and is very realistic at times.
Also, it’s very aesthetic and I love it.
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8:14 am
Mr Billings
Forgive my ignorance (y’know like that tolerant god you listen to), but surely being jewish isn’t an “ethnic descriptor”. I mean, where is “Jewland”, “Jewtopia”, etc. I pray to your imaginary friend, sorry, your god, that I never get sent to “Christianland” or “Christiania”. I think it would be worse than France!I would have thought it more a “religious descriptor”. I only hope that you, as a journalist that investigates this kind of stuff before you write it would know.
And as for all the trans-Atlantic spelling bee nonsense, feel free to, in future, not post your ill-researched (I’m told there is no greater insult for a real journalist) on the “world wide” web.
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4:11 pm
As a conservatory student of musical theater, I will tell you that you are incorrect in your statements about theatre, music and dance – the quality of these – on the show. (I’m not saying I like what is on the show…because it’s cheap and corny, but that isn’t my point of writing this.) Not only this, but you make accusations about what it takes to be successful in the field/in arts and these false accusations contradict what you say a few sentences before!
This is poorly written and based on nothing substantial other than your desire to gripe about something to make you feel better about yourself. Wake up. GROW up. And Open your little eyes and brain. From reading this article, I’ll go ahead and say that your perception of the world is seriously twisted. Sorry. Read my blog for just a TASTE of logic-based truth…which is for what I am constantly searching: the TRUTH.
If you’d like details of how you may edit the aspects of this article based on music, dance, theatre, and the arts, I’d be more than willing to help – but judging from the tone of what you’ve written, I doubt you’d be willing to listen.
You are foul for trying to impose your beliefs (backed by religion and morals) onto others. Of course, I know that I didn’t have to come to this site and didn’t have to read and didn’t have to comment… Still – try approaching your writings and thinking from scientific means or life-based logic…think about what you say before you write it and IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU AFTER YOU’VE THOUGHT UP EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE argument, then post. Otherwise, you just create a blog full of material that most deem to be silly, laughable, and unsubstantial.
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12:08 am
I agree that this show probably isn’t for children, it’s a little too adult for them. That’s probably why it’s on at 9pm. And if that was the whole point of this article, I’d be fine with you saying that the show may not be appropriate to young children.
But you didn’t. I’m not even 100% sure that you’ve watched the show (I know that you claim you have, but I’m thinking you weren’t paying attention because half of this stuff didn’t happen). I don’t feel like they’re showing naked locker room scenes all that often, because if they had, believe me, I would have noticed. Additionally, I know there’s ever been any explicit sex or “gay things with guys in the bathroom”. Your assumptions about Will being gay are way off base (or so it would appear to me) and even if they weren’t, being a homosexual does not mean that one shouldn’t allowed around students. If we’re truly talking about “intimate, private contact with young people” then no teachers (heterosexual or homosexual) should be afforded that (I believe in most cases it would be illegal)
As for your take on the Arts/Sports rivalry. I don’t think anyone is saying that you can’t get a football scholarship. Obviously, that is one way to go. But their team sucks, so what they were saying was that Finn had a better chance at getting in with Glee, since things were looking more hopeful there. The arts teach teamwork just as much as sports do, believe me. If someone forgets their lines in the school play, it’s just as much a problem as if someone can’t remember a play on the football field. Having fun in the arts is fine if that’s what you want to do. Having fun in sports is fine if that’s what you want to do. I haven’t seen anything suggesting that kids should drop all college preparations to put on a show with their friends. And if they have, perhaps you should talk to your children about the importance of higher education, if you believe in that. After all, you are the parent, not the TV show. Kids can get input from TV shows, but ultimately, parents are the ones pointing the way.
Also, I think it’s fantastic how you’ve given your personal input about the actors’ careers, writing on the show, etc. You are clearly such a brilliant creative mind that we should all listen to you. If you are going to write an investigative journalism piece, maybe you should just stick with the facts instead of embellishing the story with your (often unfounded) opinions.
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12:34 am
Oh, and being gay is not a lifestyle choice. Why would anyone choose to be alienated, physically and emotionally attacked and denied civil rights? Most people would not. And I think that the reason that there are “more” homosexuals now is because people aren’t so afraid anymore to be who they truly are. Fifty years ago many currently “out” gay males probably would have been miserable and married with children, not because it’s who they are but because it was what they had to be. If a TV show can turn you gay, you probably already were to begin with. Curing people of gay urges isn’t possible. You can repress them, but you can’t cure them. And guess what?! Because the bible shouldn’t be taken literally, this does not necessarily mean that the gays are going to hell. If they kill people, sure they are, but not because they’re gay. According the the bible my dad could sell me into slavery. Thank goodness he’s not so literal.
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8:29 am
Thank you for agreeing with me that this show is not appropriate for children. As for homosexuality, I am informed by thousand of years of Christian learning and wisdom. You may recall from scripture:
“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” –Leviticus 18:22
“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” –Romans 1:26-27
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8:29 am
I’ve always enjoyed that chapter of Leviticus, but, Mr Billings, I think everyone stops a line short when preaching against unnatural sex acts.
Leviticus 18:23 reads: Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
So just to clear this up, God thinks same sex sex is abominal, but bestiality is just confusing.
I’ll bet he throws a great party!
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12:17 am
Billings – I AM a parent. I am aware of today’s teenagers. I have a toddler, but also have a teenage sister. The fact that these kids that are correcting you, the adult author of this pathetic article, is scarier than the things you think Glee is corrupting today’s youth with. Yes, Glee has some mature themes, but I haven’t known one teenager that hasn’t grown into an adult. I’d rather have my sister watch this show than trash like Jersey Shore and other reality shows of the sort.
Get a grip, Billings, and stop attempting to hold yourself at a higher level than the kids that have commented on your ridiculous article. As an adult and parent, I’d rather spend my time with these kids who have a more open and accepting point of view than you, another adult, that thinks that anything that is different is wrong. Did your parents not hug you enough as a child or something? Grow up.
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12:23 am
Also.. the whole point of people getting pissed at the “Jewish Rachel” identification is that there are other ways to describe people than by their religion. You could have said “Female Lead Rachel”.
By the way, Quinn is not a slutty cheerleader. She is the president of the celibacy club. Granted, she got pregnant by having sex her first time ever.. but I never knew that having sex once made you a slut. Thanks for correcting me, Billings.
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12:36 am
OMG! A show doesn’t follow the Bible but actual life situations while being a delightful musical. WELCOME TO REALITY these things are all out in the world. Teen pregnancy, Gay teenagers, Peer pressure, The high school “line” of things, SEX! . We are all going to face these things sooner or later in our life’s weather it be TV, Movies, Books, or real life situations.
I was in 3 Choirs my entire 4 years in High School and we switched from show tunes and modern music! and it was the one of the best things i could have done to take up music. I also did sports most of the time also til a injury took me out of the game.
Believe me when I say there are shows out there far worse then Glee that Kids could be watching A.K.A any reality show on MTV or VH1! So … You don’t like the show, OK TURN OFF YOUR TV AND LET THE REST OF US ENJOY!
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8:44 am
I don’t know why you people are getting all hysterical and spamming this website with your inane comments. This article is intended for informed Christian parents looking for guidance in raising their children. If the content is too difficult for you to stomach, I suggest you move on and leave the reporting to the journalists.
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4:31 pm
In some cases, like this one, if we leave the “reporting to the journalists,” then we will be misinformed with false information.
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1:04 am
following that logic you people should shut up and move on about obama being president. leave leading the country to the president, right?
he’s president = he’s qualified and no matter what mistakes he make or what flaws he may have he can’t be wrong…or maybe that logic only aplly to you?
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1:32 am
EXCUSE ME WHILE I DANCE AROUND IN MY SPARKLY PINK LOLLERSKATES.
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1:47 am
for all of the times you, stephenson billings, have replied to some of the above comments I’m really curious as to why you’ve yet to address any of the SEVERAL factual errors you made in the article that SEVERAL posters have pointed out.
as an “investigative journalist” your job seems to be to obtain FACTUAL information before writing and publishing an article. since you failed to do that the least you can do now is CORRECT your article, and thank so many of the posters above for doing your job for you and better than you.
of course, I don’t expect a response to this, a comment that points out all of YOUR flaws– you know? sort of like your article does with a TV SHOW.
oh and before you try to completely skirt the issue (AGAIN), I AM a parent of a child, so don’t pull the “you’re not a parent so you are not the intended audience of this (largely untrue) information” with me, bub.
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8:33 am
Please speak (or type) in an appropriate manner. Your tone is immature and vengeful and I do not appreciate it.
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1:42 pm
once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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2:23 am
As an investigative journalist, I think you should have researched the basic facts you present in this post before publishing it. It took me all of 60 seconds to go to IMDb and look up the ages of the actresses that play the female students. All of them are in their early twenties (most are 23), NOT late twenties or early thirties. If you go to the same website, you’ll find that the actor that plays Artie (the wheelchair-bound student) is in some sort of boy band. This would seem to indicate that he can, indeed, sing.
It might also be beneficial to research the numbers of college students, who earn scholarships through arts and sports before making blanket statements about which is more likely. I played basketball (varsity as a freshman), soccer (varsity as a freshman), volleyball and was on the swim team in high school. My sister participated in theatre and dance. Both of us went to academically-competitive schools (ranked higher than Ohio State and lower than Princeton). I received only academic scholarships, while my sister received both arts and academic scholarships. I haven’t done the statistical research, but I would expect that the likelihood of getting either an athletic or an arts scholarship greatly depends on the college and the talent of the student.
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2:25 am
I’m both disheartened and bewildered by this article, as well as many of the responses. It certainly begs the question; “Exactly what planet did some of you grow up on?”
Which one did you live on that simply allowed you to drift through life and avoid any difficulties as an adolescent? I’m unsure that many of you even recall what it was like to be that age, let alone the seriously tough choices that came with it — the defining choices that are not only unavoidable but forge us into stronger people.
This argument might have solid ground if not for one intrinsic fact. This is a show about HIGH SCHOOL. Have you ever been? Did you, by chance, happen to notice any recurring themes? Sex. Drugs. Violence. They’re everywhere and they aren’t going away. By covering your teenager’s eyes and ears, you’re not doing them justice. You’re not equipping them with the proper tools to make an informed decision about their own lives, and worse yet, you’re spelling out that you don’t trust them to come to their own conclusions and make educated choices.
This show is all about the tough choices.
Yes, it’s fun and musical and bright and happy on the outside. But that’s what society is. You have to rip off the pretentious, shiny paper to get to what is really underneath; imperfections, fears, questions, heavy emotions, self doubt, confusion, sexuality, pressure. That is who we are : we’re HUMAN. And that is part of what the show is attempting to magnify. Your teenagers are dealing with these issues every day, whether they tell you or not. They are confronted with drugs, sexuality (both straight and homosexual), alcohol, violence (as a result of confusion/fear/anger) and every day they have to decide what path is right for them. They’re surrounded on all sides and being pressured by everyone who all want them to take different directions. Can you imagine being that torn? You should try to because I remember it like it was just yesterday. But thankfully I had parents who wanted me to know and understand and see as much about those choices as I could so that when the ball dropped in my court, I could simply pick it up with ease and consideration, then serve it into whichever direction I knew was right for me.
By blaming a show for themes which already exist right now in your homes and schools is irresponsible. If you’re unhappy with society (or one of the various facets) — own it. Step up and fight to change it. Don’t post a web article slandering a television show that is meant to say, loud and clear, to the kids of today, “I understand.” It’s taking the scary topics that they can’t talk about and it’s making them less scary. Whether you know it or not, this show is helping them. And no matter if it goes on or not (which it is highly liable to) you have not erased the issues it has spotlighted. Keep that in mind while you’re going about blaming it for problems that have existed well before it ever came out.
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8:39 am
Dear Destiny,
I indeed had a positive childhood experience but I’m not sure why that matters here. I was a successful high school football athlete and to this day, it still remains an important aspect of my life. I often reflect back on my days on the field and the lessons I learned there with joy. It taught me the importance of teamwork and competition, of being properly socialized within your peer group and of meeting new people. I do use that background when approaching a subject like this show Glee, but it’s not the only thing I use. Of course my Christian faith and my work counseling teens in my church outreach also has taught me about the issues kids face today. And my journalism, of course. So you can see I have a great deal of resources to draw on when I speak about the health and mental state of young people today.
Stephenson
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10:24 am
too bad they are aparently all as usefull as my ass huh?
hello do you see us the enromous amaount of people telling you that you are an idiot? yes thats right we are the people with the problems you talk about. but for some strange reason WE HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT!!!!
once again i’ll refer to the fact that whille you may be doing this to help all you do is hurt. you ideals are fine and all but the rest of the world does not share them and forcing your ideals on others is the most harmful thing you can do…well just consider how you fell when people start explaing there’s no god.
the feeling you get when a non-relegious person asuluts your faith is the EXACT same thing you do to us every time you post an article.
do unto other what you want done unto you is perfect quote for this situation as whille you’d love for everyone to agree with you thats not the point here. but the fact that you post your own openion as fact. and then cry like a baby when we do the same.
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10:53 am
Jazzy, have you ever watched this show? I suspect they don’t play it in Europe. You really should see it before you try to defend its questionable content. I must also say that your comments over time are becoming more and more deranged and irrational. I don’t know what wild world you live in, but please try to calm down once in a while. You’re throwing strong language and anarchist views out there and it’s not productive. I realize many children today experiment with drugs out of peer pressure, but ultimately this is a serious dead end street. You harm yourself and those around you. I have counseled several teens with this addiction problem and they struggle with rebelling against every authority figure they come across. They find comfort in death metal and grunge concerts and black nail polish, that whole anarchist lifestyle thing. Well, take a step back and you’ll realize these goth kids just look silly. On top of that, they attack every adult around them who symbolizes maturity and intelligence and morality and success. They think it’s cool and fun and waste their days hanging out in the parking lot at the mall. But the truth is that the drugs aren’t making them cool, they’re ruining their lives. I hope and pray you stay away from drugs.
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11:54 am
Glee is shown in Europe. It is actually shown all around the world (another fact you did not find in your “research”).
I actually do know those who are in the Goth lifestyle, and now YOU are commenting on what they wear and what they are doing?
Have you ever heard about TREATING OTHERS THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED?
Also, you are assuming that most teens today are partying hard and doing drugs and experimenting.
Yes, it is different times and they have changed since you were high school, but don’t assume that all teens are doing things like that.
You keep saying you did football in high school and you had a positive high school experience. So are you saying that you never felt like these people on the show? That you do not know what it is like to be an underdog? Let me tell you, unless you have felt like one in the past, you would not understand the show. Now I am just asking why you decided to even watch it in the first place? If you did not have a connection to it, why and how did you decide to watch and “research” on this? Did someone tell you about the show and only watched the episodes that caused controversy (since you did say that you did not watch all, only some)?
Do you understand what kind of effect this show can do to people? It gives people hope and faith in themselves to be proud of who they are and that it’s ok to be different. It gives them a getaway for an hour from maybe a reality they wished that they were not in. I know for me it is.
I apologize if I have offended you or how you live your life. But as I said before, you needed to do more extensive research before posting. Look at the outcry you have caused. Think about the opposition to your opinion and aknowlege them, knowing that they do not feel the same, but you are open to other people’s opinion.
I do commend my fello Gleeks for speaking their mind, but please try to be respectful as well as stating your opinion and pleading the case.
~Tracy
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11:56 am
let’s make 1 thing perfectly clear. i do not do drugs. nor have i ever had the intention nor will i ever have it. why? because i’m simply too smart. i know it ruins lives.
but thats not the argument.
strong language? ofcourse it’s my way of putting a bit of punch after my words. it’s an insult. and it’s part of my normal language though i’m rarely this harsh.
finally no i never saw the show. most likely i’d hate it if i did. thats why i don’t defend anything about whats in the show. i simply defends peoples right to watch what they want. the same right you have to read your bible defend these kids right to watch this show.
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2:01 pm
Jazzy, honestly you lack self control. I find it disconcerting. I hope and pray some day you grow up and find a woman to make happy. And please calm down you nutty rants. I can’t hardly tell what sort of insanity you mean half the time. It’s like talking to a sleepy crack addict through a bus window.
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3:20 pm
So how many sleepy crack addicts have you spoken to through bus windows? Just curious, Mr. Billings.
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9:19 pm
why do i lack selfcontrol? because i say my openion? in that case you lack it aswell.
and you’re the one who insulted me simply because you can’t win and arguement with me by actually discusing and therefor have to sink to personal insults. i’ll admit i do the same but at least i acopany my insults with logical arguments.
i will once again ask why is it helping when you do it but unaceptable behaviour when we do it?(talking about telling people how to live their lives)
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This is crazy. I am a christian and I strongly believe that a small number of people who say they are christians push homosexuals away. Sometimes violently.I see nothing bad about being homosexual. I saw a part that said orgies and bathroom sex? That’s a stereotype. Many of my christian friends have no problem with any kind of sexuality. I also read that the show gives no choice to stop being gay? You can’t stop being who you are. There are so many questions about Christianity. A quote of what the gay character in glee, Kurt, said before was that he didn’t see God as loving and forgiving because the church doesn’t take too kindly to his sexuality. Also why did God make him gay just to be bullied and scorned? This is a time where prayer comes handy and where God should intervene. However God makes no mistakes.
Another thing, I’m 16 and I love this show. I don’t find much of the show offensive since I can see it happening. Teens drink, smoke, drink, and have sex. Not everyone does though. I am not influenced to do anything they show on glee. Glee seems so controversial but practically every show on tv can be innappropriate. Would parents just let their teens watch sesame street and none else? What can parents hide from us that we can’t find ourselves? If you want advice, just talk to your kids about the dangers and consequences. I know for a fact that the more restrictive and closed off a parent is the more likely their kids will go wild. From experience I have seen it happen all the time.
Last thing. I know people who look up to the characters. I know bullys. After watching glee and although not all some toned themselves down because after seeing themselves in the characters it looked horrible. I was not raised in a neglective family. I was raised in reality.
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2:25 am
LOL this article is hilarious!!!
Although it worries me that there probably are (insane) people who think like this.
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Where to begin. No, you know what, I won’t even begin anywhere. I’d just like to say that the majority of statements in this article are false, and what’s even worse: they are presented as facts.
What’s the most offensive thing is the comments regarding the gay character Kurt Hummel. The article continually adresses being gay as the wrong kind of behaviour. To equate being gay to terrorism, be it intellectual or whatever term you use, is just WRONG! And puts the entire article in perspective. Apparently you can’t do much more then judge people, using your religion as an excuse! Which is extremely shamefull.
Shame on you, and hooray for Glee, tackling topics that need to be discussed, not ignored, like they have been for the past 50 years.
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8:47 am
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” –1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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7:14 pm
“You gotta put your behind in your past.” – Pumbaa, “The Lion King”
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7:19 pm
“What you are is a question only you can answer.” – Lois McMaster Bold
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11:38 am
“If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.” -Exodus, 21:2
Can Artie, wheelchair actually buy Jewish Rachel? Is there a limit to the number of Hebrew slaves one may purchase? I’d like to do some remodeling, so the more, the merrier.
But seriously, if you are concerned about children being exposed to horrific acts of sex and violence and fantasy, you should really be pushing for a ban of the Bible. Read it?
“When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.” -Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Violent much?
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“Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father.” -Genesis 19:30-32
Incest that was the result of what amounts to date rape of the elderly! This after Lot had offered his daughters up for gang-rape, which was followed by the transformation of Lot’s wife into a *pillar of salt* just because she looked back at a city she was fleeing. What good, clean, wholesome fun!
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“… I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the Hekhal (sanctuary). Above Him stood the Seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.” -Isaiah 6:1-3
Now THAT sounds like fantasy!
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9:38 am
This is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read,XD!
Can you make a review of True Blood or Supernatural?That’d be priceless,LOL!
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oh yeah that’d be glorious especially if he actually goes all the way to the new season of supernatural. i’d love to hear this idiots openion ont hat show.
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10:21 am
Even better: Twilight xD
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You FOOL! Don’t bring up Twilight! The lulz will rip apart space-time and create worm holes!
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10:59 am
I would really like a review of True Blood on this site!!!!
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10:26 am
Looks like somebody is still bitter they didn’t get the lead in Oliver!
Seriously, you should submit this to The Onion because I got a good laugh.
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10:32 am
Also, I find your overwhelming use of bold and underlining to be gratuitous and in bad taste. But I suppose that matches the article.
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10:47 am
They’re called hyperlinks. They take you to other website articles that substaniate my research.
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I am aware of what a hyperlink is. The items in red are hyperlinks, underlined/bold or not. Most of your article is convoluted with underlined or bold phrases that are not hyperlinks. As a reader this is irritating and misleading.
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Agreed. You would never find a real journalist who felt the need to emphasize every other sentence in his article.
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7:24 pm
In this article written by my sister (who is currently in her senior year at American University for print journalism), you’ll notice that there are no words underlined or in bold.
http://www.ivorytowerz.com/2007/01/invisible-government.html
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7:55 pm
what kind of last name is Snedeker anyway? always did have you pegged as a minority…
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11:19 am
Hey Steve,
Instead of doing such great works on how tv characters are making kids gay…why dont you just go find another kids party to work.
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6:49 am
Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!
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4:24 pm
“Very funny, but actually with the Spring coming up I am excited. That’s kid’s birthday party season!”
It’s not appropriate for an unmarried, childless, 60-something year old man with a resemblance to John Wayne Gacey to say something like that. You keep denying that you’re a pedophile, but you’re only digging yourself into a hole by saying those sorts of things about children. Then you go and accuse other people of having unnatural attractions towards kids. Parents should have warning bells going off in their heads upon reading something like that.
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11:42 am
Where is your mind at anyway? Please get your facts straight and stop trying to make yourself into some kind of Savior! Lea Michelle (Rachael) is 23 years old not 30! Stop being a Pompas Ass!
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1:26 pm
Your inaccurate and twisted critique would be funny if it wasn’t so terrifying.
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1:27 pm
Everyone keeps posting about facts. Here’s some. I have never watched Glee. I am adult, with a college degree. I studied theatre for a little while, but my degree is in Business Management. (And yes, it’s spelled “-re” at the end. Blame the University.) I run a youth drama ministry at my church, for middle school students. Some of them watch, and adore, this show.
I can understand one’s concern over the issues you’ve presented. The fact is, tat whether or not this accurately depicts high school is immaterial. The show is fiction, which is relatively obvious to those who watch it. In fantasy, high school can be anything anyone wants it to be. Therein lies the draw. Disney’s High School Musical, a multi-million dollar franchise, isn’t accurate either. But it’s what people want to see. Glee represents what Dirty Dancing represented. What all fiction represents. What we want. What we think we want, even if, were we to ever actually get it, wouldn’t it anymore.
Gays, Lesbians, Homosexuals… it’s not going away. Taking it off of television, making it taboo… that’s not going to make it stop. You don’t have to agree with it, but you should respect the person. Love the person, hate the sin. Everybody sins. Jesus loves us anyway. God waits to judge people until they’re dead. We shouldn’t judge other people at all. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Love everyone. The gays, the lesbians, the women having their abortions. Pray for them, by all means. It’s going to go to a higher court, anyway. And there it will be judged by the one whose opinion matters.
And in the meantime? I would recommend you stop watching a television show you clearly dislike. I’m sure there are better things you can do with your time.
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1:41 pm
As satire this isn’t exactly Onion material. It isn’t funny just a caricature of the ugly ignorance that is religious intolerance. Whatever the aim it fails, as “research” with more holes than a miniature golf course or as satire that only succeeds in provoking reaction not laughter. It’s missing the funny Steve. Hits yes, laughs no.
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1:47 pm
I am re-posting this from a little ways up to ensure that the author sees it and doesn’t try to avoid yet another post:
once again you have avoided the questions about your credibility that I have posed. whether or not you perceive my tone to be immature or not is irrelevant, and I felt your own response was quite immature by completely skirting the real issues. you, sir, are an ass.
here is one last chance to prove to me that you have any sort of journalistic integrity– PLEASE ADDRESS THE MANY ERRORS IN YOUR ARTICLE AND FIX THEM!
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1:57 pm
I am not a DJ and I don’t take “requests” thank you very much. I stand by my article and want you people to stop spamming me with your hate. Frankly I’m getting sick and tired of you people trying to twist and turn my article away from the deeper truths that I conveyed– namely that the show Glee is a terrible influence on children today and should be taken off the air. I know you hysterical fans have intimidated the decent people from posting their support of my views and I don’t think that’s fair. You’re all obviously so obsessed with this show that you can’t understand the effect it’s having on your lifestyle. And why are you so uppity? Demanding this and that from me? You sound a bit unhinged, honestly.
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1:08 am
outrageous. demanding that you stand by your claims and defend them when confronted with a counter argument?
seriously you spew this crap then fly on saying “but i’m right and i can prove it by saying i’m right…and since i’m right that means me being right has to be right.”
it’s retaret and quite frankly you’re insluting our intelligence.
maybe the reason your suports don’t write here is because they don’t exists. that thought ever crosed your mind?
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8:36 am
“I stand by my article and want you people to stop spamming me with your hate. Frankly I’m getting sick and tired of you people trying to twist and turn my article away from the deeper truths that I conveyed”
That’s wonderful that you stand by your article and that you believe so vehemently in its message. However, there are a few things wrong:
1) You put this article up on the internet for public consumption as well as public debate, as this website allows readers to comment on what they read. Please do not be upset that others do not share your somewhat extreme opinions about the show.
2) Since this article is meant to inform parents about Glee, perhaps it would have been beneficial to cite proper facts about the show (i.e. the age of the cast members) and include sources. If you expect parents to read this article and take your recommendations seriously, a good place to begin would be to lay a foundation of trust with the readers instead of presenting them with untrue information. While you are correct in that some of the untrue claims that this article makes do not deter from the article’s message, they highly affect the article’s credibility.
I hope that you do not take this as a personal attack, as I have refrained from commenting about my personal views on the message of the article or on Glee in general, and as such, you can have no idea where I stand. But please do not get “sick and tired” of people correcting the basic facts that you have lacked to include in your article.
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3:33 pm
its people like you, mr billings, who make me embarrassed to be christian. you have done the same job as the man on the crowded street who screams at people as they walk past ‘if you are not christian, you will burn in hell’ – embarrass this religion.
this television show is not appropriate for children of all ages, no one disagrees with you on that. all you have done with this article is insult the actors and actresses, and pick on aspects of the show that are not relevant to the point you are trying to make. i do not understand how a older looking actress playing a teenager, or an actor who lip synchs, or strong willed, confident black woman are at all relevant to whether or not this show is appropriate for children of all ages.
to be an investigative journalist requires some investigation of facts on your behalf, billings.
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5:11 pm
Lea Michele is 23 – not 30. Check your facts. And give me a show that uses actual teenagers that focuses on high schoolers. It’s the reality, mainly due to child labor laws. And even though I haven’t read the article yet, “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals” – nothing could be further from the truth. GLBT individuals are born that way. Shows like the Golden Girls allow people to be true to themselves. Forcing people to stay “in the closet” does nothing but enourage bad behavior (see Larry Craig, Jim McGreevey, Mark Foley, etc). I’m gay, and there’s not a question in my mind. Stop using religion to preach against equality!!
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5:45 pm
Stephenson,
First, you’re an excellent blogger because you’re gotten a lot of debate, which I think would indicate that you’re a good blogger. On the other hand…
I feel as though people need to relax about a television show. Remember: TVs have an on/off switch. If you’re that concerned about the content on television, turn it off. If you can’t think of creative ways to get your children involved in other activities without coaxing them with television, then perhaps you need to examine the issue further. Spend time with your kids. Parent oftentimes get angry with the programming, when in reality, if they’d stop focusing on the “wrongs” in society, they might find that they *CAN* raise “untainted” children.
Stress causes depression and heart attacks. Stressing over something so trivial in nature is silly. Stress about things that really matter. Television is not a necessity to life, however, water is. Pick a topic worth ranting about, and do something about it. You can’t change what’s on television, so change something you have control over.
Just say no to stress and topics not worth having a heart attack over.
And yes, the coach with short shorts is hysterical! My middle school coaches wore shorts like that everyday, and all I could do was laugh and think, “Umm… srsly? WHY?! Wear some highwaters, capris… ANYTHING but those short shorts…”
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9:03 pm
I AM NOT A BLOGGER. I AM AN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST. PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE MAKING SUCH INVALID ACCUSATIONS.
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10:29 pm
Billings, you realize that you just flew off the handle at someone who wrote a very thoughtful, polite response to your article, right?
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12:41 am
the definition of blogger na dthe definition of investigative journalist diagrees with you.
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12:14 am
“PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE MAKING SUCH INVALID ACCUSATIONS.”
Pot, kettle, black. Any questions?
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5:55 pm
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA.
Funniest post on the internet.
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6:04 pm
By the way, Stephenson… you talk about homosexuality a lot. And when I say a lot, I mean A LOT. You’re also dwelling quite a bit on the shower scenes, going into particular details about men with tight biceps, lathering themselves…
Are there some unfulfilled desires going on here? I’m not flaming you, I’m genuinely wondering. Most men who are comfortable with themselves and their sexuality don’t take so much time to point out why homosexuality is bad. They don’t need to.
Just a question. A lot of men question their sexual desires at times, and that’s natural. It doesn’t mean you’re gay. If you have desires, you’re perfectly natural and God does not love you any less!
Love to you and all you carry in your heart!
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9:10 pm
I am a loud and proud Heterosexual, thank you very much. I have written that again and again but you people don’t seem to comprehend what that means. As a Christian and an AMERICAN, I do have a backbone of morality and tradition that informs my journalism and it helps me delve into subjects such as homosexuality. I do not like homosexuality, nor do I like writing about it, but I feel I have an obligation to bring the facts to light about this outrageous lifestyle choice. Many kids think it’s cool to go gay. They use it as a way to rebel against their families or school teachers. Others are led into the homosexual lifestyle through peer pressure or the media (as in Glee). The problem arises 5 or 10 years down the road when the boy realizes he can’t shake the gay lifestyle, that it’s become such a part of him that he wouldn’t know the first thing about approaching a real woman. That’s how boys get stuck in this world. I want to help them avoid falling into that dark, slimy pit of carnal destruction in the first place.
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10:30 pm
The last time I checked my Bible, any sex, hetero- or homosexual, was unclean when performed outside the marriage bed. One is not worse than the other. Let’s shoot for monogamist relations, not just heterosexual ones, hmm?
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10:39 pm
Billings, you couldn’t be more wrong about the origins of homosexuality. As my gay friend said, why on earth would he CHOOSE to be gay? Why would he WANT to be part of a group that is hated and discriminated against so horribly by people such as yourself? As someone who was in high school recently enough that I actually have a clear recollection of it, I can say that NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, finds it “cool” to be gay, anymore than people find it “cool” to be straight. Did you choose to be straight, Billings? Did you wake up one morning and say to yourself, “hmm, I’ve decided I’m going to like women”? Well, gay people didn’t wake up and say “hmm, I’ve decided I’m going to like other men”. Gay people, just like straight people, feel an attraction that they simply cannot “wish away”.
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10:56 pm
this. absolutely this.
i don’t even know why billings bothers responding, if he’s going to dodge every comment to spout some random insult from the top of his head.
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3:43 am
You are so absolutely ridiculous. It makes me phsyically sick seeing that there are people like you in this world. It’s people like you the producers make this show for so that you can see the challenges that people different than you have. This show is not promoting homosexuality or anything else that you have mentioned. Their main goal is to show what high school students go through on a daily basis. If you think that the things that happen in this show aren’t real, or they’re too much for tv, you need to wake up because this is what is going on in high schools across the country. Don’t even try to tell me that you had a perfect experience in high school because it’s not possible. Why don’t you try remembering what it was like to go through the trauma of being in high school or heck I don’t know, put yourself in the shoes of someone on the show and think about how hard it would be to go through what they’re going through. Also, your dislike of gay and lesbian people disgusts me. We all know that a person doesn’t just “choose” to be gay, and it’s not possible for a person to become gay by being around or exposed to it. GIVE ME A BREAK
That’s how boys get stuck in this world. I want to help them avoid falling into that dark, slimy pit of carnal destruction in the first place. SERIOUSLY?! you have got to be kidding me. I’ve never been this angry about something that I’ve read. You need to take a step back a realize that this world is a great place because of all of the diversity we have.
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8:00 pm
“what kind of last name is Snedeker anyway? always did have you pegged as a minority…”
It’s Dutch, dickwad.
And the Dutch part of my family has been in America since the 1640s, so don’t even try to call me a foreigner.
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9:18 pm
Claire, regarding your sister’s anarchist attack “article” that you linked to above:
It does not surprise me that you would come from a family of left wing conspiracy theorists. Your sister writes with the same vigor and cluelessness as you do about the world of adult affairs. Honestly, it’s so easy to see monsters hiding behind every houseplant when you live such a sheltered, decadent life. But try and get outside and breath the air of reality. Meet the people of your community or your church, learn about what is hurting and destroying the world today. There are so many important issues that families are facing– from the rise of sexual promiscuousness, to homosexuality, to the Muslims, to the failing economy on Obama’s watch, etc. etc. I think you would be much more engaged and humane if you tried to understand this. As for your sister, I would say that her theories are completely without merit and have been disproven by common sense again and again. Your world view is clearly losing credibility. Look at the victory of Republican Senator Scott Brown in your state of Massachusetts! The recent supreme court victory against democrat campaign financing limitations as a limit on freedom of speech, the righteous defeats of homosexual “marriage” in Maine, New Jersey and New York (some of the most left wing and absurd states out there). We are on the march to victory! The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!
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10:59 pm
“Claire, regarding your sister’s anarchist attack “article” that you linked to above:”
Haha, funny how you put article in quotes, considering how your “articles” are nothing but rants about television shows and comedians that are riddled with typos, photoshopped pictures, and factual errors.
“It does not surprise me that you would come from a family of left wing conspiracy theorists.”
Well, it doesn’t exactly take a rocket scientist to figure out that left wingers most likely come from families of left wingers…
“Your sister writes with the same vigor and cluelessness as you do about the world of adult affairs.”
My sister could outsmart you in an argument about politics, society, and economics any day. I’d love to see her rip you a new asshole. Don’t mess with her when it comes to intelligence.
“Honestly, it’s so easy to see monsters hiding behind every houseplant when you live such a sheltered, decadent life.”
And what exactly makes you think that I live a “sheltered, decadent life”? Need I tell you, once again, about all the violence that takes place in my neighborhood and my city in general, or about the fact that I was bathing dying people at age 16?
“There are so many important issues that families are facing– from the rise of sexual promiscuousness, to homosexuality, to the Muslims, to the failing economy on Obama’s watch, etc. etc.”
Since you’re obviously senile, I’ll remind you once again that I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality. I’m also offended that you think that Muslims are harming families. If the existence of Islam is a threat to families, then so is the existence of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. The majority of my friends are Muslim, so don’t you dare say negative things about them, because they’ve never done anything to do.
“I think you would be much more engaged and humane if you tried to understand this.”
Humane? Now I’m not humane enough for you? I’m a fucking nursing assistant, animal lover, vet tech student, and animal shelter volunteer! I also give money to homeless people and donate blood twice a year.
“Look at the victory of Republican Senator Scott Brown in your state of Massachusetts!”
Don’t you dare put a fucking exclamation point at the end of that sentence.
“the righteous defeats of homosexual “marriage” in Maine, New Jersey and New York (some of the most left wing and absurd states out there).”
It’s marriage, not “marriage”. Don’t you dare try to minimize the loving union that my neighbors and many other homosexual couples share in Massachusetts.
“We are on the march to victory!”
Who is “we”?
“The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!”
How about you go eat another cheeseburger? Perhaps the cholesterol will finally catch up with you and a mammoth clot will form in your coronary artery.
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12:50 am
wow for once billings said something correct…well he didn’t really but it can at least prove he has part of the understanding.
“We are on the march to victory! The second American Revolution is happening and it’s happening now! You people will be on the wrong, THE WRONG side of history!”
whille wether or not there’s really a war and who is winning is completly ilogical to make any statements about he is completly correct that morals and justice is determined by the victor in such battels….however saying so is also admiting that christain morals ARE NOT of god but of the victors from previous “wars”.
but once again billings i’ll ask you. why should i follow you morals with the goal of liveing a happy life as a result if liveing by those morals make me misrable? why should i seek joy by denying myself joy? why should i seek comfort by denying comfort? why should i seek friendship in people i dislike when people i like are willing to be at my side? why should i lie to myself only so you can say that i’m liveing a happy lifë without haveing the slightes idea what i feel?
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9:00 pm
This article is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!
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9:16 pm
stephenson billings, i gotta say. you’ve got guts to post this article, and i’m guessing you knew full well that 99% of the comments on here would be directing disdain at you.
honestly, i think your article is full of holes and is complete and utter BS — my opinion. but it IS your OPINION, and i respect that.
what pisses me off is you, having the audacity to throw this article together, and present it to the internet as FACTS. it makes me want to cry. AND — oh, what a joke — you’re going to back up your “facts” with christianity, as if it gives you the right to be a complete ass.
oh, and since it looked like you had a blast bashing homosexuality, i felt like i should share some actual FACTS with you: being gay [or whatever your orientation is] is not a choice. watching GLEE [or ANY show, for that matter] will not change your sexuality. nothing can, and being gay is not a bad thing. there are plenty of gay christians, i can assure you of that. you can’t hide from it. gay people are the same as straight people, we [yeah, i'm gay] just prefer people of the same gender as us.
just like being straight isn’t a choice. you can’t help what gender you’re attracted to.
two things i want to close off: i realize that i don’t type with perfect grammar. i’ve grown into the habit of typing without caps when on forums/blogs/whatever. i know how to type properly, and if you respond with, “Oh, your sentences look unprofessional; I’ll ignore you now,” i will find a way to reach inside my computer so i can smack you.
and don’t you dare mention god or the bible or how being gay is a sin. i’m not going to hell because i don’t like girls. and if you still think i am, well, you can kiss my butt on the way down.
and i can’t resist adding that, from the looks of how this article was written, you, my friend, are SLOPPY! You’re a SLOPPY BABY! It’s just DISGRACEFUL! /lol
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Wow, thanks for the advice. I am so impressed a homosexual has taken time away from circuit parties and facebooking boys to actually do some reading. You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes. You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns. It is enough to make me cry! Why are the gays so mean? Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails. Why must you all be so condescending and verbose? It is not at all fair to an older man such as myself. I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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10:04 pm
way to completely avoid the actual topic to insult me.
“Wow, thanks for the advice. I am so impressed a homosexual has taken time away from circuit parties and facebooking boys to actually do some reading.”
-person, i don’t know what a circuit party IS, and i hate facebook. and i love reading, especially this article. it’s hilarious. just an FYI.
“You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes.”
-i don’t see how i was acting cute or funny [except for the sue sylvester quote at the end; THAT was funny]. and my lifestyle is not absurd, your opinion is. i live like a normal person, i’m just not attracted to girls. what a crime.
“You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns.”
-america is “marching down the path of destruction” because our government/economy is completely retarded, but we’re not discussing that. gay marriage isn’t destroying families. it’s like any other marriage, there’s just no reproduction. scary, isn’t it?
“It is enough to make me cry! Why are the gays so mean? Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails.”
-please don’t cry, your personality would just make it creepy. why are gays so mean? there you go, stereotyping and prejudicing. if someone is being “extreme” or “vicious” to you, well, you can hardly blame them. oh, by the way, i don’t polish my fingernails. it’s not really important to me.
“Why must you all be so condescending and verbose? It is not at all fair to an older man such as myself.”
-um, your age isn’t going to get you sympathy. and also, stop referring to every gay person that exists when talking, please. when there’s rape and murder and terrorism, i don’t blame every straight person, now, do i?
“I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.”
-i suggest you have a close member of your family slap some reality into you. calling yourself “decent” and “humble” is totally hypocritical.
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“You are absurd. Your lifestyle is absurd. No one finds it cute or funny. It’s just outrageous and it hurts my eyes. You people are the reason America is marching down the path of destruction with the way you’re trying to destroy families with your gay “marriage” nonsense and your visible homosexuality both on tv and on the streets of our towns. It is enough to make me cry!”
THIS, Billings, is why you have no friends.
“Why are the gays so mean?”
Because they don’t appreciate your telling them that they’re vile, disgusting, and that their lifestyle makes you sick. Ever consider that, Billings, before going and playing the victim card?
“Whenever I have actually encountered one or more, they frighten me with their extreme and vicious ways like they’re going to tear out my hair with their polished fingernails. Why must you all be so condescending and verbose?”
See my above comment. I have never met a mean homosexual. Remember the good ol’ Golden Rule? Do unto others what you would have them do unto you? Keep that in mind next time you meet some gays and perhaps they’ll be nice to you.
“I suggest you take a lengthy hard look at yourself before you attack a decent, humble man who only wants to helps tomorrow’s men.”
You are far from decent. In fact, you’re so INdecent, that you would be doing the world a favor by just putting a bullet in your head.
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6:29 am
Stephenson Billings, you are the worst excuse for a Christian I have ever seen. You completely ignore Christ’s words of love, but you already have so much hate in your heart that I doubt you can see this. I will pray for you, pray that you are able to open your heart, open your mind, and open your soul to love. Hatred, pride, and jealousy are terrible feelings. I know that. We have all experienced it. But it is when you go so far inside yourself that you think hating is righteous that you are truly in trouble.
Everyone, please join me in praying for Stephenson and resist sinking to his level and using low, common insults. With enough love from us and God he might rejoin our path.
God bless you!
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10:48 pm
After reading just this one comment, I feel as though you must be speaking sarcastically. How could you possibly be saying this seriously?
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9:30 pm
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
So now I am going to state mine.
But everyone can also use a search engine to check their facts. This article is an insult to journalism and bloggers everywhere.
Lea Michele is not 30.
Using a picture of Chris Colfer for an example of a character he plays is wrong.
There are too many errors to list.
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9:39 pm
This post is an awful example of true Christianity. I’m a Christian, one who is completely offended by what you’ve written. Yes, I agree that this show is not meant for children of all ages. I also know, that as an “investigative jornalist” you should actually do your research. As a former editor, I would never have let this article run due to all the obvious mistakes.
As a Christian I’ve been taught to love others. You, sir, are not doing that. I am not disrespecting your opinions at all, but I am disappointed in the way your article comes across. The number one rule of journalism is to do all your research. You did not do all your research, and this article is proof of that.
Yes, I watch GLEE for the entertainment factor. There is far worse on television right now. I have never been offended by something on this show, and I’m one that gets offended at PG-13 movies.
Finally, a Christian should not look down upon others. Take people and lift them up. These are confused teenages. What they need are impressionable adults lifting them up and comforting them. Emma, the guidance couselor, embraces the students and comforts them. Will encourages the students to be themselves and to love themselves.
The very idea that you take their very obvious flaws and condemn them makes me ashamed.
I don’t condone homosexuality, but I know when to keep my mouth shut as to not offend their lifestyle. I try to be like Christ in all that I do.
Finally, I’ve never read anything you’ve ever written, and I’m not going to. As a writer myself, I know that there are several different types of reporting. This, sir, is not a factual interpretation. It is your opinion, and you should not state it as fact. Once you watch all 13 episodes can you report on the factuality and realism on this show. It’s entertaining.
Thank you for your opinion, but don’t bash everyone who doesn’t agree with you. You have a right to your opinion as do I.
It’s too bad you can’t accept that there is more than one correct way to spell a word. I was taught to spell it theatre, and theatre is how it shall stay.
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10:08 pm
This is a hilarious article. Really, really funny. I actually laughed out loud several times. I also loved Stehenson Billings further comments that people who don’t fall in line with his thinking on this subject are “spamming me with your hate”. So funny! I hope you write more satire Billings. I hope that there are more “investigative journalists” out there that write articles where they have to make themselves watch Glee or say…porn. That will be the next article. I “had to” watch tons of porn as an investigative journalist. Just had to. Seriously, this is pure comedy. For all of you “Christians” convinced that Glee will be the downfall of humanity…TURN IT OFF!
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10:39 pm
Is “Skins” shown in the US? I would dearly love to read your thoughts on that award-winning TV drama…!
I particularly enjoyed the bible quotations you spouted as a defense of your homophobia. The Bible was written by man hundreds of years after the events described in it, it went through several incarnations and was translated into modern english by man. Man is fallible & can only write what he knows, thus it should not be taken literally.
FYI this is not an attack on the Bible or Christianity as both have important teachings (forgiveness & love being 2 you might want to re-cap on).
Finally, as a Brit the correct spelling is “theatre”. And no, I don’t use that spelling because I feel I it makes me “smarter” than yourself or other Americans, I use it because in the UK it is the correct spelling, if I was in America I would no doubt use “theater”.
PS Just so you don’t immaturely shoot down my comments as you have with others; I am an adult, I have 1 child, 3 academic degrees (BSc, MSc, PhD) and have had several pieces published in national newspapers, which I assume qualifies me as a journalist.
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12:03 am
actually, if I may be so blunt, I find this one of the least offensive things I have seen.
‘It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.”‘
This however, offends me to the core. I absolutely cannot stand it when people look down on the arts. You can have a very succesful life and career based on the arts and, being an aspring artist & writer myself, requires just as much training and practice as anything else. You can not just sit yourself down and right a bestseller.
As for your comment on Quinn being a ‘bad role-model’. I have seen so much worse. She does not even consider abortion as an option, and in the most recent episode ‘Sectionals’ she tells Puck she’ll ‘do it on her own’, in regard to having the baby. That single line made my resepect for her skyrocket. Compare that to Bella Swan of ‘Twilight’: Clingly, mean, and emotional wreck when away from her ‘perfect’ Edward.
