The Nature of Consciousness Vs. Religious concepts
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A certain class of beings is claimed to exist by modern religion. These entities are described as being “purely spiritual.” This means that they are a type of consciousness, a mind, without a body. There are several creatures that have been described this way, among them God, the Devil, Angels, Demons, and even the human mind is explained by religion to exist independently of the brain in the form of the “immortal soul.” Indeed, this class of entities make up the foundations of religious thought. Without them the claims of religion in regards to human existence are baseless. But, consciousness is a specific attribute of individuals with certain, known properties. I will show that the nature of consciousness invalidates any claim to the existence of beings of “pure spirit”
“Purely spiritual,” beings are claimed to be minds without a body, to include the absence of a brain. Charnock writes “If we grant that God is, we must necessarily grant that he cannot be corporeal, because a body is of an imperfect nature. It will appear incredible to any that acknowledge God the first Being and Creator of all things, that he should be a massy, heavy body, and have eyes and ears, feet and hands, as we have (1).” But, can the mind exist without the brain? The facts of the relationship between the mind and the brain are well known and easily demonstrable. What is the effect on the mind if one cuts off the blood supply to the brain, as opposed to if one cuts it off to an arm? In the case of the arm, one does not necessarily lose consciousness, but if the blood supply is cut off to the brain, a loss of consciousness is imminent. This fact demonstrates that the mind is inextricably tied, in fact derived from the brain. What is the effect on the mind if one introduces alcohol or drugs into the brains blood supply? The state of the mind is altered by these purely material elements. What is the effect on consciousness if the brain experiences blunt force trauma? If the arm or leg is destroyed, consciousness remains. Even the heart can be transplanted and yet the person’s consciousness remains. When the brain is damaged, however, consciousness is altered, or goes out of existence all together temporarily, in the case of a “knock-out” or permanently, in the case of death. The idea of a consciousness separated from the brain contradicts observable fact that the mind is dependent on the brain. The result is that any theories that suggest a “purely spiritual” being are ultimately refuted by such facts.
The second point to be made concerning an alleged consciousness with no body is the lack of sensory organs. Imagine a man born with no senses, no touch, no hearing, no sight, no taste and no smell. Would he have a thought? If so, where would it come from? The fact is that he wouldn’t be capable of thought, because to be conscious means to be conscious of something, and the only way to gather material for the mind to process is through the senses. Without them, our minds would be blank. We would possess the means to think, but there would literally be nothing to think about, no way to be conscious of anything at all. Such would be the state of a “purely spiritual” being such as God, angels, demons, or a soul detached from the body. For from being omnipotent, as God is often described, it would not have the ability to know anything at all. Again, the idea of a “purely spiritual” consciousness is incompatible with the facts of reality. A “consciousness” conscious of nothing is a contradiction in terms; if it is conscious of nothing, it cannot be described as conscious. It would be “not conscious.”
In connection with consciousness relying on the senses for it material, there is also the issue of the existential material for consciousness. In addition to having to possess the proper equipment to be conscious, something must also exist to be conscious of. It is claimed by religion that a being of “pure consciousness,” God, created everything: all matter. If such a being existed before matter existed, it stands to reason that there would have been nothing for it to be conscious of, and as discussed in the previous paragraph a consciousness with nothing to be conscious of is a contradiction in terms.
These are three ways in which it can be demonstrated that any “purely spiritual” beings cannot exist. Consciousness depends on the brain to exist; therefore all conscious being must have physical bodies. Consciousness depends on the sensory organs to provide it with the material necessary for its functioning, therefore a being without sensory organs cannot logically be described as conscious and any hypothetical being described as such cannot be said to exist. Further the idea that a being of pure spirit created all matter is impossible, because to be described as conscious, something would have to exist for it to be conscious of in the first place, nullifying the idea that said being created everything which exists. The hypothesis that there exists any beings of “pure consciousness,” which means consciousness separate from matter, contradict known facts of the nature of consciousness, and is therefore invalided by those facts.
(1) Charnock, Stephen and Symington, William. Discourses upon the existence and attributes of God. New York : Robert Carter. 1853http://wedontneedgod.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/the-nature-of-consciousness-vs-religious-concepts/
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5:15 pm
Jimmy:
The mysteries of our Lord God are so great that the simple human mind cannot comprehend them. That is why he asks faith of us, to believe that which we cannot understand. The totality of existence, the birth of the universe, the meaning of life– these things are beyond what a simple scientist can resolve in his laboratory. Amazingly enough, the answer to the question of existence has been right there at our fingertips for thousand of years: The Bible! Get out your copy now! It guides and admonishes us, it inspires and speaks to us. No bunsen burner or monkey bones buried in Africa give us such totality and comprehension. Faith is asked of you, but you receive eternity in return. Is that so hard to understand?
Your essay is pretty well written, certainly it sounds like something a hardworking but confused college student might write. You have definitely jumped into the stew of liberal and atheist ideas out there, with those big chunks of rhetoric! Your most major fault is getting distracted by the idea of consciousness. Consciousness has no relevance for religion or faith. It’s satanic trickery to demand that of human beings or whatever your definition of life is. God created us in His image! We are so fortunate to be chosen for that form, instead of being toad stools or rocks on the side of a highway. Imagine how unhappy you would be if you were a little toad in your scientist’s lab?