On to Artie. He is, without a doubt, one of my favorite characters on the show. The ‘lip-syncing’ you complain about, is false. All the music is pre-recorded with their actual voices and then played over the filming. It’s normal for the lip-synching to be off sometimes.
Also, He does not need a sidekick or catchphrase. Just more numbers by himself like ‘Dancing With Myself’.
As for Kurt, you seem to be extremly closed minded about this. I’m christian myself and have read the bible, and does it not say ‘love thy neighbor’? Kurt is one character on one television program. I hardly think he’s going to convert all of America’s youth. You do not see me going around and hitting things with keys because that’s the weapon in Kingdom Hearts.
Also, his style of dress is one of the best things about his character. Just because someone does not dress according to what crazy magazines say does not make them a horrible person. Bright colors are the best thing ever.
Also, it’s a musical so there are supposed to be musical numbers.
a last note.
‘is devoid of gun violence’
actaully, I really like that about this show. No one dies.
sincerly,
Kelly, logical fourteen year old.
If you are worried about negative effects about America, look at Twilight. That book is much more a problem then Glee.
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12:17 am
“right a bestseller” !?! Oh Kelly, you’re so young! Why don’t you forward this article to your parents, okay sport? I think they should take a look.
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so an eroor like that in a post is enough reason to disregard it completly? allright people move along billings have just admitted we should not care what he writes.
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4:53 pm
I apologize for the grammer mistake.
however, if I may so, you sir have very poor debating skills. In all honesty you remind me of the behavior of Starbucks in a suit a teenage worer filed against them. You resort to personal insults, attacks, and intimidation instead of the issues at hand.
Also, for your information, my mother watches Glee with me every week. If she did not want me watching it, she could have said so at any time.
I pray you can come to respect people who chose note to follow paths set my close-minded folks such as yourself.
(ironicly, my itunes started playing the Glee soundtrack as I typed this.)
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1:09 am
oh jesus i just realised just how hypocritical this idiot is
“They are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true”
yet in your last post you said that it is right now NECECARY THAT KIDS DREAM AND THAT THEY DREAM BIG!!! yet you condem a tv-show for telling them to do that?
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You are completely fucking insane. In conclusion, Glee is a completely awesome show and you are full of bullshite.
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So, I read this article with the assumption that it was written by a well-informed investigative reporter. I wasn’t sure what to think by the end. I mean, how can anyone who considers themselves informed write such nonsense? Continuing onto the comments and the replies that Mr. Billings gives to some of these comments, I came to a conclusion: Either this man is sincere in his bigoted opinions of minorities or he is sitting at home, reading these enraged comments to his friends, laughing his ass off that people believed him. I’m praying it’s the latter.
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You’re absolutely right, for a show about music it has far too much musical numbers in it.
Also, you say that the dancing isn’t realistic because “No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
I know for a fact, from all the actors on the show, there are four who had training, and they don’t play any of the lead roles. All the leads haven’t got that training, shocking right? As an Investigative Journalist you should probably know that kind of facts.
And forcing the actor who plays Kurt to kiss a guy or whatsoever? I think Chris can decide for himself if he feels comfortable, you know, he might even wants to do it? And I’m not an Investigative Journalist, but even I know that’s right, because in every interview Chris tells us how much he loves it to play Kurt, and how he wants a boyfriend for his character. No forcing there, right?
If you did any research AT ALL for this piece of work, you have to be the worst researcher ever. A person who writes this kind of stuff can’t call himself an investigative journalist.
I don’t think anyone can save you from all the hate you feel, and I feel sorry for you.
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8:26 am
If parents aren’t responsible enough to teach their children that a television show is not “real life” then the fault is with them, not Glee. You don’t like it? Don’t let them watch it. Simple as that.
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8:41 am
I’m 29, mother of none and single. I watch Glee and I see my high school. Sure, we weren’t choreographed (sp?) but we had some students with serious amounts of talent. My teachers weren’t all hardened, some genuinely tried with each and every one of us. We dealt with these issues in high school, this is a sad truth. Our friends had abortions. Our parents cheated on each other, lied to each other. Our friends had babies too young. Our friends were gay. Some of them did get hooked on drugs Through it all, we were always there for each other, whether it was to help a friend cope with knowing their parent had committed adultery or to lend a shoulder to cry on when someone had grasped the reality of killing their first child. I’m not saying it’s a kid’s show. But it is a reflection of what my generation experienced in high school, even if the people are too pretty and too perfect – such is life on TV. Folks who are up on their pedestals preaching can’t stop people from letting out all they feel about what they’ve experienced. Not unless they start killing them. Generation X, you had your turn to let out how you felt. Glee is a representative of Generation Y doing the same thing.
Rather than trying to condemn the show and take it off the air, I wonder…Would it be more appropriate to talk to your kids maybe about the bad things that sometimes happen in the world?
A television show is a drug…That I just cannot comprehend. Alcohol is a drug. Niccotine is a drug. Opiates are drugs. Last I checked, you don’t inject yourself with a television show. You choose to sit down and watch it, or you choose to change the channel, or you choose to dump your TV altogether. I just don’t know about people sometimes…
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8:19 pm
Jen, I really don’t need your life story here, but yes life is tough. Why, then, should we add to the misery of the world with a show such as Glee? It only promotes and celebrates the negative traits of humanity and instill them in the heads of children as interesting, cool and acceptable. i don’t see how that is right by any measure. As a Christian and a lover of my fellow man, I do feel a responsibility to speak out against the awful influence of that show. Why you people want to pillory me for that, I do not know. Maybe you fear the light I shine on your dark, private corner of the world?
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9:33 pm
you base i don’t know how many of your facts on your life why can’t we do the same thing for our counterarguemnts? if her life expirience is invalid for the argument so is yours.
the goal of the show is not to celebrate those things(at least not all of them) when the show is about drugs if it celebrates anything it celevrates kids will to say no or get over an adiction.
everything isn’t like the bible. it doesn’t need to be for what it’s about. it’s goal is to entertain and just because you do not find it entertaing does not mean it fails at that.
as for why we keep going at you for doing what you do? why do you wanna take our joys in life from us? answer that and maybe you’ll also find the aswer to your own question.(here’s a hint what we do to you is basicly what you do to us)
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10:08 pm
Jazzy, I wish you would stop trying to play the magical philosopher here on Christwire. You love turning my words around and attacking my personal, Christian experience. The truth is I am far older than you (and many of the other teens here) and I have seen much of the world and the world’s people. You guys should appreciate the fact that I am willing to share those worldviews with you now. Don’t go all psychological and try to undermine me with your liberal hate. I really do care about you! Listen, you sound like a decent young man and you definitely have the fire of self-righteousness burning up your belly, but why not take a step back and appreciate the insights of your elders? I have a moral foundation which has taken years to build. I can’t expect you to understand that. But have a little faith! Trust me when I say you won’t be sorry if you give your life to the Lord! And listen sometimes to the men you meet in life, men who care and love about you and only want the very best for your precious soul, no matter how much self-abuse you practice. Again, that offer of a camping trip is still on the table. Feel free to email me any time.
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11:08 pm
“Again, that offer of a camping trip is still on the table.”
NOBODY HERE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR SEXUAL ADVANCES. STOP HARASSING ALL THE YOUNG MEN ON THIS WEBSITE. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD.
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5:53 am
magic? i know logic is unfamiliar to you but to call it magic?
i make personal attacks because by doing what you do to us, to you i may make you understand why it is we are so much against you.
yes you are older than me and in truth considering other proples worldview is important. but i have come to the conclusion that you are an idiot.
me selfrigthous? i don’t belive i’m any better than any other man for what i belive. i do however belive i’m better than you for not enfrocing my belifs on others. i do not ask that you leave behind you christianity but that you stop makeing me follow it.
yes you have morals that doesn’t make you right. i too have morals does that mean everyone should listen to me?
and i won’t be sorry giveing my life to the lord? i don’t belive he exists and i hate wasteing my time. you can’t even phantom people being difrent from you can you? everyone must be the same right?
and i will always listen to what every person i meet have to say. that doesn’t mean i’ll blindly follow them. i’ll take what they say to consideration and if it sound logical i will make it part of my morals and life style. however your rants are devoid of logic. they are nothing but a man claiming to be the pinacle of humanity who expects everyone to live by his word. for some reason you see yourself as flawless and out of that logic everyone who isn’t like you must be flawed.
there is no universal truth. what we can do is live life in a way that makes us happy. if being a christain makes you happy good for you but i just don’t need it. i live by logic. if it’s not logical i can’t understand it. and christainity defies logic. liveing by it would make me misrable because i’d have no idea hwat i’m doing.
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10:07 am
As a PARENT I have no problem with Glee whatsoever. I notice you bring up Bugs Bunny…a show that had many gay moments between Bugs (an animal i might add)
as well as pure unedited fantastical violence. Also a show I absolutely wouldn’t miss as a child because it was hilarious. That must be why I like Glee
I miss the homosexuality of Bugs Bunny.
Theatre
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10:30 am
OK, this guy is complaining about Glee, yet we have a moron like Pat Robertson saying a country that just had a major Tragedy is to blame for their own earthquake. Sorry but even tho I believe in God I would like the 700 club off their air, I think they are way more dangrous that Glee.
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10:58 am
You seem incredibly paranoid that Glee is going to turn the typical American male (perhaps you?) into a bunch of prancing homesexuals who can’t go two hours without discussing their Prada loafers, singing showtunes, and having sex with each other.
“…steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap…softcore utopia”
“relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
Sounds to me like someone’s been closeted too long and is scared of succumbing to his long suppressed desired.
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8:03 pm
Ian, I think you are projecting your own insecurities and sexuality issues onto what you perceive in my writing. There is only a homosexual subtext when you are so obsessed with the gay lifestyle you imagine those demons hiding behind every bush in your life. Yes, I talk about the gay influence of this show. i wish I didn’t have to. It’s not something I enjoy, but I also feel it’s terribly necessary as part of my mission. I do think you have your own agenda here, and that’s to try and insult me. Isn’t it funny that left wingers all say they accept homosexuality, then use the label to supposedly smear or discriminate against someone else? In this case, you’re calling me “gay” as an insult because deep down in your heart you know it’s wrong. But it’s that hypocritical to your liberal life views? Think on that one, my friend.
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11:49 am
This is very funny. I’m assuming it’s satire; do be sure to send it to the writers of Glee so they can get a good laugh.
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2:18 pm
The only people stupider than the right-wing nutters this site parodies are the people so dim they don’t know it’s a parody. You’re on the same level as conservatives who think Colbert is supporting them, not mocking them.
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2:54 pm
I didn’t even make it through the whole article and I know it’s full of crap. I have seen every episode of this series and openly scoffed at some of the things you have said. Shame on you for branding something as ‘evil’ without even watching it. It’s people like you that give Christians a bad name.
Stay classy.
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8:11 pm
And it’s people like you who sat on their hands when fascists marched to power.
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4:03 pm
And its people like you who became the Nazis
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4:12 pm
How about instead of demanding television shows be taken off the air, lets demand that people that can’t differentiate from fantasy and reality and think the realm of imagination is the most flawless and overcomplicated conspiracy ever ever specifically made to infringe on your personal ideals should not be allowed to watch television or have any input whatsoever on other people’s choices.
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8:08 pm
Dear Jack, I agree. It’s about time we heal the divisions in the country and work together to build a world we can be proud of! The clear desires and intelligence of America has been becoming more and more prominent lately. We want to move forward with a righteous policy in the Middle East, we don’t want a corrupt Congress to give free money to the bankers, we will not let this country’s health care system go down the tubes, we want REAL change in Washington. The future is happening. People are outraged. I think one great example of this is the victory of Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts. He has come to power on the wave of populist, heartland American sentiments. He is our future as are the other men just like him out there. Gay “marriage” has been defeated resoundingly in Maine, New York, New Jersey and that’s just the beginning. Despite the arrogant attempts to overturn Prop 8 in California by a bunch of high paid trial lawyers and those fringe “special interest” groups behind them, the hardworking decent Americans are winning. I am excited for a clean slate in our mid term elections. Time to upset the status quo!
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4:22 pm
hey buddy
settle down
glee is pretty good
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6:12 pm
Wow, you seem really obsessed with the football team, and their shower sequence. that’s… um.. well… pretty gay bro.
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7:11 pm
You do realize it’s a TV musical series, right? As in, the show is designed to showcase the musical numbers. So I don’t see how your criticism that there are far too many songs in a musical is a valid one. I agree with the instant gratification of these students being able to sight-read difficult musical arrangements, but expect this level of polish on a major network musical.
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8:00 pm
Robert, my criticism is a completely valid outgrowth of my work as a cultural analyst and writer. I believe the plot of this show suffers from all those silly little dance routines and the singing and I find it gets in the way of the plot, it slows down the plot and keeps the real action from happening. Who wants to watch those parts anyway? I tune out when they start singing, it’s like a desperate plea for my attention, a cry saying “Watch what I’m doing now!” coming from an unloved child who has been left alone on a community beach. I find it both unpleasant and unnecessary. But frankly, what does that point matter? Not only does the show lack substance, it lacks credibility. The dance spots don’t make it seem real at all, it just highlights who childish and fake this show is. Irregardless, it should be taken off the air anyway for the reasons I mentioned above (it’s offensive content, etc. etc.) so I don’t know why you people are so obsessed with my saying there’s too much dancing.
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5:57 am
the parts of the bible where jesus talks about moral and stuff like that should be cut from it. it slows down the plot.
billings if you watch a musical and don’t like the music and ancing aspect you are an idiot. it’s like going to the theater and complay that you have to watch actors. or go a resturant and complain that they serve food. or buy a car and comaplin it has wheels.
you don’t like musicals fine.i don’t like the bible. should we remove everything that somebody doesn’t like?
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8:54 pm
What is wrong with you? You find a man hugging his son “unseemly”?
How many of these episodes have you seen?
The sheer amount of people writing in to point out your stupidity should be a wake up call.
You spread your hate around and call yourself a Christian.
I give up on you and everyone like you. You’ve obviously been raised like this and are incapable of thinking either sympathetically or logically. Have fun in your closed minded hell.
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9:57 pm
Adia, I can’t explain why so many of these hysterical Glee “fans” have decided to spam my article and attempt to suppress my free speech. Maybe they’re afraid of the truth I speak, maybe they’re afraid of truly looking in the mirror at themselves. Or maybe it’s something more questionable– like they’re afraid others will learn that this show is a fraud and that people so consumed with watching it have a lot of problems that need to be addressed. Frankly, I suspect they’re hurt that someone has finally shaken them awake from their syrupy dream of a Glee-like fantasia. Yes, I am trying to show you people how immature you are. You only have one life to live, why throw it away being addicted to a make-believe world of sexual debauchery and youth?
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5:34 am
“You only have one life to live, why throw it away being addicted to a make-believe world of sexual debauchery and youth?”
i don’t know. why do you belive we should waste it following a non-exsiting entity. maybe just maybe we should use this one life doing stuff that makes us happy? yes you have the right to free speech that doesn’t mean we don’t have it too. and we use our free speech to tell you why we don’t like you just as you use it to tell us why you don’t like us. where is your proof that you speak the truth? why are you sure we have problems?
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10:34 pm
After reading this article (and being more insulted that I ever have in my entire life), I have to conclude that you are wary of finding out the real truth behind the motivations for such a show and would rather flaunt your so called “faith” in a God that doesn’t approve of anything, but you’re supposed “acceptable” lifestyle. If you were in the least bit educated, you would be aware that many studies have been done to show that sexuality is just like handedness and we are born with a predisposed attraction to a specific sex, regardless if people like you, who believe you are better than these very normal, loving people, disagree.
I am a 22 year old woman finishing my degree in English Literature where a major theme in so many of those works of art is indeed, homosexuality.
The message you and others like you, who consider yourselves superior for all the grace of your God, only inspire racism, bigotry, and ignorance.
Now, I know you may be thinking this young woman (of an inexperienced 22 years), doesn’t know what she is talking about and MY GOD doesn’t tolerate or accept these ridiculous expressions of homosexual love. Let me inform you that for seven years of my life I was a strict, legalistic variation of the Apostolic Pentecostal denomination. Before I left the hypocritical excuse of a house of God, I began to ask questions (at the unbelievable age of 15, believe it or not) and I guess you can predict that those questions could not be answered for me. All I found in this church was cynicism, judgment, and blatant hypocrisy. The best thing that ever happened to me was leaving this place of degradation and overt intolerance. I apologize if my vocabulary surpasses your understanding, you see, I’m aware that this type of motivation behind a piece like this is ignorance.
This church I belonged to had the most teenage pregnancies that I have ever seen in a group of young people. Also prevalent was the use of alcohol, drugs, not to mention the previous referenced sexual activity. Don’t blame your kids sexual curiosity on a show about a group of TEENAGERS (hardly thirty, you ignorant bigot) that found acceptance when they were outcasts in a judgmental high school.
It is this type of article that inspires such prejudice in our country. I’m done ranting because you or your backwoods, uneducated views aren’t worth my time. By the way, I, in no way, read this web page. It was posted via a social networking site as a disgraceful and reproachful excuse of journalism.
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11:00 pm
Why are you so afraid of love and wisdom? I am only here to share my faith with you. I find it so hypocritical that you liberals claim to be so accepting to diversity, and then when someone comes along with an idea you don’t like, you use every trick in the book to shout them down, make expressions of their faith illegal and generally turn this country into some politically-correct thought-police prison state. Well, guess what? You will not steal my freedom from me. You will not suppress my faith or my desire to speak truth to power!
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5:27 am
you’re wrong again. we still belive you have the right to belive what you want. but you don’t have the right to make your belifs affect us. just as we don’t have that right either.
we are afraid of your “love and wisdom” for the same reason you are afraid of ours. we disagree with your belifs. why is it you belive that we can’t be happy without liveing life the way you do? if liveing by those morals make you happy then i belive you should. but since it does not make me happy but rather makes me hate life i won’t live by them.
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12:00 am
Mr. Billings-
Are your arms tired yet? If I was you I’d be exhausted by now…….make the cast, set the hook, and reel ‘em in for all you’re worth. Jesus Christ on a fucking pogo stick, do none of these retards understand satire? An absolutely brilliant website…….I’m bookmarking this for when I need a good laugh at the fundies. Well played, sir, well played.
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1:14 am
First of all, you should know that I am a fellow Christian. I have been my entire life and have wrestled with my beliefs until I finally knew that they were solid, that they were mine. I believe in God. I believe in Christ. And because of that, it is REQUIRED that I believe in love.
This article and several of your responses to comments made by your readers unnerves me incredibly because of the lack of love. I wouldn’t be commenting if it were just an informative article on some uncomfortable themes present in the show Glee (which I do watch and I do like; it’s a matter of filtering. I understand that in any TV show there will be things I do and don’t agree with. I’m confident in the things I believe and when the day comes I look forward to answering whatever questions my kids may have about what they happened to see on TV. Obviously I won’t be shoving Kill Bill down their throats, but a show like Glee opens up a safe space to discuss the hard subjects).
But the reason why I’m commenting is that every response you have given to the comments here are only furthering the opposing arguments. Your comments have been quick to anger, attack, and judgement – to the very point of showing prejudice against the British spelling of “theatre”. I understand that it’s natural to feel defensive in these situations, but this is excessive and absolutely ineffective. And it’s the very thing that these comments are pointing out in your article.
Personally, I would be more quick to listen to your thoughts if you were quicker to listen to mine. And I don’t mean that as an attack. What I’m trying to say is that there are more respectful ways of going about the argument that you have instigated.
At the risk of serious cheesiness;
Love your neighbour as yourself.
The greatest of these is love.
God is love.
I know you recognize these, so please understand why it is that I’m embarrassed at your lack of application.
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3:12 am
“Love thy neighbor” eh? What if thy neighbor is a pedophile or a serial killer? I am sorry to break this to you, but “love thy neighbor” and “do not cast stones” are two of the most overused and mistakenly construed elements of the Bible. You have to understand Christianity and the Bible are a guide to how we live our lives. You cannot side step or forget that. The whole “love” nonsense is used by liberals to try to discredit the wonderful foundation of Christianity. And you know what? Sometimes we have to judge, particularly when it’s a bunch of radical democrat atheists who are throwing slander and pedophilia our way. Because you know what? That’s what they want. They want to legalize hookers and free health care and illegal aliens and sex with children and all sorts of evil. Well, I’m sorry but it’s about time the informed and intelligent and moral amongst us speak up! Yes, I have to be tough on these perverts because what they’re doing is disgusting. They’re destroying society, they’re insulting America and they’re denying Christian faith. So don’t tell me I’m not a good Christian. I am as good a Christian as you may meet because I’m actually dedicated to making this world a better place. if you’re too weak and pathetic to accept that, then that’s your failure (before the eyes of the Lord!). We are made to be advocates of faith and righteousness. If you give up on that fight because you might lose your friends or you husband might argue with you, then you don’t sincerely believe. Don’t lie to yourself and don’t live to me. I’m sick of you fake people pretending you have a clue about morality.
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3:50 am
Who is the fool? The jester who makes a jest, or the person who mistakes the jest for candor and calls the jester a fool?
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3:37 am
I’m really surprised a self-described “journalist” who is particular about “proper” english wouldn’t know that “irregardless” isn’t a real word.
People like you have made me become an atheist but nothing I’ve ever seen or experienced has ever made me become gay. So obviously, religion is much more of a tenuous choice than sexuality. FYI- I’m a 45 year old hetero woman so you can’t blame youth or orientation for my attitude towards your backwards views.
It’s really sad that religion is more often wielded for hate than for love.
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5:43 am
Irregardless isn’t a word? Oh, you must be plenty smart! Where did you learn this garbage? Did you even bother to consult a dictionary before you lied to the world?
DEFINITION:
ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose.
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12:31 am
So you copy and pasted from dictionary.com?
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10:56 pm
As has been pointed out to you before, please include THE ENTIRE entry if you’re going to copy and paste from Merriam Webster’s Web site.
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
See that last sentence again: Use regardless instead.
And again: Use regardless instead.
One more time because you’re old: Use regardless instead.
While you are correct that it IS a word, use of “irregardless” is considered improper English. If you’re going to profess to be an investigative journalist, have at least a small amount of credibility in your statements. M’kay?
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11:06 pm
“Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.” –Ephesians 6:4.
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11:18 pm
“Copperdome bodhi drip a silver kimono, / Like a crazy quilt stargown through a dream night wind.” –Robert Hunter
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5:08 am
PEOPLE! Calm down. a simple google search will make it clear that this is satire. Nobody on the internet is this retarded.
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5:36 am
I have been incredibly decent and reserved thus far but you know I’m starting to get a little exhausted by you people. Honestly, I am trying to help and all you want to do is spam me so hard my own opinions get drowned out by your hate and dissent. I did a great deal of research for this news piece. I have years beyond most of you teens living in the REAL WORLD. I am a man who has only shown a love to others, a love founded on many years of faith and education, based on an incredible aspect of American history, namely Christianity and the Bible. Don’t try your discrimination tactics on me. I am sincere and faithful and I don’t get these childish claims that I am not who I say I am. I am frankly disgusted by you all. So obessed and concerned and dedicated to some second rate tv show more than you are to your own mothers and children. You should truly all be ashamed of yourselves. It’s just a tv show! If only Americans were so in love with Patriotism and Progress and Morality, this country would be a far better place. You people don’t seem to have the time to vote or go to church or donate to Haiti relief, but you have plenty of time to mold with your couch while shows like Glee are on the air. How do you think you parents would see you? You’ve become sloths, failures, defeatists who are willing to give up for your bathroom breaks at commercials. Whatever happened to the true American traditions of family and love and good government and faith? You people are honestly disgusting and stop trying to disparage me, just because I have love in my heart and need and want to share it! I am here trying to help you out of the chasm.
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5:48 am
1. I don’t hate you. I think you are hilarious.
2. Stop questioning my intelligence. You are hurting my feelings.
lovelovelove
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5:52 am
I have never in my life met someone so full of hate and despair.
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5:58 am
Shut your mouth, sir.
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what you give is what you’ll get back in return.
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2:01 pm
Hey look, the pedophile is talking about outing pedophiles!
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3:52 pm
“I have years beyond most of you teens living in the REAL WORLD.”
The real world? You mean your cozy little suburb in Tennessee? That’s hardly the real world.
“I am a man who has only shown a love to others”
Stereotyping gays as sex-crazed animals who want nothing more than to hump any warm body against bathroom walls is not what I consider to be showing them love.
“So obessed and concerned and dedicated to some second rate tv show more than you are to your own mothers and children.”
Considering how you just referred to the majority of posters on here as teens, I certainly hope that they don’t have children.
“It’s just a tv show!”
I don’t watch it, and in fact, I had never even heard of it until you wrote this “article”. But I’m defending it simply because, in your own words, “it’s just a tv show!”
“You people don’t seem to have the time to vote or go to church or donate to Haiti relief, but you have plenty of time to mold with your couch while shows like Glee are on the air.”
Oh give me a fucking break! Your comments are totally asinine and unfounded, especially the comment about church. You seem to have forgotten that not everybody in America is a Christian, or is even religious at all. Therefore your comment about not having time to go to church is null and void. And it’s funny how you mention having time to “mold with your couch”, considering how, judging from your picture, you’re not exactly “Mr. Fitness”. Fat hypocrite.
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6:49 pm
The Maine was sunk during McKinley’s presidency at the end of the 19th century. It was a episode of the Spanish-American war, not some 1950s Soviet incident as you strangely claim. The rest of your argument is so laughable it has no merit. Please do not try thinking so hard, you’re embarassing yourself.
Your writing style is incredibly self-important and pretentious. If you actually hope to make a living out of writing, I suggest first going to school (!) and also learning a tad of humility. A few months seeking out a cubicle in the American job market will surely humble you (particularly with your attitude!). Overall, I am disgusted by your disingenuous typing style. It most surely is the product of some indulgent liberal background. Well, the rest of the world knows you and your lifestyle are frauds and are too disconnected from the TRUE AMERICA.
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7:24 pm
“Your writing style is incredibly self-important and pretentious. If you actually hope to make a living out of writing, I suggest first going to school (!) and also learning a tad of humility.”
*tea sprays computer screen* Are you fucking serious??? Are you honestly suggesting that somebody else needs to learn some humility??? Three words: WHAT THE FUCK?
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7:28 pm
Sorry Claire, this response was to “Carrie” below. My response to you is below her comment.
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7:21 am
For all of you following out there:
“indulgent liberal background” = “well-educated”;
“True America” = “imaginary land in which everyone shares my warped perception of the world”; SEE ALSO “the South.”
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5:15 am
Next they will probably say the Tele-Tubbies are gay!!!
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11:02 am
Mr. Billings, your logic is unsound, and your journalism has no integrity. You repeatedly use techniques in this- and other!- articles that are much better suited to the op-ed page than to any actual newspaper piece. Yes, this is a Christian website, used to promote Christian values, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are writing sensationalist words with only perfunctory research to back them up. It’s reminiscent of how journalists reacted after the sinking of the Maine and during the 1950s with McCarthyism. Such writing only leads to fear and anger, and is tantamount to shouting “fire” in a crowded room. That’s terrible journalism that would get you terminated or at least suspended at any major print publication, because the way you present your “facts” could easily lead to them getting sued.
You are also very condescending, and resort to ad hominem attacks when people challenge the veracity of your facts. Instead of logically arguing against the points they raise, you simply ignore them and attack their being. That’s not good debating or being mature. It’s the kind of reaction the kids in my 9-year-old nephew’s class have. They can’t find anything to say, so they resort to “YOU’RE A POOPY STUPIDHEAD.” Although yours isn’t quite so immature, it certainly smacks of the same attitude. The condescension you also have towards teenagers and children is downright repugnant. This article was certainly meant for parents, but you should know that putting it on the internet opens it up to be read by anyone, and criticized in the same way. Criticism is part of writing, and someone doing so doesn’t constitute “spam”. If you had gone to any reputable college for any writing program, you would realize this.
I do not know where you went to journalism school, nor do I care. Nor will I respond to anything you write because I don’t feel like engaging in an online slapfight with someone who obviously prefers to hide in an ivory tower instead of facing the facts of the world today. I will say that your generalizations, your inadequate research, and your condescending/inflammatory language in both comments and article are what truly undermine your integrity and credibility.
I presume you will attack my education, my character, and my intelligence, so I will say this: I am in my fourth year of college. I have been working towards my bachelor’s in English language and literature, as well as in German. I am taking a year off at the end of this semester to immerse myself in German culture and language. My minor is in journalism, and I have plenty of experience in politics, covering the local entertainment industry, and working with the public. I volunteer at the soup kitchen and homeless shelters when I have time on the weekends. I’m a scholarship student who works 30 hours a week, and am engaged to a wonderful man. I grew up Christian and affiliate myself Republican although I do tend to vote moderately. I did vote for President Obama. I provide this information simply to dispel any notions that you will attempt to manufacture to discredit me.
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6:43 pm
Claire, you have a tremendous amount to learn about the real world. I realize it’s tough being young and wanting to be popular, but training yourself to be so loud and shrewd will not help you. I want you to travel down the path of beauty and faith. I want you to believe in things and have hope that the future will be better. I want you to know the love of Jesus Christ. He died for YOUR SINS! There are people out there ready to love YOU!
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8:14 pm
“I realize it’s tough being young and wanting to be popular”
I’ve already given my opinion on popularity and how I never wanted any of it. You’ll find my quote below:
“I couldn’t give a damn about “social success”. Frankly, the last thing that I’ve ever wanted is to be popular. All I need in life is my family, my cats, and a couple of friends who I share common interests with.”
“I want you to believe in things and have hope that the future will be better.”
Your notion that I’m an incredibly unhappy person is completely unfounded. Just because I don’t believe in god and in Jesus, and that I support the right of gay people to be happy makes me UNhappy? Are you on glue or something?
“I want you to know the love of Jesus Christ.”
Well I don’t. And considering how it’s MY life, what I say goes. The last thing I’m going to allow is for some fat, ugly pedophile to insinuate himself into my life. Yuck.
“He died for YOUR SINS!”
Hmm, I don’t recall being around 2,000 years ago, nor do I recall ever sinning. Feel free to go and live by your little book of fairytales, but keep me out of it.
“There are people out there ready to love YOU!”
That remark is not only repulsive but it’s also offensive. In case you’re too dense to realize it, I have parents who love me very much and who I love very much. That’s the only love I need.
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8:42 pm
Watch your tone there sweetheart.
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9:00 pm
“Watch your tone there sweetheart.”
1. Don’t call me sweetheart, you pervert.
2. That’s your rebuttal? Telling me to watch my tone? You’re pathetic.
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1:17 pm
I have this crazy idea….. maybe this is satire? Just a thought..
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2:27 pm
Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh bigot!
Out of sympathy, I just wanted to let you know that there’s a whole world out there, you should really get out more. Hiding in your shell and making up hateful rubbish will not be very fulfilling…
Please find your rationality and humanity because it appears that you may have lost them – oops
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2:41 pm
Just one example: You clearly didn’t know that Kevin McHale (“Wheelchair Artie, sadly sans “funny catchphrase;” nice) was in a successful band before the beginning of the show. This article is so over the top and misinformed it’s practically self-parody.
BTW, YOU seem a trifle obsessed with what goes on in the boys’ locker room.
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6:30 pm
You little “factoid” is irrelevant to the larger conclusion of my article. I wish you Kevin fans would stop promoting his career on here. Are you trying to drum up sales for his flagging CDs? It won’t work here, buddy.
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2:52 pm
Overreact much? The criticism about the show not seeming “realistic” is particularly absurd: THIS IS A TV SHOW for crying out loud. That said, I think parents should watch the show first to determine if it’s appropriate for their children, as there are adult themes dealt with that not every parent will be ready to expose their children to. But as an adult, I think the show is wildly entertaining (if at times a little melodramatic for my tastes).
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6:27 pm
You need help.
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3:27 pm
Mr. Billings, while you may have done a considerable amount of research on the show, how much research have you done on the people who actually watch it?
You make huge assumptions and claim that pretty much anyone who watches the show will instantly believe that they possess the ‘vocal chords’ to break out in song and the choreographic ability to dance. You claim that people who watch the show will believe everything in it.
Now, let me say that you make the claim about ‘real world high school’ and compare it to the fantasy created in this TV show.
You know what, I go to ‘real world high school’. Many people within my age gap also watch Glee and attend these real world high schools. What’s more, WE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TV AND THE REAL WORLD.
Yes, clearly the show is exaggerated. Why? Because people our age do not want to come home from a day at high school to watch a TV show that shows them high school again. What would be the purpose? That is like you, Mr. Billings, getting home from work, wherever that may be, and watching a TV show about a man working and doing the exact same things you do. Are you really going to chuckle at something you have probably done today or are you going to chuckle at the fact that Quinn is a pregnant virgin (oho!).
Another thing I would like to cover is that just because we watch something on TV does not mean we will instantly believe it and/or try and do it. At this age in our lives, we can make our own decisions and we choose and know what to believe and what not to believe. You make claims that we are still mindless and will believe anything we’re told, or in this case, seen. While that may have been YOU when you were a mid to late teenager, it is not the case with our generation. We have so much more influencing us than some TV show about singing. Have you seen a modern music video? Perhaps some shows on MTV. I don’t particularly watch the show, but there’s some show about being pregnant as a teenager(?) I believe. Do you HONESTLY believe that our generation will watch that show and instantly believe it is okay to be pregnant at 16? Where do you get this reasoning and logic from. Have you even met anyone in our age range (that has not been brainwashed by your insensible logic)?
We are smarter than you think. Of course there should be a certain age requirement to watch this, but for those who actually can watch and understand the show…you have grossly underestimated us.
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6:35 pm
Are you a journalist? Do you have any idea what it means to be a news journalist today? I really don’t think you do. Why don’t you temper down your hysterical rants and leave the reporting to the professionals. You may disagree with my points, but you’re clearly an amateur– probably part of this big left wing effort to deny my right to free speech. You people are grotesque and frankly insane.
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8:37 pm
Dude, you don’t report on news, you report on popular culture.
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2:57 am
this comeing from the guy who we as “kids who know nothing about the real world” have time and time again had to explain the basics of journalism to?
also you may have the right to free speech. but if you wanna use it you have to take resposibility of what you say and be ready for any critisim other people may have. free speech isn’t a shield you can just put up and say”i’m alowed to say this and there’s nothing you can do about it” because there is. we can use OUR free speech to give our openion about what you have said. if you can’t deal with this then you are not worthy of free speech.
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5:10 am
A journalist, as defined by dictionary.com, is one who practices journalism.
Journalism – noun: 1. the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
You were merely a 3rd person reporter and writer. Please do not think you are above me. In fact, it is MY generation you are ‘reporting’ about, and our reaction to Glee.
You are not our age, and do not attempt to act our age or understand us. You never will, sadly. Hell, when I’m older, I will not understand my kids either. It’s just impossible.
I am not ‘reporting’ on anything. You base your article off of secondary sources. I am a primary source, and I trump all (not to sound arrogant, but I’ll fight fire with fire). You say I am an amateur journalist. That I am. But I am certainly not an amateur teenager. I know myself, and frankly, my entire generation, better than you or any of your sources will ever tell you. If you are trying to analyze my generation, you’d best begin to agree with us or never win the argument. Face it, teenagers understand each other better than anyone else will. Just like how I will never understand your age generation as well. I can observe and and hypothesize, but I will never truly understand your generation.
But since you’re such a ‘professional’, you’ll have known that your research has to come from the audience in question, people my age. So let us see your research, let us see your sources. If you are truly a professional, you will know that there are two sides to an argument: a pro and a con. You are clearly against Glee, so a true professional would find a person who is pro-Glee, mention some quotes, cite some things, and then break down their argument. I have yet to see you do that, Mr. Professional.
No, I have not denied you, nor have I attempted to, your right to free speech. Interpret the constitution however you want, but last time I checked, an argument or debate was not infringing on the first amendment. In fact, it is you who DIRECTLY attempted to infringe upon my right, and I quote: “Why don’t you [...] leave the reporting to the professionals.” Is that not you attempting to curb my right to opinion and free speech? Don’t even try with the professional vs amateur argument, it won’t work. I am the professional, you are the amateur, in this case. While you may be more well learned than me, you can’t ‘learn’ being a teenager. And while I may not be a ‘professional’ teenager, you certainly are an ‘amateur’ teenager and I am clearly above you, since I live this life.
Moreover, may I add, Mr Professional, that your article is full of non sequiturs. You make random claims and jumps that are almost completely irrelevant. You cite nothing, you base this off nothing. If you are such a ‘journalist’, what are you reporting if you have no statistics or numbers? You are merely ‘reporting’ your own opinion, in which case you should consider yourself the guy who writes letters to the editor of a newspaper, and not the one who writes the newspaper. While you believe you may have conducted your research, you clearly have not. You fail to provide where you base these claims off of. Your argument, and I know that ‘reports’ should not have opinions, but in your case, this is an opinion and not a report, is not compelling because of your lack of evidence.
“You people are grotesque and frankly insane.” Either/or reasoning much (to an extent)? So I either agree with you or I am ‘grotesque’ and ‘insane’? What is the reasoning behind that.
I do not want to be offensive, and it is not my intention, nor was it my intention with my first comment. I consider this a debate and clash of opinions. But what pushes me to make strong remarks is your belief that you understand us. To you, and all adults frankly, you will not understand our generation, just like you probably did not understand YOUR parents, and your parents with THEIR parents. This is something that happens with age gaps. Your argument, while it could have been compelling (without its either/or reasoning), is wholly weakened by your belief that you understand us.
You don’t.
I mean, do you even understand why I would be up at 2AM just to write this?
I think not.
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5:56 am
“Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom–both young and old–surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” –Genesis 19:4-8
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3:28 pm
Thanks, Stephenson, for the laugh! I almost spit my Ovaltine all over the monitor. Poe’s Law in action. I love it!
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Thank you so much, Stephenson. This show is an outrageous lie and hopefully more people will see that now. I don’t think you made one point in this article that I found myself disagreeing with. Students should focus on sports as a means to get into college and nothing else. Career training, in high school, is a must. After all, it’s not like students are required to go to English, math, history, and science. And most of all, fathers should never accept or, even worse, hug their own sons for any reasons… ever.
Thanks for reminding me why I’m out and proud.
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Seriously – someone here is spending way too much time watching and analyzing Glee. There’s a simple solution, people – it’s called the OFF switch. But ya know? Don’t think it’s your job to decide what *I* (an ADULT) can watch on TV or what *I* can choose to allow my kids to watch. You choose for yours, I’ll choose for mine. Fair enough?
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7:52 pm
i am so upset i want to cry. glee teaches love not hate like your ideas. glee is about caring and being ok with what you are. it is a great show and has helped many people. it shows you its ok to be different and have musical talents no matter who you are. i lovethis show and dont want it to be taken off the air. i am mad at people like you who want glee gone. you are killing tv.
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12:56 am
You seem a little young to be visiting this website. Why don’t you get your parents on the internet. Okay, sport?
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allright i’ll bite. at what age is it that our mind and body will aparantly explode with maturity and knowledge and make us able to understand the world so that we will automaticly agree with you?
why is it you are of the belif that a person of the age 16 heck even 12 would be unable to take such a simple choice as what to fucking watch on tv? what age would you have to be to decide to get married and forever bind yourself to another human being? 108976 years old?
yeah there are some teenagers out there who make bad decisions and ruin their lives but i’d be able to find cases where 40 year old does it aswell… therefor you too are unqualified to make any decision in life.
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8:51 pm
HAHAHAHA…this is great comedic writing by the author…oh wait, you mean he was serious…actually serious? What a joke! What a buffoon this writer is. He probably still watches re-runs of Leave It To Beaver, and STILL finds THAT show offensive!
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10:22 pm
Wow, you Christianists are seriously disturbed.
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11:56 pm
I was sent to this article through a friend who was beside himself at what you we’re saying about a TV show. I read through it all, and as I respect your opinion and see that this is your job to write for this website, it was your replies to the comments that I found to be extremely offensive and catty.
I am a Christian woman and while I’m not a journalist and or fan of Glee, I cannot understand why you are telling others to “settle down” and shooting bible verses at them, when you haven’t once addressed anything real these comments are saying. You can debate the show until the cows come home, I don’t care, but as a Christian, isn’t one of the biggest pieces to look inside yourself and ask God if what you’re doing is good and righteous? I’m not attacking your level of faith or commitment to God, but your responses to these people, who some are being respectful, are sassy, sarcastic and immature. Not one response I read so far (in a forum of over 240 comments) has agreed with anything you said. Which, I understand, isn’t your reason for writing articles like this… I know it’s for informative value (although I read it as closed-minded, offensive, etc.) but why take it to another level in the replies? For example, the comment about the spelling of “theatre” or “theater”, what a waste of your time to try to get us to think you are somehow smarter than the rest of us for pointing out such an insignificant, shallow error. Man, you spent an awful lot of time debating childish things like that. You clearly get your jollies from trying to prove people wrong, which I don’t think any assured, self-respecting Christian should. You are terribly defensive and that shows arrogance and disregard for other peoples beliefs and opinions. God has taught us to be equal. No one better than the other. So why are you acting as if you have the last say about this dumb TV show? What would your response be to someone writing about your favorite TV show or book, slamming it to the ground, then acting like you are misguided, wrong, and shallow when you try to defend it?
This is the first time I’ve been to this website, and it will probably be my last, thanks to your attitude. Yes, the world needs people to shed light on things that seem inappropriate for kids, but your style of writing is all together outlandish and childish. And while other comments may not have had the time to sit and think clearly and intelligently about what they wanted to say, I would assume all of them agree with me… since not one of them agree with you. Another oddity, a Christian man who sits on a computer, behind a shield of (somewhat) anonymity, and judges things in an non-constructive manner, just to be shunned entirely in hundreds of comments? Wouldn’t you think someone would find a more promising and righteous profession, something with more purpose than to create Internet hate? I look forward to your response.
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12:06 am
Hahaha, I love how all of you so called “Christians” are required to love and accept everyone, yet you post things bashing homosexuals and show tunes. Why? Or is it that you’re really that insecure about yourself and you realize that your organized religion is not all it’s catching up to be. Listen, I’ll admit, I believe in God, and I may judge someone whether I like them or not, but you guys need to stop determining the fate of others “Gays will go to hell.” Okay, where’s your evidence? So your just going to believe anything someone tells you? Has God told you on a first person basis that this is going to happen? I think a kind loving God will accept anyone, good or bad, and you so called “Christians” are fucking corrupt. Stop trying to oppress, you’re not doing the human race any better.
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12:50 am
“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son to be the satisfaction for our sins.” –John 4:19
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12:32 am
I suspect you’re a latent homosexual who can’t get anyone to sleep with because you’re a disgusting prick. Maybe we can dance together in Hell sometime!
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12:44 am
Thank you for showing us the maturity level of the average Glee fan.
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1:00 am
You know absolutely NOTHING about me or my maturity level, so I suggest you stop claiming that you do. You are so concerned with hating on a TV show that promotes tolerance and understanding, when those are two things we need more of in this world. What we need less of is assholes such as yourself purportedly spreading God’s word. When, in reality, you’re spreading stupidity and hatred.
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1:38 am
Is this meant to make us LOL (laugh out loud)? Because you have failed.
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2:44 am
try “make you understand you are an ass”?
he did still fail but he should not feel to bad about that nobody so far have managed that because you are too far in you little world of ignorance.
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12:51 am
This is clearly satire.
Do not get yourselves worked up over this ignorant bullshit!
Christians are the ones who need to be offended, because this is clearly anti-christian satire.
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/03/19/Explicit_Inflatable_Wolverine_a_Hoax/
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/03/26/faux-religious-site-satirizes-rapelay-controversy
Satire is suppose to be funny, but this website is just offensive. But there seems to be a lot of people who believe it is real and are extremely upset with the articles they post. When you repost it on social networking sites or tell your friends, you are only giving them what they want. All they care about is how many people visit their site. He/she are exploiting a sensitive subject, and now have a successful website.
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Wow, I’m not even sure WHERE to begin on this. Let’s start with the basics however. You say your an investigative journalist, yet there are so many errors that I have to wonder what your investigation consisted of.
Lets start with the beginning and continue from there:
Your first sentence you state “it’s full of vibrant teens dealing with the gentle challenges of high school life” yet then you go on to describe all the adult challenges they face in the show.
2. “let me start with the characters. They are just not believable. All the women students look to be in their late 20s or early 30s in real life. The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools.”
Did your investigation turn up that his is a musical comedy? I challenge you to name any realistic comedy, let alone a musical one. They don’t exist. They are humorous parodies of real life situations.
2a. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
Let me help you a bit, both episodes 9 and 13 had “sexting” portayed in them. The series also has the character Sandy Ryerson who was in 5 of the 13 episodes, who deals pot.
3. “Additionally, the show has far too many musical numbers”
See above comment about musical comedy (a play or motion picture in which the story line is interspersed with or developed by songs, dances, and the like.)
4. But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.”
Your statement implys that you don’t find the “arts” as a serious carrer. TV, Movies, Music and Theater are a Multi-Billion dollar industry which employs MILLIONS of people. These are just most predominate known arts. The “art” also include chefs, architects, designers and artist. Even if you were to live in a cave and make your own food the arts are all around you in practically everything you do and have. Perhaps I am reading more into your generalize statement, maybe you only meant singing isn’t a career, perhaps not.
5. “On a related note, Glee’s actors constantly make the argument that excelling at athletics does not contribute anything to the college application process. They posit the theory that a singing club will make you more likely to get into Ohio State or Princeton. “
Actually they only state that an athletic scholarship isn’t a guarantee to get into college.
6. “Athletics have been a proven stepping-stone for academic and business success for over a century. The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club. If children take this belief to heart, it could wind up seriously hurting their chances of college survival as well as their health (sports are essential for keeping fit, strong and attractive!).”
Actually your statement is biased and unsupportive. The number of athletes who have gone onto full scholarships is less than 2% of those who try out for those scholarships. For every 100 who try out only 1 or 2 will get “full-ride” scholarship. No one on the show ever stated that a minor singing club would get them into college, however college boards look for extracurricular activities in making their determination for acceptance.
“7.”Another major fault with the show is its fawning celebration of teenage homosexuality and consumer indulgence. “
How to address this statement? There is one homosexual character on this show. That the character is liked an popular among his peers you somehow contribute to fawning? If he was ridiculed would that have made you like its portray? I would be interested in hear how YOU thing they should have portrayed the character.
7a. “Disregarding any sense of fair play, the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument.”
I disagree completely to this statement. The alternative to “gay lifestyle” is a straight lifestyle. This show is full of straight characters living heterosexual lifestyles. Your statement is you want the character to “reject his homosexuality” I would support this if another straight character rejected their “heterosexuality”.
Your article comes off as nothing more than an attempt to attack the gay lifestyle. I don’t care if that what you wish to do, free speech and all that. However I do have issues with your attempt to veil your attacks under journalism into a television show. Just write an article saying I think gays are wrong and move on with it.
Your article could be written about any show out there, yet you try to pretend that this show is propagating something you (if you had actually watched the series would know) know it does not. I find it insulting that you make show tunes, musicals and acting synonymous with gay. I find it more insulting that you are trying to convince others of this.
Write what you mean and stop hiding your word in veiled disguises of concern for children.
On a final note you don’t have to worry about gays “destroy the beauty of marriage,” Straight people have been doing a fine job at that for a long while now as the number of divorces are over half of the number of marriages in the US. Congratulations on that.
I fully expect to seen another article from you in the future discouraging the parents of today from having their children pursue a career in religion based on the number of allegations and crimes committed by priest and clergy on minors. After as you said you don’t want to disregard any sense of “fair-play”
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1:22 am
Stop showing off.
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2:26 am
How is that showing off?
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5:59 am
“‘Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God.” –Leviticus 19:32.
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9:37 am
Wait, wait, wait…. did you just quote scripture to essentially say “Listen to me because I am older and wiser”????
First of all, you have NO IDEA how old that poster was, and second, the defense of “don’t point out every asinine thing I said in this article and prove me wrong, because I am older than you”, is one of the most pathetic and sad things I have seen on the internet. You freakin religious bloggers, you have no patience for anything that does not fall within your small scope of the world, yet you ignore parts of your own bible when it suits you. Step up and be counted. You put this crap out there, this guy posts a clear, point by point rebuttle to you, and all you can say is “Quiet, I’m older”. With all the other foolish, and mean spirited responses you have gotten to this article, you blow off one of the most legitimate and well constructed counter arguments. Why?
Well, I am going to assume it’s because he was right on ALL counts.
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2:52 am
awwwwww did someone look through you “journalism” and expose you for the ignorant homofob you are?
well i guess it kinda counts as showing off when a completly unprofesional can outdo you as a professional but then again we have for months been telling you that no matter how much you lie to yourself you are not a journalist.
admit that you have just once again been disproved or take up a serious disgusion. this is disgraceful. this is what shameful truth would do when he was unable to defend his article anymore. and that is why i’m starting to suspect that you and him are both invnted by the same person.
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This is one of the most misinformed pieces of and I quote “investigative journalism” that I have ever read. This can hardly be called journalism as journalism has to do with reporting factual information with out a personal bias.This is at best a poorly written opinion piece and at worst a bigoted piece of garbage. Although I did get a good laugh at your homoerotic turns of phrase.
I think I will do an opinion piece about how this is not fit for kids to read( and yet is easily accessible to them) and how your article will turn them gay and ruin our world.
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4:16 am
Okay, first of all this article is seriously misinformed and actually quite contradictory. I am not going to go in to the details because to anybody who reads this with an unbiast viewpoint, they will be able to see that this article is full of biasism and is not neccessarily true.
Yes, there are many aspects of this show that may influence teenagers, but looking at Glee, compared to most other TV shows out there, it is tame.
It is actually one of the best shows because it showcases the diversities of the characters, this reflects real life.
I’m sorry to the author of this article but I am a Christian and while I do not believe homosexuals should have ALL of the same rights as hetrosexuals, I do believe that they should be accepted in society, so that our world can move forward, not take a step backward.
The themes of Glee vary, but are completely true to real life and what people of any age must stuggle to deal with. Glee just puts a little bit more of a lighthearted approach to the subjects, (e.g. Ep 6: Vitamin D). This episode clearly shows the characters taking drugs, and while they are not illegal the same message is clear, that it is wrong to take drugs. The characters struggle with the guilt of their decision to take the drugs and in the end confess to what they did. This is a prime example that Glee IS a television series that has decent and wholesome rolemodels for the younger generations.
Glee also shows teenagers that it is perfectly fine to embrace whoever you or others may be, it actually shows that instead of stereotyping we should accept everyone as they are no matter their race, age, sex, religion, sexual preference, etc.
In high schools there is definetly an atmosphere of the “popular” people rule the school and the “geeks” are the least popular, while everyone else is somewhere between. Glee brings these two stereotypes together and attempts to overcome them. It does work to an extent as well.
To anyone else who reads this article, I seriously hope you read it with an unbiased viewpoint and decide what your opinion is based on what you read and actually watching the show Glee as well.
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4:50 am
i love the glee + golden girls mashup steve. i can’t wait to use it on my blog!
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5:03 am
What are they talking about??? I would love to eavesdrop on that conversation!
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9:34 am
I think they just read this article.
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9:55 am
Sorry, that doesn’t qualify as funny.
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4:56 am
THEY TALKING ABOUT COCKS AND HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEM!
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6:10 am
Speak Your Mind…words cannot express the anger you, Mr Billings, have caused in me. If I met you in public I probably would have punched you. Stop being a stupid, ignorant bastard and actually crawl out from under your rock and get in touch with the world…actually no don’t, we don’t want you!
I cannot believe that for an instant you can imply that homosexuality is bad, I myself am gay and I have never been more happier, you clearly have some deep issues and are nothing more than an ignorant, prejudice, homophobic prick, it is people like you, who fuel the flames of hatred and anger towards gay people when, instead they should be embraced for the culture they bring to this world.
My suggestion to you is that you stop making this world filthy and go and lock yourself up!
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6:14 am
I think you need to read: “Homosexuality, The Enemy Within.”
http://christwire.org/2010/01/homosexuality-the-enemy-within/
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6:48 am
I actually did read it, I must admit it was quite interesting and I was amazed at a few of the things you had to say.
“We heterosexuals are the Grade-A meat at the gay barbeque…”
well I personally wouldn’t touch you if you were the last person left on earth.
I did think the article was good, made me laugh, I still prefer to be gay
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6:59 am
Auther completly misses what Glee is. It’s not supposed to show what High School is really like. It’s purposly fulled of stereotype characters. It’s a parody on what every one jokes High School is like.
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7:06 am
Of course I completely understand what this nasty, rough tv show is about. I have seen it! Have you? It’s disgusting and offensive to all the senses. Why do you like it? Shouldn’t you be ashamed of yourself?
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1:54 pm
you are disgusting to all the senses…aren’t you ashamed you exist?
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8:59 am
Thank you for a very amusing article, you are a talented comedy writer. For a second I thought you were being serious, it was really THAT good.
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9:31 am
Basically, if your children arent smart enough to understand that the show is all fake and bullshit then they sefinitly shouldnt be watching it.
But most kids have enough brains to know that its all pretend, come on. let them watch it and know what not to do. show them how stupid it all is.
im 16 and when i watch it i dont sit there and aspire to be like them. i think about how stupid the whole bloody concept of the show is, the only part i like watching is the singing.
and more than likly thats all they’ll like too. its actually a borning show in my opinion.
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9:52 am
I suggest the show, The Rockford Files. It’s my favorite!
http://www.hulu.com/the-rockford-files
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10:02 am
O, this one for Rockford info too!
http://www.thesandbox.net/arm/rockford/
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10:13 am
Hi Aimee, I’m sorry but I’m a little muddle headed this morning! I see now that you mentioned you are just 16. Do me a favor and let your parents see this article? I don’t think it’s appropriate for someone your age to be making these big important tv decisions. Okay?
Stay in school, sport!
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1:21 pm
“I don’t think it’s appropriate for someone your age to be making these big important tv decisions. Okay?”
If a 16 year old is considered old enough to consent to sex, they’re old enough to make “big important tv decisions”.
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10:52 am
Please, stop calling yourself an investigative journalist. Considering how many facts are incorrect in this article simply because you failed to google the actors or watch more than two shows, it’s an embarrassment to the field.
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7:38 pm
Your hypocrisy is astounding.
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5:05 am
i’m sorry but i fail to see anything hypocritical. well beside you billings.
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8:11 pm
This lady’s hypocrisy is monumental and indefensible.
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2:06 am
in that case would you mind to point out what part of her comment is hypocritical?
where did she say/do something she ´had at a previous time told you not to do/say?
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9:12 am
Victor MaRTin.
That’s all.
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11:45 am
It is odd that this devout, non-homosexual writer has such and in-depth knowledge of the Golden Girls.
Further, like most straight men who would be asked to describe the show, he seems to have spent a large amount of time consumed with the “shower scenes.”
I can only recall 1 or 2 “shower scenes” the entire season,
but somehow the writer of the article observed that
“They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap.”
Did I miss some episodes? I am surprised he was able to type “tight biceps” and discuss “lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap” with his left hand,
as his right hand was undoubtedly busy.
I also found it enlightening that the writer noted that “This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing,
suicide and larger questions of faith.” Interestingly, sexting and drug dealing were central themes in episodes.
The writer even noted that “drug use” was a theme, but criticized his thought that “drug dealing” was not a theme.
I am guessing that if gun violence or suicide were broached, the writer would find flaw.
I also like the particular way he ripped the cast. While he describes Football Player Finn as “handsome,” “cute” and “befuddled,” and admits to
enjoying “his deft moves on the football field;” he merely sums up Quinn as the “Slutty Cheerleader.” Interestingly, he does not describe Puck, at all.
It is certainly not a leap to assume that the writer is absolutely befuddled by his own attraction toward men, thus resulting in his latent hatred of women,
especially the “slutty (read: hot)” ones.
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8:04 pm
As a “loud and proud” Heterosexual, I am offended and outraged by your comments. Christianity does indeed celebrate the success of our young men, it takes satisfaction in their beauty. Is the body not a temple to Our Lord? I am expressing my faith when I speak on the handsomeness of youth, it is a golden time of possibility and joy and discovery! Why must you radical homosexuals try to besmirch that? Why must you types see sex behind every houseplant? You have any overexcited libido and that is a dangerous thing. Your conspiracy theories would be laughable if they weren’t so incredibly frightening. I only hope your parents review your browser history.
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5:03 am
” Why must you types see sex behind every houseplant? You have any overexcited libido and that is a dangerous thing. Your conspiracy theories would be laughable if they weren’t so incredibly frightening.”
so first you come with rediculous claims about how gay people are extreamly sexfixated and have multiple times claimed that all gays wanna do is fuck everyone and everything they see….then you go on to say HE has conspiracy theories.
well how about backing your own insane gays fuck everything theory up before you start doing thta?
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1:43 pm
It took me awhile to figure this out, but this website is a joke! Once I realized that, this article became absolutely HILARIOUS.
I grew up in Pentecostal churches, and I can honestly say that even by the standards I was used to there, this guy’s writings/”opinions” are totally over the top!!!
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2:17 pm
My friends showed me this article. They told me it was going to be funny, but really it just terrified me and made me depressed. You’re as closed-minded as my father, who is extremely racist and disowned me for marrying my husband.
He was in the KKK for many years, which has been a great source of grief to our family. He now has Alzheimer’s and is terrorizing the poor women of the nursing home with his racist dogma. He is an embarrassment. I hate going to visit him. He’s made my children cry many times.
The tone of your article is highly reminiscent of his dogmatic blathering. It’s unsubstantial, lacks factual information, and is quite derogatory. I am glad you are not my friend. I could not stand to be within fifty feet of your anger and hatred.
You are an extremist, sir, and extremism breed terrorism. I learned this from my father and his exploits with the KKK. You’re calling a poor, misunderstood gay high schooler a terrorist? That could not be farther from the truth. You, sir, are much closer to being a terrorist with your intolerant message and your poorly reasoned opinions.
Congratulations, sir. This article brought back all the shame, embarrassment, and horror of my youth.
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2:25 pm
Shower scenes? There aren’t any good shower scenes, but as a straight female I wish there were. I would be all over that show. Mm, baby. Nothing like a little bit of man-meat at 9 to cap off the day.
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3:20 pm
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read…
“Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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5:54 pm
This is GREAT! One of the funniest satires of a “crazy right wing Christian” i’ve ever read!
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7:51 pm
Nice try, buddy. Not funny. Not appropriate.
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6:20 pm
For a person who attaches itself to a Christian based website,..one would assume the following simple but basic fundamental aspects of a christian: Integrity and Honesty.
A lie is a lie no matter how small,..misleading or broad stokes of a pen that direct anyone to a less than honest or accurate conclusion is a lie.
A lie, is a lie, is a lie – twisted truth, less than accurate truth, or simple omission of the facts is also a lie. I would expect this sort of behavior from anyone who is less than Republican – but from you,.from a supposed Christ centered blogger,..I am disappointed. Seriously disappointed.
Not telling lies is something to be taught to all children – no matter the age. Teaching your children who are to be Christ-Like that omission of the facts and twisted half truths are the best way to show GOD how much you respect and honor him or teach others how to behave “Right” is a sad, sad point to be at.
I am sure that God must demand that in order for him to feel honored he is satisfied with half/truths and twisted words – because nothing honors Christ more than Christians who use media and technology to spread misinformation and half truths. God must have changed the rules – or instead he decided that he needs to lower his expectations so that Christians can continue to stoop to new levels of low to honor GOD.
Because we all ] know that God really needs your worship of him – no matter what media you use – to be filled with lies and even words of destruction towards other people.
What have you done? Why do people who say they stand on the “Truth” never seem to do so?
I am sure God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are overwhelmed with joy and happiness when they experience all the wonderful words that spill from the mouths of Christians. All of this to pay honor to GOD? And if you say this has nothing to do with honoring GOD,..then who does this honor,..YOU, your church, your family?
Sometime, somewhere, someone with the brains, leadership and integrity will finally stand up and “Enough”! There no longer is anything that remotely appears to even try to mimic much of what Jesus Christ taught or expected.
Did what you wrote bring honor to you,..or to GOD?
Be honest – a lie here does you no good at all.
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7:45 pm
I am not a blogger! Please do not try to lie here. It is unseemly.
Secondly, vanity is a sin. When I read your note, all I see is vanity. Posturing, superiority and egomania. Yes, you are being vain. You clearly have a very different view of worship and faith than I do. Your view seems quite informed by current social trends and political correctness. I am sorry, but the Bible is not a “living text” as you Vatican 2 Catholics would have us believe. It is set in stone and meant to be Law. I don’t need your “feel good” relativism. It doesn’t make any sense!
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I am so offended by your article. As a Christian your article is offensive to me! how can you even think that what you write is anything of God. I’m sorry but I am so tired of people using Christianity as a way to make themselves feel better for there intolerance. I think this is a great show to watch with your children and discuss the issues in the show. When I was growing up i was banned from watching anything that wasn’t about God. By my parents doing this when we were thrust into a public school system not knowing anything our even being able to comprehend the tough choices we would have to make. I am so disappointed in your lack of wisdom.
Sincerely,
Someone who loves all
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7:23 pm
its sad that you people give such a bad name to Christianity. i wonder if “god” will judge you as harshly as you do others who don’t conform to your ideas of what is right and wrong. I thought I remembered reading in some bible that only god could judge- oh, maybe that was the Koran or the Torah!
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7:49 pm
I am willing to wait for Judgement Day to hear God’s Final Answer on that question. I wish you the best of luck with your version of goodness.
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hey a good idea for once. how about you shut the fuck up and then at judgement day we can let god deicde who did good and who did bad huh?
now fuck off please.
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5:02 am
I worry about your mind, young man. All this hate and foul language… It’s just not good for your soul. I pray that you don’t speak to the adults in your home like this. It’s really awful. Maybe you should get a little fresh air? It will calm you down.
By the way Jazzy, some of your fellow countrymen have written a blog entry about me, though I can’t hardly tell what they’re saying in this funny language.
http://survivinglina.web-log.nl/surviving_lina/2010/01/ik-heb-hier-een.html
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5:14 am
how about for once going for the ball rather than the player? try doing something a bit more construtctive than personal insults.
i actually do talk like this most the time and funnily enough it never hurts me. because it’s nothing but fucking words. they only insult you if you let them
back to the question at hand. why do you get to wait till jusgement day on the stuff you don’t wanna think about now but we can’t be alowed to do the same?
btw about the article…funnily enough i have no idea what they say either. german is indead a funny language. too bad we speak DANISH in Denmark huh?
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7:33 pm
this just made me laugh… because it’s a ridiculous criticism of the show. it’s shows like this that make us American, and if you don’t like it, change the damn channel.
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8:22 pm
Someone tipped me off to this and I found it disturbing. A bearded and lusty anarchist by the name of “Fritz” (a member of radical blogger Joe Jervis’ cadre) has been recklessly trying to promote a blog named “The Glee-Based Lifestyle.” The funny thing is he hasn’t started the blog himself, in fact he’s too exhausted from his highly sexualized lifestyle to attempt it. He wants someone else to do the work while he sits back and cashes in! I realize this is some sort of “back door” compliment to yours truly and my journalism above since I coined the phrase in the first place. (I would rather not imagine these types at my “back door”.) If history teaches us anything, it will be that the Glee-Based Lifestyle will inevitably spawn the Ex-Glee Movement just as sodomy has given birth to the Ex-Gay Movement. And what a fabulous group they are! You go Randy!
Source: http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/01/not-again.html
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8:45 pm
We would rather not imagine your “back door” at all, you sick, ugly fuck! God, your face is ugly enough, the last thing we need to think about is your asshole. I’m going to go vomit now.
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8:53 pm
I’m assuming this is satire, or else I’d be worried about your state of mind.
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9:49 pm
This post is completely misinformed and assuming way too much. Assuming that so much of this show is supposed to be based on reality is ridiculous. Just because it doesn’t show all of the rehearsal, doesn’t meant that it implies that everyone is perfect on the spot. There is also not a ridiculous amount of locker room footage, and there is one scene that shows Finn in the shower, but nothing is shown (obviously).
The students are not in their late 20s and early 30s. Lea Michele (Rachel) is 23, not 30. If you checked your facts, you would know these things. Don’t just make up things on the spot. It’s not hard to check their ages on imdb.
This show is nothing like The Golden Girls, so there is no point comparing any of the characters.
This article is ridiculous and poorly informed. It really sounds like someone who just doesn’t like Glee and is exaggerating information just to make a point. Do not listen to this person, they don’t know what they’re talking about.
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10:37 pm
“Why are you anxious about what to wear? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin. And yet I say to you, that even Solomon in all his glory is not arrayed like one of these.” –Matthew 6:28-29.
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10:52 pm
“Licking doorknobs is illegal on other planets.” – Spongebob Squarepants 3:44
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10:48 pm
I get it – you were home-schooled!
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11:11 pm
“Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him. When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone,” –James 1:12-13.
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11:27 pm
“Whenever you go to a hotel, always bring your own towel.” – Towelie
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11:31 pm
STOP HARASSING ME!
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11:36 pm
That’s my last J asshole – towlie
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11:38 pm
I summon the demons of hell everynight to smoke with me and thentonight im sending to your house stephenson -HAtesJEsusAlot
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9:04 am
“Kyle, we have got to get that sand out of your vagina, it’s making you cranky. Does it itch?” – Cartman
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12:12 am
How dare you! You clearly hate homosexuals!
I am both GAY and an ATHIEST, and am appalled at the way you preach your beliefs! I have many good christian friends, but you make them look awful.
Stop spreading your bigotry and homophobia already!
We are not contagious – and thankfully neither is your prejudiced attitude.
You also prove yourself to be ageist – do you think a 16-year-old cannot accomplish anything?
I threw my life into the arts. It helps me express myself, and without athletics I still stay fit.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to stay in shape when you’re practicing dancing and singing as loud as you can? Of course not. You only see what you want to see. Which is your loss.
Just stop spreading lies and hate across the internet. It’s immature and someone your age should know to let things go. Since you keep responding to people’s comments, it is obvious you are unable to do so.
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1:08 am
I can’t believe this article. This show is wonderfully done, the actors and singers are great and I truly enjoy the music. I watch it each and every week it’s on. Your comments are uncalled for.. Kids turn out on how well they are raised-I am a gay father of three! My kids are three well developed, well balanced, gay friendly adults and we love the show and they don’t judge anyone. Life is great and so are all people whoever you are, wherever you come from, regardless of your personal, religious, sexual preferences. God loves us all-and we should love and tolerate each other. PEACE!!
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I am appalled by such drastic assumptions on a tv show. FIRST off. Leah Michelle (AKA Jewish Rachel) is not 30. Shes only 23. Get your facts right, or don’t publish them. Second off, if you notice, glee is consider an American MUSICAL tv series. yes, a MUSICAL. Clearly you’ve never left your little world of boring to venture out into the world and actually view such an event. Musicals are generally 2 to 2.5 hours of just that. Music. I find it very amusing that you have nothing better to tear down in our world than a popular TV show. If kids these days are doing all their learning for a box that spits out pretty images, then its their own fault. its called survival of the fittest. I am a musician, a semi-professional one at that. I am employed by a church as a member of their choir. And I am a vocal performance major. With all that being said. ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE that a music degree will not make you a ton of money, but people should be ENCOURAGED to follow their dreams, not their pocketbooks.
plus. its not that they are pushing that athletics are not going to help with college. Its showing that there is more out there that just a stupid sport. People CAN be successful and CAN get fantastic scholarships for musical abilities. I myself had a full scholarship to the university i attended.
There is so much Bigotry in this article, it reminds me why I left the church i grew up with. YOU sir are the reason that christianity has such a negative and bitter taste in the mouth of most of humanity. I can ONLY pray that this was some random joke posted by yourself for some sick amusement.
OH, and this:
If our children continue to watch, they will undoubtedly be influenced by its radical same-sex messages. A generation from now, when these children become adults, what kind of country will the United States be? How many middle-aged men will find themselves in a dead-end Glee-based lifestyle? Will they be ostentatious and sensitive, their dreams smashed up against a wall crying out to have that giant hole in their souls stuffed with some musky foreign thrill? Will they be violating what’s left of our traditional cultural landscape with unimaginable high-tech perversions, drenching, nay drowing the bright young men of tomorrow in their relentless sauces of net porn and showtunes, maximized liberties and stem-cell party drugs? Will male sports just become an excuse for gay locker room orgies? How long until these types also legislate to destroy the beauty of marriage, the safety of religion, the rights of the righteous? Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist? Change the channel my friends. Change the channel and change the world!”
Seriously? you are going to sit there and deliver that? there is so much wrong with this statement that i dont even know where or how to begin. First off, Im pretty sure that Sports are just a way for men to get a little man on man contact. all that sweaty touching and grabbing, balls and holes, long sticks and tight pants. its all just one big ball of homoerotica. secondly, homosexuals pose no threat to the Beauty of marriage. straight couples did that first. And we cannot forget the danger of the Homosexual terrorist. Filling up bombs of glitter, sunshine and rainbows, and blowing up a warhead of fashion and style all around the world. Look at your shirt, I can almost guarentee that a gay man helped design, produce, market and even sell that. Thanks for supporting the homosexuals, We appreciate your business.
I see you as being somewhat of a Sue Sylvester. You live in your own little world where you are placed WAY high up on your pedestal and think that you are high and mighty. You live in a delusion that everyone looks to you for an example, and that anyone that opposes your or your crazy eccentric christian beliefs is completely wrong or condemned. if you plan on dwelling this deeply into a TV Comedy show, that is placed for the amusement of Humanity. Then i encourage you to jump in and “investigate” the origin of most Christian Holidays. You’ll quickly find that they are rooted in pagan ways.
I’ll look forward to your article on that one, sir.
I wish it wasn’t midnight, I could keep tearing this piece apart for days.
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2:52 am
That’s a lot of crazy for one comment.
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3:25 am
No, you Mr. Billings are the one truly full of crazy.
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3:19 am
This article is HILARIOUS! I have never watched Glee, and to be honest I have not a great desire to now either, but I now realise (British spelling, because as it happens I live in the UK – wonderful thing the Internets, the tubes reach so far away!) how necessary it is.
It’s OK, love. I am not a religious person but I admire the parts of the Bible that encourage love and forgiveness. And therefore, if your Christ is watching over you, He will certainly understand your puzzlement, confusion, and inability to deal with your obvious homosexual drives. I cannot pray for Jesus to touch your heart with kindness, not being religious, but I do hope that your heart is healed, and you discover the joy and fulfillment of kindness and empathy. It is evident from this that you are not trying to he hateful, and for this I greatly admire you.
The article is still damn funny though.
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3:32 am
Chumon guys don’t be hating; he’s a pretty good BLOGGER ROFL
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4:14 am
To be perfectly blunt, your comments about the show are so outstandingly based in your own fantasy dream world of shirtless high school boys in locker rooms that I have nothing to say about them. It is clear at this point, based on the extreme number of people who have pointed out the fallacies of your statements, that you have done little to no ‘investigative’ work in regard to this article.
I would, however, like to take this chance to point out to you the flaws in your comments that you have directed towards the readers of this ‘article.’ It was originally my intent to keep this clean. However, seeing as you’ve taken it upon yourself to pass judgments on and personally attack others who have commented on your blog, I feel like it is time for YOU to do some of the soul-searching and self-reflection you so adamantly recommend to many of your more level headed readers.
It is astounding to me that God has not thrown a lightning bolt down from heaven yet to put us all out of our misery here. You are by far the most selfish, egotistical, narrow-minded, creepy person I have ever come in contact with. How DARE you get on this site intended to spread the Good News and the love of Jesus Christ and then say such hateful things. Being gay is not wrong. It isn’t. And I already know what Scripture you’re going to quote to try to shoot me down. You’ve spammed us all with it enough already. But people are who they are, and we were ALL created in God’s likeness. HE is our creator, HE is the one who will judge us, and HE is the only one we answer to. You, sir, have NO relevance. None. For you to pass judgment on others who are different from (or, once you finally come out of the closet, the same as) you is in NO way your place. How arrogant of you to think that it is.
I am tired of hearing you spout off about being an investigative journalist. You are a blogger. Period. In order to even fake being an investigative journalist, you would have to do some investigating, as many people have already pointed out to you.
Age has nothing to do with wisdom. It is, yet again, arrogant of you to sit on your high horse of age and tell the world that you are right just because you are older. Clearly, you have not actually experienced much of the world, or you would not have written half the things you did.
Moreover, I would love to see you come back at any one of my comments, or anyone else’s, in fact, with something other than, ‘you need mental help,’ ‘you’re too wrapped up in glee,’ or ‘respect your elders, sport.’ Because, given the number of times you have avoided the opportunity to legitimately stand by your opinions and defend them by stating your age or your ‘job,’ I seriously doubt that you are able to form a cohesive and logical response. There are a number of responses on here that take a polite and respectful tone, merely pointing out the errors you have made in glee information. And in response, you tell them that you are older, or that they have bad grammar. I challenge you to find a single grammatical error in this post. I am a highly educated individual from a LIBERAL ARTS school, thank you very much. And I guarantee your ACT score was not higher than mine. So I don’t want you on an intelligence high horse either.
I would also like to give you a chance here to prove yourself. You seem to think you are capable of psychoanalyzing people and telling them about themselves. I invite you to tell me as much as you think you can guess about myself, and we’ll see how much you can actually get correct.
Finally, theater refers to the physical structure in which performances are given. Theatre refers to the people, the material, the subject, and the art. Both are perfectly acceptable, and both are English words. The post in which you attempted to correct the use of theatre was actually correct.
I am quite looking forward to your response.
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7:51 pm
Thanks for the response! I am touched that someone with such a strong foundation of faith shares the same important ideals me and sees how important it is to speak out! It truly is garbage like this which is affecting our children for the very worst. With love and blessings,
Stephenson
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11:00 pm
haha apparently Billings is illiterate AND dumb
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1:58 am
thanks billings for finally admiting your homosexuality. it’s truely great when somebody finally realises who they are.
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1:14 am
Soooooo- I did some research, which is more than this douche can say he’s done, and I found this article he wrote. Please read this first paragraph and TRY to tell me he’s not gay. He soooooooooooooooooo is.
“We’ve all been there before. You come home late from a catered event where maybe you had a glass too many of the table wine and you find yourself flipping through the cable channels for something, anything to distract you from the growing ache in your temple. Maybe you land on a tennis match, or a Brazilian soccer game and you start to think, “Well, that is one chunk of man. I wonder how he showers off all that sweat?” Or maybe it’s the Vietnamese guy at your local coffee shop who bats his tender eyelashes at you while you quiver all over from the caffeine of your Iced Venti Frappuccino and before you know it, you’re dreaming of a vacation on some hot Equatorial beach, speedos eveywhere… Or you’re sitting in the steam room of your local gym and Mr Hairy Muscles to your left lets his towel slip and you gasp for air, wishing you had some thing, any thing, to grab hold of as you fall into an uncontrollable rush of flesh-toned images which have nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible or the Jeb Bush’s candidacy in the 2012 election.”
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4:23 am
And just as a reminder:
Jesus was a friend to the lowly. He laid hands on and healed the unclean, and He ate with the corrupt tax collectors. He did not pass judgement. He came among us as one of us to show us how we should live. And you are not following His example.
I’ll be praying for you.
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7:31 am
I for one, is a Christian.. and a mature adult although i’m only 18. i understand what goes around me and i know what to take in what not to.. So what’s your point? you want us to be moral people so we shouldn’t watch it? Glee is a show with good and bad points, if a child watches it parents shouldn’t be so worried about it, since if they really care, they would just sit with them in front of the tv and watch it with them and they could explain to their children what to follow and what to never do. That’s where our PARENT’S GUIDANCE are highly needed. Do parents know everything we read, talk about or watch? It rests on the parent to watch and improve their children’s spiritual growth without isolating their children of actually LIVING in this world.
So you know what? i think those are total lies. How could you want us to be moral when you yourself is not moral? is it moral for a person to downright insult other people’s works with no respect of their feelings? You didn’t even think of how they would feel if they read this. Do homosexuals choose to be homosexual? i think not. They didn’t wake up one morning and say, “OH, i wanna be a homosexual now!”.. definitely not. GOD has a plan, whatever he chooses to happen will happen and there’s nothing people can do about it but just accept it. Face facts, its reality, nothing is ever certain.. only GOD knows.
So, stop acting like you know everything because in this world nothing can always be prim and proper, straight and by the book. God showed me that i can be imperfect and that he is happy for me with whatever decision i make in my life as long i consider what he wants me to do and how i should live my life. And one thing i’m sure about is that, GOD loves everyone, even the homosexuals. Don’t ever state like they are sick people and should be avoided. Even if you didn’t say it that way, it is definitely implied like they have the plague and they could affect everything it touches. AGAIN, i say GOD loves everyone, whoever you are GOD loves you because he is our Almighty Dad.. If a parent is accepting of his child’s choices in life, what more so with GOD? wouldn’t he accept you more for who you are without even thinking?
As long as you know you are not drowning in lust, and still follow his teachings i highly doubt being a homosexual could be a problem. If it is so unacceptable, then i know God would show them the way.
It is by our own choice on how we should live our lives, let them be. respect the freedom God has given them. if you yourself know what is right and wrong, then you can watch whatever you want, it wouldn’t sway your faith one little bit if you put your life in His hands. I could only pray to God that He will guide you so that you will avoid hurting so many people’s feelings. “love the persecuted, love the loveless, love the isolated, love the confused, and love the unnoticeable for God looks at what is inside you and not how other people sees you”
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9:49 am
Wow, and here I thought that all of the stupid people on Earth were finally dying out. Stephenson Billings (what a GAY name by-the-way) obviously proves me wrong. Hey Stevie why don’t you keep your ignorance and your dying religion to yourself?
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10:47 am
So people are different than you. That’s not a bad thing, really. Get off your high horse Billings. The sooner you accept others, the sooner you can get over it, the sooner you will be at peace! People are gay because they are born like that not from watching The Golden Girls you idiot! OH my Gosh I just name called, I must be one of those gays… I’m not in case you are wondering
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11:50 am
This is truly disappointing. I have 3 children 2 girls and a boy. They know “entertainment when they see it and what’s more they know poor entertainment when they see it.
However they did not get their morals and values from entertainment or the media they got them from their parents.
To say that even poor entertainment should be removed from the air simply because it does not reflect one groups or individuals morals or values is nothing more than an excuse. Entertainment is art and as such may or may not reflect reality and should always be viewed critically not consumed lightly. This means speaking to your children and asking them what they think and why they think it. It means challenging them and sometimes them challenging you.
In today’s world where entertainment and opinion is often passed as news and factual information it is more important than ever for the parents to take the lead in educating their children in critical thinking and passing their own morals and values on to the children. Don’t leave it to the media in the fist place.
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12:10 pm
An opinion piece such as this one would be much more convincing if even the basic facts were correct:
The woman who plays Rachel was born in 1986, which would make her 24, not 30. While this is still not high school age, it is much younger than the writer would have the reader believe.
Also Artie (the boy in the wheelchair, as if this is the most important aspect of him) is a member of a band in which he sings. All of the songs in the show are pre-recorded and the show is shot much like a music video, with the actors singing but the pre-recorded music being played in the final version. This is obvious to anyone who watches the show, and the sound is intentional by the editors.
A simple IMDB search will show you either of the above facts (not opinions).
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but when it is backed but such shoddy fact-checking, it can hardly be taken seriously.
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8:05 pm
“But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided. An woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.” –1 Corinthians 7:34.
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8:49 pm
“You know, I think that if parents would spend less time worrying about what their kids watch on TV and more time worrying about what’s going on in their kids’ lives, this world would be a much better place.” – Stan Marsh, “South Park”
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4:15 pm
Man, I don’t really care about your religion.
But you are a horrible writer. I’ve never seen so many typos in my life.
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6:02 pm
wait, is this post a joke or is the author serious?
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6:17 pm
Sounds good. Can’t wait to see it.
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6:38 pm
YOU ARE ALL STUPID! CHRIS COLFER (KURT) IS GAY IN REAL LIFE. OH NO IM A CHRISTAN AND I CAN’T LIKE GAYS. OK. FINE JUST FOR THAT, I’M A LESBIAN NOW.
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7:01 pm
While I completely disagree with everything this article has to say I think the statement that bothered me the most was that Artie can’t sing. Why don’t you actually do a little research first? Kevin McHale (the actor who plays Artie- which you evidently don’t know because you’re a bumbling idiot) was in his own band previously. Maybe you should get your facts straight before writing a crummy article of your own opinions and trying to pass it off as factual.
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7:28 pm
I’ve gotta say, I make it a point to respect the opinions of everyone I know, even if I don’t agree with them. So, CONGRATS…You are the first person who’s opinion makes me sick. Although, I respect and appreciate the fact that you choose not to use rude slang. I’m sorry, but I believe God loves everyone just the same, whether they are gay, straight, bisexual, etc. I personally feel like I do not have the right to determine how others live their lives. I am confident enough with my faith so that I accept people that are gay just like I accept people that are straight. But, I know for a fact that I do not have the right to make it so people cannot live how they want to live. And Glee is a fabulous show, with a talented cast. Also, most teenage characters on tv are played by people who are much older. But look, unless they live in a COMPLETE bubble, teenagers see and hear things that are much worse every day in high school. We hear about, if not participate, in parties, sex, etc. So if you want to attack anything, attack the public school system, because shows like Glee truly and honestly don’t impact our lives as much as you think they do.
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8:03 pm
I am very sorry Mr. Billings that you have had to endure such criticism of your work. If I were to guess, many of the commenters are unable to understand how closely your belief in G-d and the bible. I think if you share with them the extent of how closely you follow the bible, like it how it commands us to not lie with another man, they may better understand. I went to an observant high school as a child and had much difficulty letting others understand what our life can be like.
For example, I’m sure you never wear mixed fabrics (cotton with wool), eat shellfish or gelatin, or break the Sabbath by baking, driving, washing, planting (if you have a garden, I’m not sure), separating (a ton of things here such as picking bones from fish), tying or untying, writing more than two letters, pretty much anything that deals with electricity or fire, and a whole bunch of other things.
Maybe if you shared some of your belief, the internet community may understand.
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8:24 pm
“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.”
–Matthew 4:1-11
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9:09 pm
“Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.” – Gildor, “The Lord of the Rings”
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10:31 pm
STOP THE HARASSMENT YOU ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
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11:30 pm
“STOP THE HARASSMENT YOU ARE OUT OF CONTROL.”
How was I harassing you? I was simply proving that “The Lord of the Rings” is just as relevant to this discussion as The Bible is.
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10:10 pm
What is “explicit homosexual experimentation” and where can I get some?
I’m sorely tempted by the hot photos, by the way. The guy with the mohawk is really cute.
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11:50 pm
uhm ya u have no idea wat ur talking baout its common tv shows these days have not seen secret life all wat glee talks about is really happening in highschool ok so dont speak about hows its a fairytale
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English-Only Please!
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Articles like this, and people who agree with it, are the very reason why the rest of the world thinks the majority of Chrisitans are losing the plot.
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2:08 am
Can you please take the term ‘Journalist’ out of your author’s bio – you are clearly pretending to be one by producing such a poorly research, highly bias article such as this – which as a journalist I find offensive.
Stick with being a ‘Motivational Children’s Party Entertainer’.
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12:31 pm
Stephenson Billings (how GAY is that?), how dare you call yourself a journalist?! You are nothing but a fictional essay writer. The job of a journalist is to report facts based on research. Nothing in your article is fact-based. Instead it is written purely out of fear-based opinions. “Golden Girls” was the cause of homosexuality among men?! Come on, you’ve got to be kidding me! Please, do your research. Research the actors’ bios. Research the show writers’ intent (it is a fantasy, not reality show). Research HOMOSEXUALITY…maybe even try it once!
“Motivational Children’s Party Entertainer?” What the hell is that? It frightens me, the ways in which you may be motivating our children. You should be ashamed.
Stephen, PhD, LCSW, Psy.D., MBA, DSW, Esq… (not really, but if you can label yourself “Journalist”, then I feel justified in doing so myself)
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I think that all of you liberals might remember that this is still America and we all have a right to an opinion, you have certainly voiced yours. Best of all, Jill, Kevin, Claire, Chad jazze & Emily have been given ample room to express their freedom of speech even though it goes against everything this website stands for. All week long, in response to this article there has been a torrent of comments supporting Glee. So much so so that it’s clear that it’s been orchestrated. And, if anything, the comments simply served to convince me how important it is to supervise my kid’s television and never watch this show.
Listen up liberals, your beloved Democrats today have decided it would be a great idea to escalate the war against Al Qaida only they REFUSE to let our troops do what is necessary to win this war once and for all. They want us to fight a war the way children are expected to play checkers. Obama would never fire bomb a city. He hasn’t got the nuts to make that kind of genuine decision. Instead he likes to stand at his teleprompter and convince idiots like you that he has everything under control. As if that was not enough, your beloved dems are breaking the backs of people who work for a living. A majority of Americans don’t want there health care package because it’s junk. Yet, they refuse to listen to us. I am willing to bet you are liberals because your mothers and fathers were liberals and their mothers and fathers were liberals. You don’t even know what you stand for. You folks should get a clue. My tax dollars should not go to support your abortions or your free health care. This is America. The Constitution promises you nothing other than your right to be free from intrusions on your liberty. No doubt, W was an idiot too. But tell me how it makes sense to take the trillion dollar deficit he created and make it a three trillion dollar deficit? It is probably beyond your comprehension. I loathe people like you and weep when I think my kids are growing up in a country filled with idiots just like you. I hope Brown wins, not because he is a great candidate, but because he can single handedly put the breaks on the train of socialism and utter ruin that is barreling down upon us at this moment. Even JFK and FDR would be ashamed of what’s going on.
From culture to politics you people are:
Out of step.
Out of touch.
Out of time.
Out of mind.
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And let me just say Brown will win as will the rest of the teabag supporters in this fight against the health care plan. His election was the vote we needed to shut this unconstitutional attack on our liberty down and even the dems are now retreating. He is OUR representative and OUR voice in Congress, the new voice of the new movement. It’s time people wake up! It’s not about being a Republican or Democrat anymore, it’s about being an American. Our culture is at risk every day. Our economy has been bankrupted. Obama voted to prop up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as a senator in 2005. Biden has deep ties to the credit card industry. Yes, this is real.
And let me just repeat that there are some serious problems happening in the USA:
China is now #1 and the US is falling fast.
Obama has wasted $3 trillion on government pork.
The bankers have been given billions in bailout money and still they’re paying themselves record bonuses while most Americans struggle to hold onto their jobs.
Terrorism that is now lableled acts of local crime.
We are losing the wars in the Middle East.
Eliminating healthcare to the elderly and infants is the fallout of the plan Dems believed in.
They truly believed in limiting more mamograms as they are deemed unnecessary
Germany use to be #1 before their turn to Socialism. They used Jews as scapegoats.
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5:57 am
thank god for people like you. not because i agree with you. i certainly don’t. but no matter how much i think you are wrong i can respect your openion. because you can make a logical argument to reason why it is you suport what you suport and why you belive what you belive.
thats the problem with billings and the other morons of this site. they simply conclude that they are right and when asked why or how they are right they freak out and starts insulting us or cry about how we insult them.
so mike whille i do not belive you are right i have a lot of respect for you and would like to say that you are the kind of person i’d love to take a civil discusion about todays society with. i take my hat of for you.(please learn something from this guy billings i beg you)
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12:12 pm
To the person quoting “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”–1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Note the use of the word “slanderers”. that word would include your attitude completely.
slan⋅der
/ˈslændər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [slan-der] Show IPA
Use slanderer in a Sentence
–noun
1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.
–verb (used with object)
4. to utter slander against; defame.
–verb (used without object)
5. to utter or circulate slander.
Still think that you are going to inherit the “Kingdom of God Slanderer?
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6:31 pm
You make me ill.
Free speech is overrated when all it seems that people like you can use it for is hate-mongering. Get over yourself and welcome to the world, where we’ve actually begun to really accept difference, diversity, and *GASP* artsy types.
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7:58 pm
You are fully entitled to your opinion, but I think that it’s ridiculous that you are spewing it to other misinformed parents. The show is obviously not for children – if you watch it, it is set in a high school, and while some parts of the show are exaggerated or unrealistic (it’s a television show for entertainment – not a reality show depicting real life!), it does have merit for depicting what high school is like. High schoolers today are much different than whenever you were in school, and the topics covered in the show actually happen. Rachel not thinking she’s beautiful- find me a teenage girl who thinks she is beautiful 100% of the time. The society we live in relies on looks to affirm who you are and what you do, and unfortunately, that is a reality.
Kurt, the gay character on the show is amazing. He has courage and does not feel the need to CONFORM to what people think is right. He protects his father, but the show also allows people to realize that being gay isn’t a bad thing and it’s NOT something you can choose. Sure, you can suppress it if your stupid church makes you, but I bet that person will never be truly happy.
And the singing – first of all, you do realize that show is called Glee, right? And that it’s a musical? Because that about explains the random breaking out into song. Because that’s how the show’s supposed to be. And the lip-synching, yep. It’s there, but all of the actors do their own singing They have to record it so that it sounds right on tv, just like when musicians make a music video (I’m sure those are condemned too though).
And for the record, The Golden Girls is one of the best shows to ever air on television. Betty White for President.
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12:32 am
With all the bullying, shouting and harassment, I’d say it takes a lot of “COURAGE” to be a Christian-American in today’s society.
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7:36 am
You’re right in that it does take a lot of courage to be a Christian-American in today’s society. But there are people that do it everyday and are respectful about it unlike yourself. While they may not agree with some people and their views of the world, they also respect that other people can have views and allow them to have them. They do not ‘preach’ their beliefs to others and try to make them follow along their misguided and misinformed thoughts and opinions. It’s clear that you won’t change your mind- you have a right to your own opinion. But what myself, and I’m sure many others are upset about and defending is that your article is full of lies and an unrealistic view of the world. Children are growing up much faster than they should – should they? Of course not. Children should be allowed to stay children and not thrust into the ‘real word’ until they are ready to take it on. But it happens. As does teen pregnancy (which is again, not something to be proud of or promote, but there are some amazing teen mothers out there, and they should be commended for doing a great job with so much against them). Please realize that a television show is just that- a television show. It is meant to entertain people, and some people might not like it, but with a show like Glee, that connects to the audience (as seen by the massive amounts of people supporting it and counting down until new shows are back on the air), it connects because it takes real issues and deals with them. Yes, it exaggerates some story lines, and dumbs down others. But it deals with real issues in a way that teenagers watching can understand and learn from.
And something that I didn’t address the first time, but what’s wrong with hoping and believing in yourself. Yes, not everyone is built to be a singer or football player or a math major. But if you truly want it, you can achieve whatever you put your mind to – in some way. I see no harm in letting people believe that. I think it would be a much better world if people were more hopeful and believed in themselves a bit more.
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Everything this show contains (sex references, homosexuality, drugs) are taught to children in MIDDLE SCHOOL. The show itself is aimed at high schoolers. The audience is already aware of all of the controversial topics, and is also aware of the repercussions of a) having unprotected sex (as if Quinn’s pregnancy hadn’t made that clear enough) and b) doing drugs (again, covered with the ridiculousness of the episode Vitamin D). You’re not trying to protect children. You’re just expressing your unnecessary hatred for anything that does not fit the norms of your religion.
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Wow you’re so right. Gay lifestyle is taking over and we should repel!!
What a load of crock, get over it, some are straight, some are gay. Be happy for who you are.
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This is the biggest load of SHIT i have ever read in my life.
You Christians are fucked up. You really are.
There are wars going on because of religion, people are getting targeted and bashed in streets because of your ways of ‘non acceptance’.
Christianity is the biggest load of garbage, you’re constantly contradicting yourselves, and you know what? You’re going to hell anyway.
The majority of religions believe that if you do not believe in their “god” you’re going to Hell. Yep, hot steamy hell.
Meaning, you stupid christians believe in God right?
So, you don’t believe in Buddha, or Allah, or whatever else is around, right??
Yeah, you dont believe in their gods, so we’re all going to hell…. it’s gonna be great!!! Homosexuality, Pre Marital Sex… Everyone will be there!!!
See you in Hell you stupid christian fucks.
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9:31 pm
You have a foul mouth.
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And you have a wicked toungue
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9:57 pm
Wow. So many comments in the past couple of days.
Doesn’t Stephenson Billings remind you guys of Margaret White? Maybe not as crazy, but still.
[Margaret White = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_White
And Billings, in case you haven’t noticed, quoting the bible isn’t getting you anywhere; it’s just pissing a lot of us off. However, I can’t resist:
“I’m through accepting limits
’cause someone says they’re so
Some things I cannot change
But till I try, I’ll never know!”
-Elphaba
Of course, you wouldn’t know who Elphaba is, since she’s Wicked.
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Wow. I can’t believe I actually just read that whole thing. You are SO misinformed. I really doubt that you actually watched the show, considering:
1) “Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club” NEVER cheated on his wife. He isn’t a “horndog aldulterer”. He also isn’t a “homosexual educator”.
They never made the high school seem like a fantasyland. They made it like a real high school. Maybe you’ve been living under a rock for the past 20 years, but high school is like that. The high school Glee kids go to is actually more realistic than most TV high schools. Girls have pre-marital sex and people are gay. Life goes on…
2)”Jewish Rachel” aka Lea Michele is 23 years old. I would like to know what you think a “real” woman is like. Just curious….
3)”Gay Kurt Hummel”? Really ? Thats not the only thing his character is about. Yeah, Kurt is gay, but thats not his only trait.
4) Yes. Sue Sylvester is “egomaniacal, pretentious and possibly too masculine”. That’s the character. It is intentional.
5) The only shower/locker room scene I remember is the one in the first episode, when Finn is singing “Can’t Fight This Feeling”. I don’t recall them ever even showing his chest whatsoever, either..
6) And “wild male sex desires” ??! Sorry, I think i missed that… Can you explain which one(s) please ?
7)”avoid serious career training in favor of having “fun” in the “arts.”” So, what you’re saying is that having a career in the arts isn’t a serious career ? I’d have to disagree.
9) The whole show is based on a glee club. The musical numbers are the whole point… its a glee club. They sing. What’s a show about a glee club, without singing ??
10) Glee is DEFINITELY not the worst show on TV. In my opinion, it’s probably one of the best. Have you seen Jersey Shore? Maybe you should do an article on that show. Teens all around the world are watching it, and it is a WAY worse example than Glee.
This article is misinformed. You DISGUST me. I can’t believe how closed minded one person could be !! And before you write an article about what parents should know about a show, maybe you should watch it first.
… I’m gonna go listen to some glee music now.
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11:10 pm
I think many people above covered everything I was going to comment on.
I mean, is this article a joke? I’m not kidding. I am convinced this is a joke. If not, then it seems as though you haven’t actually watched this show, or you are making a bigger deal out of it to simply have parents keep kids away because of “the gay kid”.
And one more thing – no kids are this talented? Please. You have no idea. And why would you? You clearly don’t support the arts. Shame on you. You’re right in that it isn’t easy to make it in the entertainment industry, but the show has even said that! Hence Rachel Berry’s intent on doing whatever she can [that she feels is appropriate] TO make it. But in no way should a kid, or any person, feel brought down by that. My interest in musical theatre started late – just a few years ago – I’m 25 and don’t plan on giving up on it anytime soon. It’s never too late to become accomplished in the arts. Seems that you lack something I’m sure you preach about, and I’m going to assume you know to what I am referring.
The only bad thing about this show is that the writing sucks for the most part. But it has its moments, and it’s still fun to watch at times.
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12:36 am
The author of this blog is a serious whack-a-doodle! LOL! This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read.
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What the hell is going on here? Now before I start my rant, I would like to clarify that I am 16 years old and a Christian, but what you have written here is total bull. Do you want us kids to hide away from the world forever? Do you want to throw us into the world thinking that everythings ok because we have been sheltered our whole lives? And whats with the attack on Kurt? Does the bible not teach us to love one another as we love ourselves, and that God loves us no matter what? Or did I miss the note at the bottom of the page that says ‘unless your gay’. What you have written is basically attack on the world, there are many people like these characters in the world, does that make them bad people? I bet you adhere to some of these stereotypes and if someone was writing something about you or your faith, you would be mad as hell, so back off. As for the ‘no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom’ that is bull, one of my best friends is gay and his family is very religious, but they accept that he is gay, because no matter what, he is their son. Isnt God meant to be the same way, or does God hate gays? Isnt love, love, against all other barriers? Why would you write about such a idiotic topic? And if you insist on pushing your views on others, atleast have to courtesy to correct your grammar.
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2:48 am
Some of us had/have tough family lives and turn to TV to get away from the reality, which is much worse than Glee. We are under constant terror alert, people are being stabbed, shot, tortured, drugged, raped, etc etc, but all you can write about is a unrealistic Television show?? Psh, some journalist?
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3:28 am
This is why the rest of the world thinks America is filled with religous fruitcakes!
I’ve read with amusement all the comments above, and I was especially entertained by your responses and copy & paste bible passages. You come across as no different to the fundamentalists, zealots or the OT III scientologists. To believe in something is great – all the power to you, but do not try to push this crap down our throats and tell us it’s real. I’m happy to let you believe in god, jesus, santa claus & the easter bunny; but when you stress that you are a “real journalist” (this is NOT journalism!!) and respond to comments with unprofessionalism and quotes from the bible as your argument, then it just shows that you are indeed nothing more than a flamming blogger.
I am shocked that people would let you “entertain” their children though, as I tend to agree with the other posters here that you do come across as some form of zealot closet homosexual. What we watch is our business, and as a father of 2 it is up to us parents to monitor what our children watch, not you sir.
Out of interest, do you believe in dinosaurs?
And I think you’ll find that there is basically no difference between the words “theatre” & “theater” except the spelling…as they both mean the same thing, and are not pronounced any differently.
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4:23 am
omg never laughed so much before. cant stop crying haha. mind you i did get upset about the chocolate comment – whats chocolate ever done to you????? get over it people this is a joke! glee is a fun show and its up to the individual parent to decide if their children watch or not. although i am intrigued……where exactly are these shower scenes again??? gonna have to borrow my daughters dvd and watch intently lol. my kids grew up pretty normal and they were all horror buffs at a fairly young age – the big difference being they knew the box thing in the corner of the lounge room is fantasy, outside the front door is the stuff we lijke to call reality
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5:11 am
Erm… Did I miss something? When was everyone told it was ok to be misinformed about the world? Cause believe it or not, Homosexuals, Drugs, Teenage Pregnancy etc actually exist in the REAL world, but of course you didnt know that, you just go back to hiding your head under the pillows until its all over. I am 16 years old and I love this television show, its meant to be fun, not shot down by fruit cake religious fanatics. I feel sorry for you, as you obviously cannot enjoy the pleasures life brings without citing a biblical reference. And they teach us things like drugs, teen pregnancy, homosexuality etc, because unlike you, our teachers and educators want us to be prepared for the real world, not the fantasy one that resides in your mind. Why do you insist that homosexuality is bad? Did I miss the lesson God Loves You (Unless Your Gay, Your Going to Hell)? Love is love, whether it is between two men, two women or a man and a women. How dare you condem homosexuality? I can tell you for sure, you would not be writing this stuff if YOU were gay. And the fact that you refered to Arty as Arty, Wheelchair, goes to show what an insensitive bastard you really are. And how dare you say that Kurts father hugging his only son is unseemly? Can a father hugging his gay son send him to hell? Well according to you, anything can, so I guess I will be seeing you there, as I am a 16 year old girl, who has most definantly sinned, I am SURE you have as well. Dont sit on your high horse judging others when you are just as bad as the rest of us. Oh did I mention that I am a Christian, but people like you make the rest of us look bad, ranting and raving about A FICTIONAL TELEVISION SHOW which has values in it that you are too busy slandering to notice. Welcome to the real world, Jerk.
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If you’re 16 years old, you’re clearly too young to be letting this tv show influence you. I suggest a serious discussion with your parents over your late night television habits sooner rather than later. And consider this: is tv shows weren’t out there glamorizing sex and drugs to kids like yourself, how many lives would be saved? How many future careers would be protected? How many decent people would grow up with their chastity and morality intact?
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Umm, please do not tell me what to talk with my parents about, especially being that I cannot stand homophobes. Please pull your head out from under the pillows and look around, not quite the world you expected is it? No, all the things in this television show are real matters. And just because I am 16, doesnt mean that I am not and cannot be educated on what goes on in the world, the good and bad, there is no Heaven with out Hell, no Good without Evil. And my mother is the kindest most caring loving person in the world, and she introduced me to watching Glee. Ohh yeah, how dare you say I am too young to be influenced by the show, its tv, idiot, and you have never met me so how can you tell how mature I am, or what kind of person I am? Apparently I am more educated on the world than you are. My parents wanted to send me into the world knowing there is bad in the world, but there ALWAYS will be, they taught me to be responsible, caring and kind, to be tolerant and fair, not to be judgemental and hateful, as you obviously are. which is more than I can say for you.
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Mr. Billings:
Why can’t a 16 year old be influenced by a TV show that has an abundance of good role models and tackles problems happening in high schoolers’ lives today? You stated above that Glee glamorizes sex. Well, do you see Quinn all happy and cheerful that she got pregnant? NO. And do you see all of the other characters, and Quinn herself, learning from her mistake? YES. Oh, and just because a kid sees sex on TV doesn’t mean they’re gonna think “OMG I WANNA GO HAVE SEX.” Because most people don’t. And also, if you’re so against these TV shows, stop wasting your time watching them. Because who knows what life choices you’ll make that were influenced by this show. I hope you haven’t had issues with sex, alcohol and drugs since watching this, since you do state that this show will influence those behaviors.
Sincerely,
Emily J.
14 years old
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5:20 am
What happened in your life to make you such a homophobic jerk? Seriously, you just condemed a father hugging a child. Obviously you are not tolerant, and are you not meant to ‘love thy neighbour as thyself’ which means you have sinned, so shut the hell up and stop judging others.
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9:34 pm
Your maturity is a joke, as is your intelligence.
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9:39 pm
I find it very interesting that you people harp on the one little typo of this article– the age of Rachel, who I suggest is made to appear like she’s 30 years old. It was a minor error on my part, I should have made it more clear I was talking about her appearance and not her actual age. But in any event, my point still holds very true. She is far too good-looking to play the ugly duckling and she is far older than the “16″ she is supposed to be (23 is a full SEVEN YEARS older!).
The reason I find this interesting that you’re all focused with Rachel’s age is that you really have no other way to criticize/attack/debate me than to obsess over this one single sentence. You clearly have come here because you did believe there were problems with Glee and it pains you to accept this. You really can’t make the argument that this is a kid’s show and that the content is appropriate considering the vast amount of sexual issues it contains.
JUST MOVE ON FROM THE “LEA IS 23″ NONSENSE, OKAY?
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4:31 am
Quite a few people have pointed out other issues with your article, yet you haven’t addressed them.
I would like to know where your supposed Love is within this article. It is nothing but hate filled. You attack and condemn instead of loving and understanding. You wear your brand of Christianity like blinders, and what it has blinded you to is the fact that you have strayed far from God’s intent and will, and are pushing your own agenda, not His. Open your mind through understanding with Love, not fearing with Hate. Christianity says Jesus is love. Prove it!
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10:01 pm
This article almost defies words for its ridiculousness. You display everything wrong with modern right-wing Christians. You are hostile, quick to jump to ridiculous conclusions, biased and uninformed. I could have sworn Christianity was about forgiveness and accepting others for what they are. Quit jumping back to the old testament every time someone does something you don’t agree with. Learn to be everything Christianity church was meant to teach. Learn to accept others and move on with your life.
Golden Girls 4 ever
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11:48 pm
Maybe I display everything that is right with modern Right Wing Christians. Have you ever thought of that? We’re not afraid when we know we’re right, we stand up for the decency and righteousness inherent in traditional American values. We will not be bullied by you Obama socialist liberals. We are will to risk everything to protect our freedom and share our love! Let us show you to way to salvation.
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4:09 am
only if you let me hit you in the head with a shovel whenever i feel like it.
remeber i do it because i love you i just don’t know how else to express it ^^.
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11:04 pm
“I find it very interesting that you people harp on the one little typo of this article– the age of Rachel, who I suggest is made to appear like she’s 30 years old.”
-That’s because you wouldn’t admit it; but I’m glad you did now. It makes things less painful.
“It was a minor error on my part, I should have made it more clear I was talking about her appearance and not her actual age.”
-What should be made clear is that the whole article is a “minor error” on your part.
“But in any event, my point still holds very true. She is far too good-looking to play the ugly duckling and she is far older than the “16″ she is supposed to be (23 is a full SEVEN YEARS older!).”
-She is good-looking, and she isn’t playing the ugly duckling; people just find her annoying [I was never sure as to why everyone dislikes her]. And I think the reason that an adult is playing the part of a teenager has been mentioned a couple of times: child labor laws.
“The reason I find this interesting that you’re all focused with Rachel’s age is that you really have no other way to criticize/attack/debate me than to obsess over this one single sentence.”
-Sweet Jesus, there are so many reasons why we’re criticizing you, NOT attacking. It SEEMS like attacking, because for some reason, every one of the comments on here have gone through one of your ears and out the other. We’re “debating” you on:
*how Glee isn’t destroying America, as you would exaggerate it.
*how being gay isn’t a sin; if it weren’t for people like you, gays could live a normal [other than being gay =P], non-threatening life.
*how stereotyping is a no-no. It’s unprofessional.
*how you. Are. A. Blogger. Investigative journalist, my ass.
***and I’m curious: do parents ACTUALLY invite you to entertain their kids? I’m having a hard time processing that thought. It’s no wonder nobody wants to bring their parents to this article; then you’d have more adults laughing at you than children.
“You clearly have come here because you did believe there were problems with Glee and it pains you to accept this.”
-A lot of us came here because somebody mentioned it in real life [and thought it was hilarious], or the link was posted on a forum. Glee has about as many problems as Christianity; it’s all how you view it. And from the TONS of views Glee gets, it doesn’t have many problems. The way you crow your hatred of Glee [and homosexuality/the actors/the singing/etc.] and how you boast your “If I don’t like it, it’s evil and going to hell” attitude…but most of all, claiming everything to be FACTS, is just annoying and immature.
“You really can’t make the argument that this is a kid’s show and that the content is appropriate considering the vast amount of sexual issues it contains.”
-Dude, it’s been said over and over that this show is meant for teens/adults, since it’s high school-centered. But you wouldn’t know that, since you avoid the comments that would easily own you. And I’m starting to get concerned, since you think everything revolves around sex. Sex, sex, sex. Really? Is that thought going through your head every time you watch Glee? The only time I think of ACTUAL sex is Quinn’s [and Terri's fake] pregnancy. Other than that, no sex. Just a lot of kissing, because it’s HIGH SCHOOL. And there IS sex in high school, in case you didn’t know; it’s just not ALL about sex.
“JUST MOVE ON FROM THE “LEA IS 23″ NONSENSE, OKAY?”
-It’s your fault; you posted an article with lots of wrong information, claim it to be facts facts facts, and then when somebody points it out to you, you:
[A] Ignore them.
[B] Diss their spelling.
[C] Quote the bible [quotes that aren't even relevant].
[D] Tell them to get their parents [when multiple parents have AGREED with the kids].
[E] All of the above.
Please bubble your answer in completely with a white, triangular cursor. The computer cannot record your answers if you stray from the squares. You will receive your test scores as soon as possible.
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3:35 am
There’s sexting on the show.
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6:14 am
This is the best ‘The Onion’ article I’ve ever read. You’re awesome!
Keep it up and you could write serious articles
All the best.
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9:41 am
im very concerened that this show allows homosexuals to be broadcasted around the world. people like this should be hung out in the tree in my back yard.
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10:20 am
“im very concerened that this show allows homosexuals to be broadcasted around the world. people like this should be hung out in the tree in my back yard.”
Thank you so much. You’re the perfect example of how a person should NOT act.
Since I’m gay and you automatically hate me, I just want to let you know that I don’t like you, either, kthxbai.
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10:52 am
Are you sure you’re gay? Maybe it’s just a phase.
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11:11 am
Are you sure your not a pedo?
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12:25 pm
billings that sentance is basicly admiting that being gay has nothing to do with choice. you are right being gay can simply be a phase to find out your true sexuality. however to question wether another person really is gay with no prior knowledge of the person is extreamly insulting. like coin said: are you sure you’re not a pedophile. are you sure you’re not gay? it may just be phase right?
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1:19 pm
^ That was spot on.
And Billings, I think that if God were to take one look at this website, He’d smack the “Christianity” right out of you and everybody else who uses the religion as an excuse to be a huge ass.
THAT is my belief, and since I believe it, it’s a FACT, and if you say otherwise, you’re EVIL and going to hell.
See how that works?
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1:53 pm
Plus stop trying to turn this site into a homosexual dating service, thank you.
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1:54 pm
Please stop trying to turn this site into a homosexual dating service, thank you.
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2:19 pm
You’re the one always trying to “recruit interns.”
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2:59 pm
“Please stop trying to turn this site into a homosexual dating service, thank you.”
How the hell was I doing that?
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3:14 pm
Homosexuals: There is no great dark man!
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3:52 pm
“Homosexuals: There is no great dark man!”
Wait…so…you’ve gone from randomly quoting the Bible to randomly quoting Quentin Crisp? Your satire is showing, sir…
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4:06 pm
Yes, I found that line on a page of quotations about homosexuality. Basically, it means that homosexuality is a false enterprise, something which will never satisfy your body or soul. I thought it quite appropriate.
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No… it means, in a more recognizable term, there are no knights in shining armor out there ready to sweep anyone off their feet. Quentin Crisp uses the term in his memoir. He was -very- gay. The brash ignorance that accompanies homophobia is mind-boggling at times.
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4:36 pm
“Yes, I found that line on a page of quotations about homosexuality. Basically, it means that homosexuality is a false enterprise, something which will never satisfy your body or soul. I thought it quite appropriate. ”
Perhaps if you had actually done some “research” and read that quote in the “context” of the book, you might know that is almost the exact opposite of what Crisp was “actually” saying.
It is from Crisp’s autobiography, “The Naked Civil Servant.” He was talking about how he had always been searching for the ideal man – “The Great Dark Man.” Someone who was everything he felt he was not, but he eventually came to terms with the fact that there was no such person, and thus he proclaimed “there is no great dark man.”
It is not denouncing homosexuality. In fact, it proves that homosexuals are just the same as heterosexuals – minus their sexual preference – because we ALL go through the same struggle. Women are constantly searching for their “Prince Charming,” the idealistic man of chivalry, charm, and attraction, while men are constantly searching for their damsel in distress – beautiful and in need of someone to protect her. But the problem is that these fantastical people do not exist except for the fairy tales which we are fed from an early age.
The point: do a bit of research before you misrepresent another man’s words, dipshit.
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4:58 pm
“Ambiguous”– I’m sorry if I’ve asked this already, but are you the gay one? I always get the handles on this message board confused.
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No, I am very much straight, I just believe in this little thing called treating others as you would like to be treated, or in the original form which you may be more familiar, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I also am of the belief that the phrase “All Men are created equal” was intended to mean “All human beings are created equal,” as opposed to “All white, heterosexual males are created equal,” as you and your CW cronies seem to think it means.
Now before you jump down my throat asking what I was doing reading gay literature if I’m straight, I’ll go ahead and beat you to the punch. I discovered this wonderful little invention – it’s really neat, you should try it sometime. It’s called Google. All I had to do was type in your little quotation there and found all the information I needed to know about the ORIGINAL context in which the quote was written and what the author was meaning when he said it. I also looked up Quentin Crisp’s bio on Wikipedia for some more info about him and the book.
You see, this is what is called “researching a topic” before going around spewing crap out of your ass, pretending like you know what you’re talking about when in fact you are just proving yourself to be a total idiot.
Seriously though, you really oughta check out that Google sometime. You might actually start getting some facts right every once in a while if you did. I’ll give you the address: http://www.google.com
Check it out!
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1:20 am
I find it disingenuous that you try to pass yourself off as an expert in something that you have only just Googled seconds before.
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This coming from the idiot who tried to pass himself off as an expert on something that he had not bothered to research at all, whatsoever? This was my point, Stevie. I took a few seconds to research something, and in those few seconds I was able to completely discredit you. Had you spent those two seconds yourself, you might have saved yourself the embarrassment and not made such a preposterous claim about a quote for which you had absolutely no idea what it meant in its context.
And YOU call ME disingenuous? Perhaps you’re confused about the definition of disingenuous, so here’s another English lesson from good ol’ Merriam Webster (YES, I copied and pasted this one, too! Send out the hound dogs!):
Main Entry: dis·in·gen·u·ous
Pronunciation: \ˌdis-in-ˈjen-yə-wəs, -yü-əs-\
Function: adjective
Date: 1655
: lacking in candor; also : giving a false appearance of simple frankness : calculating
Now, let us analyze this.
YOU: Post a quote by an author, do not cite where or who the quote is from, and then post what you claim to be the meaning of the quote, and trust us, your readers, to take your word that you are correct in the meaning of the quote.
ME: I took your little quote, found out some REAL information about it, and proved that your analysis of its meaning was completely bass ackwards, thereby discrediting you.
Which of those examples is a) lacking in candor, b) giving a false appearance of simple frankness, and/or c) calculating?
Serioulsy.
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4:42 pm
I am a practicing Christian and an avid supporter of Glee. My uncle is Archbishop in London and so my insight to my faith is extensive to say the least. I am insulted by your views of homosexuality and G-d has assured me you will be condemned for spreading hatred. You should brush up on your journalistic skills, Mr. Billings, because journalism requires integrity. Glee is a fine show and it is celebrated because it demonstrates all types of personalities and people from different walks of life. If you’re any kind of Christian you would know that that is celebrated.
May the Lord help you.
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5:06 pm
Ok so this guy is most likely closet homosexual himself… I mean, who writes things like, “They’re constantly dropping their shorts and jumping into a steamy shower, showing off tight biceps or lathering themselves all over with a fresh bar of soap…” Just having that detail makes me think that you are gratifying yourself as you watch, and then blog about it afterwards as some sort of atonement… Thats pretty pathetic.
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6:28 pm
seriously billings it’s getting REALLY pathetic now.
first you throw random acusations jump of to make other completly random acusations that can be disproved by scrooling a bit up on the page…and then you start throwing random quotes out of context that you have not only misinterpritated but also turns out to speak against you…wow just…wow.
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12:22 am
And posting that pic of Puck at the top of this article — was that intended irony or something? How are you going to have half of the article bashing homosexuality, but then the cherry on top is a shirtless guy [tyvm, though =P]?
““Ambiguous”– I’m sorry if I’ve asked this already, but are you the gay one? I always get the handles on this message board confused.”
I think you mean me.
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1:15 am
I’m sorry if this sounds intrusive, but I’m curious. What type/style of homosexual are you? Are you college-educated? Do you read books?
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2:47 am
Wow. Just. Wow. That was bigotted even for you, Billings.
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4:30 am
btw what kind of christian are you billings? do you read any other books than the bible? do you have contact with people who do not agree with you 100% do you live in an underground bunker waiting for the comeing apocalypse send by god because the world is falling into sin?
or trying to take the (hopefully) more productive route: those things have nothing to do with being gay. being homosexual means one thing and one thing only and that is that the person is attracted to people of the same gender. everything else is personal traits that has nothing to do with a persons sexuality. sure there are obnoxious gay people who’sz in your face with it and is undereducated….but the same can be said about christianity and every group of people.
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4:42 am
What kind of ‘investigative journalist’ are you, Mr. Billings? Are *you* college educated? Do you *read* the books you quote from?
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10:12 am
“I’m sorry if this sounds intrusive, but I’m curious. What type/style of homosexual are you? Are you college-educated? Do you read books?”
??? Type? Style? Are you joking? I’m my own person, how about that?
I want to go to college, and I love reading books. Though I don’t see what those have to do with being gay.
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10:18 am
Stephenson,
You’re doing a great job with this site. This is truly great parody of shallow, white Christianist thinking! A shame so few can see it for the satire it clearly is. Keep up the good work!
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12:31 pm
Very funny, pervert, but throwing out your childish claims to disparage me won’t work. And it’s not “my” site, I’m just a news journalist whose work is submitted here from time to time. Christwire is a collective, spiritual effort. We should all be thanking Pastor Jack Gould, the brains behind the j-pegs!
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12:52 pm
“news journalist”, HAH! If you’re a news journalist, I’m Boris Karloff!
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3:26 am
What exactly did he say that made him a pervert? Oh, wait. Yes. This is just you being a bigot again and hurling random, irrelevant insults at anyone who a) disagrees with you and/or b) is of the belief that this site is nothing but a satirical jab at right-wing nutjobs. My bad. Carry on.
You gonna start yelling at me to calm down now? Or are you going to throw another random, irrelevant Bible quote at me? Or how about just a generic random, irrelevant quote that you will then make up a meaning for that supports your argument?
I would love that last one, because then I could go try out that new Google thing again and, again, prove what an idiot you are so that you can call me disingenuous again (or perhaps this time you’ll try to branch out and show just how “smart” you are by calling me something like duplicitous, guileful, insidious, or mendacious instead) so that I can, again, prove what a hypocrite you are by, again, providing the definition of disingenuous (or duplicitous, guileful, insidious, mendacious or whatever word you choose to “insult” me with this time) courtesy of, again, our good ol’ friends at Merriam-Webster, thereby proving that YOU, in fact, are the disingenuous (or duplicitous, guileful, etc…) one so that you can, again, accuse of the UNFORGIVABLE SIN of copying and pasting, thereby proving to anyone who is not a complete idiot that the person behind the “character” of Stephenson Billings is either a) a brilliant satirist or b) the second (after the Writer Formerly Known as Shat, of course) biggest most idiotic douchebag in not just the continental USA but the WHOLE FRIGGIN’ WORLD.
Phew. That was a run-on sentence to give Douglas Adams a run for his money…My editor would go into cardiac arrest if she ever read that…
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3:45 am
My friend, why are you so unhappy?
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4:02 am
A) Whoever said I was unhappy? I am actually extremely happy with my life. In fact, reading your articles and nonsense responses on here increases my happiness on a daily level by boosting my self-esteem up several notches. I just have a strong hate/dislike of bigots, such as yourself, who hide behind the Bible as an excuse to hate.
B) I am not your friend. If you are confused as to why, see the last sentence of A).
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7:11 am
Mr Billings,
I have noticed that you continually quote the bible to those who disagree with you. Do you realise that that particular text was written over 2000 years ago, and is completely out of sync with todays society. If you are going to force your religion onto others than I can assume that you do not work, or really do anything on the Sabbath, lie, eat more than you should, you are not proud, you dont get angry, you love your neighbour as you love yourself etc etc. Ohh, wait, no you do not love your neighbour as you love yourself, because you are continually attacking gays. I dont understand what you have against them, they are not hurting you, are they? And if you really were and ‘investigative journalist’ you would have looked further into the information you have collected to write this ‘informed artical’ and found that Lea is 23, not thirty, the actor from the Titanic is infact Victor Garber, an open gay, and that the actor that plays the character you so sensitivly refered to as ‘Artie Wheelchair, was actually a singer in a well known boy band. You are an insensitive, idiotic, naive moron, that knows less about the world than a 16 year old (me). I dont think you know this, but teachers have to teach us about sex, drugs, abortion, sexuality and most of the other prominent issues featured in Glee. As much as you may wish, but these issues exsist, you cant get rid of them by sending your children into the world without knowledge of what happens in the world. My family speaks to me about these issues to warn me, but I know that I need to make my own mistakes in order to learn.
I feel sorry for you, as you must hold a great deal of hate and contempt in your heart, being as horrible as you are to gays. You must hold some kind of world record as you are able to be insensitive, a biggot and an idiot in 5000 words or less.
Please stop making a mockery of REAL journalism.
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7:16 am
What does time have to do with anything? Do you think we should ban the Constitution just because it was written a couple hundred years ago? This is why Plato made comments about plebs and women having their place and it certainly not being in the major affairs of the empire, no offense.
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7:32 am
I did not say that it is completely irrelevant, but that it was written for a society 2000 years ago. And you cannot disagree that some parts of the constituion are out dated now, with the advance in technology etc etc. My original point was that if you truly followed the bible these days, you would end up locking yourself in a padded room for the entire of your life, and I dont know about you, but I dont think anyone is going to do that.
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3:09 am
Wait, I have just reread your reply to my comment, did you just suggest that I have no ‘place in the affairs of the capital’ because I am a woman? Which WOULD make you a sexist
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7:55 pm
I think people are missing the point of a lot of the episodes. There are greater meanings in the episodes. Greater messages to take away and learn from. Kids nowadays are not stupid, unless you want to keep them sheltered and naive about the real world. Everything in the show is a perversion of the real world, but all the things presented exist in real life, so if you don’t want your kids to be exposed to real life issues then don’t show them the show, shelter them, and tell them that the world is not a vicious and competitive place. Plus, the main message of the show is that many different types of people can come together and work together in harmony, and it doesn’t matter who you are, you have the ability to achieve greatness if you work toward it. If that’s a blasphemous idea, then God is really sick deity for believing that believing in yourself to strive for the best is wrong.
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7:57 pm
hmmmm…a television show that says “hey! you don’t have to be pigeonholed! you can sing, *and* play football” is a great thing.
It sends a very positive message to kids *and* adults that it’s ok to live outside of your comfort zone, to take a risk and try something different, and to still be proud of who you are.
In an era when teen suicide is at an all-time high, a show with a positive message is a GOOD thing, despite the ramblings of a writer who not only struggles with his own sexuality (and quite obviously at that), but also is a poor critic when it comes to judging acting skills, script writing, and well, humanity.
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10:35 pm
I agree that Glee is not suitable for young children. But then again, it’s not aimed at them. It’s cleary aimed at an older audience, hence the fact that it is on at a fairly late timeslot. Besides, not everyone wants to watch only ‘wholesome’ programmes (UK spelling from someone living in the UK, before the spelling Nazi in you makes an appearance): gameshows, talent searches and children’s TV programmes are not exactly my cup of tea.
Furthermore, I challenge you to find me a single TV programme which accurately reflects reality. Chances are there are few, if any: we use TV as a form of escapism; watching our everyday lives played out on screen defeats that purpose somewhat.
Parents should be able to make an informed decision about what their children watch (informed being the operative word here). In future, I suggest you do some proper research rather than blowing certain things out of proporion.
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3:08 am
I have to say that I totally disagree with you Mr. Billings. I believe completely the opposite of him. I like this show because it’s fun and it has good messages for everyone. You said that the show has ‘far to many musical numbers’. Uh hello!! It’s a show about music called Glee. What did you expect?! How very Christian of you to tear apart a show like Glee instead of going after other shows and movies that deliberately promote rape, guns, and violent homophobia. I guess those shows are ok with you right? I just don’t get it!!!
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2:15 pm
You essentially just spoke out against sensitivity and creativity. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a society in which those who strive to express themselves artistically, through dance or singing or acting, are just as accepted as the world’s football stars. Would the United States BE such a bad place if middle aged men were a little more in touch with their hopes and dreams? I certainly don’t think so.
I also disagree with your assertion that it is unrealistic for young children to believe they can find multiple things they enjoy in life. As both an athlete and an artist, I ask you to rethink your assumptions about the ability to switch roles in life. My highschool days were spent much like many characters of glee, rushing from golf matches to dance class. Both pursuits served me well and I am no worse off for following both of my passions.
Glee is certainly NOT for young kids. It does deal with adult issues, but to say that it wrongfully encourages children to pursue their dreams is a detrimental notion. If you tell a child from the beginning “you will only ever be one thing,” you immediately set them up for failure. There are multiple examples in the world of people who successfully make the jump from one career to another. Glee, in it’s unrealistic and musical world, encourages viewers to think outside of their boxes. Is that such a bad thing?
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10:15 pm
Glee is a show about love and acceptance for all… I hope that you will eventually come to understand it.
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12:42 am
I find it the greatest irony that there is a sponsored link on the bottom of this page to Palm Springs, California. Apparently it is America’s “Gay Oasis” and they “know what you need”. Tell me, Mr Billings, did they pay you in cash or “in kind”?
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1:13 am
Recently, I wrote about studies that revealed the dangerous influence that the 1980s tv show “The Golden Girls” had on American men now in their 30s, 40s and 50s (see “The Golden Girls: How One TV Show Turned A Generation Of American Boys Into Homosexuals”). The link between watching the Girls and increased risks of homosexual behavior was made abundantly meaningful. In a nutshell, the Golden Girls turned a generation away from procreation. It made our American boys into the most raunchy, campy, carnal people on the planet. If, as a society, we could have returned to the 80s with what we know now and stop that show, American culture might be drastically different today.
Causation vs. Correlation…. look it up.
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1:57 am
As a lesbian, I’m a bit offended that you didn’t mention how Jane Lynch is an out lesbian in real life. I bet Jesus is probably looking down at her with hate-filled eyes as we speak. It’s probably taking a lot of willpower on his part to not smite her with a few lightning bolts.
Please, stop thinking about penis for a minute, and remember to hate the lesbians too!
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10:33 am
In my opinion, a lot of these things you are taking a little too seriously.
Glee was made for teenagers and not children. And if you would like to bar your children from this TV show then that’s quite reasonable.
So, my point is: yes, there may be your odd queer and yes there may be a few actions gesturing towards the unholy, but you’re picking every single little blip off the show!
I do not doubt that most parents, instead of taking some advice, would probably take this as more of a statement of biased hatred toward the TV show.
And, it is understandable that you are worried about the possible influence that this may cause toward teenagers, -and let’s face it, Glee, and pretty much every other show hosted on the canon channels, is not completely innocent- but you’d expect them to show a little less attention to the many (mostly) non-obvious blips you pointed out. And, it so happens, that it is very obvious that they couldn’t work that killer talent up from scratch at their minor ages. The show, without it’s outstanding performances, would probably have thousands less viewers than now. And if some may be fooled that this is possible, then at least they have something big to work toward.
Please! I mean, we have Jesus to work toward. I don’t think this kind of talent would be a poor goal.
That’s about all I am deciding to say, hope it is of some value.
All in all, thanks for the thoughts and a brilliant discussion topic.
Regards
The Neutral
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11:28 am
Educational!
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1:49 pm
I am utterly amused that this page is sponsored by google-ads, currently advertising gay-parship.com
I love it – there is a God!
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8:29 pm
Billings hasn’t responded for days; did someone finally KO him?
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2:51 pm
EXODUS 21:7
nice book you wackos are following there!
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1:21 pm
Mr. Billings, please remove your homophobic head from your anus. Actually you are probably one of those males that was watching the Golden Girls becasue you seem fascinated and obsessed with the homosexuality of the show Glee. Hey, I’ve got an idea, don’t watch it moron. This article alone should turn many away from christianity. That is the christian way, all the hate and unfounded rhetoric all in the name of Jesus. I have a feeling hypocrisy is reining supreme in the Billings household where on one hand you denounce the show Glee all the while having butterflies in your stomach while you watch.
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8:17 pm
I just wanted to say that Rachel is actually 23, 7 years younger than what you claim. And she, Mr Shuester, and Artie are actually the three with the most singing experience, so your claim about Artie not being able to sing is ridiculous. Plus there’s been no locker room gay orgies
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9:27 pm
I hope this moronic writer wasn’t paid to write this bigoted drivel. Stupid, bigoted and hypocritical – couldn’t get much worse.
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9:49 pm
What about other musical’s, they bust out into songs, and there is nothing wrong with gays, you’ve never cared about it in any other shows like the OC when the girl who played Marissa suddenly felt for the same sex. And I’ve watched this show from the start, its a tv show, not real, so why would kids and teenages believe it and it won’t turn anyone gay, if a boy or girl watches this show and they are gay chances are the show had nothing to do with it, its their own choice.
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12:16 am
Wow, this has generated a lot of controversy, hasn’t it? I mean, there’s controversy like a Facebook status flaming someone else, and then there’s no flash for iPad level controversy! At least you have some journalistic talent: getting people to pay attention. It’s all about the ratings, not the content! just ask any news network, especially fox! By the way, could anyone do anything about the load times for this website? AdBlock helps, but not by much.
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4:27 pm
As a conservatory student of musical theater, I will tell you that you are incorrect in your statements about theatre, music and dance – the quality of these – on the show. (I’m not saying I like what is on the show…because it’s cheap and corny, but that isn’t my point of writing this.) Not only this, but you make accusations about what it takes to be successful in the field/in arts and these false accusations contradict what you say a few sentences before!
This is poorly written and based on nothing substantial other than your desire to gripe about something to make you feel better about yourself. Wake up. GROW up. And Open your little eyes and brain. From reading this article, I’ll go ahead and say that your perception of the world is seriously twisted. Sorry. Read my blog for just a TASTE of logic-based truth…which is for what I am constantly searching: the TRUTH.
If you’d like details of how you may edit the aspects of this article based on music, dance, theatre, and the arts, I’d be more than willing to help – but judging from the tone of what you’ve written, I doubt you’d be willing to listen.
You are foul for trying to impose your beliefs (backed by religion and morals) onto others. Of course, I know that I didn’t have to come to this site and didn’t have to read and didn’t have to comment… Still – try approaching your writings and thinking from scientific means or life-based logic…think about what you say before you write it and IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU AFTER YOU’VE THOUGHT UP EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE argument, then post. Otherwise, you just create a blog full of material that most deem to be silly, laughable, and unsubstantial.
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12:22 am
I hope this article was supposed to be a parody, but sadly know it was meant to be taking seriously. Glee has it’s flaws, and perhaps not everyone will enjoy it, but to call it a bad role model for children, that’s not just one step to far, that’ s a leap of a cliff.
First of all, I’ve had plenty of public school teachers that were far from suffering. And the show has reportedly shown Will (the Glee club director since I don’t think you’ve watched more than 5 minutes of this show) concerned about money.
Glee is built off of musical numbers, if you don’t like musical numbers you probably shouldn’t be watching the show. But I think they move the plot along, are far from repetitive and show off the amazing voices of the cast.
And careers in the arts are difficult to obtain, but are careers are professional athletes. Art school is difficult to get into but the rewards of graduating from one are many. Why do you think there are so many applicants to Julliard each year. The mentioning of Glee club getting more scholarships than football was a joke that has been revealed to most everyone on the show. If audiences can’t pick up on that they have no real shot at college scholarship or not.
And just to be clear are you claiming that Glee has some sort of effect on childhood obesity rates. Because A) watching sports doesn’t burn anymore calories than watching singing, you have to actually get up and do something to get in shape. And B) sports are not the only form of exercise and are therefore not “essential” for keeping in shape. Unless you think walking, yoga and the stair master are sports.
The way you tackle the issue of homosexuality bothers me on so many levels. The fact that you use the word “cure” as if it is an illness. The fact that you think the character of Kurt somehow will turn people gay. Just for your information, there is no concrete evidence that television, or any external factor really, turns people gay or straight. Glee may be a popular show but I hardly think it can get inside your genetic makeup and force you become homosexual.
You claim that Glee does not show the other side of the homosexuality debate. While it is true that no one has said” I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.” (And I would be personally worried if they did because that is a horrendous piece of writing), Glee has shown that no everyone approves of Kurt’s life and he is the subject of many insults, non of which are ever apologized for. Kurt and the audience but extension are shown that some people are no going to agree with you and you just have to look past that and live your life. You may not agree with the concept of homosexuality, that is your right, but it is not your right to force your views unto other people who do not want or need them.
The last paragraph in your article just mentions too much for me to respond to. But I wish you would take a second look at the phrases stem cell party drugs and perverse intellectual terrorist a second time and ask yourself if they really apply to a television show.
Lea Michele, is not thirty, she is 23. She’s not portrayed as ugly, merely a out of the ordinary sense of fashion. And why must you bold her religion, as if that’s her main defining characteristic? Not everyone in the world is Christian, you should practice a little tolerance.
“Wheelchair” aka Kevin McHale is in a band so I’m pretty much certain that he can sing. All the songs are produced to sound more finished and while that may not be the best choice, all the actors on the show have serious singing talent, that’s why they got the parts.
Victor Matlin as Kurt’s father is one of the most touching child/parent relationships I’ve seen on television. I think the fact that you find a father supporting his son for the person he unseemly says more about you than the writers of the show.
I suppose the fact that you only mentioned half the cast in your summaries is a good thing, though your choices do puzzle me. You left out Puck, the “stud” who sleeps with women twice his age, (sometimes they’re even married) and Tina, who sang a song entitled “I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It” I’m sure you’ve heard of that one. It just confirms to me that you’ve never actually watched more than selected clips of this show and pushed them to fulfill whatever context you had in mind. Next time if you’re going to attack a show for being Anti-Christian could you at least have the decency to look up some basic facts. Please and thank you.
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1:01 am
yep, more realistic high schools shows focusing on the real issues..
episode 1, the planning of a high school shooting
episode 2, how to get knocked up in ten days.
episode 3, the high school shooting,
episode 4, mommy, im pregnant.
episode 5, dad, i got me ass kicked at school by the bully, how was your day
episode 6, im bored so im going to make a sexual harrassment claim against the gym teacher.
episode 7, i cant sing for sh*t.
episode 8, if i touch my self there, what will happen.
yep, we need more realistic shows..
departing thought, its a tv show called glee, if u like it, watch it, if not, turn the bloody tv off
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1:19 am
Ahahahaah yeah no.
“Subtext”? What subtext (this is no offense to the writers just that there is absolutely no hiddin messages)
Finn isn’t bi, he’s straight
They don’t even consider abortion an option
Rachel isn’t popular cause she’s a singer, which arn’t exactly popular in highschools
Kurt, ok STFU ’cause Kurt’s awsome! And last time I checked, wearing flamboyant clothing isn’t a fetish, i mean if it was, the pope would be a fackin’ pornstar
Will, it’s not adultary if they don’t DO ANYTHING!!! SERIOUSLY THEY HUGGED LIKE ONCE!
The football coach is… just too funny to even yell at you about,
Artie, yes they do, do lipsynching, do you know why, shut up of course you don’t, you do realise how hard it is to push a wheelchair around, and sing at the same time?
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1:24 am
Also about the musical numbers?
It’s a show about a GLEE CLUB! y’know a SHOW CHOIR!? LIKE SINGING AND DANCING?!
I’m proud to say I’m in a vocal jazz percusion ensemble (laymans terms: jazz and beatboxing) that has been going at our school for well over 20 years.
Yes there are alot of musical numbers, thats probably because it’s a show about a show choir…
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8:16 am
Reading this article really makes me scared of the future. One would think that people were accepting of other people, regardless of their orientation, race, gender, religion or anything else that makes them at all ‘different’ from norm; I see that with you and those who think like you, this is not the case.
It seems that what I learnt in church as a child and from a Christian camp I went on in high school is untrue; forgive me my ignorence but I was under the impression that God and Jesus loved all people. I must however be mistaken, as your article has made it clear to me that accurate portrayals of high school students on fictional tv shoes are turning myself and fellow teenagers into shallow, promiscuous, homosexual “future terrorists”.
I am an atheist fifteen year old girl and I know for a fact that what you’re saying is completely untrue. People are born gay or bisexual and it’s not something to be “cured” of and to suggest that it is implies it is a disease; it is not. I am a straight girl and although I am young, I am completely comfortable with my sexuality. I know where I stand in the world. This year my school is doing a production of the musical ‘RENT’ which I intend to be in; you may have heard of this particular musical as it is exactly the type of thing that you would hate. Most of the characters are gay or bisexual (and indeed most of the cast of the movie adaption are too) and some of them are even suffereing from AID’s or HIV which is predominate amongst the gay community. I’ll just let you recover from the shock of a fifteen year old being in such a thing.
When my father watched the movie after I told him I was going to be performing it he said, “Make sure you get me a ticket.”
Imagine that… my father is supportive of me and my actions. Shocking isn’t it? I know that performing a gay or bisexual character in a play is very different from being gay or bisexual but I honestly don’t see the problem with either.
I have many lesbian friends and I don’t treat them any different from my straight friends, I even let them share my bed on sleepovers; the weird thing is though, none of them have tried to seduce me, force themselves on me or even try to watch me getting changed. This must also astound you because you have made it very clear that gays are perverted and will try to convert you to their nefarious ways. Strange isn’t it, the way the things you say are facts are completely false?
Now I know what you’re going to say, why am I on this when it’s meant for parents? Well I’m on this because I am a minority amongst the population of fifteen year old girls.
I am self-aware and I understand that actions have consequences, I can read a sexually explicit scene in a novel (recommended by my parents, imagine that!) without laughing or sniggering yet when a sex-scene is on the television I prefer to look away.
I do not understand the point or alcohol or drugs and I don’t go to parties if either are present, my idea of a good night invloves a deep conversation on whether the Lord of the Rings books or movies are better.
Although the majority of the people I spend my school days with have had sex with multiple partners (and a fair few girls dropped out of high school due to pregnancy), I have never had a boyfriend (or girlfriend), a first kiss and I am proudly a virgin, I take responsibility for my actions and although I tell my parents I can take care of myself, I know that I wouldn’t last a month without them and I am strong enough to admit that. The characters portrayed in Glee are representations of people like who I know very well; they are stereotypes who, over the course of the show, develop into real people who deal with real issues like ones that I see people going through every day. Glee is meant to be over-the-top, you can tell this by merely listening to Sue Sylvester speak. The show takes refuge in audacity and it does it wonderfully. I may not be a parent but I am a little sister and as such has spent my entire life being told by my brother that certain movies or books are out-of-bounds; and guess what, I don’t look at them. When my brother doesn’t let me see or read something I know it’d for a legitimate reason because he doesn’t treat me like a baby. He remembers being my age and so he knows what’s too much and what I can handle and when two years have passed and he thinks I’m old enough, I have a look at whatever my previously forbidden thing was and thank him for not letting me see it when I was younger – it could have ended badly. At fifteen, he knows I’m no innocent flower who will be scarred forever at the mention of sex or the sight of a breast on the television. I am allowed to watch what I want because at fifteen, I am capable of making my own decisions. If there’s something I can’t handle I stop watching it. Teenagers should be allowed to make their own mistakes – if we live sheltered lives we’re going to be very surprised when we move out of home.
In short, you have discriminative opinions which you are calling ‘facts’ and the facts that you do have are in general completely false. The essay I wrote on Vikings when I was twelve is better researched than this article and at that time, I didn’t even know of the existance of online encyclopedias. It shouldn’t be up to the parents to decide whether their teens are allowed to watch something or not. Thirteen and older should have the opportunity to decide themselves, and the twelve and under kiddies: if they did happen to tune into an episode by chance, the types of things you’re worried about would go straight over their heads, they don’t understand what Emma meant by, “When you’re older that’ll turn out to be a blessing.” in reference to having no gag-reflex; I mean seriously, my nineteen year old sister didn’t even understand that.
Maybe you should try reading up on Glee and actually watching all the episodes, google could be a great help for you.
People are willing to listen more and consider your opinions if you can actually base them on facts.
(Also, ‘theatre’ and ‘theater’ are both accepted spellings. One is the original Queens English spelling, and the other is the bastardised Americanism. Long live the Queen.)
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8:40 pm
Wow. A fifteen-year-old girl just wrote a comment that completely kicks this article’s ass out the window. Way to go, Katie!
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Why thankyou,
I think it turned into a bit of a rant in the middle there but the comment box is called ‘Speak Your Mind’, so I think that’s justified.
I just don’t like to take things lying down – particuarly from someone who as an investigative journalist has the power to influence peoples minds.
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3:34 pm
I haven’t read so much fucking bullshit in my entire life. So being gay is bad? Well fuck yourself. Instead of criticising and totally fucking see it from your point of view, I’d say look the fuck at others and see how it helps them. This is bull for the most part. Just effing insane….
Glee is not perfect, but it is just overly exaggerated. Just go fuck yourself and learn a lesson outta it. Ever heard of gay rights?
LEA EFFING MICHELE IS FUCKING 23 years old..get over yourself….and Rachel Berry is not disliked because of her looks..it’s her attitued….GAWD WATCH THE EFFING SHOW CLOSELY AND EFFING FOLLOW THE PLOT BEFORE YOU WRITE SUCH CRAP.
I am proud to watch this called bull, because it’s not as effing retarded as some other shows in this world. Gawd get over yourself…get a life…go out and life and stop writing crap like this, you’d do all of us a favor…
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3:59 pm
The author’s description of this show reminds of a book I read once. It was a book that heavily promotes violence, rape, murder, incest, and so much more. It also is full of contradictions, misinformation, and fairy tales. I believe that book was titled the Bible.
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7:01 pm
This is the most ridiculous article I’ve read in my entire life. Whoever wrote it has clearly never seen the show.
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11:18 pm
I usually welcome opinions other than mine (when they’re backed intelligently), but this is just ridiculous. First of all, there are plenty of flaws in the research of your writing. As it has been previously stated, Lea Michele is 23 years old. And she is well known in the theatre world for playing a 15 year old. So she is by no means 30 or passable for that age. In fact, all the principle female high school students are played by 23 year old actors. The men on this show for the most part are the older ones. Secondly, Artie is the only one who had a pop career prior to this show, making him a bonafide singer (and don’t get me started on the sidekick/catchphrase comment… that would cheapen the show terribly). Saying that Mercedes sticks out like a sore thumb and should be in a gospel choir is such a thinly veiled racist comment it’s not even funny. Not to mention all the hurtful comments on Kurt, who is in fact played by a teenager so it might be nice to take into account the age of the person you’re writing hurtful things about. Matt Morrison, the teacher, is precisely the opposite of a gay actor, so yet again, you’ve made assumptions because of his profession and done absolutely no research. To state that a show about a glee club has too much singing is preposterous. It’s the PREMISE! Some high school students are in fact that talented (and some have had copious amounts of training as some of these character just might have). And not all high schools are in the ghetto. My high school experience was much more akin to that of the world of Glee than the one you’ve presented. I’m not even going to dignify the idea that gays can be converted or that it was necessary to point out that Rachel is Jewish, as it would frustrate me beyond belief and I’m trying to present an educated response. In closing, I would like to point you to the wonderful BBC documentary called “The Making of Me:John Barrowman”, in regards to shows turning people gay. While I know you won’t listen to people stating why would anyone chose to be discriminated against, maybe you’ll at least listen to scientific facts proving that people are born gay. And like I said, as long as you respond in an intelligent and educated way, I’m fine. I have nothing against people of faith, so don’t even try to state otherwise.
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1:56 am
Conservative is right. Watch the show before degrading it. There is not “explicit language” used unless you call “Crap” a “explicit”. I love Jesus and He is my Lord and Savior and I enjoy and eagerly wait to see the next episode of GLEE weekly. I can’t handle the ignorance of this entire thing. I laughed reading it the entire time. Jesus loves you and He loves people just like Kurt. The only way to reach those kids is to love on them. So why are you judging? Isn’t that God’s Job?
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4:44 am
DidI miss the Sunday that said Christians should be condemning, judgemental, unforgiving and hypocritical?
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9:46 pm
WOW!!! Seriously, who the hell are you to write this bashful article?
Have you ever watched GLEE?! You’re making things up left and right! Lea Michele (Rachel) is NOT 30. She’s 23. Kevin McHale (Artie) CAN sing. He was in his own band. And every time you say that they “constantly” do this, or “constantly” do that, it has only happened once..not several times. Get your facts straight. I suggest you watch the show and then reconsider what you have said.
If Glee is so disgraceful, then why has it won almost all the awards it’s been nominated for? Answer me that!
You’re pitiful. Just pitiful. I dont know if you’re just angry at how fast this previously unknown cast has become, or if you have pent up jealousy because you can’t sing or dance as well as they can, but you really have no right to belittle this show with such uninformed comments.
Either go and actually watch the show, or don’t write about Glee again.
You disgust me.
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10:02 pm
Phoebe, thank you for proving my point that most of you are not mature enough to be watching an adult-themed show like Glee. Did you know that “bashful” means shy? Of course you didn’t, my child. I’m sure they’re not teaching you much vocabulary in grammar school these days. Oh and Lea Michael? Why don’t you try to make an ORIGINAL POINT. You’re just following the herd, repeating what every pointless commenter has already said (safety in numbers, right?).
The rest of your comment was disrespectful and offensive.
AND BECAUSE YOU SEEM A LITTLE TOO LAZY TO COMPREHEND MY WRITING, I WILL REPOST WHAT I WROTE ABOVE REGARDING LEA’S AGE:
“I find it very interesting that you people harp on the one little typo of this article– the age of Rachel, who I suggest is made to appear like she’s 30 years old. It was a minor error on my part, I should have made it more clear I was talking about her appearance and not her actual age. But in any event, my point still holds very true. She is far too good-looking to play the ugly duckling and she is far older than the “16″ she is supposed to be (23 is a full SEVEN YEARS older!).
The reason I find this interesting that you’re all focused with Rachel’s age is that you really have no other way to criticize/attack/debate me than to obsess over this one single sentence. You clearly have come here because you did believe there were problems with Glee and it pains you to accept this. You really can’t make the argument that this is a kid’s show and that the content is appropriate considering the vast amount of sexual issues it contains.”
“Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” –Timothy 2:11-12.
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10:48 pm
“‘Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” –Timothy 2:11-12.”
Shut up, you fucking sexist pig. Women have the right to do everything that men do, and that includes speaking, you hardheaded bastard. Just because a female condemns your “article”, you feel the need to pull a degrading biblical quote out of your fat ass. Pfft, some “man” you are. Now please put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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10:57 pm
Ok whoa. First of all, don’t call me child. I am not one.
Secondly, I am not “following the herd” by posting about Rachel’s age. You think I read through all 498 comments to see what everyone said? Of course not. Lets not be ridiculous.
Lastly, I only picked on your comment about Rachel’s age because it was the easiest fact that I could clear up for you. There are so many inaccuracies in your article that it would take me pages and pages to explain, but I dont have that kind of time, and you obviously have a very stubborn opinion. I simply just watch glee because its an enjoyable and funny show. Not because I’m a hater, looking for ways to try to get it off the air.
They wont take this show off the air because Christian people say it’s not good. Christians tried to do that with the show Friends…it didn’t work. There’s no need to stop airing this show..if you dont like it, dont watch it, and dont let your kids watch it. No point ruining it for the rest of us who watch for enjoyment.
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11:08 pm
And yes, how rude of you to post that verse. Just because it comes from the Bible doesn’t make you seem any more holy while you put down women.
I know it’s a commonly misinterpreted verse, but seriously…what a way to lower yourself in this argument. There is nothing worse that a man can do than to insult a woman. Way to go Stephenson.
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10:38 pm
I feel like you’ve been watching a different show.
The things you describe are not what I’ve been seeing on Glee.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I think you may have gone overboard with this your comments about this show. It really is not as negative as you make it out to be.
I think it’s important to let young people see that just being themselves CAN get them somewhere in life. Glee does show this to them.
It’s clear that you’ve been out of high school for some time now, so perhaps you are unfamiliar with the current ways of high school life, but Glee is definitely current and relevant with regards to what teens experience in high school. This show gives them something to relate to in a world where many do not know their place. It gives them hope that things will be ok if they stick to their guns and be who they are. I dont think it’s false hope at all. High school is just a tricky time to get through, and if this show helps them, then so be it! I’m happy they could find something to get them through.
And after all, it IS just a tv show. It doesn’t have to mirror every aspect of life. If glee was being aired on a Christian network, then I can see you having a problem with it, but since it’s not, I dont think you should get this worked up. I think you should focus on bashing “The Secret Life of an American Teenager.” Now THAT’s a messed up show (based on only seeing 1 episode).
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11:00 pm
your resentment is delicious.
Yes, I did just quote Sue Sylvester from GLEE.
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Do you have kids?
Are you under the impression that if we dont talk about sex, our kids wont have sex? Because I think it is definitely the opposite. By seeing what can go wrong by getting pregnant before marriage with someone you absolutely love, then they will not want to have sex and risk it.
Sex is a real thing. We cant just avoid it and hope our kids will abstain. We much teach them and expose them to it.
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11:11 am
“I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
You disgust me! Homosexuals are born that way, surely as a Christian you should be tolerant of those different from yourself. Surely if god created man then he also created homosexuals, if you disagree then does that mean you do not believe god is all powerful? Learn to love thy neighbour and show some understanding instead of prejudice.
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5:18 pm
God gives everyone free will. Just like a baby is not born a murderer, but can learn to do such in time. Gays can choose not to be disgusting and sin with other of the same sex, but they do. And just the same, they will be judged just like the murderers. Make sense?
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5:46 pm
That locker-room description was just so detailed and heavy with a hanging sense of intense, closeted homosexual infatuation that it’s a compelling justification for Billings’ homosexuality.
Oh man, what a joke. Best not to fight with this mediocre basement-dweller, everyone. This is a guy who thinks that sports are infallible gateways to the world’s most prestigious universities like… Ohio State (?). Are Ohio State and Princeton sister schools? I never knew.
Don’t grow up, Billings. Instead, grow down and start over. You’re clearly just… a wrong person.
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8:57 pm
This article is so, so inaccurate I really don’t know what to say….
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I have just three things to say.
You need to watch Grey’s Anatomy and Family. That will teach you what trash is really on television.
Secondly, stop talking just about gays. What about lesbians? There are a lot more of them on TV and they have a lot more on screen kisses (i.e. grey’s anatomy)
Finally, I don’t know when you went to highschool, but I’d say that this is a fairly accurate representation. No my friends cannot randomly break into a musical scene and do it well, but when rehearsed they are quite good. I know a lot of flamboyant gays and I also know a lot of Christians and they get along because Christ taught acceptance. Teen pregnancy, drugs and worse are present in my highschool on a daily basis. Girls turn into sluts, and some stay pure. Guys find out that they’re gay and are still accepted onto the basketball team. America’s youth isn’t failing. We’re becoming more accepting of eachother for whatever we are. It’s the adults who have failed us. The adults that try everyday to make us exclude or dislike on the premis that someone is different. Don’t talk about teens like you know us. There will be no orgy in the locker room. That’s just weird. I can’t believe you would even put hypothetical teens into that situation. It’s almost child pornography.
By the way, the girl that you have dubbed “Jewish Rachel” is 23. Not 30. And if you’ve ever seen the “wholesome highschool musical” those kids are just as old, acting just as young, just in a way that you apparently approve of.
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im almost certain this is satirical guys, the whole website because i read some other articles on here and they are hilarious
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11:56 am
This is why Christians and organized religion get bad reputations. Your analysis of this show and it’s implications are laughable at best. Thanks for the entertaining read!
Btw, I’m a transsexual. Yep, born in a guy’s body but that was a birth defect. How does that rock your world?
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http://christwire.org/2009/03/is-it-normal-for-my-christian-son-to-be-gaywant-a-sex-change/
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thank you for reminding me why I find 97% of Christians irrelevant. I’m not gay, I don’t even like the show. Hell my TV watching is limited to Southpark (which I’m sure is EEEVIL too) and Mythbusters but good grief you people flip out over the most ridiculous things.
In fact the only entry that turns up on a search on this website regarding the show ’24′ which promotes torture, violence (not that violence isn’t acceptable in certain cases where individual rights are violated) but come on.
You all have a page called “Why we miss George W” on your main page right now. Now don’t start screaming about liberalism etc. Because I’m a libertarian, I hate Obama, but I also hated Bush. Until you people start worrying about personal freedom you will be an enemy of those of us that actually understand freedom.
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7:57 pm
Perhaps the best reason to avoid this show is that it is utter shit.
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5:54 pm
If this is in *any* way serious, I can say that I am honestly very, very upset about this. Obviously the person who wrote this has not truly watched Glee, believes that all teenagers are mindless bodies that will sway to whatever the see is “cool”, and that Glee–one of the best shows that I have seen come out of the TV in a long time–is corrupting the morals of the youth of today.
Glee is a show about underdogs, about people who have made bad decisions, about regular people! There is something in this show for everybody and I find the constant jabbing at homosexuals offensive. There is nothing wrong with being gay and the show doesn’t focus on homosexuality constantly…it is only part of its huge storyline.
I’m a 17 year-old Christian girl and I am proud to say that I love Glee and all of its characters, and all of the people who take part in this. My mother, my sister and I all watch Glee together and we’re in love with it.
I will say that I stopped reading halfway through the article because I was getting very upset and I just wanted to comment on this. You’re totally missing the point of Glee. Its a show about love, following your dreams and being true to yourself.
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I genuinely don’t even know where to begin. This entire article is pathetic, & it is truly making me doubt any intelligence you claim to possess. Aside from being blatantly misinformed about the show, or only seeing what you want, your entire approach to this is absurd. You believe that if a child watches this, he or she will become homosexual? If you think that this show has the potential to brainwash someone, go ahead & ask yourself what the Bible has done to you.
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8:50 pm
well, I wouldn’t call it a great satire, but it is very interesting reading, and it did make me laugh out loud a few times (very nice dramatic language), get worried it was serious, and then after ploughing through all the comments realising that it is written to get exactly this reaction. so well done for that.
however, it still scares me that there are people with opinions just like these. Writing a parody and getting to sit back and enjoy the delicious resentment and anger doesn’t change that.
oh, and you missed quite a few opportunities to anger people even more. The sexism could have come in way earlier, and surely you could have made some attempts to reply to these peoples arguments, even with some random twisted reasoning?
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1:31 pm
I havn’t seen the show, but I’ve heard it’s alright from some of my friends. I am a 15 year old Christian boy, and this article sickens me. No wonder people are against Christians if you are promoting such hate! I believe in a loving God, and quite frankly, most of this stuff is un-Christian in my mind. Open your mind a bit, see what you find. You’ll be surprised. If we followed the Bible word from word we would still be owning slaves, women would not be able to speak and everyone who works on Sundays will be killed. Learn to love, not hate – that’s what Christianity’s about, isn’t it? God bless.
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7:28 pm
This article IS a joke, right? Right?!
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6:02 pm
how about the show take place in a Catholic high school and all the teachers are priests and brothers…’cause everybody knows they’re not gay and their children will be safe from exposure to homosexual tendencies …HA HA …this is typical Christian pathology …
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9:26 pm
BWAAHAHAHAHA
Wonderful satire! You’ve captured the “illogical, ignorant and uninformed” Christian opinion almost perfectly.
I really loved the part where you made music out to be a bad thing–it really set off the absurdity of the piece. Obviously sports are much more violent and problematic–I can see Jesus singing “Hosanna” more than throwing a football, can’t you?
Anyway, I enjoyed it! Thanks for the laugh.
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9:29 pm
dude yer an idiot
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11:04 pm
Your command of the English language is astounding.
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10:12 pm
I’m a Gleek. And i’m proud of it
Im sorry you think Glee is so bad, because that means you miss out on something that makes people happy and proud to be unique. It’s a show that celebrate you for who you are. It may seem fake, but it’s not exactly like the characters burst into song, they sing songs in the show because they are a Show Choir. This means they sing in rehearsals, and performances.
I understand you have your views, and everyone is entitled to it, but I think that Glee is made to make people happy about themselves.
From, Gleek
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5:21 pm
I just wish someone from this show would offer an apology for all the damage it has caused for today’s youth. Clearly so many of you little ones have been brainwashed and your parents are just too lazy or they’re a bunch of self-indulgent liberals and have given up on raising you right.
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6:45 pm
If being a liberal parent is so bad, then how do you explain the fact that my sister graduated from high school as one of the top 3 female students in her class and is in the Honors Program and on the Dean’s List at American University, whereas my dad’s friend, a conservative, highly religious Christian living in Texas, now has four illegitimate granddaughters, two born to his unmarried 21 year old daughter and the other two born to his 16 year old daughter who’s had a history of boy and drug trouble?
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8:55 pm
Claire, all that story proves is that you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd.
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10:20 pm
“Claire, all that story proves is that you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd.”
Are you blind or just stupid? Well, I know that the answer is most likely the latter, but try reading my post again. The only “crowd” I’m hanging around with are my fellow Vet Tech students. The girls who I was referring to, the ones who got pregnant, are the daughters of my DAD’S friend, who he hasn’t seen since college, and they are CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES who live in ARLINGTON, TEXAS.
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3:37 pm
Notice how Billings made a complete ass out of himself because he didn’t read through my post carefully enough, and he has since completely failed to respond to my post.
So Billings, let’s try this again: if liberal parents are incapable of raising kids right while Christian conservative parents raise perfect children, how did my extremely liberal parents raise my sister to be a straight-A student, one of the top three female students in her high school graduating class, and on the honor roll and dean’s list at American University? How did they raise me to be still a virgin at 19, to never have dated, to never have done drugs, to never have drunk alcohol, to never go to parties, to never having gotten in trouble EVER in school for my entire school career? On the other hand, how did the extremely conservative, very religious Baptist friend of my father raise three girls, one of which had a child out of wedlock at age 21, another of which had a child out of wedlock at age 16, did drugs, and had boyfriend troubles?
Please, explain that to me.
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10:16 pm
“Claire, you’re a bit overcharged if you really think it’s appopriate for 15 year olds to know all about marriage.”
You’re pretty fucked in the head if you think that 15 year olds should be ignorant to the facts of life.
“I don’t know what they do in Liberal communities, but from where I’m from it’s a bit obscene for kids to know all about breast feeding and all that.”
If breast-feeding is obscene, then why do babies partake in it? How can an act thats only purpose is to provide infants with nourishment and antibodies be deemed inappropriate for children to know about?
“As for child development, I disagree. it seems like today kids are kids for much longer than when I was a youngster.”
Well, the last time I checked, the only 15 year olds in my city who still ate crayons were in the special education class.
“Kids I knew helped out on their family farms as soon as they could walk practically.”
Good luck finding a farm in Cambridge, MA, dipshit.
“Kids just having fun and doing nothing serious with their lives, avoiding marriage to have all sorts of sex all over the place and the drugs, etc.”
Mmmmmmkayyyy…just a few sentences above you tried to claim that a 15 year old shouldn’t have knowledge of marriage…you really need to stop contradicting yourself, bub.
“You’d be surprised how little these kids were when they learned to ride a horse.”
Good for them. Do they want freakin’ medals or something?
“I’m sure your MTv shows that lifestyle every week.”
“MY” MTV? Excuse me, but I avoid that ridiculous channel like the fucking plague. Viewers of MTV tend to be lacking in the brain cell department. MTV shows are only contributing to the image of America as being a shallow nation full of valley girls.
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6:22 pm
Claire you do realize that most of the articles are satire right? are you purposely being ignorant because its funny to watch two people play devils advocate or are you just plain stupid?
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7:10 pm
“Gun Violence”? “Suicide”? Are you serious? This show is about believing in yourself and proving that you are special. So what, Kurt’s gay. Millions of people are!!!
And for the record, Artie (Kevin McHale) is one of the best singers on the show. Of course the actors are trained singers! THey can’t just say to some teen, “Wanna be on a TV show?”
This isn’t a reality show! So fight me, I dont’ care, but I will respond.
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4:23 pm
Quinn, I’m sorry but this show is completely misleading and it attempts to normalize teenage homosexuality which is plain wrong. We should be teaching our children that there are alternatives to dugs and sex not celebrating their pursuit of these dangerous things. I am sorry but that is reality. You had to hear it from somebody if you parents and teachers are failing at giving you this message.
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4:19 am
Clearly you have never watched an episode of Glee. You honestly need to get over yourself. No one cares what you think about this show! it is amazine, and every other teenager feels the same way. None of us care if the school is “un realistic” we still love it. And for you information, Archie (guy in wheelchair) is actually a singer, and is in a band called NLT which are awesome.
None gives a shit about your idiotic, un informed opinion of the show, you can try as hard as you like, but teens everywhere are still going to keep watching the show.
Try watching an episode before you post shit about something all over the web, retard.
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4:27 pm
Counrtney. it does not surprise me that someone addicted and trained on this show would use such inappropriate and foul language. I surely hope your parents review your internet history and see this awful things you’ve said here. Your parents would also benefit from reading this article. They need to know about the garbage you’re watching. Frankly, I am disturbed that they have failed so badly at raising you properly. It’s sad, really.
And yes of course I have seen this show. Not through the rosy glasses you have seen it through, no I have watched it as an adult and a Christian, aware of how dangerous it truly is. I suggest you sit down with your pastor and ask him for guidance.
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12:10 am
Sir,
I just want to say that I grew up in a conservative (Southern Baptist) home. I knew what sex was at an early age. It was a good thing because if I had not learned from my parents, I would have been educated by other children. Not only that, but I was encouraged to have thoughts and ideas. My father felt that was very important, even when I was in middle school. He conversed with me about many topics such as abortion, politics, and boys. father often read to me pieces of the Conservative Chronicle. Yet he once told me while most of his ideas were in line with Conservative ideals, he did not necessarily agree with every article or every idea. He was a believer in individual rights. Knowing about marriage and sexuality is not the same thing as being sexually active. I was not a sexually active teenager. I understood was sex was, and I understood the possible consequences.
Today’s teenager comes across these issues daily. Parents trying to sweep them under the table only gives way to ignorance and misinformation. I would instead encourage a parent to use their own discernment. I would not let an eight year old watch the show, but I would allow it for a teenager. Teenagers are deciding who they are and what they believe. A parent may point them in (what they believe is) the right direction or they leave it up in the air. Saying nothing or attempting to shield teenagers from these issues is only passing the reigns to someone else. If the parent does not guide, others will. I think, sir, you have forgotten what it is like to be young.
It would not be inappropriate for a fifteen year old to be a democrat or republican. Someone of that age should have some values and ideas which may identify with one or the other (or neither). People’s ideas also change as they grow and learn. Some of my ideas are the same, and some have changed as I have reexamined them.
I would also propose that Golden Girls did not “turn” men gay, but that it was viewed by gay men and women. I do not know any (straight) guys that have any interest in watching anything like Golden Girls. It may have been more of the Absolutely Fabulous of its time. I haven’t really watched a lot of Golden Girls as it does not interest me, so I could be off there.
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4:31 pm
Sorry buddy, but your upbringing wasn’t Baptist enough. You are judged by your devotion to Jesus Christ and it really sounds like you have forsaken that in your pursuit of becoming a hardcore liberal. How awful that you should turn your back on the principles of our Founding Fathers to support this evil strain of socialism and radicalism that threatens to destroy our economy and bankrupt our hospitals. You are to blame, do you realize that? You and the millions of others who have turned a blind eye to the march of fascism in this country, stomping on my flag and on my freedom.
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9:39 am
Okay, not going to fight with you because you obviously didn’t watch the show, are a homophobe and an attention seeker.
So I guess we will have to handle your fatal brain disease carefully.
Do you happen to know what devoid means? Also, gun violence? Suicide? In GLEE? I pity your ignorance.
Kurt Hummel being gay. Too like real life for you? Too SIMILAR to you? Are you a closeted homosexual? Is that why you like to pick out random characters and accuse them of being gay?
Well, we know you’re gay and it’s OKAY!
I’m 13. I’m a girl. We learnt about sex 3 years ago. In case you didn’t know, teachers actually cover sex education.
We aren’t ‘desperate for sex’ or ‘influenced by sex on TV’. You’re probably around, what, 75? Maybe you were traumatised by the porn you caught your dad watching back then.
Or maybe you were horrified by your mom having animalistic sex with your crush, on your bed(nice star wars sheets). Well, I’m sorry for you, but don’t take it out criticising
every show with a single sexual reference.
Get with the times.
You apparently lack a sense of humour and want attention. I suggest you speak to a guidance counsellor about your insecurities.
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4:35 pm
I am sorry to hear such crude accusations. I truly believe in the Bible and have devoted my life to helping children. The news I bring is good news, the teachings of Jesus Christ! Modern life is complex and overwhelming. There is too much filth on the internet. I am here to give children an alternative to alternative lifestyles. Please let my words resonate a bit. I guarantee that some day you will have a change of heart and may come to the church begging for forgiveness. I accept the apologies of those who are sincere.
In any event, 13 years old is far too young to be on the internet without your mother watching. She really should not let you out of her sight. Shouldn’t you be playing with dolls or washing dishes anyway?
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11:52 pm
13 year olds don’t play with dolls, dumbass. That comment and the one about doing the dishes is incredibly sexist. Would you tell a boy to do the dishes? Of course not, you’d tell a boy to go play sports so that he can be successful in life.
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2:39 pm
A completely misinformed article that completely misses the point and comedy of Glee. Glee doesn’t promote being gay (which according to all of you here immediately makes homosexual humans dirty and inferior to you), it promotes being accepting of all races, religions and sexual orientations while providing a fresh new musical comedy. Obviously you have not watched the show, as your information is almost all faulty and presents this show in the wrong light.
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4:36 pm
That’s a disgusting thing to say!
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12:22 pm
Sounds like the author of this piece should move to that town from Footloose and live next to the Reverend and the townsfolk who want to burn books.
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10:31 pm
christ doesn’t like hate. remember that.
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4:19 pm
I hate to break it to you, but stuff in Glee is what happens in high schools across America and then some. It’s actually a bit more cartoony and toned down than most shows, but it confronts issues that sadly too many fellow Christians are afraid to confront. The conservative bent of too many Christians take absolutist views and ignore realistic answers to these issues. If accepting Christians cannot reach out to our homosexual brothers and sisters, then what’s the point of being Christian? Honestly, the bigger sin is the hatred too many so called Christians show towards them. I’ve never understood it. It never meshed with Christ’s teachings to me. I look upon a show like Glee as a way to reach out and understand my homosexual brothers and sisters in Christ. For shame on anyone looking down on this show. It shows a refreshingly real look at American high schoolers and the horrible things homosexual teens and teens in general have to go through. Their suffering, is Christ’s suffering.
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4:59 pm
I’m not entirely sure why I read that entire comment section, but it seems that every time someone comes up with a logical point, Mr. Billings refutes them with either:
a) criticism of grammar, tone, spelling, writing style etc.
b) totally irrelevant quotes from the Bible.
No sane human behaves like this. I’m forced to believe that this is all an elaborate satire.
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6:26 pm
is this article for real? O_o it’s hilarious if you’re not being serious, but if you are… it’s the most retarded “analysis” of a TV show i’ve ever read. Christian people are so strange
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8:29 pm
whoever wrote this is a genious! seriously!
i have not laughed this hard in days. where can i get me some “stem-cell party drugs”? haha
bravo, wonderful satire
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11:59 pm
I can not believe someone would take the time out of their day to write such a terrible, judgmental article. This is so offensive. It’s people like you who make people hate Christians so much.
I am ambivalent about Glee. Yes, there are extreme sexual scenes and inappropriate language and subject matter. Those are the problems I have with it. However, it is the situations like these that happen in real life that people have to learn to deal with to survive in society. Also, in your paragraph about giving children in the arts false hope about it helping them get into college, how ignorant can you possibly get? Why would you tell a child they aren’t as important or talented as the football player who just runs into people all day? It takes a fit, healthy person to sing and dance at the same time and make it sound good. You could not be more wrong in about 95% about the things you wrote in this sorry excuse for an article. Please reconsider your argument.
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11:02 pm
This has to be a joke. It takes less than 30 sec to find out that Rachel (Lea Michele) is NOT 30. If it’s not a joke this was the worst investigation job ever.
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11:16 pm
Why Glee? No, seriously, why Glee? Why not Gossip Girl? That show is 100x worse than Glee. There are many other shows much worse for kids than Glee as well.
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2:38 pm
Dear God, I pray for one of two things….1. this article is a joke….or 2. you broke the mold after creating this guy! Love, me
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12:57 pm
“The teachers aren’t the suffering and hardened types you’ll find in real American public schools. This rosy little place of Glee is devoid of gun violence, sexting, drug dealing, suicide and larger questions of faith.”
I went to a normal school in Montana where NONE of the teachers were suffering and hardened, at least from what I could tell. After graduating five years ago I have actually become quite good friends with my former teachers. And are you saying you want the show Glee to bring gun violence, sexting, drug dealing and suicide to the screen for our kids to watch? I would think that you should be against our kids watching that kind of stuff!
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6:05 pm
I watched golden girls as a kid, im 30 now and never had any homosexual urges, why even say such a stupid comment?
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6:16 pm
Are you a Christian, Bob? That may explain how you were able to escape the dangers of sexual experimentation. I should ask what sort of parents let you watch this adult show in the first place. They sound terribly neglectful. I hope that despite such a horrible upbringing that you turned out okay.
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12:13 am
OMG. I actually feel as though I lost some brain cells reading this! I have never watched Glee but it sounds like this person has never watched any TV in the past 100 years!! If you would like to spend time advocating for better TV shows and instructing parents on what Their children shouldn’t watch why not pick shows like the bachelor, which has one man dating multiple girls at the same time, or the real world, or any MTV show?! There is so much bias in this article. I will admit that TV has an impact on society, especially children, but more responsibility needs to fall on the parents. Parents should be teaching, informing, and talking to thier children; TV has become a major support for most parents as a babysitting tool, entertainment, and source of education. If society took responsiblity for younger generations and was less dependant on everyone else teaching children, it wouldn’t matter. Also everything that you mention as a ‘negative’ to the show is a results of what society wants and response to. Look around you; advertisments, billboards, commercials, all reflect the same ‘problems’ you find in Glee. If you want to “protect” the children you might as well tell them to never step out of their house, read any media, watch anything, or listen to anything. Our society has gone too far and this stuff has penatrated too many different levels to avoid it. So if you want to rip apart a TV show, either find a show worthwhile or get a the real root of the problem.
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12:30 am
I don’t have cable so I am not familiar with the shows you’re talking about.
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4:33 pm
If you don’t have cable, you can’t have seen Glee.
You are a liar. A big liar. The worst liar ever.
Get a life.
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3:58 pm
Glee is a Fox show. Fox runs on local broadcast. It is not an exclusively cable station. Fox News, TBS, CNN are cable shows and you are an idiot.
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3:24 pm
I do not remember how I happened upon this website but I did. I feel sick to my stomach after reading some of the bile posted here. To be completely honest I think it’s this site and people who agree with most, if not everything, posted on this site. I am a Christian, baptized when I was 10 years old, and I go to church every Sunday and any time during the week when I am not working. To read something on a Christian site that is so full of hate towards fellow men and woman, it just hurts. This is not what I have learned about God’s love in all my years of being in church services. In fact I’d have to say that if someone who was not saved happened to come across this website and find these reviews. I doubt they would see the loving church and God I’ve come to know and love. I doubt even more that they would ever consider coming to the Lord ever again. Jesus didn’t speak of anyone in this manner and He surely did not treat anyone in this way either. I watch Glee quite regularly and enjoy it as well. I do not see it to be this cesspool of sin and immorality that you paint it up to be. I see a show that has kids going through everyday school life and having to deal with those struggles that a student deals with. I see them over coming adversity through song and each other rather than coming to the school and gunning teachers and fellows students down. Yes Kurt is a gay character and though homosexuality is a sin it is still something that character must work through. Not only that my family and my church have raised me all my life to hate the sin and not the sinner.
This website, these articles, and everything you say in them…well they make me ashamed to be a Christian.
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4:34 pm
Wow. This is probably the most bigoted thing I’ve ever read. I’m not here to bash religion. I am a very devout Christian high school student, and this was absolutely offensive. You make it sound like sex and sexuality aren’t a part of everyday life at high school, but they are. I would know. I’m in high school. Teenagers do get pregnant and get others pregnant. There are kids who admit to being gay, lesbian, and bixsexual. It’s the real world. Please join it.
For your information, there is one, ONE, gay character on this show (if you don’t count Rachel’s dads, who have never been seen). You are acting like every single guy on this show is gay, which is not the case. They do not have gay brothels with each other. And the ONE gay person on this show is not hurting anyone with his sexual preferences. Yes, he has a strained relationship with his father. So do many straight teenage boys. You were also making a reference to The Golden Girls and making that the excuse for the number of gays in our society. First of all, there are no more gay people now than there were before Golden Girls. Men and women just feel more comfortable coming out about their sexuality now because it’s more accepted (at least by some people.) Also, The Golden Girls did not make men gay. Everyone is born with heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or asexual tendencies. These preferences are not formed by society or “evil” television shows. And, Mr. I Know Everything About What God Wants, if God didn’t want gay people in the world, why did he create them?
Oh, and I’m sorry there are too many musical numbers for you on a show that can be considered a MUSICAL genre. It doesn’t bother me if you don’t like musicals. To each his own. But saying there are too many musical numbers is like saying the news reports too much information. And then you go and try to criticize the singing and dancing. The reason everything is so well-choreographed and everyone sounds so good is because it’s a TV show. If the dances were so-so, and the singing was autotuned, no one would watch. And then you go and say that teenagers have these disillusions that they can just start singing and dancing at the drop of a hat. No, we don’t. No one in my high school bursts into song randomly as they walk down the hallway. Yes, this show might encourage students to take an interest in their school’s music program, but in now way does it tell them that they can sing on perfect pitch whenever they please.
Then you go and criticize the characters. I’ve already given you my opinion on your review of Kurt. Sue is supposed to be “pretentious and egomaniacal.” THAT’S HER CHARACTER! And how dare you refer to Rachel as “Jewish Rachel.” Her faith, while it is sometimes part of a punchline, does not reflect very much on her character. Just the way you wrote it made it sound like being Jewish is a sin, but after reading the rest of your article, you probably do. Jews believe in God just as much as you and I, and while they may not believe that Jesus was our savior, that doesn’t make them bad people.
There are so many other shows in the world you could be picking on other than Glee, if your goal was to make parents aware of television shows with bad messages. Gossip Girl. Degrassi. 90210. Melrose Place. Secret Life of the American Teenager. The Hills. Jersey Shore. I’m not trying to hate on these shows, but they present much more questionable messages than Glee. I suggest you try watching some of these shows and finding out what parents should really be afraid of. But, you probably won’t. It doesn’t even seem like you’ve ever watched Glee, at least not by this review.
If you were trying to make a point, you failed. Glee is not going off the air. The songs compiled into an album from The Power of Madonna episode have reached number one on the charts. The talented actors from this show have had countless interviews with many of today’s most-watched talk and news shows. They’ve even sung for the president. And if you’re trying to get parents to not let their kids watch Glee, you’ve failed at that as well. My mom (a more devout Christian than I) and I watch Glee every Tuesday. We look forward to it. I’ve just recently got my Nana to watch as well. Even my dad, who is almost as bigoted as you, has said that it’s a decent show.
Helena
PS-Next time you’re going to bash a show, do your research first. This was hideously innaccurate.
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4:44 pm
That’s right Helena!!! speak the truth to this misinformed asinine male species who obviously is so repugnantly feeble minded that he has no idea what he just wrote. He should actually watch the shows. And he has NO right to be bringing the Golden Girls into this.
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3:35 pm
Of course he shouldn’t have brought The Golden Girls into this. They have nothing to do with Glee! Even if his information about the Girls was accurate, it had no place in this article. This was supposed to be a review of a completely different television show. Instead, it turned into a gay-bashing, completely inaccurate depiction of a show that is quite tame compared to other garbage that is easily accessible to us teenagers today. I have no problem with anyone who doesn’t like Glee. I like it, and I have friends that like it, and that’s all that mattered. But to go so far as to call yourself a journalist while you report false information on a website with a Christian bias is completely unacceptable, and an insult to journalists out there who take their time to do research and let their readers form their own opinions. I am a very devout Catholic, and this Stephenson is in no way preaching God’s word. God wants us all to love each other, and accept our differences. Let Him be the judge when the time comes.
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9:35 pm
Really?
I mean, I’m 15. I definitely don’t agree with everything presented on Glee, such as Will making out with another woman while still married, and teenagers getting pregnant and having sex, but that doesn’t stop me from watching the show. At one point I believe that these characteristics would make the show bad, but it turns out, if your morals and priorities are set like mine are, you should be safe from all the “bad influences” out there. You know, like the ones you’re going to experience when you actually get out into the world!
Also, you mention “Jewish” Rachel and “Gay” Kurt. I’m Hindu. Is there a problem with that? Would you label me as “the Hindu kid” or “the Indian kid” if I was on the show? I sure wouldn’t appreciate that. The show should get off the air? There are people OTHER than Christians in America, who are fine with the themes presented on the show. What makes your opinion any more valid than theirs? We believe that all religions are just different paths to God. Therefore it doesn’t matter if Quinn gets pregnant or if Kurt is gay if they are GOOD PEOPLE, which if I understand correctly is one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity. I definitely wouldn’t have sex before marriage or act like some of the characters do, but that’s my choice, and others are free to make their own. They have to learn sometime. And if they’re influenced by a TV show to make stupid choices that ruin their lives, well then, God help them.
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12:57 am
Dear Mr. Billings,
I’m happy that you are creepy enough to deter any potential mates, otherwise I’d advise you to get neutered.
That being said, I am not going to bother listing the myriad of flaws in your article that so many before me have also explored, since your blatant ignorance and lack of an open mind proves insurpassable. As someone who takes offence to being called a “blogger”, you must therefore note the distinction between the two. Journalism is a craft which involves doing research involving reliable sources, and an objective approach. A blogger is typically a freelance writer whose articles are the product of their own strong opinions. As your article shows no evidence of actual research (such as a proper study of the show itself, or a quick internet browse of background information) and you clearly have let your overwhelmingly bigoted views be dominant, I see no reason why you should credit yourself as anything more than a self-indulgent moron.
As someone who, by your own opinion, has more life experience than everyone who has elected to counter your article, how would you define teenage reality? Though you may not see it because you are an old creep whose life resembles an episode of Happy Days, there are many kids who face adversity on a daily basis. The real-life issues you bring to light in your article, such as drug abuse, suicide and gun violence, are not problems which are developped overnight by watching a television program. These are problems that teenagers turn to when their personal issues, such as sexual orientation, status, race and/or religion, are ignored, misunderstood, or blatantly disregarded by unrealistic morons like yourself. What is so wrong with a one hour per week broadcast that tells teenagers that it is okay to be who you are, that there are healthier outlets for angst than drugs and gun violence, and ultimately, that they are not alone in this world?
After reading both your article and the extensive train of comments accompanying it, I am almost positive that you will either choose to ignore me, claim that I have clearly become brainwashed by a television show, invite my parents to read the article, or throw an asinine, unrelated biblical passage my way. To save you the trouble, I rebute your claim that I allow pop culture to control my opinions by reminding you that your entire world views are based on the pop culture of many milleniums ago. Secondly, my father, who routinely watches Glee with my mother, younger brother and I, is the one who sent me the link to this article expressing what a self-indulgent, bible-thumping prick you are. And lastly, to cite some scripture that has nothing to do with anything:
Romans 8:37
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
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4:14 pm
Not funny.
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1:19 am
OH! I get it, this is a satire site. That would explain why this post sounds SO damn stupid. That’s a pretty funny post, there. One of the best satires I’ve seen in a while.
Because, it HAS to be a satire. Or else… Well, I believe the words “Hack” “Site” and “Death to all involved” would be a little relevant… But since it’s a satire, it passes.
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2:46 pm
Hilarious satire. I actually believed it for a while.
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3:34 am
Really? Do you have anything better to do with your time than to over-analyze a television program? Being honest, it sounds like you seriously need a life…
First off, Glee is a representation of the average high school. You say Glee is just a “fantasyland” compared to “real” high schools, but no… aside from the characters bursting into song, Glee is basically an exact representation of a high school. High school is filled with sex, gays, and drugs and there’s really nothing that can be done about it. The characters in Glee all relate to a teenager on one level or another. If you’re really going to ban your kids from watching Glee, you may as well not let them grow up, and go off to highschool… your kids are going to be exposed to these things, perhaps faster than you’d like them to, but it’s gonna happen. So suck it up, and deal with it. The sex, drugs, and gays do not make Glee a horrible show. Sex, drugs, and gays are a part of reality. Nothing can be done about that, so deal with it. And you’d be completely ridiculous to shelter your kids from reality.
On another note, obviously the characters lip sync… they’re not gonna film the singing live, with all the other dancing and acting involved… they’re lip syncing to their own voice. It’s like when a band makes a music video; they’re not filming live, they’re playing to a recorded version of their song.
You also state “When gay people write tv dramas they often have no clue about what real women are like.” Yeah, hi, just let me say, when grown men criticize a tv show about high school, they often have no clue what real high schools are like.
And just for the record, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. And no, you will not go to Hell, you will not be disrespecting Jesus, and you will not be any less of a human being if you are gay. God created us all equally, and to go onto a religious level, I’m sure He intended for us to treat each other equally.
Now excuse my language, but it’s closed-minded people like you who are making this world such a fucked up place. It’s articles like this and people like you that makes me believe that America is the most fucked up country on the planet. Stop being so closed-minded, and accept reality for what it is. Full of gays, drugs, and sex.
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4:13 pm
I am a credentialed Christian journalist covering contemporary American life. If that is so upsetting for you, then why are you visiting our website? Are you too delicate or weak-willed to comprehend a little faith and morality? It’s pervert liberals like you who are destroying this country with your hippie sixties vision of a socialist America. You are the mortal enemy of decency.
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12:43 am
this bloke has to be kidding himself.
what a tool
what a bullshit website.
Oh no, do not let your childrem watch shiw with alll that homosexuality and drug use. just let it kick them in the ass one day on the street when somebody tries selling the mdope and they have no idea what it is
You are a sad excuse for a human being.
I am not gay y the way, i am just sick of intollerance.
Your so called “God”is supposed to love all right? so why is homosexuality so wrong.
because you have to scare people into your faith, you intimidate them with your “facts”which have no factual backing
Simply
You are a stupid homophobe that has nothing better to di with his life, then try to run others.
Signe
THE INFORMED!
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4:11 pm
Thanks for sharing your third-grade education level with the internet. Hopefully you will learn basic grammar before your next post?
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2:42 pm
Dear Mr. Billings,
So after reading your article, I agreed with a lot of the comments about how un Christ like your words are and how un educated you were about the show. However, what was even more appalling to me were your replies to these comments. You want to talk about the bible, and being biblical…first of all Jesus said the most iimportant command was to LOVE. So even if you disagree with Glee, you should say so in a loving way. Which also means that with that in mind, we should love homosexuals. Not only is your writing mean, but your replies to comments, for example:
“Sara, maybe you’re not old enough to be reading a Christian website offering parents advice if it makes you cry.” -Billings
“You seem to be giving a lot of advice about pregnancy and marriage and boys. Aren’t you a little too young to know about these things? Maybe you shouldn’t be watching all this television unmonitored.” -Billings
“I find the tone of your comment entirely unprofessional and crude…I suggest that maybe you take a deeper look at yourself and ask why you need and depend on a tv show.” -Billings
“Should a grown man really become so obsessed with a tv show about young and effeminate boys? I don’t think it’s appropriate.” -Billings
“Claire, just because you were never popular or athletic enough to become a cheerleader is no reason to slander the entire population.” -Billings
If you want to proclaim God’s word, you can start by showing love to others. Also, if a parent doesn’t let their children watch Glee, but is still a bad parent, what difference does it make. If a teenager watches Glee, it shouldn’t influence them to the point that your suggesting. A parent, if a good parent, will have more influence then any TV show. And maybe you should stop telling people to go read the bible and learn more about God’s word, maybe you should take you should take your own advise.
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:1-5
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1:41 pm
i think jesus would have liked glee. it’s highly amusing, and full of great musical numbers.
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1:42 pm
Im sorry to admit that your article on the show”Glee” is totally out of bounds. The only drug reference I’ve seen was a decongestant, and the show did a wonderful job showing the horrible things that happen to you when you do drugs. It also shows the hardship of a mislead young girl, you had become pregnant before getting married, but it gives a good moral there too. Does she go and get an abortion or get drunk to purposely get rid of the baby like many teens are today? No. She takes good care of her unborn baby. And on the homosexual theme behind the character Kurt, I think the idea behind it wasnt to promote homosexuality in our children, I believe it was meant to show the hardships homosexuals have to face in this world. As a christian, I probably should believe homosexuality is wrong, but compared to all the things so called christians are doing these days, loving someone of the same sex seems harmless. If these people want to be homosexual, who are we to judge them? We are not worthy of judging them. Only god can judge them.
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4:09 pm
I can’t believe that someone with the ridiculous name of “Jazmon” is telling me that my Christian faith is “like totally out of bounds”. Maybe read my article again and click on the links. This is a solidly researched piece of journalism and your immaturity and lack of comprehension is appalling to me. I don’t need little tyrants like you on the internet spreading false information and celebrating a show about sex and perversion.
Homosexuality is simply wrong and you know it.
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8:01 pm
“Homosexuality is simply wrong and you know it.”
No, it is not. And if he did “know it”, as you said, he would not be saying that it’s okay, would he?
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11:21 pm
I think that this review is far more dangerous than the show. The vicious condemnation of homosexuality and the implication that one can simply decide to stop being gay and that gay people remain gay to hurt their families is uninformed. I personally find it very unchristian to spread such hatred. One does not simply “become” gay either, thus the homosexual content in this show is causing no “harm” as you would say, but giving those of us who are, and remain, straight an insight into another person’s life.
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4:06 pm
Since when is honesty, faith and love “vicious” in your opinion? If you fight with all your guts against pedophilia and discrimination, does that make your anger “vicious” or righteous? Please learn a little about the Christian Evangelical agenda before spreading your lies on the internet.
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9:36 pm
…said the man who spreads lies on the internet.
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1:50 pm
This site has got to be a joke! Stephen Billings is not a Christian. At least, he definitely DOES NOT act like one. This site is not real.
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4:04 pm
This hate-filled comment comes from a notorious suppressor of Christians who claims on his own website, “The Bible is a Jewish Conspiracy and Hoax on the Gentiles.” It is pretty sad you hide behind anonymous internet screennames to promote your bias and racism. Be honest about your agenda next time, your little idolator.
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9:54 pm
writer of this article: not a christian.
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1:04 pm
This has to be my favourite comments thread of all time, it’s gratifying to see on a fiercely moral website that decries all that is awesome in the world, that the majority of comments that speak out against your amusing bigotry have been voted up. They also have the unmistakeable coherence and humour of people who have minds of their own. You hate Glee? Really? I find “Saved by the bell” far more offensive, and lazy.
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1:08 pm
And by the way, you’re Conservative? Where I come from all the right wing politicians who are insensibly moral are all flamboyant homosexuals who end up getting caught with a rent boy, do you ever see that in the States? Oh…. Wait…
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7:48 am
First off, the show is amazing and does nothing more than portray what actually goes on in the world. Regardless of what you think or feel about them, they are happening. They are sending positive messages as well, to go for what you want, and to be a strong individual. You have completely looked over the entire point of the show because you are blinded by your hate for people who are gay, or to masculine. You claim to be a Christian and yet you hate, what happened to the love thy neighbor commandment? There is nothing wrong with shows like this in society, there is however, a problem with close minded individuals who believe that god favors some more than others in out society, much like yourself. God created these people, thats right, he created the gays, get over it. The sooner people with such close minded ideals such as yourself fade into obscurity the better off our society will be.
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2:04 pm
At first, I was pleasantly surprised by the Glee review. It started out as an observant, unemotional description with value information for parents. But, it appears, it just took the reviewer some time to begin foaming at the mouth. The reviewer should apologize to all the Kurt Hummels out there — a small subset of good, yet confused adolescent boys who are struggling to accept their identities and find a positive way to fit in. Instead of calling them “the face of our future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist,” you should have just kicked them in the head. The damage would have been less. Shame on you.
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First of all, I would like to say that I am a big fan of Glee AND a devout christian.
I agree with all of those COMMENTS out there supporting the show and letting this author know he is full of it.
Now I understand that the show may be a little too mature for young kids and that’s fine. But for the most part, it deals with real world issues that plague American highschoolers everyday. Examples: Teen Pregnancy, Peer Pressure, Eating Disorders, Homosexuality, Divorce and the Death of Parents. Among many other topics that are very real world.
This show brings these issues home to teens who need advice and teaches them that they can find solace in music (not guns, violence or illegal activities, which is a good thing,
right?).
A word on the music. While the show does contain many hot hits of today’s genre, it also has MANY classic songs from respected and timeless musicals and bands of yesteryear that any parent has listened to when they were teens.
I would urge every Christian parent to keep an open mind about this show. I think it’s a huge step for the ARTS in our schools! Being an artist myself, I think this is the most important message this show has to offer. Arts in our schools are important and students should be involved. I am saddened that people like this author are urging this show to discontinue, thus urging that funding for arts in our schools will all too soon disappear.
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First of all, I would like to say that I am a big fan of Glee AND a devout christian.
I agree with all of those COMMENTS out there supporting the show and letting this author know he is full of it.
Now I understand that the show may be a little too mature for young kids and that’s fine. But for the most part, it deals with real world issues that plague American highschoolers everyday. Examples: Teen Pregnancy, Peer Pressure, Eating Disorders, Homosexuality, Divorce and the Death of Parents. Among many other topics that are very real world.
This show brings these issues home to teens who need advice and teaches them that they can find solace in music (not guns, violence or illegal activities, which is a good thing, right?).
A word on the music. While the show does contain many hot hits of today’s genre, it also has MANY classic songs from respected and timeless musicals and bands of yesteryear that any parent has listened to when they were teens.
I would urge every Christian parent to keep an open mind about this show. I think it’s a huge step for the ARTS in our schools! Being an artist myself, I think this is the most important message this show has to offer. Arts in our schools are important and students should be involved. I am saddened that people like this author are urging this show to discontinue, thus urging that funding for arts in our schools will all too soon disappear.
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2:19 pm
First of all, I would like to say that I am a big fan of Glee AND a devout christian.
I agree with all of those COMMENTS out there supporting the show and letting this author know he is full of it.
Now I understand that the show may be a little too mature for young kids and that’s fine. But for the most part, it deals with real world issues that plague American highschoolers everyday. Examples: Teen Pregnancy, Peer Pressure, Eating Disorders, Homosexuality, Divorce and the Death of Parents. Among many other topics that are very real world.
This show brings these issues home to teens who need advice and teaches them that they can find solace in music (not guns, violence or illegal activities, which is a good thing, right?).
A word on the music. While the show does contain many hot hits of today’s genre, it also has MANY classic songs from respected and timeless musicals and bands of yesteryear that any parent has listened to when they were teens.
I would urge every Christian parent to keep an open mind about this show. I think it’s a huge step for the ARTS in our schools! Being an artist myself, I think this is the most important message this show has to offer. Arts in our schools are important and students should be involved. I am saddened that people like this author are urging this show to discontinue, thus urging that funding for arts in our schools will all too soon disappear
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4:12 am
Wow… I don’t know if I just heard the babbling of a complete moron or if I’m on drugs. I you just don’t like the show then by all means get child blocks or, God forbid, do some actual parenting. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us just because you’re ignorant and just figured out how to use windows.
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1:21 am
To begin, I am a Christian college student majoring in Religious Studies.
While I agree that not all of the themes in this show are suitable for young children, I am horrified at the hate that this author is spewing from his razor of a pen.
Glee is a television program. A series of musicals, if you will. Of course the numbers are choreographed. Yes, the “children” are played by older actors and the plot is not wholly realistic.
Now, here is where Mr. Billings has a double standard.
He expects this fictional television show to be completely realistic when it comes to musical numbers and age limits, but practically has a coronary when the show’s plot includes REAL scenarios such as teen pregnancy and homosexuality. Although I and most people wish that teen pregnancy and drug abuse did not exist, sticking our fingers in our ears and saying “la la la” does not make us more Christian: it makes us ignorant.
And we wonder why television shows sometimes poke fun at Christians. It is due to hate filled, holier-than-thou Christians such as this man. Why reach out to someone when you can accuse him of sin instead? This does not make you seem informed or chaste, Mr. Billings. It shows you for what you truly are, hateful and pathetic.
I shall end with a quote from Gandhi (although I’m sure that quoting a non Christian here will send me straight to hell, Mr. Billings. I mean, he didn’t dress like a normal man should dress. He’s obviously a homosexual! Sorry, I thought it was my turn to say something ridiculous.)
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
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10:47 am
Wow. Someone needs to get over their conservative Christian bullshit and recognize that A. homosexuality IS a big topic among teens today, and as such SHOULD be represented overtly, if not through undertones at least, in modern television. In fact, it would be irresponsible to ignore it, especially in a show centered around music – an area where many gays happen to be in their element. B. If you have issues with abortion and premarital sex, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean television should shy away from those issues. Why do Christians always seem to think their way is the best, and only, way to do things? Newsflash – OTHER RELIGIONS AND OPINIONS EXIST. and C. Yes, there are a lot of musical numbers. the Kids look older than theyre supposed to be. the teachers don’t look hardened by life. and the kids are clearly doing coached and rehearsed musical numbers. umm… IT’S TELEVISION. People watch it to be entertained, not to be shown how things really are. A certain suspension of disbelief is needed for any fictional story on television, get over it. that’s no reason to attack Glee specifically. Point to ANY OTHER show on tv nowadays and i could give you a hundred reasons why it isn’t realistic – that doesnt mean it’s not good tv.
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8:55 pm
whoever hired you as an investigative journalist is either mentally unstable or under the influence of PCP. Oh wait thats probably a lie
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8:37 am
I don’t believe that you feel strongly about this topic or any other topic that you write about. I DO believe that you choose to write about things that you feel will inspire the most replies and you choose the least popular stance you can take in order to ensure that your posts will remain high traffic for a longer period of time. You are probably very lonely and actually see internet acquaintances as real life interactions. I feel very sorry for you. You should get up and go out into the world… perhaps visit a church and learn what Christianity really means. I hope you take this advice to heart.
God Bless.
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10:54 am
April, what an interesting comment. I don’t care about page view, I do care about reaching people with my message however so you are slightly right, though probably not intentionally on your part, in your ham-fisted attempt to bait me.
I must ask you, do you genuinely feel you are applying the values widely accepted today by our Christian leaders to American culture? Your own personal reading of the Bible seems misguided, as if you have wandered off too far into the woods of liberalism and materialism. There really are many great resources for women out there today, such as Concerned Women for America. I highly recommend them for you to begin your education.
God Bless YOU!
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11:14 am
We are all forgetting the most important thing here… Its the Gaga episode tonight!
If you’re a parent and you dont want your kid watching this show THEN DONT LET THEM! But dont try to hide them from the reality of society because they will find eventually. Secondly, to address the “gay” issue… Watching glee will not turn your kid gay. If he’s gay then he’s gay already and loving him means wanting him to lead a happy life. Contrary to what some of you may believe, gay people are generally very happy and although many of you force the association with crazed sex and drugs its as much of a stereotype as black people and Kool-aid. And by the way, what exactly is a “Motivational Children’s Party Entertainer”? Lets not forget all of the loud mouthed homo-phobes who turn up with their pants down in the company of a male prostitute. I think its likely that this is what we have on our hands here with this CLEARLY crazy “journalist”. For your information sir, I am a college educated professional gay man who loves to read books and go home at night to the man I love.
PS I also go to church on Sundays.
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6:43 pm
arent you people supposed to be forgiving? and except people for who they are? who are you to judge you hypocrate isnt god the only one that can judge others? that is how the world is now days people are afraid to be who they really are then it’s people like you who put them down when you really have no right to.
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2:57 pm
The Lord forgives those who confess their sins, who recognize their failings.
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5:00 am
Clearly the person who wrote this maybe has seen clips of the occasional episode.
This article is ridiculously exaggerated. Yes there are some negatives in the show but as a whole it is tame.
The great thing with this show is it does reflect issues that teenagers deal with including teenage Pregnancy (and yes even some unmarried christian teens make a mistake and get pregnant, we are still sinful we should be happy that the character quinn did not just have an abortion which seems to societies way of dealing with this problem), Drugs (which are not looked at in a positive light but condemned),homosexuality, pre-marital sex, marriage, Family e.t.c
“Football Player Finn: An implausible character who goes both ways– glee club geek and handsome football star.”
Finn is straight not bi, never does the show suggest this.
“Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.”
Actually I am pretty sure all the songs are pre-recorded, and the actor is a very talented singer
” Quinn, Slutty Cheerleader: She is most definitely the “Blanche Devereaux” of Glee.”
Believe it or not all people make mistakes, she got drunk, had sex (only once ) and got pregnant, and even the character calls it a mistake
” Football Coach: Is it really necessary to have a man his age in such small shorts so often? Is this supposed to be funny?”
One word for this lol.
” Will Schuster, Head of Glee Club: This effeminate charlatan is a surprising choice for the horndog adulterer. For many adults, he is not convincing in the least. Personally, I do not believe in having homosexual educators (or adult actors, for that matter) in such intimate, private contact with young people. Please, we do not need to see any more half-hearted and frankly laughable sex scenes involving this wet noodle.”
Umm he is not gay. Nor is Matthew Morrison (he is engaged)
“Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly. ”
Oh no not a loving father. I hug my Dad big deal.
I am not saying i would let young children watch this show, but teenagers watching it is fine.
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2:18 pm
the show is billed as an adult comedy. it’s shown during prime time. it’s made by the creator of nip/tuck. what the hell did you expect? FOX has NEVER billed this as a show for children. you “Christians” are so busy judging others that i’m shocked you even have the time to watch/write about Glee!
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2:43 pm
I think enough people, who have replied to this ridiculous piece of writing, have said everything I had to say. However, I have one question: What the hell are “stem-cell party drugs”? I mean, where can I get them? I’ve been looking for a new high and I lost my pinky toe in a FLAMING GAY masturbating accident, so I need to grow a new one!!
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4:07 pm
Uhm….Right… I’ve never actually watched this show, but a lot of my friends do. I’m a Senior in high school, and I like to act. I’m also a Christian guy who is active in my church a lot. First off, when you said that this show has too many musical numbers, well, that’s because it is a musical. It’s bringing the musical of the stage into a Tv environment that most people can access. So you can’t really criticize the believability of their singing, because it is supposed to be a musical, and for musicals, you need to be a good singer. There is a couple terms in acting called Juvenile and Ingenue. They mean that the actor/actress can play a role between the ages of 16-30, much like students in this show. They can play the part, it doesn’t matter if they actually aren’t that age. My last problem was with how you said that “Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.” As I recall, Actor Hugh Jackman, started out on stage doing musicals. You can even find parts of his performance of Chicago on Youtube. I’m pretty sure he’s become successful and he got his training somewhere didn’t he? It may not have been in a high school setting, but saying that the theatrical arts won’t get you anywhere in life is just wrong. I’m not saying that an athletic career won’t get you anywhere, I’m just saying acting and singing can get you there just as well as football or baseball can. Thanks for the time.
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5:13 pm
As a recent graduate from high school, I think you’re missing the point of the show. (And it does seem like you didn’t really watch any of it so much the highlights.) It’s not supposed to be realistic representation of high school, so much how it is perceived by high school students. Life is extremely exaggerated and dramatic from a high schooler’s point of view, much like this show is. Every little thing feels like it’s making a huge impact on your life, and this show does a really good job of adapting this train of thought. It’s also intended to be a musical/show choir kind of thing. Again, it’s making a spectacle of what already seems like the whole world to a small town high school kid.
In your character descriptions, it’s clear you have not really watched the show or did your research. Rachel does not LOOK like she’s thirty, but admittedly she does dress like it. She’s actually being more of a rebel because she’s being conservative in a time where it’s usually negatively perceived by popular social groups. As for Artie, he does sing. Everyone sings. That’s why they were cast. But Artie SPECIFICALLY has had a musical career before the show. And Quinn? She is definitely not the “slutty” cheerleader. “Slut” implies a lot of intercourse with a lot of different partners. Quinn is the confused girl who made a mistake and is now paying the consequences. She’s actually one of the most sincere characters on the show and has easily had the most character growth.
Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, but I suggest a little more research before you completely form one.
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5:19 am
“All other frenzies of the lusts which exceed the laws of nature, and are impious toward both [human] bodies and the sexes, we banish, not only from the threshold but also from all shelter of the Church, for they are not sins so much as monstrosities” –Tertullian, Modesty 4, A.D. 220
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7:57 pm
OK speaking as a high school student, ALL OF THIS STUFF HAPPENS IN SCHOOL!!!! OK yeah maybe some of the songs and choreography is a little advanced, but hey its a show. As for the ‘sexuality’ part of this show. IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY! Besides at least it shows kids the right moves to make when they end up in a bad situation. And frankly, shadowing your kids from this stuff is just gonna make them do it more. LONG LIVE THE GLEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh dear god. If I were you, I would actually try watching something or at least doing some in-depth research before writing such a ridiculously misinformed, closed-minded rant. In fact, maybe you should actually take a look around at the world today. Teenagers are getting pregnant. Being gay isn’t actually a crime! More and more high schools are becoming like this as the world and our cultures develop. This show may use it in an exaggerated form, but its purely for entertainment! This show is funny and uplifting, and there are not “too many musical performances”. The songs they use are great to bring music of the past and present together so that new generations can enjoy them, families can even watch it together and sing along with the show, something which not many shows achieve these days! And as for not believing the cast can sing, maybe you should look on youtube for the live performances and a capella versions of their songs. These people can SING. Maybe you should take a moment to stop judging others and take a look at yourself.
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Still at it, my credentialed investigative reporter???? LMAO.. I giggle every time you write that. You are a GREAT Satirist though.
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Mr Billings,
I am going to attempt to write this in a civilised manner, but your ignorance and your homophobia (amongst many other issues) just disgust me. I read your other article ““Glee” is Back With Secret Anti-American Messages, Chubby Actors” and I guess now it’s a crime to gain weight? Also, you don’t get the point of Glee: It.Is.A.Musical.Comedy.
Would you like me to define that for you?
“A comedic play or movie in which dialogue is interspersed with songs, especially one with a focus on musical numbers and a simple plot.” Could I just stress the SIMPLE PLOT part? There are no secret messages about politics or what not, IF Glee has a secret message, then it’s that being the underdog is difficult, but as long you accept yourself, there shouldn’t be any problems.
I also have to admit that by reading through your responses to comments, that you are painfully naive in the matter of sexuality. As stressed by loads of people, you don’t get turned homosexual, you just are, if you are and really, what people do behind closed doors is none of our business is it? If a heterosexual couple likes being kinky in the bedroom or so, it’s none of our business, but would you begrudge them for that?
And could you quote me, from the bible, a passage where it says something similar to ‘Homosexuals are scum’ or whatever it is you think? I’m going to quote a french sentence to you and I’ll be as kind as to translate it to you, because being as narrow minded as you are, you probably hate the French for some reason. ‘CHACUN A SON GOUT.’ ‘each to his or her own taste’. Everybody is different and has their own sexuality, opinions. Nothing you say can change that.
Another thing you don’t seem to understand is that Glee is ENTERTAINMENT, not REALITY. It is overly exaggerated, otherwise it would not make good TV.
Your sexism is also incredibly idiotic. Women may not be equal to men at the moment, but we sure are getting there! Did you know a woman invented the bulletproof vest, saving countless lives by doing so?
People say we shouldn’t stereotype, but the stereotype for Christians is that they’re narrow minded homophobic bastards, and you know what? I’m starting to think that’s right, although you do have exceptions who thankfully, aren’t as ridiculous as the likes of you.
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5:26 am
Your arrogance is astonishing, particularly coming from someone so young. Humility is a wonderful trait, my friend. I hope you come to realize that one day. Well, God Bless you.
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11:14 am
maybe you should listen to your own advice mister “i’m never wrong”?
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12:00 pm
You said it, Jazze.
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10:22 pm
I cannot believe how uninformed this “writer” is. I just got to the point in the article where it was suggested that the actor who plays Artie (in the wheelchair) was clearly lipsynching and it was suggested that a “talented singer” be hired for the role. Umm, news flash. The guy who plays Artie was in the boy band “Not Like Them”.
Never mind the ignorant opinions pervading the rest of the article, at least get your facts straight.
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12:04 pm
Not to mention that all the actors go in the studio beforehand and RECORD the songs, so yes they are all lip-syncing during filming, but to their own freaking voices!
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5:24 am
You don’t see anything wrong with being so obsessed with a shallow, fake tv show? Do your parents know you suffer from this type of addiction to something that is adult and morally reprehensible?
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12:02 pm
You are an ignorant individual. I can’t even remotely begin to understand how you could be so backwards. Everything you’ve said is ridiculous, exaggerated, and pointless.
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7:46 pm
Firstly, your calling Kurt a terrorist for being gay. Have you noticed the extremity of where your going with that?
Secondly, being gay is not a crime and I personally believe that in a world of over-crowding, and over population, God has made some of his children gay as a way of helping that fact. and Yes, i think God makes people gay. Yes, I’m saying I don’t believe it’s a sin. And I’m straight.I just think some people need to look into themselves further and really take a minute to love all of Gods children.
Ok, also. It’s a show about music, so sorry you dont like the musical numbers.
Lea michele is 24, not 30, and plays a great role and is a talented broadway actress, thus being cast. and teenagers like herself are similar. some beautiful girls lack self confidence just like her so I think it’s a good role model.
plus the arts are known to have a high rate of increasing brain development over time and are a great way of decreasing violence in the community and having a place to express oneself. athletics are good too. but dont diss the arts just for that.
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5:22 am
Homosexuality is not only a grave Biblical sin, but it is also a horrific lifestyle choice that ruins marriages, hurts children and destroys families. Are you really so naive not to see the damage the homosexual has done to the American character? These people have done everything they can to oversexualize our culture and trigger our children into dangerous, risky lifestyles. They are a pox on the greatness that is America.
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But they also make America unique
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9:13 pm
And you sir are a giant boil on the arse of humanity. Now wont you please do the world a great favour and fuck off and die a painful death.
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9:19 pm
Just to clarify that was not aimed at you, dave. You i like.
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6:03 pm
dont get me wrong but aren’t most terrorits religious extreemist.
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9:11 pm
Are you a grownup? If so, do you suffer from a mental illness? The Golden Girls turning men gay? Glee is to musical? Do you really think that this show is some big wolf designed in sheeps clothing ready to pounce on an unsuspecting public and ferociously ravage them with ‘voodoo’ concepts?
Dude if you are writing these kinds of articles……….well, okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It just seems a bit strange and you sound like you suffer from latent homosexuality and are projecting it onto the world about you.
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5:15 am
“With eyes wide open to the mercies of God, I (Paul) beg you, my brothers, as an act of intelligent worship, to give him your bodies, as a living sacrifice, consecrated to him and acceptable by him. Don’t let the world around you squeeze you into its own mould, but let God re-mould your minds from within, so that you may prove in practice that the plan of God for you is good, meets all his demands and moves towards the goal of true maturity.” –Romans 12:1-2.
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6:52 am
I think glee teaches people to accept, to stop bullies (like you) and how to deal with lives problems. And yeah, it can be a bit corny but it’s a musical series, what do
you expect?
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4:17 pm
Mr Billings,
As a parent and a Sunday school teacher, I disagree entirely with your assessment of Glee. I have three teenage children myself. Not all of my children enjoy Glee, naturally, but my youngest daughter and I both enjoy the entertainment and see the show as a huge, positive step forward. She is thirteen going on fourteen.
The programme celebrates diversity. It is true that sports are a useful, admirable past time, but why condemn the arts as meaningless in comparison? Not everyone is good at sport, and therefore it is vital to show children who are not athletically gifted that there is something for them. The show portrays characters who would otherwise be marginalised participating in something which brings them together.
As a Christian, I believe God created all of us for a purpose. Your arguments against Kurt Hummel reflect most of the characters’ opinion of him on the show. He is marginalised and physically and verbally abused, showing clearly that he is not celebrated and certainly is not a cause of locker room orgies (how ridiculous, considering that the most we’ve seen in the locker room scenes are bare, male torsos). His clothing is really not that flamboyant; occasionally his outfits hinge on the crazy, it’s true, but his choices are actually very conservative. He shows very little skin, instead covering himself up with layer upon layer of clothes. Although it’s true his outfits are occasionally tight fitting, his choices reflect youth fashion as it is today.
I understand that your argument is that the show is not suitable for children. Glee’s alternate reality is merely an exaggerated version of the real world. Though we don’t like to think of our children having sex, they may well be doing so, and therefore it is our duty as parents to make them aware of the dangers and protect them from them. Glee has given my daughter and I the opening with which to discuss sex, marriage and families. We talk about Kurt and his dad, for instance, and how important it is to support children who are different (Kurt cannot help it, cannot be cured – as you asserted – and therefore needs to be looked after in order to stop himself from harming himself); the realities of pregnancy and so on. It has given us a useful and constructive time together, and she and I look forward to the next season.
While, indeed, Glee is unsuitable for younger children, I believe that those from the age of eleven and up can benefit from watching the programme and using it as an opening to talk about issues which affect their lives. Glee is all-inclusive. As well as being quality entertainment it can be used as an educative tool to create the accepting, diverse society which Jesus envisaged. The parable of the Good Samaritan shows us that he desired a world in which everyone loved and helped one another. In this article, you subverted His message, and showed hate, not love. As a parent, I would much rather show my children a programme which celebrated everyone for their different qualities than spew a hate filled message.
I look forward to your response.
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5:12 am
Bless you my dear friend for leading children to the light of the Lord. Unfortunately, “diversity” is a keyword for those in the extreme liberal camp who desire to disrupt the true morality of the United States with special homosexual rights and the destruction of our high school athletic programs, which are truly a great social and physical experience for teens today. Homosexuality, whether it’s real or just portrayed by actors on tv is a sin against our God and a genuine health risk for society. It threatens families as well.
I think one of the larger problems I have with Glee is that it presents a false reality, that pushes children away from serious life and career choices and into narcissistic attempts to indulge dead end jobs in the creative fields (extremely few children every become singers or dancers and frankly children would be better off being given realistic expectations out of their life- training in local industries, etc.).
Well, I am glad to have helped you with these important questions and I hope you will take them to heart as you teach your children to avoid the dangers of self indulgence, perversity and the sins of the flesh. As someone who interacts with children on a daily basis, I find it important to stress morality with a firm hand and a righteous spirit.
Stephenson Billings, Investigative Journalist
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8:53 pm
Oh, I just have to point out one flaw in your logic.
” think one of the larger problems I have with Glee is that
it presents a false reality, that pushes children away from
serious life and career choices and into narcissistic attempts
to indulge dead end jobs in the creative fields (extremely few
children every become singers or dancers and frankly children
would be better off being given realistic expectations out of
their life- training in local industries, etc.).”
If everyone took that advice and stopped trying, then guess
what? We would have no music or art, no t.v shows for you
to bash or books written. There would be no entertainment
of any kind except to laugh at people like you that think you
are an authority on everything “Christian”.
And “C.C.”, I have to thank you. Although I am not a religious
person, it was people like you that helped me through my younger
years and pretty much made me the level headed person that I am today.\
Billings, you’re still an idiot.
you who helped me through my
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6:52 pm
Considering your arguments about athletics, I have to ask, why are you engaging in the Art – yes ART – of writing, instead of playing professional football, baseball, golf at the very least?
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3:53 pm
Reading this made me cry.
It repulses and terrifies me that people as self-righteously hateful as you exist.
I can only hope you reap your rewards for such bigotry in the afterlife.
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4:28 pm
Hello all and God bless!
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Sara, maybe you’re not old enough to be reading a Christian website offering parents advice if it makes you cry.
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She cried because of the hatefulness of what was written in this article. No one is too young to speak out against hate.
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Stephen,
Your message is clear. Children should not watch this show due to the homosexual-positive messages it contains and the evolved differences in the way minorities are portrayed from back in the day of your ignorance. You are a sad man to spread your hateful messages against gays, fat chicks and the show in general which is ultimately an uplifting celebration of how all of God’s creatures deserve to sing out loud.
Shame on you!
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2:10 pm
I’m going to watch this every week now!
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8:36 pm
Oh Man. I just gotta say, this is hilarious. I mean, seriously.
I need to state this first, I’m an Agnostic, but this is the type
of person that gives Christians a bad name. I really hope your
influence on America stops at writing this trash online.
Research your facts first, and before you start giving advice to
anyone, MY suggestion to YOU is to go to a psychologist yourself
because you clearly have very large problems that only a professional
can diagnose and treat. Oh yeah, and viable credentials don’t hurt either.
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6:40 pm
Dear Mr. Billings;
You are obviously repressing your own homosexual feelings. Embrace the truth and stop living and spreading these lies.
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8:43 pm
I am in awe with this article. As a young, successful ‘art’ kid who also did sports [guess which got me into college...hint not sports] I am amazed at the blatant hatred of a show he has not obviously watched. Watch the show if you want, don’t if you do not like its message. Yet I don’t see a singing and dancing dramedy creating world chaos anytime soon, but if so, I can not wait for the dystopian future you predict.
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4:54 pm
I’d just like to address the idea subtly expressed in the following line:
“It contains a surprising number of mature scenarios– from pre-marital sex to drug use, from adultery to abortion, from premature ejaculation to explicit homosexual experimentation.”
I think it is important to note, that while these are mature issues (meaning that people need to have mature attitudes about them in order to really look at the issues, something I’m not sure the author exhibits), these are real issues that teenagers in every high school deal with. You might like to think that it only occurs in California or places you don’t think are wholesome, but in truth, they happen everywhere. I went to a high school smack dab in the middle of the Bible-Belt, an 8-square-mile, suburban town containing 32 churches within that small amount of space. It was a predominately white high school that heavily utilized prayer in many of its functions. There was also a strict dress-code. HOWEVER, there was premarital sex, teenage pregnancy, abortions, drug-use (actually, pretty heavy drug use, especially by those kids who went to church every Sunday), and yes, homosexuality. My point in telling you this is that while it might not be appropriate for younger children, these are issues and things that young people deal with. These issues are not new to them. Instead of demonizing a television show for showing things that are apart of teenagers’ lives, why not have sit down and have a frank and mature discussion with your children about the their lives and the problems that they face. These shows don’t advocate anything, they are merely a mirror of what our society puts out there.
As for the homosexuality, you might not like it, but it is there and those people have a right to be homosexual within this country. If you don’t like the laws of this country, then you should find another country.
In regards to the short, short shorts that the couch wears, yes, that is supposed to be funny because those are the shorts that gym teachers wear and they are highly inappropriate in a school setting, which I believe is what the show is trying to point out.
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6:08 pm
Lea Michele is 23, not 30.
You are so pigheaded and closed minded it makes me sick.
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5:56 am
“though I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.”
you’re a fucking homo
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12:51 pm
Dear America,
Stop watching TV. Almost ALL of today’s television shows contain some sort of theme or plot about sex, homosexuality, murder, pregnancy, abortion, etc…all of which are bad things to watch, even if these things really ARE happening in the real world.
Thanks,
~Me~
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3:04 pm
One of the biggest problems with this article is that it takes the assumption that this TV show alone is destroying traditions and moral values. The problem is that the moral values starting slipping long ago. The parents that are being suggested to ‘shield’ their children from this show have their own personal and moral faults that are potentially much more serious and definitely more present in their childrens’ lives. The sheer hypocrisy of trying to write something like this in a “Christian” site is appalling; paranoia of everything ‘sinful’ in the world does no good to anyone and creates delusions of the world that we live in.
1. The homophobia of this article is ridiculous; in the Bible homosexuality isn’t mentioned specifically to be any more grave that lying, stealing, overindulging about anything, thinking ill thoughts of someone else, coveting someone else’s possessions or partner, etc.
2. By trying to put people into labels and other classifications to create boundaries from ourselves only prevents our ability to understand and empathize and ultimately get along with others.
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5:47 pm
I think that the person who wrote this post obviously has no idea what the “real world” is like. I also am quite offended by your obvious hate of homosexuals. I am a Christian, and I was taught growing up to accept all types of people, regardless of their sexual orientation, appearance, whatever. I think that you are obviously not the “Christian” you claim to be, and next time you bash on a show get some facts about it first. There are also a couple of obvious things that you miss, one that is a television show, so we are not going to want to see the rehearsal process. I was in show choir, its a long drawn out process. The show is also not saying you cant make a career out of sports, they are just saying that they can make one in fine arts too. The actress that plays Rachel, who you claim is 30 is actually is 23. So she is not a high school age, oh no. The last thing that I want to say that as an teacher in an elementary classroom I find it awful that you do not support that children have pride in themselves. Heart can do wonders for a child and I have seen it countless times happen in my classroom.
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6:22 pm
I sincerely hope that this article is a joke. But since I don’t believe that it is, I am about to rip the author a new one.
This entire article is misinformed, close-minded, and ludicrous.
First of all, IT IS A TV SHOW! People know that normal high school kids do not randomly break into song. It is entertaining and has brought some great music to a generation that may not be familiar with a lot of it (The Beatles, Journey, etc.)
Second of all, the cast of this show is ridiculously talented. How dare you think that anyone is lip-synching? A number of them have won Tony awards and had incredibly successful careers on Broadway before the show even began.
And finally, you are a disgrace as a Christian for your unaccepting views of homosexuals. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice. It is how someone is born. Do you think gay men and lesbian women choose to be treated as second-class citizens by morons like you? They are God’s children, too, and NO ONE, especially you, has the right to judge or condemn them. Kurt’s struggle on the show is a great example to homosexual teens that they have something valuable to offer the world, and that they are beautiful just as they are. If you were truly a Christian, you would show God’s love to these people.
I do not think my comments are going to make you change your views on anything, but I just couldn’t let this article fall by the wayside without speaking my mind. I hope to never meet you in person, as I’m quite sure my fist would make contact with your face for writing such a discriminatory piece of trash.
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I think this article is complete nonsense. I’m 22 years old and I am absolutely in love with the show, and there is NOTHING horrible about it. Sure, they deal with teen pregnancy, homosexuality and other issues that teens face on a daily basis, but doesn’t this completely contradict your comments that followed saying it’s unrealistic? Furthermore, uh, hello? It’s a TV show! It’s not supposed to be 100% realistic. NONE of the shows you see on television today are 100% realistic…..get over it. It’s television and it’s not about authenticity; it’s about appealing to numerous groups of viewers to skyrocket ratings and have a hit show. I think y’all are thinking way too far into this and, quite frankly, I laughed hysterically while reading this. It’s a complete crock of crap. Plain and simple. Judge me for this, but just remember….do not judge, lest ye be judged. God bless.
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4:29 am
I am sorry Rachel that you do not honestly understand the Bible verse you quoted. By no means does it suggest that Christians are prevented from condemning the sins and crimes of our society. Do you honestly believe that if we encounter child rapists we should not “judge” them? No, rather the verse demands that we keep our own houses in order and that we be prepared to be judged when we speak out. I am not perfect, I know that, but I am not afraid of people assessing my life and work. In fact, that’s why I write my journalism and engage in your sorts of people in discussion. I want you to learn and grow! I also want you to understand the teachings of Jesus Christ so please don’t throw your poorly-understood cut & paste quotes at me in an attempt to silence my free speech and my faith.
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10:30 pm
Stephenson,
There are a lot of, frankly, valid things that a lot of people are saying, but as I’m sure you know, there are also a good number of invalid things being said. I actually agree with you about Glee, I do think that there’s a lot wrong with the show on a moral level. It’s entertaining…but that only means that Fox put a lot of thought into reaching an audience, so I don’t really want to discuss the article, that’s been discussed enough.
I’m just a little taken aback by your reaction to other people’s comments regarding the article. Yes, many people are rude, inflammatory, foul-mouthed, and support something that you do not. I disagree with, in fact, the majority of what people are saying, but my disagreement, and my support in that disagreement by God Himself, gives me no right to belittle them in the way that I have seen them being belittled. I am only writing this comment to remind you that God is love, and love is not attacking people in the way that you have been rebounding to these comments. For some thoughts to guide you, just take a look at 1 John 4:7-21, or the famous 1 Corinthians 13. And of course, Luke 6:27-31.
I only write this because you are a Christian, and because, as brothers in Christ, as He taught us, we need to bring it to each others’ attention when we feel that there is something troubling going on.
May God bless you.
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8:50 am
Interesting article… but PURE TRASH, but what else can you expect from a close minded christian group.
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2:36 pm
I have a hard time taking this article seriously. First off, it is a TV show…. so, sorry if it isn’t EXACTLY what happens in REAL LIFE high school, but that’s why tv shows, movies, books, plays, stories, and IMAGINATION exists. Yeah everyone knows that people don’t break into song in real life, but that’s the point of this TV show, to celebrate the arts. Of all the shows on mainstream television to criticize this one should be the least of your worries. Okay, yes they TALK about sex (you will be surprised how often kids do talk about sex… doesn’t mean they are actually participating in it! People are curious!) but if you actually watch the show they talk about how having sex is the wrong choice. The pregnant cheerleader regrets what she does and DOESN’T get an abortion (of course you don’t bring that up in your article, how she takes responsibility for her choices and takes the adult approach). Also when the two teachers start to date and discuss sex the female teacher abstains, saying she doesn’t want to.
Also, I am so offended by your comments about the arts. Who are you to say that, “[kids] are led to believe we live in a world where anybody and everybody can succeed as long as they have heart. But this is far from true. … But this show is a drug of false expectations that will inevitably harm our children. It convinces impressionable teens to avoid serious career training in favor of having ‘fun’ in the ‘arts’”. This show is about celebrating different people’s talents. The arts are an important part of life, and unfortunately with school budget cuts they are being discontinued because people don’t understand that a child has imagination and creativity that needs to be expressed. Do you have kids? Do they watch Disney movies? Do they read books? Do they color or paint or draw?? Well, according to you, you are poorly influencing your children to enjoy the arts – and if they enjoy the arts maybe they will take an art class, or audition for the school play, then oh no it is all down hill from there… they major in acting in college and God forbid decide they want to be an ACTOR or a ARTIST!!! Oh no, your child is following his/her life long dream and is happy! What are you going to do?? Don’t you think that the creators of Disney and Pixar were maybe creative people? Because they draw, create, use their imagination just like all children should be allowed to do!
You can’t get into college JUST because you play sports, colleges are very exclusive and want educated and well-rounded individuals. That is why GLEE talks about the football players being interested in the arts, because they are talented in both mediums and because they become more interesting to colleges.
Finally, yes there is a homosexual male on this tv show. And I understand your views on homosexuality, but that is life. There are gay people out in the world, and the more you shun your children from it the more interested they will be in it. It is a simple law, you don’t allow your child to have something, they want it even more. You say ‘its time for bed no more reading’ they hide under their covers with a flashlight. You say ‘homosexuality is satanic and a sin, don’t associate with those people’ the more interested children are. That’s just the way kids work. But instead of saying hateful things to fellow human beings (even though you don’t agree with their life choices) you can sit down with your children and have an open discussion about it. You can have an open discussion about sex to. They less ignorant your children are, the more likely they will make the right choices. That’s what I have to say, I am interested in what others think. Thank you for your time.
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6:34 pm
Hi Heather, when you’re a bit older you may understand that getting all excited and devoting much of your high school time to the arts really contributes nothing to you later in life. Particularly in this recession, we need Americans who roll up their sleeves and commit to hard work using their education and physical skills. We need men on our farms and factory floors, businessmen and doctors, engineers and leaders. We don’t need a bunch of boys in tuu-tuus dancing around in their basements. Sorry, it’s just the truth.
“He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases fantasies lacks judgment.” –Proverbs 12:11.
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6:41 pm
“We need men on our farms and factory floors, businessmen and doctors, engineers and leaders.”
Well you see, this is the 21st Century, so women can also do those things.
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6:47 pm
Sure, but mostly not as well as men. It is like letting the charity kid throw a pitch in the major leagues.
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7:13 pm
Oh fuck off, Adam.
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3:44 pm
ignore claire, she’s a lesbian. i didn’t have time to read this article, but does it mention homo activity among the girls? high school girls having homo sex is something i find especially shocking. i have investigated this for some time now, even made myself watch several movies on the subject. the problem seems especially rampant among cheerleaders, as far as i can tell.
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6:44 pm
//Hi Heather, when you’re a bit older you may understand that getting all excited and devoting much of your high school time to the arts really contributes nothing to you later in life.//
So what you’re saying is, you want everything to be like it was a hundred years ago or more, right? You hate everything new, you hate anything expressive, you think the only entertainment should be plowing and milking, and you think everyone should live their life like it was an episode of “Leave it to Beaver”, only without anything remotely funny going on, right?
Seriously, why not just go Amish? You’ll be happier since you’ll be away from everything and we’ll be happy that we don’t have to deal with an incredibly racist, sexiest, homophobic, hateful, retarded zealot.
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6:08 pm
Is this a joke?
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6:09 pm
Stephenson,
Your article is not only woefully misinformed, it also proves you to be a bigot while masking yourself behind the Christian faith. This is shameful, and you give Christians a bad name.
Had you given Glee more of a chance beyond watching a few episodes, you would see a show with enormous heart. The kids portrayed in this show mirror the challenges of every day high school life. There are kids out there who are pressured into sports by their families, and often find more solace and fulfillment in music than they could’ve ever imagined. You speak about how sports keep kids fit, attractive, and kids get full rides to school as a benefit… what a crock. Do you have any idea how small the number of atheletes is who get a full ride for college atheletics, let alone a scholarship of any kind? And a “minor high school music group” does not necessarily give children delusions of grandeur, it teaches nearly the same lesson that atheletics does- teamwork, and the benefit of working toward a goal. There are numerous studies that music benefits the IQ… can we say the same for sports? Not to bash sports by any means, but your pigheaded, uneducated dismissal of music is laughable. In fact, your entire article is. As for your opinion about homosexuality, I do understand that it conflicts with the ideals of Christian faith, but are not all people children of God? They are PEOPLE, not things to deride, mock and harass. You should take a more Christian attitude and be loving. As for there being too much music in the program… IT’S A MUSICAL. And also, there aren’t any people playing the teens who are 30. I think that someone who claims to be a journalist, blogger, whatever, should do their research. This show is honest. Kids have sex in high school… get over it. But didn’t she make the right choice and choose to have her baby and give it to someone who would take better care of it than she can?
Try some tolerance, Stephenson, because your hatefulness spewing all over the internet doesn’t suit you well.
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6:29 pm
Excuse me but do you truly speak for all Christians when you say you support Glee? What about the Parents Television Council? Funny enough, a while after this article came out there was a huge controversy about Glee in the conservative media. I guess you missed that? Bill O’Reilly, Andrew Breitbart, Newsbusters, John Nolte at Big Hollywood, etc. etc came out in a full campaign against Glee. So are you saying everyone else is wrong EXCEPT YOU? Well, miss self righteous I’m glad the rest of Christian America would like to hear you thoughts.
So yes, thank you I was ahead of the curve on the Glee issue but don’t single me out and say I don’t represent where solid Christian values are in America today. You are so clueless and meanspirited while disregarding your Biblical obligations to live a clean and decent life. You should really take a harder look at yourself and your values and ask if you’re really up to the task of being a patriotic Christian in America today.
‘Glee’ Sucker Punches Republican Fans
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/04/14/glee-sucker-punches-republican-fans/
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6:38 pm
And you say you represent all of the Christian community? Aren’t half the people who call bullshit on everything you say Christians?
Fuck it, you don’t know anything about life, do you? You’re just an ignorant little piece of shit who got a hold of a computer and started typing out his conspiracy theory bullshit because ‘no one would listen to the crazy man who wears a tin foil hat’ and deep throats kiddies every summer.
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11:50 pm
1. Please remember that people, even if they represent a Christian group, are not always right; right now being Christian is being tied to being a conservative Republican and Christianity is not standing alone as a faith. The Bible addresses and is open to those of all walks of life, and it sets its own stances on issues: it does not need Bill O’Reilly or anyone else representing it.
2.I get the feeling that we’re living off the traditions and values of generations past. There isn’t a really significant, prevalent Christianity-influenced feel in my America, which is a quite conservative and well-to-do suburb in Texas. I would say that day to day life working and communicating with my peers is more secular; there is some antagonism towards the ‘Christians’ who try to shove their version of Christianity (funny that there are so many) on everyone (yet they forget only God can change men’s hearts). I can say with certainty that some of my peers get the impression that being Christian means being ignorant, uncaring, and backwards. I wish that none of us would give that impression, but it exists.
3. It is difficult to take someone seriously when he uses such divisive and extreme language; I believe that there are many Christians who are furious with Glee and many who take it as seriously as they would take any other TV show they watch for leisure (honestly, everything is scripted, even news on both sides are biased to always make some point which is not always backed up by facts). God blessed human beings with a free will and an intelligent brain so that each person could make his or her own decisions and judgments.
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12:10 am
Christianity, sir, is a way of life, not a political party. I have never let any political or news related figure influence my beliefs, nor should anyone. And isn’t Bill O’Reilly, much like you, known for his extremist, right-wing views? I find it sort of funny that you are insecure enough about your poorly written article, and it is, by the way, you’ve had hundreds of people correcting your incredibly uninformed piece of literature… good job, that you feel the need to ignorantly defend yourself. You’ve defended yourself against getting facts wrong several times now… don’t legitimate journalists do the research so that they DON’T get facts wrong? Perhaps you were in a hurry, forgive me. The Comedian is right. You sir, do not represent Christians. Many of us have spoken against you and your hate, and many of us know better than to judge as you do. Didn’t Jesus state, “He who is without sin, cast the first stone,”? You are far from sinless, Stephenson.
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11:44 am
Not to mention that stoning in Biblical times was a way to kill someone. The person guilty of a crime would stand at the edge of a cliff or some other area that would result in a fall, and the first stone caster was one of the witnesses who testified and convicted the guilty person of his crime; the first person to cast a stone would often end up killing that person by sending him over the edge and plunging to his death.
Please don’t criticize or condemn other human beings unless you understand the implications of what you are doing.
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4:11 pm
Jocelyn.
Mr. Billings is a man & therefore you should defer to him & learn from him. it is immodest, even indecent, for a woman to be posting ‘opinions’ on a web site. did you clear this with your husband or father? or are you yet another of these militant ‘bi-coastal’ lesbians who listen to joni mitchell albums and attend college? young lady, get thee to thy kitchen and learn your womanly duties. ‘Glee’ is practically a synonym for ‘Gay’ – but that would have been too blatant, i guess. i pray you lean wisdom; read your bible.
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1:30 pm
This site is for closed minded morons. See you all in hell.
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2:16 pm
Dear Stephenson Billings, YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT! You’re saying teens shouldn’t watch this show becasue of the Kurt, the sex talking, drama, and drugs. I am a senior in high school and this happens everyday all the time. If you think by parents not letting thier teens watch this will stop them hearing and seeing this you are DEAD WWRONG! This is what we talk about this is what happens in schools today. The times have changed Stephenson we aren’t living back in the 40′s its 2010 topics that weren’t talked about then are talked about now. This whole show is lip-singing its prerecorded music thats how they make these shows. These actors can sing thats why they were picked. Now about the charater overview how dare you say things like Gay Kurt and Slutty Quinn. You are a HORRIBLE christian. I will agree the charaters sometimes are a little over the top but a lot of kids are these days. Kurt dress like he ddoes because this show is promoting be who you are not what other people want you to be. This is the same thing Lady Gaga says to her Little Monsters. You want everyone to be the same person and we aren’t. I am just waiting for you to tell parents to pull their kids out of school. To the parents who agree with him you know what this tells me. It tells me that you don’t trust your kids and you are gaurding them making them who YOU want them to be and not letting them be who THEY want to be. Have a little more faith and trust in your kids to make the right desions because if you can’t let them watch a show like glee then you might as well pull them out of school and put them in daycare and treat them like babies because rather it be a tv show or in school they WILL hear and see these things.
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3:19 pm
Is this real?! I can’t believe I spent time reading this, nor the Golden Girls article for that matter. Its people like the author that keep this world completely ignorant, kids killing themselves because they are unhappy with who they are because idiots like this stepheson character are telling them that its wrong. Yes, a 15 year old male should know about sex and marriage. Its not 1935 anymore. Shit happens. Kids have sex. I find it quite odd that out of all the gay bashing and extreme trash talking this author has done that he failed to mention to Quinn did not choose abortion, instead she chose to birth the child herself. Where’s the praise for that? He failed to also note that this show is getting kids involved in the arts across the country. A very dear friend of mine is actually in the cast of the show and she is not 30, nor does she appear to be. She is in fact 22. Until you watch a whole season and know the effects that its had on the nation, shut your mouth and learn to change with times. You can disagree with everything it says because of your narrow-minded and orthodox views. And if you do, don’t watch the show. It breaks my hear to see that people are so ignorant to others feelings and situations. Like someone earlier said, walk a mile in a proud gay man or lesbian woman’s shoes; or even a pregnant teen. You wouldn’t be able to handle the ridicule we have endured. This show is giving an outlet to those kids who have always been the outcasts for those reasons a reason to be proud of who they are and embrace themselves. Grow up, in spite of your old age, and leave well alone.
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10:55 pm
This whole site is satirical. It’s a real shame since, according to the comments, many believe it’s honest Christian opinion. I believe this site intentionally hides it’s satire to fulfill it true agenda, which is to make Christians look like idiots. This is an excellent example of why we should always check sources and credentials of what and who we read.
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7:42 pm
If people mistake this site for a real Christian site, there’s a reason…
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3:32 pm
“Though I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.”
Careful, Stephenson. You wouldn’t want anyone to think that you have a bit of a thing for high school football players, would you? Your enthusiasm for writing these articles is tragic. Also, please endeavor to have sense enough to separate an actor from the characters that they play. You made the same tremendously idiotic mistake with Bill Murray. These people are not their characters! When you write about cheerleading coach Sue’s acting being pretentious, I hope you understand that the character is acting that way because the actress who plays her (who is not her character) can read a script. THE CHARACTER IS WRITTEN THAT WAY, YOU INCREDIBLE BUFFOON! I can’t believe you’re telling “Sue the cheerleading coach” to tone it down! You’re attempting to have a conversation with a FICTIONAL CHARACTER FROM A STORY! Ahem! Jesus Christ! *Cough Cough*
I understand how easy that must be for you–you, and the unfortunate amount of religious nut jobs still left in the world keeping us dumb and keeping us down. Religion is nothing more than the perpetuity of ignorance, separation, violence, and a superfluously warped perception of reality, dry humping a silly book translated into a million different languages for a million different religions all fighting each other. Your bastard savior is nothing more than a character in a story that you talk to with no response, much like your attempted dialogue in this article with fictional characters like Sue the cheerleading coach. She can’t hear you because she doesn’t exist. Except on paper, anyway, which is good enough for you and your dangerously psychotic congregation members rife with pedophile leaders.
Please reconsider your life the next time you beg for forgiveness for rubbing one out to Football Player Finn’s “deft moves on the football field.”
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3:43 pm
Upon further research, I realize that this is all a joke. Aren’t I the one with egg on my face?? Good show, Stephenson!
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4:22 pm
I’ve come to the same conclusion, Joel, but I wonder how many “true believers” don’t realize this.
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4:52 pm
You’re right. I guess the intentions are irrelevant if the effect is the same.
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1:10 am
This article, website and entire thought process is so off-based that you cannot help but realize the author is delusional. Personally, I think the only value here is humor. All of this is invalidated by the constant fear mongering and lunacy. Ps… do any of the readers actually think Bill Murray is the antichrist as he is portrayed in another article on the website?
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12:12 pm
Two things strike me in this article. Fisrt, the idea that this show is “unchristian” may very well be true. Nevertheless, censorship, as in pulling this off the air all together because of the objections of one group of people, is decidely un-American and, in fact, unconstitutional. Freedom of speech and expression is right we have. Period. Secondly, as a person who is expecting children, no, of course they will not watch this TV show. My children will not watch TV at all. Values can come from every corner of the country. As an atheist, I still will never let my children watch these programs. But pulling them off the air is reactionary, intoleramt, and, frankly, illegal. If you don’t want your kids watching this stuff, make them go outstide and play baseball, for crying out loud.
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12:00 am
How can you call yourself an investigative journalist if you dont even fact check? I know how to do lots of things (like write), but im not about to call myself a journalist. You clearly misrepresent yourself- in your title and obviously closeted opinions. Please do journalists (and other well-reasoned adults) a favor and stop writing. Perhaps photography could be a good hobby for you?
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10:04 am
OMGosh! This writer is ridiculous. And furthermore – knows WAY too much gay lexicon that I am starting to wonder if he is a self-hater. People, please be better informed and stop listening to this idiot. And what’s with the constant Golden Girls references….I smell someone in the closet!!!
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10:41 am
this is absolutely ridiculous. this is exactly what is wrong with American culture.
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10:47 am
I’m sorry, is this article actually trying to say that Glee has “too many musical numbers” with over exaggerated facial expressions? Isn’t that the point? It’s about show choir! This article is absolutely ridiculous. This is exactly what is wrong with American culture today. Stop trying to put a fear into parents’ minds that has no reason to be there! I cannot believe how ignorant and close-minded people can be. This is just embarrassing.
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10:52 am
Hi Melinda, I didn’t find your comment very helpful or nice. If you’d like to have a constructive conversation, I suggest you seriously calm down.
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8:11 pm
This article is an example of exactly why people who are not Christian think we are crazy, hypocritical, and judgmental, thus PREVENTING them from even considering accepting Christ. The Bible says that although you may not agree with someone to LOVE them REGARDLESS, not to criticize them and tell them they are hopeless and are going to hell. I suggest you visit this Web site, http://www.lifechurch.tv/watch/toxic, and watch the message called Toxic Religion.
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6:02 pm
HOW COULD YOU WRITE SOMETHING SO STUPID AND JUDGEMENTAL??
You are probably the worst person ive ever had the displeasure of reading.
You are racist, sexist, masochonistic, discriminating, and HOMOPHOBIC!
I cant believe you would have the audacity to even publish something as vulgar as this load of B/S.
Have you even watched the show? NO? really? i would have never guessed.
You are a homophobic jerk who should do there research.
being gay IS NOT A CHOICE!! Its part of a persons DNA in case you havnt been taught 10th grade biology.
This show is a wonderful way to introduce kids to old songs from broadway and rock.
Have you even taken the time to realize that this show is a MUSICAL!!!! OF COURSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE MUSICAL NUMBERS!!!!
I might be 15 but i have scene a lot in my life and this show has kids all over the world excepting people for who they are.
And what was that crap about “I love my family and Jesus so ill stop making out with other guys in the bathroom”???
JUST BECAUSE YOUR GAY DOESNT MEAN YOUR ATTRACTED TO EVERY GUY YOU SEE!!!!!
my best friend is gay just so you know and hes the best person ive ever met and i wouldnt change him or stop being his friend for anything, especially something as stupid as his sexuality.
I really hate how you talk about the producure being gay and not being able to tell life from a womens point of view.
In case you havnt been around anyone gay, they can relate to BOTH GENDERS!
your obviously to stuborn and rude for your own good. If i had children i would force them to watch this show because it has good morals and valuable lessons.
Yes, Quinn (“slutty cheerleader”) got pregnant but that doesnt make her a slut, her parents might be Christian but they were wrong to kick her out. She made a mistake and hurt alot of people but it
worked out in the end and her CHRISTIAN FATHER was CHEATING ON HIS WIFE!!!
I might be Christian, but i dont believe that God is going to hate you because of your sexual preference and alot of teenagers my age feel the same way.
If God made you that way he should love you no matter what. He’s the one who’s in charge right? so why doesnt he stop making people homosexual or bisexual?? hmm??? answer that!
I really hate how you pick this show apart but all your facts are completely wrong!
Mercedes is the best female singer there, i love her attitude. Shes a great friend and has sass to back it up.
Quinn is not a slut, shes mean, but not a slut.
Finn, well i hate Finn, but your problem with him should be nonexestent seeings as how he doesnt go against anything you do.
Kurt might have designer clothes, but he also has a big heart. yes, hes gay, but he can sing and he has his fantastic FAGHAG to back him up! He might be, for lack of a better word, B*tchy sometimes
but at least he excepts people for who they are, unlike you.
Burt (Kurts father) is THE BEST DAD EVER. He excepts his son because its not a crime to be gay and kurt shouldnt be punished for it.
I bet your one of those people who go around calling every man with more class than you a “f*g”, but you know what? You’ll never have any guy friends because everyone ive met has more couth and
respect than you.
i hope your happy with your crazy ways you ignorate ass.
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2:55 am
THIS 15 YEAR OLD KICKS SOME SERIOUS ASS! YOU ARE FREAKING INCREDIBLE BRIT! I LOVE YOU! SMART AND AMAZING! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
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9:16 am
Have you ever wondered what your life would have been like if you hadn’t been dropped on your head as a child? If this is a spoof, then… Bravo! Quite hilarious. You really nailed those crazy, homophobic, conspiracy-theory-loving Christian nut-jobs. If this is NOT a spoof, then…Wow! I never realized a person could be that stupid and still be able to dress themselves and work a computer. Good job at overcoming your mental handicap.
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2:03 am
You, sir, are everything that is wrong with civilization. It’s people like you that make me ashamed to be Christian.
If I met you in real life, I would punch you in the face.
And by the way, I ask for you to genuinely tell me what is wrong with homosexuals without quoting the bible (As someone already asked, but you seemed to ‘overlook’ it.) How are they bad in any way? This results in an increase in adoption, which is absolutely amazing. Call me crazy but I don’t see anything wrong with them.
And don’t you dare avoid this question through a bible quote or diss towards my grammar.
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2:41 am
Oh my goodness, I missed the bit where you said children should know about breastfeeding. Whaaaat? My three children have known about breastfeeding since birth, what with having been BREASTFED! What on earth can be wrong with a mother feeding her child? What about the paintings of the Madonna and Child with your saviour being breastfed?
For goodness sake, why am I even engaging with you and giving you the impression that what you say matters? I hope you don’t have any influnce over any young people. What a terrible inheritance of hatred and misinformation to pass down.
And you would doubltess feel that as I am an atheist I am raiding my children without any ‘values’. In fact, I have very strong morals. I am demonstrating living in a way that foes as little harm to the planet as possible, that does not involve killing animals, that does not judge people based on lables or ethnicity
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2:55 am
I got cut off whilst posting my last comment and don’t have time to finish it now. I’m just going to recommend that you read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
And get some psychiatric help.
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9:15 am
Dawkins is a fraud who writes for people with a 5th grade reading comprehension level. A waste of time.
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7:49 pm
But he always says such nice things about you.
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9:00 am
What’s wrong here is the assumption by the religious that they are on the ONLY pathway to god, and everything they deem a challenge to that belief is evil. This tenet applies to all zealots, not just christian zealots.
However, christian zealots have an added advantage to engage in this kind of thinking. Their religion allows, actually promotes taking no responsibility for personal or collective “sins”. They believe that they have been absolved of all past, present and future “sin”. This allows them to spout hateful speech and action, as is evident with the Westboro Baptist Church and in the recent dust up over Dr. Laura Schlesinger’s unacceptable speech broadcast nationwide on her radio show. And equally evident in this hysterical diatribe about television shows turning entire generations of men “gay”.
Nothing can “turn you gay”. Because you are BORN that way. There is no conscious decision to “be gay”. Gay people come to the realisation that they are gay, and hopefully the acceptance and embrace of their sexuality. No person, nor group, nor television show does that “to them”.
Finally, I believe rational people cannot argue away the hate and evil that christian zealots engage in. Just look at the links on this website:
Is my husband GAY?,
Why do rabbits RAPE cats?,
Harry Potter wears shocking black hotpants, sin skinsuit to premiere,
Children now using vegetables to MASTURBATE! New vegetable delight trend in high schools,
and my all time faves –
How to spot a masturbator and
Vajazzling the newest threat to your college son.
Tolerance and acceptance are not welcome in the world of christian zealots, and is truly not evident here – just good old evil ignorance, plain and simple
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9:18 am
There is but one God. Worship of others is a sin.
As for personal responsibility, you are so far off base it’s not even funny. Christianity, particularly Evangelical Christianity, is all about personal responsibility and a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The pagan polytheistic nonsense you’re trying to push here is all about worshipping trees in the forest and your clay gods in he desert. It’s is a throwback to a hedonistic and immature time in human history and shows how little you understand about modern morality and the challenges our society faces.
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1:25 pm
Sex is great, especailly dirty sex!
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3:44 pm
Stephenson Billings? Sir, you are an idiot.
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6:54 pm
As a student of mathematics and statistics, there were a few problems I have with this article from a purely intellectual standpoint (although I find many more I can find wrong from a emotional and social standpoint).
- “The link between watching the Girls and increased risks of homosexual behavior was made abundantly meaningful.”
First of all, there is no “link,” there is a correlation and any person who has taken any statistics (or logic classes) will tell you that you cannot say one causes the other. To go as far as saying watching Golden Girls will turn you gay is false. Does being gay put you at risk of watching Golden Girls?
- “Ultimately, these ad hoc songfests give children a very false impression about talent and success.”
Does watching an NBA Basketball game give children a very false impression about talent and success? I would actually agree (to some extent) that some children will watch the show and think they can do it, but I would argue that more children watch NFL games and think the same thing. Really this is a moot point that doesn’t deserve to be argued.
- “Some people are born with the vocal chords for music, others have the bodies for football and others have the brains for math”
It is Vocal Cords not Chords… and in complete reality, they’re technically called Vocal Folds.
- “The number of athletes who have gone on to full scholarships at the very best universities in this country are legion and legendary. Nothing even close could be said of a minor high school singing club.”
Coming from a “minor high school singing club” myself, I have issue with you saying that it cannot translate to scholarships and great education. I was initially even a D2 Scholarship Athlete in Track and Field but found that I could get more scholarships being in the musicals. The total Fine Arts Scholarships that I have received more than double any that I would have received through Track and Field. Is that the case for everyone. No, but thanks to my “minor high school singing club” I had a better college experience.
There are more to this argument I can add, but it would take me another hour or two. Just know that you make a lousy investigative writer and I suggest you find a better way to spend your time.
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9:23 am
Ben, from a moral and journalistic standpoint, let me just say you are utterly mislead. I am sorry that you had such trouble understanding my writing, but mathematics and your atheistic immoral and pro-science approach is not going to help you out. What I’m talking about here is having LOVE and PASSION for something far greater than your own narcissism. You need to be willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good, to have faith in things which you cannot understand. I pray some day you accept Him into your heart.
“The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases, his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning.” –Lamentations 3:22-23.
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12:36 am
I see you have not corrected your spelling mistake, Mr. Billings.
I understand your journalism just fine, and think if you were a journalist, you would want to uphold the English language with LOVE and PASSION.
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10:51 pm
You are a nutjob! You have a MASSIVE fascination with gay men and gay youth, also, you are a children’s entertainer?
You are probably a child mollester who is hiding their sickness by projecting it onto someone else!
You are so un-Godly it kills me!
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12:01 am
I find this article completely ridiculous and slightly offensive. First off, thank you kindly for bashing the arts and saying they will get you no where in life. Because, you know, sports will SO get you a steady, reliable career. (Please, note the sarcasm). I am heavily involved in theater, and I find it extremely offensive that you part arts in quotations as if it is some made up thing that gets you no where. I will venture to say that there are a lot less people involved in professional sports than there are actors, actresses, artists, sculptures, and musicians. Many, many scholarships are out there for arts programs that can lead to college degrees and the sort. Please, review your information.
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9:26 am
Athletics helps socialize children and also get them some much needed exercise when their bodies are changing and developing. Do you realize we have an epidemic of obesity and other health issues facing people today? I believe sports are a key and should be a vibrant part of any high school experience. I do not have a problem with the arts, but I do have a problem with schools, advertisers and tv shows tricking kids into thinking they’re going to make something of themselves through their childish antics, rewarding them for mediocre talents and encouraging them into a lifestyle which so often leads to drugs and sex experimentation.
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2:59 am
Yes. Yes. That’s totally true. Because, you know, heaven forbid we should become more cultured. Heaven forbid we should not spend our Sunday’s and Monday’s reading or going to see plays rather than watch football. I’m sorry, but last time I checked, I have had a wonderful high school experience, no sports involved. And I have made many, many friends through theater. Why in the world would you say that only sports allows you to socialize? Oh and I guess dance isn’t a way to keep fit? I would like to say that all of my artsy friends are extremely fit, and hardly any of us are involved in sports. Gosh. You are making me so angry. Have you ever taken a theater or other art class? It appears not. You honestly need to do some research and realize that art is important in children’s lives, unless you want yours to grow up to be mindless, caring only about sports and nothing else. Guess what? If the arts hadn’t been around, History and Language Arts would be utterly different, since you seem to value education. We wouldn’t be reading Shakespeare if it weren’t for the arts. Half of the English language wouldn’t exist, if it weren’t for the arts. There would be no Christian bands if it weren’t for the arts. No Christian plays or movies if it weren’t for the arts. Praise music? Wouldn’t exist. Maybe I’m going out on a limb here, but I’d say that the arts are pretty key to education and the church experience. By the way, if you hadn’t noticed their grueling dances, though I’m sure you have, I’d say they’re burning a few calories. Running around on a field or court isn’t the only way to keep fit. And yes, I realize that their is a huge obesity problem. I wasn’t born yesterday. But guess what? I’d blame that more on the food we eat rather than the arts
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12:16 am
Accidentally hit enter, please allow me to continue. I suppose you also believe kids shouldn’t watch ‘High School Musical’? Because that’s no where near what real high school is like. Oh and don’t forget their over-dramatic song and dance numbers that need years of ‘gut-wrenching practice’ to master. Nope, keep the kids away from that evil. Oh and, I guess you think kids shouldn’t watch ‘The Sound of Music’, either. Who honestly breaks into dance? No, let’s entertain our children with hard-hitting, factual shows that are realistic. Honestly. The show isn’t meant to bring greater good to the world, it’s meant to entertain. So what if it’s cheesy? The world is filled with cheesy things. I doubt they will corrupt children’s minds. And I’m still in high school so I know for a fact that what goes on there is ten times worse than what Glee shows. There is hardly any cursing on the show, though you seem to think that every fifth word is a curse word. It isn’t graphic for the most part, and when have they really shown drug use? Really? And I don’t ever recall an episode in which we saw ‘shirtless men lathering soap on themselves’. This article is better suited for Degrassi, not Glee. I don’t even want to touch on your whole argument over the homosexual aspect. But guess what? Kids will have to deal with it anyway. I am a Christian. I am liberal. I suppose they contradict. My method of thinking? God taught us to love EVERYONE. Not ‘only love those who you agree with and are comfortable around’. I truly believe that homosexuality is something you are born with, such as bi-polar disorder or autism. You can’t just ‘cure’ someone of it. Because honestly, who would chose hate and prejudice and being the loner for themselves? You can’t honestly tell me that someone would pick a lifestyle for themselves that they know would lead to hate and being the outcast. Many homosexuals commit suicide because they feel alone and like no one cares about them. No one would chose that for themselves. I think that if my theory is true, that God is trying to teach us a lesson in love. Just think about it. So please, get your facts down before you completely bash on something. It can be found as both offensive and horribly misinformed.
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I’m rather upset I stumbled on this article, because now my night is completely ruined. Your excessive use of unnecessary underlines and bolds and colors gave me a headache – and you yell at others here for being loud and shouty about their opinions!
I just wanted to point out that Lea Michele will be 24 this August and that she is not 30. I’m sure in the mess of comments someone told you that, but shoddy journalism is something that should never go unpunished, especially when you’re making such wild claims. Also – your blatant homophobia aside – I didn’t realize Christ taught you to be ableist, as your comments about Artie suggest. Did they teach you to address people as “Wheelchair So-and-so” in Sunday school? Because that’s certainly not what they taught me.
But my favorite part by far was your comment about Finn. To quote you verbatim, “I do enjoy his deft moves on the football field.” I was especially interested to find that written here, so soon after reading your hysterical, “spiritually guided” article “Is My Husband GAY?” Here, you equate Glee to softcore porn – in your other article, you write about porn, “If you have gone down this road and find that your man perks up at the sight of the men in these sorts of videos, you should be concerned.” Apparently you lack consistency as well as the ability to research the topics of your articles. Furthermore, the vehemency with which you wrote this piece alerted me to a point made by another article you actually linked to: “A consistent overreaction to anything concerning gay men — extreme homophobic behavior. If your husband turns almost militantly angry when confronted by someone who is gay, it may indicate that your husband is gay. This doesn’t make sense at first, but take a minute and think about it… People often lash out at those who embody traits they do not like about themselves. They are in fact empathizing with that person, but it doesn’t come across that way.” (http://www.ismyspousegay.com/11-signs.asp) Sir, if you are going to call yourself both a “Christian” and a “journalist” I wish you would not disgrace either name with your personal delusions.
Which is not to say that being gay is a disgrace. In fact, the Church has concluded that it is not a sin to BE homosexual – that is how some people are born, and since all people are made in the image of God, it cannot be wrong. The sin, according to the Church, is PRACTICING homosexuality. It seems you conflate the two issues, stereotype certain types of people, and dedicate your life to grinding them into the dirt. Thank goodness you believe Jesus died for your sins, because you’re gonna need all the forgiveness you can get.
And in the event that you respond with a “faith-based” argument, I do not affiliate with any organized religion whatsoever. It exists as a means for little people to keep others down so that they can pretend to be big, and that makes me sad.
But Glee makes me happy and it’s coming back soon, so hey, it evens out for now.
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9:31 am
Andrea, hopefully your pain will some day gave way to acceptance and love. There are a lot of things here that should open your eyes up to the danger of the tv nonsense you consume and support with your ad dollars. Do you really want to be responsible for distributing more of this garbage to unsuspecting kids? As for my editing style, please don’t be so arrogant. It is symbolic of the reason so many men have trouble respecting bossy women.
I enjoy male sports and am myself a former high school football athlete. For you to suggest a homosexual undertone here is not only insulting, but wildly immature. Again your arrogance would be laughable were it not so annoying.
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2:30 pm
so its arrogant for people to assume that youre gay from your admiring comment concerning cory montieth but its NOT arrogant for you to claim that the entire show is homosexual because boys do normal things like change in the locker room?
man. your brain must be a confusing place. id laugh if it wasnt such a tragedy for the human race.
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2:26 pm
I feel very sorry for you that you are a FORMER HIGH SCHOOL athlete, but i was a football player in high school as well, and i also was in the drama club the same length of time which was the WHOLE TIME! I enjoyed both and received nothing but congratulations from my peers. you are a sad little mad trying to relive the only glory days you had which were in high school and why is that, just not good enough to get into college on that great athletic career? Well in my case I moved on to college in the performance arts since i was overlooked since the scout that was there was looking for the “game winning talent” like quarterback or wide receiver, not looking for the linebacker, oh well. And form your on opinions without hiding behind your faith because not all christians share in your delusion church sect and no self respecting church NOT filled with bigots would accept you excepts to try to help you come to realize your sinful nature.
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10:20 am
Obviously, you never watch the show. This whole article is so ridiculous. By the way, Lea Michelle, the woman who plays Rachel Berry is 24 I think, NOT 30. Just one simple example of someone who does NO research, as checking someone’s age is as simple as looking at Wikipedia. Or, do you think Wikipedia is homosexual and dangerous for children too?
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9:33 am
Funny how you find it so easy to copy word for word the opinions of the other children who post here. You have said nothing new and I have addressed these issues many times before. It does surprise me, however, that so many are addicted to this garbage. I only wish more parents were involved in their children’s lives. It is a sad state of America that we live in today.
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11:49 am
I think it is great that you can come to a “Christian” website to find that there is alot of judging going on.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING (IN MY VERSION OF THE HOLY BIBLE) THAT WE should NOT judge….and that THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON THAT WOULD JUDGE…and that WOULD NOT BE YOU, your writers, or editors.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED to call yourself a CHRISTIAN
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9:35 am
Matt, clearly you do not understand Matthew 7. What the Bible teaches us is to be the best people we can be morally and to open ourselves up to criticism if we are to judge others. By your shallow logic, we should never judge the adulterers and murderers, the rapists and the pedophiles. That’s rather silly to say, don’t you think?
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11:06 am
in reply to your ridiculous view of “judging” and how its promoted in the bible, i see now its your habit to not do research before opening your mouth. you didnt watch glee before you judged, and you definitely didnt read the bible before you started randomly quoting it. no we DO NOT judge. REGARDLESS of the sin (notice i said regardless…which is a word…and not irregardless…which is a double negative and definitely not correct in the english language, take it from me im a current english major). pedophiles, rapists, murderers, and whatever other sinners you identify–NO, we DONT judge them. we stay smart and do not trust those who prove to be pedophiles, rapists, and murderers, because to not be wary would be ridiculous, but we do not JUDGE. the laws of man judge them, and we as christians are SUPPOSED to conform to the laws of heaven, which says you do not judge. period. judgment is for GOD. for you to judge is for you to inadvertantly say you are God, or are just as divine, which is WHOLLY innaccurate and quite proud (pride…you know, being one of the seven deadly sins.)
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12:06 pm
One of the jocks on Glee actually needs to say “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.”
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1:50 pm
I got a large music scholarship to school… and with my academic scholarships added to it I went to a really expensive private university for free!
So saying that this show gives false hope of succeeding in music is ridiculous. As you said, not all of us were meant to play sports.
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3:25 pm
Let me get this straight (sorry…that was not intended to be a pun)
You think this show is supposed to be real and serious??!! Get your funny bone tuned up and then watch again. It’s SUPPOSED to be exaggerated and fake! It isn’t supposed to give of the message like an old after-school special. It is supposed to have “far too many musical numbers” and appear like “they’ve been coached”. DUHHHHHHH!!!!!
And *this* is why I am not a Christian. You people are morons.
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9:35 pm
“irregardless”
IRREGARDLESS. IS NOT. A WORD.
‘Regardless’ is a word. ‘Irrespective’ is a word.
IRREGARDLESS IS NOT A WORD.
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9:37 am
No one likes a grammar pest, particularly one who is simply ignorant. Irregardless is indeed a word and common usage has made it acceptable. You are just repeating some silly catchphrase you 5th grade teacher screwed into your head. Get with the times.
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12:30 am
yeah irregardless is not a word even by common usage.just because you say a word enough that doesnt make it proper. let me give you another reason irregardless is not a word
ir·re·gard·less
–adverb Nonstandard .
regardless
—Can be confused: irregardless, regardless (see usage note at this entry ).
—Usage note
Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable.
this means that what you should say is regardless not irregardless. and shouldn’t a journalist be worried about grammar when they write. the English language is based around grammar and word usage… those are two of the largest parts of intelligent speech.
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3:51 am
Mr. Billings, you are what’s wrong with America today. Please return to your fantasies of “One World, One God, One Truth” and let the rest of us handle life in the real world. Oh, by the way, I don’t watch Glee, and I’m not Christian. Nor am I Jewish, Muslim, or gay, for that matter.
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12:31 pm
This is my first time seeing this article. One of the ironies I see form the author is that while they are upset by the show’s portrayal of Christians (Quinn’s parents), the author also fulfills that stereotype. Quinn’s parents disown her because they are ashamed of her pregnancy, and how she broke the Christian ‘law’ of no premarital sex. First, Jesus offers grace and frees us from the law. Second, I find this show has done an outstanding job of showing the difficulties of high school and how high school students behave.
Concerning the “too much music” comment in the article, maybe the author was misinformed. This show is a musical, not an old sitcom.
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12:55 pm
This is hilarious! I love satire! At first I thought this was real, and I was going to be disappointed, but cleary no person could be stupid enough to write this. Way to bring attention to how silly some people can be!
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7:32 pm
Ok listen up!! Nothings wrong with gays, two shut up your obviously catholic and have no correct oppinions. Third JESUS DOESN’T CARE IF YOUR GAY!!!! Jesus is the reason you are he put a female soul in a male body. And it’s a show about a glee club of course there’s musical numbers duh, and ya their coached we don’t wanna watch crappy dancing. And this won’t destroy our culture you retard because if your stupid enough to suck up everything the tv says then ita your parents fault for not teaching you the talking tube box lies so go put this review up your butt where it belongs because it’s full of biased lies!!
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12:10 pm
“For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death.”
exodus 31:15
“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.”
Timothy 1:11-12
see what I did there? I just made the Bible sound like one of the most hateful texts written.
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6:47 pm
LYING WITH MALE AS WOULD FEMALE IS PHISICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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7:35 pm
This is one of the most inadvertently hilarious postings I have ever read in my life. If I didn’t know better, I would swear it was actually written by one of the creators of GLEE to expose the staggering bigotry that the Brent Bozoes of the world reveal every time they utter so much as a vowel. Whoever really wrote this should go on Fox News and try to convert viewers.
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8:24 pm
You, Mr. Billings, are the epitome of what’s wrong with humanity.
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10:05 pm
This site HAS to be satire. It is just too sublimely hilarious not to be. Just HAS TO BE satire!
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12:37 am
Wow. I’m a “kid” 14 year old gay guy. Do you know what “we” talk about at school, or even DO at school? My friends smoke pot during passing period, my boyfriend drinks in class. So what?Its not your life, is it? Society didn’t make me gay, you dumb ass. Even though i didn’t choose to be gay, I still support who i am. Oh yeah, the world is gonna end when everyone turns gay. Yeah. That’s what’s gonna happen. Kurt, i have to say, is cute. Yeah, and there is only like a few scenes with guys in the locker room. Only one of them(I believe) has a naked guy. Finn, and he’s singing. First episode. Go watch the WHOLE series before you critique.
Next season comes September 21st. Yeah, I’m throwing a party for it at my house. Screw you, Stephenson Billings.
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12:34 pm
I think you are too young for this web site. Why don’t you pass along this article to your parents, okay sport? God bless you.
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12:59 am
Wow! You are probably the most ignorant Christian I have ever heard of. God said love one another not lets crap on the gays all day. The bible didn’t say love all people excluding gays. I am a fan of the show and if you really wanted to focus on an issue about the show elaborate on pre-marital sex because the biblehas definitely rules about that but not about “hatin’ on gays”.
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2:34 am
I think it’s interesting that you have used multiple renderings of this Bible verse. Maybe you should actually get a Bible out and use that.
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1:02 am
Wow! You are probably the most ignorant Christian I have ever heard of. God said love one another not lets crap on the gays all day. The bible didn’t say love all people excluding gays. I am a fan of the show and if you really wanted to focus on an issue about the show elaborate on pre-marital sex because the biblehas definitely rules about that but not about “hatin’ on gays”. Besides its a t.v. show!!!! No ones claimed that this is real life. Most teens and children random song bursts are not normal… unless you go to a performing arts school like me. So in my very agitated voice I will leave off by saying “Suck it!!”
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3:30 pm
“ignorant Christian” sounds a bit redundant.
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12:28 pm
The American Christian fascist right wing obsession with gays really makes me laugh.
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12:28 pm
The programme has been deemed by it’s producers that is unsuitable for young teens.
Your ideas are, quite frankly, absurd. This is 2010. Do us all a favour and go back to the patriarchal society you came from.
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12:29 pm
Im 16, male, not gay and love Glee. This is also the single worst in-depth review of anything I have ever read in my entire life. Whoever wrote this needs to get out more and LIVE.
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12:37 pm
TOO YOUNG FOR A WEBSITE FOR CHRISTIAN ADULTS!
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Don’t shout dear… its unseemly.
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4:10 pm
your ‘journalism’ is terrible.
You are just an opinionated jerk, apparently Glee is doing fine, it’s still on the air and people are still watching it. You obviously don’t have a hit TV show and never will, because you want everyone to be the same exact god fearing experiece-less people, life doesn’t have a cookie cutter people aren’t all the same. get over it.
people’s values are different, homosexuality, abortions, drugs, sexual activity, etc, should be at people’s own discretion and you should mind your own business. To each their own.
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12:18 am
First off i would just like to say that your post is highly uninformed and one sided which comes of as very tactless, and since you are trying to persuade someone why this T.V. show should not be watched. it was poorly done.
Second, as a “journalist” your responses to peoples opinions are exceedingly trite and ignorant. you seem to be quick to cut down a show that is not intended for younger teens to begin with. also it has been shown that students in the arts are more likely to succeed in other fields of study. and the percentage of students that are given athletic scholarships, compared to those of performing arts, are much smaller.
third, as a christian I feel that you are too quick to condemn others… last time i checked that wasn’t your job.
fourth what is wrong with telling children that they can succeed in whatever they attempt. In high school i was on the swim team, was a valedictorian who took calculus my senior year, and was the lead tenor in our top choir ensamble.
so to say that people who are not made to be good at something shouldn’t try is ridiculous. obviously you are not a parent and if you are why do you not want your child to achieve what ever they want to.
so before you write an “informed” article look at all sides of the argument because you obviously did not attempt to understand the show.
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12:23 am
This article offends my sense of religion and spirituality. I am a Christian and am embarrassed to admit it simply because of those who are narrow minded, cruel and unloving and hide it behind their faith.
But, because I love a good debate, I have to respond to this article and leave my disgust aside. Oh, oops, I guess I failed at that already, didn’t I. Oh dang.
Anyway…
In your article, you suggest that if American teens weren’t exposed to such gay-friendly television shows, than perhaps the future of America could be saved. Well, I suppose I am more or less paraphrasing that statement, however, it is the sentiment you present. In any regard, your statement disregards many more violent and disturbing offenses that could still lead American teens astray. Being gay is not going to ruin the future. Greed and corporate corruption will more than likely be a major culprit. Unless, of course, all those corporate types are closeted gays…then perhaps your argument makes complete sense.
The future does not rest in or on or anywhere around sexuality. And, while this may be shocking for you to hear, most teenagers don’t care about sexuality either. At least not here in Canada.
I run youth groups for teenagers in an Anglican context. I believe the last time the gay debate happened, I was a teenager myself. It’s just not an issue for them any more, and when an adult such as yourself tries to make it one, they usually tune you out. They are, as you say, our future. Let’s help them be healthy, respectful adults – and sadly, Glee does a better job at than than you do.
Glee is more than willing to say “Alright, I KNOW you are going to do the things I tell you not to do, so let’s talk about how to do it safely.” Because, really, all teenagers are going to experiment with drinking, drugs, and pre-marital sex. Why not trust them enough to talk to them about it?
ugh…..we are ruining the future, because there are more frightened adults than there are well-balanced ones — and we pass that fear to our children. That’s just kind of sad.
Cheers!
/Jane
OHHHHHH….and, if you are going to quote old testament and other ancient biblical references, make sure you aren’t doing it in the context of a modern day debate over a modern day television show. In doing so, you blatantly disregard the fact that our society and the ancient society are vastly different, which would then negate the need for your argument at all. If they were the same, we wouldn’t have a tv show like Glee on the air to debate over.
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6:07 am
I read this and I just had to publish it on Facebook and let all my friends read it too, because it’s just so HILARIOUS! I can’t help but feel that you have missed the point of Glee entirely. It is supposed to be overly-dramatic, and not entirely realistic. I really don’t have much to say, but thank you for the amusement. I’ll probably be commenting on more articles soon =)
Love you xx
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1:53 pm
Whoever wrote this post about Glee- it seems like you are definitely a repressed homosexual, holding in hate and rage. Why are you so obsessed with the Golden Girls? Probably because you are gay. Also, you keep writing about “hard bodies” and “tight biceps”.
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6:23 pm
Oh please…relax. Welcome to the 21st Century.
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9:08 pm
Fox is not Fox News, Rupert Murdoch likes money. End of story.
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6:58 pm
I had to stop reading this article because I laughed so hard my soda came out of my nose. Did you really complain about how may musical numbers there are in a show whose entire purpose is musical numbers?
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9:21 am
soooo…what you are saying is that the songs are too well rehearsed and the performances should be scaled back to make them more “believable”
I really don’t get that part of it…ever see “grease”?
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9:47 pm
I’m sorry but this is absolutely terrible. I have never read anything so offensive against something so popular. I believe that this show is meant for high schoolers, who already have their lives figured out. It doesn’t mean children shouldn’t watch it. And as for the sex scenes or would-be sex scenes are normal You really think “kids” “their age” aren’t having sex? Seriously. The show is what it is. It is supposed to be entertaining, not realistic. Just like all other shows of this nature. Personally I love this show.
I see no problem with the gay character Kurt, the diva Mercedes or the “Both-Ways” Finn. Their characters may not be believable but it’s fun to watch. If I wanted to watch a show that was more realistic, I would record my own days in high school.
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10:20 am
Before you write something on a show, try watching it. Almost everything you have said about the show “Glee” is false. There is one scene with Finn in the shower and he is ALONE, Artie is a FANTASTIC singer, Will is NOT gay, Rachel was cast the role because she is an AMAZING singer and she happens to be a little like her character in real life (watch her audition tape) and why are you complaining that the musical numbers are great? You would rather watch a show where the people have no talent? Most of these actors were on Broadway! I’m tried of turning on the t.v to unrealistic shows with people who can’t act. Now a days i feel like even i could do more than half the things that are on other channels. As a student in high school, i can honestly say that Glee shows the struggles and hardships that we go through and has the most talented cast I have ever seen. Try trashing a show that actually deserves it and try watching it this time!
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2:04 pm
People like you make me so angry. You are so narrow minded. Yes because one character in one TV show is going to make the entire generation gay because according to you no one can think for themselves and are not intelligent enough to make the “right” choices. You talk about not letting children watching this show but what do you think they are talking about at school? All the same things on this show. There are plenty of other shows that have all of the same elements in it but they are so much more dramatic. Have you ever even heard of Degrassi?
Also in a number of popular TV shows or movies about teenagers or high school the actors are not teenagers themselves. This is nothing new. It has been happening for a long time. There is also nothing wrong with trained actors and choreographed dances. This is a TV show not real life. Remember high school musical? Everything rehearsed and practices and choreographed. The singers all having some sort of vocal training, and all of them lip syncing when they are actually filming, and just singing along with a pre-recorded version.
These are all issues children are going to have to deal with in real life and not all gay kids are going to say “I love Jesus. I am going ot stop being gay”. Isn’t Christianity about accepting people not about telling them they are doomed because of who they are? There are always going to be pregnant teenagers in high school, this is nothing that is going to change, and there are always going to be different kinds of people. I think Glee promotes accepting people for who they are and showing that the clubs they are in or sports that they play do not define them. It can be an inspiring show but it makes people feel good. People know that things won’t always turn out like in the TV show and they know that life has limitations that sometimes you just can’t overcome but that doesn’t mean that they can’t try their hardest to do it.
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3:21 pm
It is articles like this that give christianity a bad name. The homophobic undertones of this article are truely shocking, as a christian you should be accepting of all people – and you should not be judging them. Leave the judgement up to God.
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10:56 am
Does anyone actually read this e-zine? Its totally laughable. I posted several of these “articles” (so full of hate and disgusting comments) to my facebook opening laughing at them. I mean, come on! This is the absolute best way to get more people turned off by Christianity. I mean, do you hear yourselves? This is my favorite: “There are no teens cured of their relentless and wild male sex desires, there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.””
WE DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE GAY. WE ONLY CHOOSE TO NOT LIE TO OURSELVES.
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2:45 pm
I think Jesus could have been gay. He had prostitute friends he invited to dinner; dressed in draped clothing; hung out with the “guys” all the time; and he was into making fine wooden home-goods as a carpenter. Plus, Jews are very liberal with sex and sexuality…
Seriously, the argument that being gay is evil is ridiculous. Jesus befriended a prostitute and spoke out against the Jewish priests when they were judgmental and hypocritical (much like the authors of these stupid posts).
If Jesus were alive today, I think he’d say “love the gays and bring them to dinner; God knows they cook a damned good meal and could decorate your putrid conservative home much better! Not to mention, they have much better and tolerant values, which I support” Do you really think he’d watch Fox?! I don’t think so… he’s much more open minded than that, in my opinion.
Oh, and one last thing to all of our overly-conservative, narrow-minded, puritan friends: would you please stop speaking for God or Jesus? They are big boys now, and they are quite capable of doing it themselves. Thanks!
Hugs and kisses, from a big ole’ queen (that’s gay speak for “a gay person”)
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4:29 pm
Worthless article, but fun read, made me laugh! Copy editor (if not the actual writer) should have caught vocal “chords.” Should be vocal “cords.” More correctly, “vocal folds.”
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8:38 pm
you are clearly an ignorant bigot, but just out of interest, have you ever seen Secret Life of the American Teenager? that’s a show that blatantly corrupts religious values, and ethical behavior for shock and ratings. you probably just hear the characters talking about being faithful Christians and accept that as justification for their idiotic, misinformed behavior.
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10:10 pm
This is the funniest fucking thing i have ever read…This writer has bigger problems than Glee turning a generation of american into Homosexual. HILARIOUS!!!!! Keep writing brother it makes it so much easier for the rest of us not to take christians so seriously. I LOVE IT!
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3:52 pm
Mmmmmmmmmm….Puck is so hot when he’s shirtless
I am a guy btw
LET THE HATE COME! MWAHWAH!
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5:22 am
Oh my god.
Glee’s terrible for kids.
Instead, I’ll make them watch True Blood.
~ON HBO.~
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5:28 am
God loves everyone.
Isn’t that the basis of Christianity?
Worthless idiots that try to keep ~holy~. Just be nice.
It’s people like you that make the rest of us Christians looks like fools.
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5:55 am
Glee is the devil.
Kids should be directed to watch things like, South Park, Family Guy, The Hills.
I agree with you 100%.
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Btw half the gay shit you said in this article didn’t even happen in Glee.
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8:55 am
I can’t believe how WRONG almost everything in this is.
Yes, Kurt’s gay.
NO ONE ELSE IS.
Finn who’s stated to go “both ways” is the only one who actually has a homophobic nature when dealing with Kurt (aside from the rest of the football team).
Artie DOES sing, and you can find clips of him doing so off the stages of glee.
When I was in drama, we had AMAZING sets and we were a pool school. It’s easy when yourselves or someone else in the school makes them.
The only reason I can find that this article is SO against GLEE is because while it does have some subjects that parents might want to discuss with their kids in the first place, it teaches DIVERSITY and TOLERANCE.
Haters gonna hate, it turns out that once again, the haters are the extremist Christians.
If I didn’t trust and love God so much, you’d almost make me ashamed to call myself Christian.
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9:57 am
Is this…is this for real? I’m serious because if it is, its disturbing that someone thinks this way and even if its not I didn’t find it very funny. It just reads as a misinformed article, as if the authors friends (likely as ignorant as him) viewed the show and told him about it.
I don’t want to go in to everything but believe me, I could be here for awhile. The only thing I want to say is I read where you said this article was for adults, I am 18 so Thank God I guess that means I can read this. I am also a Christian and to be honest, your article insults me more than this show does. It gives the Christian religion a horrible witness to others. So thank you so much for making it harder and harder to be taken seriously as a Christian.
There are worse shows. Given some of the stuff out there, Glee is perfectly fine.
(And a last thing that bugged me. Kevin McHale does sing the songs. He might be bad at singing them while they film the shows but rest assured that is him singing and he’s probably one of the better ones up there)
Sam
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9:18 pm
I’m amazed at the ignorance of this article’s author.
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12:02 am
This is satire, right? There’s no way someone would actually believe all this nonsense.
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6:43 pm
This article made me sick to my stomach. I am very pleased, however, that I am living in another country so do not have to cope with the level of ignorance and bigotry and hypocrisy so rife in American culture. To dismantle your article piece by piece would take forever, so let me ask you to explain this. The bible teaches tolerance, love and acceptance, yes? You, by your own admission, advocate family values, yes? In the episode “Wheels”, Kurt and Rachel audition to perform “Defying Gravity” from the musical “Wicked”.Rachel ultimately gets the part because (please read the following bit in great big capital letters, flashing in neon lights) Kurt purposely misses the high F out of concern for his father being harassed about his son’s sexual orientation. Kurt tells his father, “I love you more than I love being a star.” I’m sorry Stephenson Billings but it is quite evidently YOU who is against family values, love and all things associated with love. This is not only a touching and amazing moment of true family love but also heartbreaking! Here is a kid who lives in a society which makes him choose. He should not have to. He should be able to both show his love for his father and hit a high F without his father suffering repercussions. If that is not love and devotion, what is? You are a narrow minded and hateful person. There is no way that any God anywhere on this planet supports or admires or loves you. The God you believe in is utterly and completely ashamed in you. Hold your head in shame and hide your face from the world. No-one wants to hear anything from you and your ignorant brain.
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2:14 pm
Glee portrays many different aspects of the typical high school. there are silly little girls who think sex and parties are everything, but there are also girls and boys who are down to earth and realize that life is not all about finding a “mate”. you may think that Glee only shows the bad aspects…but there are many life lessons to be learned…such as taking responsability for your own actions and that its ok to spend time on things that you enjoy! If all we do is work, we will all end up dead before the century is up. Im not saying that hard work isnt needed in this world but “work hard, play hard”! As far as the homosexuality, who are we to judge somone…just because they are different… noone is perfect!! so grow up, open your eyes..and maybe get a real job…that doesnt involve hiding behind a computer!
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2:25 pm
Okay, so, Glee is an amazing show. Yes, a teenager did get pregnant..but she chose not to have an abortion. Yes, they had drugs and alcohol, but they learned from their mistakes. isnt that what kids do? yes. they learn from their mistakes. Im sorry your mr. perfect and were all idiots to you.
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2:22 am
Oh, humble author of this goofy article, please tell me you’re trolling…
Good grief, it’s just a tv show (and a great one at that!) Is it really necessary to get all bent out of shape about it?
My word, there were so many things wrong with this article…
I take extreme offense to your viewpoint on homosexuality. People have been that way since the begining of time. It comes naturally to some individuals and opressing them is wrong. I think it’s disgusting how you “conservative Christian types” expect everyone to conform to your rigid lifestyle!
As for the bit about The Golden Girls, there is no way they would have turned young men off of having sex. Besides, at the time it was airing, there were lots of pictures of young women for the lads to be looking at. Furthermore, I think a decrease in procreation is a great thing these days. The world is far too overpopulated!
If you have a problem with your kids watching something, then just make sure they don’t watch it. Why ruin it for the numerous fans? (myself included)
Now, please insert your conservative Christian foot into your morally righteous mouth. I think Glen Beck is coming on.
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10:40 am
Is this article even serious? It’s the year 2010, grow up you mis-informed, close minded imbeciles.
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6:48 am
this is ridiculous, sure Glee isn’t suitable for really young children aged 5, but who’s fault is it if there parents let them watch it. For everyone else its up to personal choice, but you don’t see half as much sexual issues or ‘bad’ scenes as some other shows, kids nowadays talk about way worse things at a young age. There is nothing wrong with being gay, and believe it or not people do face the issues in Glee. Is it right to make teenagers feel like being gay is wrong? or to encourage them to come out and be confident about themselves?. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, if you don’t like the show don’t watch it, but it is stupid to suggest that it be taken off air completely just for your benefit. It doesn’t give kids false hope, but encourages them to do what they want to do. Judging by the amount of comments against what you have said, many people strongly disagree with you.
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1:56 pm
I’d just like to let you know, the people like the author of this article, and many of the posters, are the reason I have turned away from Christianity. You all have NO hope for the future, and do not accept anyone into your lives that AREN’T Christian. I hope you know that because of you people, many children and adults will turn away from this religion.
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4:35 pm
I’m pretty ashamed to say I’m Christian after reading this, honestly.. Kurt is gay, yes, but there are (shock shock shock) gay males in high school! As this is a show set in a high school, I would be shocked if there wasn’t at least one gay male in the cast. As for Quinn? She is a perfect example of something every high school has had to deal with. A seemingly perfect girl, having everything she could ever ask for, make a stupid mistake and have to deal with the consequences. They very easily could have had Quinn go get an abortion, but they didn’t. They had her do what a LOT of pregnant, Christian teens do. Carry the baby to term and give him or her up for adoption. I adore Glee and think it is a very good picture of what a typical American high school is like.
And as for the music thing.. Oh, buddy, don’t get me started! I march in band, and I work just as hard as any of those football players. I have gotten just as many scholarship offers, and even more than my boyfriend, who is star quarterback on our highschool football team. I am very proud of what I do. I may not be as athletic as some of my best friends, who are volleyball, track, or swim stars, but I have music, which will stay with me for the rest of my life. I have the discipline that comes from my band director yelling at me every morning “RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT” at 7 AM when I’m barely conscious. I have the skill that playing drums and flute brings me. And I’m proud. Do I wish I could play sports? Sure I do. Would I if it meant I had to give up marching? Heck no! I’m also in choir and at our school, the same director directs both, so I’m harped on just as much during choir as I am in band. But I know it will make me better.
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8:19 pm
This story is ridiculous. My parents and I watch this show together and I am no worse for the wear. It gives meaning to teenage life, showing that if we truly believe in ourselves, we can get through the toughest situations.
The producers (and the writers) do not value art over sport, nor do they promote homosexuality. Finn chose to sing, because he enjoyed doing so and he was talented. He remained on the football team, but peer pressure made that infinitely harder.
As for homosexuality – it happens. I think a lot of people need to grow up. You think homosexuality is a sin, but if it were a sin, why would God have created people this particular way? He’s “all-seeing”, right? He would have seen the aftermath of his decisions and I know that he would accept homosexual people. Christians would insult him more than any homosexual or atheist.
The realization that a sixteen year old girl is smarter than you must hurt. I live you with this post and a sarcastic “good day”.
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4:40 pm
Your writing is filled with contradictions and very idiotic ideas. Artie needing a side kick or a funny catch phrase? This isnt Batman, nor will it ever be. It also doesnt matter how old the people are that are cast to sing in the show, and also, your making it sound like the whole show is about people singing horrid songs with over the top performances, many shower scenes involving the football players, and filled with homosexual indevours. I suggest you resort to actually watching the show instead of reading tabolts about it
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7:46 pm
as of today MY girls will NOT being watching Glee..after this nasty two cheerleaders making out in bed thing..I’m ticked off, this show should be about music..dont give me the crap about whats going on in High school these days..Thats why my kids are homeschooled. shame on FOX!
PS i dont care who i offend!
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9:20 pm
I was completely offended and horrified until “Sadly, with the Golden Girls in weeknight syndication, the youngest gays have confused this timetable to mean they need five new boyfriends a week.” Sooo funny. It was then I caught on…
You are obviously brilliant, although the line between satire and what the far conservative right really thinks is rather fuzzy…
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10:14 am
ok. i really dont think you ever watched the show. if you have, you SUPER missed the point. i have so many problems with this post. i am a 20 year old christian who has MANY gay best friends, even though i am one hundred percent of the faith. how can you claim christianity when you shun the number one rule that jesus tried to teach us? you LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF. period. there are no exceptions. when someone one hits you, you turn the other cheek. jesus taught HUMILITY and ACCEPTANCE. he CONDEMNED the people like you in the bible, the wealthy or high profile “religious” leaders who thought they were better than their congregation. he definitely did not tolerate them. second of all you either are OBSESSED with the homosexual community or you are just paranoid and should seek medical relief for the issue. the scenes in glee with the locker rooms are NORMAL. have you ever had a kid in football? because thats what happens in locker rooms, i hope you know. people take their dirty clothes off and shower and then go home. DUH. thats what a locker room is for. are you suggesting we make the locker rooms open to BOTH sexes to promote heterosexuality? or would that fall under your promiscuous issue? you contradict yourself left and right. EVERYONE on that show sings. and NEWSFLASH: MUSICALS ARENT REALISTIC. when people break out into song and dance in musicals it isnt supposed to be REAL or depicting actual events, its supposed to be an expression of the INNER THOUGHTS of the characters. do research before you talk about stuff like this. ive been involved in theatre for over ten years, and went to an exclusive college for the arts. if you are SO concerned with the youth of today, you should stop posting, because it is people like YOU who breed hate and discrimination in children. if i were you i would urge EVERY child to watch this show, because of its wonderful lessons on how to be accepting of EVERYONE and to not bully, discriminate, hate, harass, or promote violence for ANYONE out of the norm. lea michelle is beautiful, thats probably the only fact you got right. did you ever go to high school? because beauty is not the key to popularity. it is the ideals that you promote that create popular people. it is the girls that are EXACLTY like rachel berry that are labeled the geeks, freaks, losers, nerds, etc. in school because of their desire to follow dreams that reach OUTSIDE of the popular trends and fads. you are so out of touch with your humanity its scary. i dont understand how it has become the christian norm to advertise ridicule and harassment as the correct way to bring up children. and your weird claim that teaching kids to reach for the stars is IRRESPONSIBLE? how can you say youre a person, much less a parent? people CAN do what they want in life, regardless of the obstacles, if they have enough faith in themselves, christ, and enough strength and desire to do it! shame on you. i hope later in life, when your children are grown and they come across this blog, that they scold you for your horrendous act of hate and discrimination!
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11:30 am
Aside from him being a horrible writer (look into English 101 classes at your local community college to get a better idea as to how to form sentences please), I’m starting to think the writer of these articles is gay! He seems to focus on homosexuality a LOT and knows too much about the gay lifestyle to be just a casual observer.
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8:31 pm
I’m sorry but i started reading this and could not help but comment.
1st off, Mr. Billings, you have many of your facts wrong.
2nd, yes, the show has gotten worse, and i hate that.
Now, for my opinoins.
Why do you keep calling everyone who disagrees with you a liberal?? i for one am a strong conservative and don’t agree with some of your points.
For those bashing Christianity, i am also a strong Christian and i believe that we shouldn’t support homosexuallity but we shouldn’t bash the people. Hate the sin, not the sinner. Like the Bible says, every sin is just as bad. Whether you murdered someone or lied to your brother.
As i read in an earlier comment, you said that 15 was too young to know about some things about marriage. Girls should know about breastfeeding. We get breasts around 10, and we’re gonna what and need to know why. We know about sex, and how you should save it for marriage; otherwise, we would accadentally (excuse my spelling) have premarital sex without knowing.
What i’ve decided to do about glee is have my parents watch it 1st, then i watch it with them so they can fast-forward through things and we can talk about how the characters are making wrong choices as a family.I’m a freshman in high school, and we have i think 3 pregnant girls at my school. I’m gonna be tempted, and i need to know how to avoid such things.
Whatever you want to believe, you can. I just felt the need to share my opinion.
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8:23 pm
I love Glee! It’s very funny….
I feel as if your info on the characters is all wrong. The girls that plays Rachel is definitley NOT in her 30′s, she is in her mid-20′s. Also, Artie really sings, the guy that plays him CAN sing. Also, Sue is hilarious, hilarious, HILARIOUS. And for the football coach, he wears short shorts bc, well, he likes them. Is that so terrible? No. And the man that plays Will Shuester (Matthew Morrison) is NOT gay. It makes me sick, that you would judge him like that! He’s NOT gay, he had a girlfriend. Just because he is on braodway and beause he sings and dances, he’s not gay.
Sorry, but this article is flat out stupid. All your facts are wrong…HAVE YOU WATCHED TO SHOW!?
All you care about is the gay character, Kurt. Yeah, he’s gay…so what? It’s his choice. I’m a Christian I know that being gay is a sin..but remember (Love the Sinner, HATE THE SIN). I do hate his character constantly being homosexual. It’s really gross when he talks about liking guys. (I am a guy, so it’s really wrong)
And as for the “shower” scenes. They aren’t bad at all. There have been like 4 of those, and they are at the most 1 minute long and they show from the male breast up. It’s not bad at all.
Obviously, you haven’t heard people talk in high schools. Because, Glee captures high school perfectly. People talk bad, and people have sex. Once again, “Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin”.
And also, Quinn (“slutty” cheerleader as you so rudely called her) is not a slut. Have you seen any other episodes? She’s very sweet, and kind. I am actually surprised at how sweet she is. She learned about not being a slut after she had her baby.
As for Mercedes….what you said was racist.
So, Overall you need to do some more research. Yes, glee pushes boundaries. But, if you had watched more episodes then you would see that it actually has some good morals to it. Overall, the show is about High School. High school is…sex talk, and cussing.
If you wanna bash popular shows, go pick on another show! There are shows WAY worse than Glee!
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5:31 pm
You sicken me. I don’t know why I’m even bothering to post this, but I’m so irritated I might as well get it out of my system.
The message of the show is one of tolerance and acceptance. Of course you don’t like it, it’s clearly not aimed at a fundamentalist audience. I don’t know why you’re even bothering to review it.
And it’s not overly gay at all. Why do you assume that the occasional locker room/shirtless scenes are aimed at boys? Do you really think that a show about singing and dancing is aimed at boys?
The character Will is not at all gay. If he is then 50% of all males I’ve ever met are gay. And the actor that plays him isn’t either.
And your understanding of the show is completely wrong. Rachel is not portrayed as ugly, she’s potrayed as annoying and pushy. The message is a positive one, that your appearance alone won’t make people overlook large personality flaws.
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3:42 pm
Okay I’d just like to start out by asking WHY in the world did you waste your time writing this? It isn’t going to accomplish anything, because those who love the show will just continue to watch it. Second, you’re looking at a public television show broad casted on FOX network in an extremely religious view. You can’t just say there are too many scenes where the guys are shirtless and that it appeals to the homosexual community. Uhm, it also appeals to girls who maybe like to see a shirtless guy every once in a while. Is that such a horrible thing? Oh and you also got the point of the show COMPLETELY wrong. It isn’t hypocritical or lying or luring kids into a false sense of security that they can be whatever they want to be. It’s the truth. This show is all about expressing who you are and being proud of it and not being afraid to be different. It sends out a GREAT message. Also, you must be from an older generation and not from the generation that this show is trying to reach out to, because today’s generation is more accepting to differences. We are more open minded to things like religion and homosexuality. People are different. If we were all the same life would be so boring. Being different makes us special. This show proves that. People claiming to be “Christians” today are so hypocritical. They think they are so much better than everyone else. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, or black, or being different in any way.I wish more people would understand that. This show sends out a positive message. You need to stop being so up-tight and look at the show from a different point of view and maybe you will see the more positive impact it has on society,
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3:48 pm
I hadn’t read the descriptions of the characters before I typed that above, and now i just have to add more being you make me want to vomit. This article makes me SO angry. From reading the character descriptions not only have I deduced what I have typed above, but I now know you are NOT a Christian as you claim to be, but you are a hypocrite, a homophobe, and a racist. This article should be deleted. You disgust me.
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12:55 pm
How can people be so damned ignorant? Oh, wait. The author is a christian. I understand now.
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6:01 pm
Gosh how i love doing gay things with guys in the bathroom! Thank you Glee! Thank you Betty White! It just couldnt be possible without you in our world. Now if you´ll excuse me im gonnan go flash my tight outfit in the steamy shower of my gay gym! Xoxo
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6:29 pm
a friend of mine posted this for me and i got to say that the more i read the more disappointed i am with humanity, i cannot believe people like you will call yourself christian. Jesus is above all love and judge NOT, to use religion as a sword to judge any type of lifestyle but your own is egotistical and self serving. The only thing this kind of posts do is spread hate and ignorance, your so-called “values” only incite your children to judge and condemn people that are different from them and get ostracized in a society that has outgrown them.
To claim that you know what God thinks is absolutely ridiculous and to actually use Him to spread your own small mindedness is insulting; i remind you the most important teaching He gave us “may the one free of sin throw the first stone” and NO ONE did!!
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1:11 am
Dear author:
Glee is wonderful! Your article reads as though you are afraid of ‘catching’ homosexuality in some way, which I would argue is a far more sinister message to send to children than any of the scenarios the tv show has put forward. Your own homophobia is part of the fear that leads to bullying–an issue that Glee has taken a brave stand on this season. Furthermore, sports, the arts, the value of friendship and family, and religion have all been considered as important topics on this show. I am an adult and if I have children, I hope that they are as respectful of their parents and caring toward their friends as the character of Kurt is. That said, although many parents do allow their children to watch Glee, I would note that millions of adults watch the show every week and love it. Ryan Murphy and the show’s other creators have never professed to be making ‘family programming’ with Glee. If parents do allow their children to watch it, I would hope that they explain complicated or mature themes–but laud the message that being yourself is okay and that everyone is different. I sincerely wish you luck overcoming an apparent tendency to fear gay rights issues or any sort of individuality in teenagers who are trying to figure our who they are.
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9:12 pm
You sir make me, if only slightly, proud to be an atheist. And yes I know that you are not a representative of all who believe in your “ideals”. By the way, I have a gay friend so you picking on homosexuals is insulting. AND I don’t even like this show, in case you were wondering. I didn’t really have much else to say but my comment is apparently to short soo… What was your purpose in writing this anyways? Are you trying to get crazy parents to take over their lives? You’re going to start a crazy parent cult or something of the sorts.
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2:55 am
i love glee, and you are totally retarded for thinking that it’s evil. gays are awesome, and “pro creation” what kinda bull is that? there tons of people in the world. want a baby? adopt one of the trillions in adoption agencies! seriously. you’re frikkin’ stupid.
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12:13 am
Artie Abrams is played by a young actor named Kevin McHale who was a member of a boyband named NLT for a couple of years. Finn Hundson’s actor, Cory Monteith, was an untrained vocalist when he was brought on the show and had to work hard to train his vocal level up to that of his fellow cast mates (he was, in fact, autotuned for a few episodes – read about in GQ).
Lea Michele, or “Jewish Rachel”, is 24, not 30 (google it).
There is no “Victor Matlin” on the show. In fact, as far as I could find on IMDB, there is no working actor by that name period. The man’s name is Victor Garber and I just did more investigative journalism in 120 seconds than you did in your “article”.
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12:20 am
I can’t even begin to touch on everything that is wrong with this article, but I am always disheartened to see that fear and hate mongering is so prevalent.
I would love to know who is Victor Matlin is, though. Victor Garber was on Glee for a few episodes as Will’s father, although I can’t say that I find watching any parent and child hug “unseemly” unless there are extenuating circumstances.
And for the record – There are “slutty” cheerleader characters on Glee, but Quinn Fabray is not one of them. She had sex once, got pregnant, had the baby, gave it up for adoption, and is back to abstaining. She’s now wearing a promise ring her boyfriend got her with the understanding that they will get married and he will never pressure her for sex. She made a mistake, she lived through the consequences, and she learned from it. I realize that this was written before she had the baby and gave it up, but if you’d actually watched the show you would have known that that was her plan.
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1:29 am
This is the biggest piece of grabage I have ever read. Maybe you should visit a real high school and realize that pregnancy, homosexuality, and other things are evident EVERYDAY. And why lable Rachel as the “Jewish Girl” and Kurt “The Gay Kid.” Hey, I’m sorry if you’re so inclined to shut down individuality and differences that make our world better. And seriously? Mercedes is a bad role model because she’s SASSY? How bout the fact she took in a pregnant girl whose parents kicked her out of her own house?
Glee is here for comic relief and fun song and dance numbers. It’s fun. And the comment in another article that your husband is gay if he watches Glee… DOESN’T THE BIBLE TEACH US NOT TO JUDGE?!? Why make these ridiculous assumptions. You’ll have some poor woman thinking her husbands gay because he sits down with her and watches Glee.
Glee, thanks for being my favorite show and please ignore ridiculous articles liek this:)
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9:24 pm
“Look into the eyes of a young Kurt Hummel [sic]. Is that not the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist?”
“Kurt Hummel…the face our of future’s polymorphously perverse intellectual terrorist”
“Kurt Hummel…terrorist”
I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Thank you, author, for composing one of the single greatest sentences that I have ever had the joy of reading.
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2:21 am
This an absolutly ridiculous, misinformed, ignorant website for close minded christian dumb ass parents who have nothing better to do then condemn things that arent in the “norm”.
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10:58 pm
It’s quite amusing to read a large amount of enraged comments about the evils of this article – particularly considering this entire website appears to be a satire. Poe’s law – any parody of fundamentalist Christians, no matter how clearly false and ridiculous, will inevitably be mistaken as the real thing. Congratulations on proving it!
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2:27 am
Mr. Billings,
While I do not agree with many of your sometimes borderline slanderous statements, I will applaud you on your obvious skill at rhetoric. I love reading your articles and the following comments for the pure aesthetics of the writing. I truly admire your eloquence.
That being said, I do feel as if you could bring some more positive lighting to your writings perhaps. Their negativity chokes out some of the effectiveness. Most people respond much better to positive words rather than negative, harsh words.
On a separate note, not that it makes any difference, but I am a highly successful conservative gay Christian who has been with my partner for 8 years. I played sports in high school and college in addition to being involved with many, many theatre productions. Therefore your argument that Finn’s character is not realistic has been shattered.
My Best Regards,
Phill
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9:05 pm
I feel embarrassed for you after reading this. No wonder why a good chunk of America hates Christians. You have set the sterotype that Christians are hateful, judgemental, and unnaccepting of anyone who opposes the Christian belief in any way. God told us to love anyone, no matter what. Who is in the wrong now?
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12:17 am
The author of this article really needs to find somthing better to do with his time than try to shoot down drerams and aspirations of a younger generation. There is nothing wrong with Glee. Period. As a Christian, I watch Glee every single week, own all of the cd’s and the first season on DVD. This is a wonderful show that shows diversity and acceptance. It is not okay for a Christian to be judging and putting down anyone. Just because there is a gay person on the show doens’t make it bad. As a Christian, we should love gay people and show them grace and mercy like Christ shows us. It is okay to disagree and be intolerant of an idea, but it is not okay to be judgemental and intollerant of human being.
There is a lot more that I would like to say, but I simply don’t have time to continue. Basically, the author needs to find something better to do with his time than to tell people what to watch on TV. Watching Glee does not make me more or less of a Christian.
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6:06 pm
I like your article, I particularly like how are you believe that homosexuality is an abomination,
as the Bible says it does in Leviticus 18:22. BECAUSE of this I want to sell my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7, she
speaks fluent Italian and always cleared the table when it was her turn.
As you, Mr Billings, are so knowledgeable in the Bible what would a good price for her be?
Whilst thinking about, can I ask another question? My best friend insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be
put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it ok if I just call the police?
Here’s one that’s really important, because there’s got a lot of sports fans in America and across the globe. Touching the skin of a
dead pig makes one unclean, Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves can American football players still play football?
Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my
grand-mother in a small family gathering, for wearing garments made from two different threads?
Think about those questions would you? Without trying to tell me that I’m young, obsessed with Glee and that I believe that the Old Testament
should be mostly treated like a story.
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9:05 am
You may want to learn how to spell “vocal CORDS” before referencing them in a public article. You cannot possibly sound intelligent about anything when you make simple spelling mistakes.
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6:57 am
This is exactly what makes me look down on so many Christians. They can just be so judgemental. They have no issues with hocus pocus coming from the coulds (God), but yet a person being gay is wrong to them.
It truly is sad that they can’t just be good people and call it a day. I know my friends are always talking about my morals being so strong, maybe that is because
I realize people are people gay, straight, having sex, or not… just be nice and polite and call it a day. That is what matters once your life is over. There is no God to save you, but people will
remember the kind of person you were… judgemental, or kind.
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10:54 pm
It’s Victor GARBER you fucking retard. And since when is a father hugging his son “unseemly”? I wouldn’t be surprised if your sons kill themselves because they weren’t loved enough as children.
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11:39 am
‘there are no moral figures on hand to give a comforting hand, there are no popular boys who say, “I don’t want to hurt my family anymore and I love Jesus, so I am going to stop doing gay things with guys in the bathroom.” ‘
This made me LOL because Jesus isn’t real… Unless by this you mean Jesus the hunky always shirtless and in tight cut off jeans gardener.
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11:49 pm
You definitely sound like you haven’t been in high school for about fifty years.
Yes, this show is a bit more superficial than what high school is really like now with all the singing and drama but once you really get down to it, it is so much like high school. With the bullying, sex and other things.
And it’s proven fact that most people have homosexual thoughts and/or tendecies while teenagers.
And Kurt’s clothes are just clothes. It’s self-expression, it’s not hurting anyone.
This is ridiculous. It sounds like you barely watched an episode.
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1:13 am
I’m glad you picked up on the boys locker room. I’m surprised how much attention you paid to their “lathering in soap” and “tight biceps” and “rock hard abs”. It seems to me the author of this article would find a football game homoerotic because it has beefymen tackling each other. Also, telling kids that excelling in sports ill help with college success is just as misleading as saying singing will. The difference is that the arts stimulate the brain and allow children to further succeed in acadamia. No they might not get a scholarship, but unlike football, the arts will help them get in to college on academic merits. This is a great show for young to older teens and allows an open door for conversation from parents to their kids.
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So let me get this straight.. you’re against homosexuality but your first pic is Puck shirtless? Oh the irony… btw can you put a pic of Naya Rivera up too? She’s hot. I think watching Glee has turned me bisexual.. oh no wait I already was
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11:04 pm
I swear I posted a comment, but it’s not here. anyway.. I’m bisexual and I LOVE santana so can u put a cute pic of her next to the shirtless one of puck up there? that would make this page soo much better. thanx
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12:57 am
No, you did post a comment, it’s there; but you included some truth in it, and your sexual perversion has blinded you to the truth – causing you to be unable to see your own posts.
And the Lord will bear witness to my truth by blinding you also to this reply!!!
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3:03 pm
It’s people like you that made me abandon Christianity. I feel much more respected and accepted around atheists and the “godless” than I ever did around my Christian friends. This has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. Also, “the show does not offer any alternative to the gay lifestyle argument”… are you for fucking real? You honestly think people can be cured of homosexuality? I bleed for America.
STRAIGHT, NOT NARROW!
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11:09 am
Jesus christ, this is a tv programme, not real life, it’s entertainment!
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I’m absolutely furious with this. It genuinely saddens me, as a fifteen year old girl, to see this kind of thing. I fail to understand why homosexuality is perceived as some sort of sin or insult. IT’S JUST LOVE. GET OVER IT.
Regardless of whether you write articles like this or not, people are still going to be gay. It’s happening. The world is an entirely different place to what it used to be, and being gay is generally accepted now.
I’m disappointed in humanity right now. We’re all people. You’re no better than anybody else. What gives you the right to discriminate against somebody else?
Besides, it’s up to parents to choose what their kids watch. If they don’t want their kids watching it, then fine. They can stew in their own ignorance. But don’t try and warp people’s opinions.
As Burt said, you wouldn’t call a kid with Down’s Syndrome a retard. And it’s true. You wouldn’t mock a disabled child. You wouldn’t walk past a black person and shout offensive words at them. You wouldn’t laugh at someone for having green eyes. None of those people can help those things. So why bully them for it?
Honestly. Just when you think the human race has taken a step forwards, you see something like this and realise they’ve taken two steps back.
I knew there was a reason why I was an atheist. Because I’d rather not believe in anything at all than believe in a God who teaches you that love is wrong and hatred is right.
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6:28 pm
Yes, and Leviticus states that a man cant have sex with another man as they would a woman. AND THATS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
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8:53 pm
God bless Jesus, and his hatred for the less fortunate and popular.
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7:36 pm
this show, has saved my life. Glee is an amazing show and It saved my life. Literally. Thanks to the characters of Brittany, Kurt, Blaine, and Santana, I have learned to accept myself. Something that would have never of happened had I not seen thisshow
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7:41 am
Thank you, Stephenson Billings, for reminding me why I’m so glad I’m not a Christian. I can’t imagine living with such hatred and fear burning inside me every day.
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12:29 pm
You can say I am immature, stupid, an idiot or too young to realise. You can try and come up with any insult or put down you can think to try and make my comment seem worthless or irrelevant. Whether that be by picking out spelling mistakes, rebuke me for using slang or say I am going to hell. I do not care. All I have to say to you Mr. Billings is that I am 14 and Glee has stopped me making some of the worst decisions I possibly could of ever made.
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6:25 pm
HEAR, HEAR!!!!!!!! I am with you a hundred and ten percent on that!
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6:07 pm
OK. WOW. This is insane. ITS A TV SHOW!!!!!!! And exposing kids to homosexuality is good because it prepares them for the real world and they dont have to ask why are those men kissing on the mouth.
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AND ANOTHER THING. MY GREAT-UNCLE IS GAY AND HAS BEEN HAPPILY LIVING WITH A PARTNER FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS NOW, AND IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT ALL THE WISE, HELPFUL RABBIS AND CREATIVE, PARTY ANIMAL GAYS(SORRY IF I GENERALIZED ANY PART OF THAT) ARE DESTINED TO BURN IN HELL, THAT’S YOUR OPINION. BUT JEEZ HAVE SOME RESTRAINT,MAN. THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE IN HUMAN PERCEPTION OF RELIGION AND AFTERLIFE.
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7:30 pm
Restrain yourself from the caps lock, my young friend.
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3:40 pm
Wow. Good comeback, my loony friend.
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6:53 pm
Stephenson, just knowing we are in the same genus makes me embarassed to call myself Homo(no pun intended)
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2:48 pm
I laughed at how ridiculous your post was Mr Billings. I pity you. I really do. You are blind to all and have used the Bible and God to preach hate. You of all should know that is not what Christianity is about.
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12:41 am
I’ve learned to vastly ignore the Homosexuals are evil and will be the downfall of mankind claims commonly found by the outspoken Christian minority, so in ignoring there is very little to comment on regarding this article. That said however regarding this:
“Victor Matlin: I really don’t know why he is on this show. He was in Titanic! I find the hugging with his son unseemly.”
I have to admit I was rather amused. It took me the better part of a half hour to figure out whom this man even was in Glee, only after searching the cast list for Titanic did I realize you meant the talented stage and screen actor Victor Garber (whom ironically is a very out homosexual male that first found fame on stage in Godspell) as for his role in Glee he was in exactly one episode and played the father of teacher Will Schuester. After this realization it became very clear you have only seen one episode of this show, it was an early episode and one of the worse ones at that.
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7:52 pm
Well, once again we have the minority of Christians that give the majority if Christians a bad name, please give me a bapible reference that says homosexuality is wrong, when you hypocrite say god loves everyone. Even when this book you mention has been changed so many times as it has passed through time half of it is no longer relevant.
Glee shows teenagers that it is okay to be who they want to be and not conform to stupid religious ideological values. I’ve studied psychology and now have a phd as psychiatrist and would conclude from all your other articles that this is a useless attempt to convince yourself homosexuality is wrong as an outlet to your on homosexual thoughts.
Before I conclude my rant, learn to use correct terminology, “homogay” is not even a word you utter idiots. It’s derogatory, that means demeaning or disrespectful, you clearly need the definitions as you have no actual intelligence whichbyou have proven in this article.
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10:22 pm
Hi there Mr. Billings,
I’m an Australian heterosexual female and although I do not believe in God, I was raised in a Christian household, went to a Baptist high school and attend the most prestigious University in the state. Just because I am a well-informed person does not mean I have all the answers. Neither do you.
Like majority of the responses, I found your article offensive and rude- and I will not bother to tell you the many reasons why, as I’m sure you have had enough criticism. I simply wish to inform you that it is clear you have gotten something wrong if so many people oppose what you’re saying. As well as this, I know many Christian people who have read this article and are embarrassed by your response. Also, please be more respectful to other points of view (for example, atheists and homosexuals), it’s saddening.
If you would like to complain further about sexuality, drugs, abortion and any other real-life teenage issues, then please watch HBO’s True Blood. That should get you excited.
I would prefer if you didn’t comment on my use of the English language or my lack of argument, or anything you can come up with to make yourself more superior as you have with all your other responses.
I’ll get my Christian friends to pray for you!
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3:41 pm
The majority didn’t support what Jesus had to say either, he was crucified and still right. I would say that just because the majority of people here don’t agree with what this man says, doesn’t make them right or him wrong.
This article lines up very much with the word of God, if any are confused about what the word of God is, it’s the Bible. Which is this mans life and his belief system. For so many people to try and act morally superior and say his views are offensive or wrong, well you’re practicing what you preach against. Let me also point out that this article is written on a website called christwire.org, what did you think you would find here?
Bravo, Mr Billings! I applaud your courage and boldness to speak out against evil, and uphold the truth no matter what. It’s a breath of fresh air in a climate where fence riding, and moral relativity are confusing and corrupting people.
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10:24 am
Is homosexuality really evil? I don’t understand how falling in love can be evil. Love is so pure, so beautiful that it should never be critiscised.
Read this http://www.whysanity.net/monos/vendetta3.html
It is not true;a speech from a film. But I think it gets across what I want to say in a poignant way.
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4:03 pm
Homosexuality has nothing to do with falling in love or matters of the heart. Homosexuality is about who you have sex with, not who you love. Gay pride parades pass out condoms, and have workshops for children that teach sexual ideas, not love. They also showcase people who want to change their sexual organs to be another gender entirely, men or women who live as another gender even though they are not.
Homosexuality is a sexual issue, not a love issue.
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These ‘sexual issues’ are not confined to merely homosexuals but hetrosexuals as well. These gay pride marches are helping people accept who they are. Think of it as taste. One may like chocolate another may not. One may like the opposite sex, while others do not. Just as we cannot decide what foods bring joy to us, we cannot deside what sex brings joy to us. You can also not say that every homosexual gives out condoms and teaches. I see much more sexual ideas in the media filled world around us than I do homosexual. And homosexuality is to do with love. Just as hetrosexuals cannot chose who they fall in love with neither can homosexuals.
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9:47 pm
How can you say it’s sexual?
A person in my family is homosexual and has been with the same man for almost ten years. How is that sexual when it’s obviously love?
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5:24 pm
While I’ve read some of your other articles and know of your blant homophobia your problems with Kurt Hummel (Chris Colfer) still shock me!
Kurt (Chris) is – while a little ‘flamy’ – a great example of a homosexual. Kurt (As well as Chris since he is in fact gay) is proud to be gay!I find Kurt to be a wonderful role model for children! He teaches people to be proud of who they are – gay or straight – and not to hide their true self.
I suppose you have something against the ‘It Gets Better’ videos to?
But you know what all of tehse things are doing? They are keeping kids from COMMITING SUICIDE because idiots like YOU hate them for something they can’t control.
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6:20 pm
Okay. What is wrong with being gay? People who are so against gays and lesbians need to wake up and realize that the world is changing! If the author of this post is afraid of today’s children seeing gay people together, well, you’re going to have to keep your kids hidden for eternity. Kurt in Glee is a GREAT- and I emphasize great- role model. He shows teens to stand up for what they believe in and to be yourself- the key to life. People just can’t pretend that gays don’t exist- because they do. You’re way better off educating people about these kinds of differences than trying to shelter them from it.
Also, why is it a problem for you that you that the characters are of different races, religions, and ethnicities? The world is not all white and strictly Christian. You obviously don’t understand what a role model is, considering that inspirational characters like Rachel and Kurt are portrayed negatively in your review!
Finally, these type of things happen in high school. I would know- I’m a high schooler. Kids get pregnant. Kids have sexual feelings for each other. Kids have problems with friends. Kids strive to be popular. And kids are trying to figure out who they are and where they belong in the world. If you ignore all of these problems, news flash, they’re still going to occur. Ignoring things doesn’t make the problem appear.
So maybe I would just consider thinking that this show is positive and deals with real world problems, and I would definitely recommend it to middle and high school students.
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7:09 pm
Madam,
The Bible is clear on what is wrong with being gay.
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Yeah but the bible also says to kill anyone of a different religion, not cut your hair and that people who have flat noses cannot go to an altar of god.
Suck on that bitch !
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9:37 am
OK first of all, I am incredibly comforted by the fact that so many here spoke out against ths article. I was doing research for a college paper when I stumbled acorss this article and given the name of the webpage I thought I new what was coming. But honestly it went well beyond my excpectations of biggottry, false information, and slander.
How can so many christians always preach freedom of religion as one of their highes virtues when they only let it be applied to themselves but no other group. If you believe being gay s a sin due to your faith, ok fine than if you happen to be gay don’t act on it (although I would honestly feel sorry for you having to supress who you are) and if your heterosexual than good for you. But don’t tell others there below you or shamefull, call them names and most of all don’t try and take their rights away!!simply because it goes against your beliefs. AS it has been famously been said: If you don’t believe in gay marriage don’t get one!
This really aplies to the entire subject, because seriously “the gays” don’t want to currpt or convert you they simply want to be able to live a normal live of equal opportunity and that my dear includes propper media represantation as well!
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8:17 pm
Glee is a show that has themes of love, community and acceptance. This is an article full of hate, finger pointing and judgement. This kind of ill researched homophobic propaganda ought to be illegal. It’s so hateful and full of untrue assumptions that it makes me want to cry and not as a gay person, but as a human being. This article is not educational. It’s not going to make a gay person chemically any less gay, it’s just going to hurt people and fuel hatred.
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2:06 am
If God created everything….
Does that mean God created GLEE? O.o
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9:01 pm
And you wonder why people think Christians are dumb, judgemental rednecks…I can understand wanting to inform christian parents of the non-christian themes in this show so that they can decide whether or not to let their children watch it, but do your research and present the truth, not a pile of rubbish that is neither right nor relevant…nor properly written. this piece was just inflammatory, hatefilled and not at all educational for parents wanting to know what they are up against in terms of this show.
Also i found it incredibly rude that you falsely state that the female actors are in their thirties when they are all in their early to mid twenties.
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9:39 pm
Do you realise:
a) Homosexual people do not choose to be homosexual. They don’t sit down and watch a TV show and then think, “Hey, I wanna be gay now.”
b) God accepts everyone. If you were a true Christian you would accept everyone as they are.
Sure, everyone has the right to express their opinions, but when you’re opinions are going against humanity and can potentially hurt people – you don’t have the right.
Be like Jesus and be humble. Take a minute to understand the people around you, rather than judging them.
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10:19 pm
Dear Author,
In my personal opinion you are more of a danger to this society than a homosexual teenager. If you can take the time to write a blog post that in the end compares characters from the tv show Glee to the golden girls there is something that is majorly wrong with the world.
” But I would go even further– the ethical and social risks that Glee poses are so severe that it is unworthy of a home on a national network and should be removed from broadcast. I sincerely believe that no person or organization should continue to finance this show.”
There are a few points I would like to address about this statement.
1)The only social risk Glee poses is that kids spend to much time watching tv already. If I were to watch this tv show it would in no way affect my social life. The fact that there is a homosexual student on this show does not make me want to cop a feel at the cute guy that sits behind me in math.
2)I don’t know if you have heard of that one document called the bill of rights, It’s probably outlawed in what ever conservative cult you live in, but if i’m not mistaken there is a section in said document that states the right of freedom of speech…. Yeah constitutional rights usually have some pull in the mainstream of things.
3)Never begin a sentence with a conjunction. That is just poor grammer, but don’t listen to me I mean you are the one with the cool blog post about Glee.
I think that you set a perfect example here for christwire.org by following christ’s example of loving every individual person for who they are….oh wait you just wrote a blog about all the flaws in the characters of a tv show. Great job at holding up those christian ideals.
“The singing is just too finely polished. The dance numbers are too excruciatingly choreographed. No high school kids can put on these sorts of shows at the spur of a moment. These things require years of gut-wrenching training.”
It’s a good thing that God didn’t create people with exceptional talent, then there would be no need for coaches. Wait he does create amazingly talented people everyday.
“Artie, Wheelchair: I don’t believe he sings. The lip-synching is frighteningly obvious and a sad footnote to this show. Couldn’t they have gotten an actual talented singer for this role? Plus, he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase.”
Very valid point, because he is in a wheelchair he needs a sidekick or a funny catchphrase. Why don’t they give him a clever nickname like “Wheels” or “Cripple” I mean he isn’t a great singer but if he can be the blunt of a few jokes then his role isn’t a complete waste.
Luke 6:31 would be a great passage for you to read and think about. Because if you were in a wheelchair or if you were gay I would treat you as a human being, as an actual person, and I would never make fun of you because you are crippled and not the greatest singer. I would never make fun of you because you think the quarterback of the football team is damn sexy. I would treat you with respect, because that is they way that I would want to be treated.
forever embarrassed by my fellow man,
Jake
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4:24 pm
Holy crap – I just stumbled across this article and yes, I’m late to the game, but after reading this piece of tripe I feel compelled to post.
This “article” is poorly informed, bigoted and just plain wrong. Stephenson Billings – I can’t believe you call yourself an investigative journalist. You should try and report on something objectively – a good journalist would. You should try climbing out from under your caveman neanderthal rock there. Being gay is not a sin, this show wasn’t meant for children and if you educate your children properly, watching a show like this would have no bearing on them other than to preach tolerance and acceptance.
You are not Christian – at all.
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3:49 pm
This is ridiculous.
The writers of this review are clearly homophobic. Glee is a great show, because it supports young gay men who are experiencing a lot of bullying at the moment.
What’s more, this traditional ‘Christian’ attitude that ‘GAY IS SIN’ is not viable anymore – just look the comments on this page, no-one takes you seriously.
YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC AND HAVE NO IDEA OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF A SHOW WHICH SUPPORTS ALL KIND OF STRUGGLING TEENS.
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8:28 pm
Dear Mr Billings,
I think that before you put pen to paper (or fingers to keys) again anytime soon, YOU SHOULD WATCH A FEW EPISODES OF GLEE.
Because the NUMBER ONE message conveyed through this television show, is TO BE ACCEPTING OF ALL PEOPLE, NO MATTER THEIR SKIN COLOUR, RELIGION, SITUATION, BELIEFS, TALENTS, PHYSICAL CONDITION OR SEXUALITY. This is something you could do well to learn!
This article discriminates against people based on their appearance (“Sue Sylvester”), sexuality (“Kurt Hummel”), religion (“Rachel Berry”) and, most shockingly, disability (“Artie Abrams”).
You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself as a Christian and a human being, just as I am certain God is of you.
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4:14 am
I find it quite interesting that if you click on the Stephenson Billings’ name, it directs you to his Facebook page, where if you look under his favorite TV shows, guess which one of them is listed? Jersey Shore. Just wondering, but how is Jersey Shore more Christian than Glee… O.o
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4:58 pm
I love glee! it is one of my favorite tv shows!! and i think that this article is portrayed in a very unchristian way. The bible calls us to love everyone, even our enemies, and at least some of these people are fellow christians!! I am appalled that someone who adveritses themselves as christians are knocking down some of their own!! And when you lump everyone on a tv show as all being gay, when in fact only a select few are, you are insulting their sexual choices!!! I would be insulted if someone called me gay!! This article is appalling and should be taken down if you want to minister to nonchristians, this is only going to turn them away! If a nonchristian comes to this site and sees that you are degrading one people group, they might think that their way of life is next, and turn away from God. Is our ultimate goal not to get people to Christ??By this article, you are hurting my ministry and the ministry of chrisitians around you. I beg you to think about this stuff before you post something again. And I hope through this experience that you grow closer to Christ, as we all strive. I know through this, I have learned a lesson. Thank you.
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