God bless!
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6:32 pm
“Amazingly enough, the answer to the question of existence has been right there at our fingertips for thousand of years: The Bible!”
Trusting the bible to provide you with answers to questions of existence is like trusting “The Lord of the Rings” to provide you with an accurate history of Europe.
“No bunsen burner or monkey bones buried in Africa give us such totality and comprehension.”
No, but they give us FACTS and PROOF. Have you ever heard of such words as those? What about EVIDENCE?
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9:17 pm
Some day I would like to read, “The World According to Claire” so I can understand what it is that this young woman actually believes.
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9:28 pm
“Some day I would like to read, “The World According to Claire” so I can understand what it is that this young woman actually believes.”
Is it that difficult to comprehend? I believe in evolution and scientific theories for our existence.
“I believe in logic and statistics, not mysticism and prophesy.” – Thufir Hawat, “Dune”
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9:38 pm
Claire, I meant something more far-ranging and in depth. What does the World mean to Claire? What about Death? What is the point of existence? Do you have any faith whatsoever or do you want to spend your days attacking gentle souls who live in Tennessee and have devoted their lives to God and motivational entertaining for children? Maybe you’ll need to write an article. You seem far more intelligent than the other atheists who comment here.
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9:40 pm
“You seem far more intelligent than the other atheists who comment here.”
Very nice, wanker.
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9:44 pm
Do you think you’re more intelligent than Claire?
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9:56 pm
Please, I’m an EXTREMELY arrogant and egotistical bastard. I think I’m more intelligent than almost everyone.
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9:59 pm
Well, clearly you’re not as intelligent as Abe or myself. But you do get a gold star for persistence.
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10:00 pm
That’s just plain insulting.
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10:03 pm
Don’t be afraid of Abe! He’s as cuddly as a teddy bear.
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10:07 pm
If he’s as cuddly as a bear, it’s definately not of the teddy variety.
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2:07 pm
Claire, you are my hero!
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10:08 pm
Is that meant to be sexual? I don’t think Abe swings that way, sorry.
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10:11 pm
Eh? No I meant of the rip-your-head-off-and-eat-your-face variety. This is the guy who wants to nuke damn near every country on the planet. He’s a complete psychopath.
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7:37 pm
God is apparently perfect, yes? In what way, then, are humans made in his image. Humans are far from perfect.
If we’re perfect why is it that we don’t have this kind of understanding? Why is it that whenever I see someone come across a “wet paint” sign, they touch the paint anyway, just to make sure it’s wet?
Why is it that whenever my mate hears a bird a-chirpin’, he feels the need to whistle back? If human beings are so much like God, why is my friend flirting with a bloody bird?
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9:03 pm
Craig, God made us in his image. We are imperfect, simple copies. He did bless us with Free Will. Sadly, there was something that happened in the Garden of Eden. Woman, a lesser copy of Man made from the rib of Adam, was tempted by the serpent. She went against God and tasted the fruit of the tree of knowledge and then forced Adam to eat. They both committed a terrible sin, and were made evermore imperfect in the eyes of our Lord. Humanity has tried to repent that horrible sin ever since, but the accumulation of that sinning and copying has made us less and less perfect. It’s just like when you make a photocopy and then photocopy that photocopy. Well, if you do this a few times the image you started off with originally will disintegrate.
The bird flirting… Well I just don’t understand you.
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9:10 pm
If we are copies of a copy, so to speak, then our original design means nothing. If this is the case, then why would it be important that we were made in God’s image?
Also, my name’s not Craic damnit!
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9:16 pm
Why would a copy of a copy mean nothing? We are all parts of our parents and grandparents. Doesn’t that mean something? Or do you just want to rebel against everything they’ve worked hard for so you can grow your hair long and hang out in the skateboarder’s park? We are still modeled in God’s image, no matter how imperfect we are. We can still strive to be the best human beings we can be in His eyes. In our afterlife, we return to God, to bask in his glow for eternity (that is, if we’re good people of faith and not reckless, lusty heathens).
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9:25 pm
A copy of a copy means nothing because with each copy that gets made, it deviates more from the original. To use your photocopier analogy, the first copy is slightly lower quality than the original. A copy of this copy would then be slightly lower quality than that and so on and so forth.
“We can still strive to be the best human beings we can be in His eyes”
We COULD, but how about striving to be the best human beings we can be in our own right. Doing it to appease a deity in exchange for an eternal afterlife errodes your sense of morality because it’s a very selfish motive. It means you’re only doing anything that can be considered morally right because of what you’re getting out of it.
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9:43 pm
If only living a life of faith was something selfish! No, abandoning God and living in some nonstop orgy life full of marijuana and cheap beer, always spending your salary on tight new clothes and staying up til 5am on weekends to be with boys– that’s selfish! It takes faith and sacrifice to live a good life. To not give in to temptation, to live an austere and difficult life now with the hope that God will reward you in the afterlife. That’s not selfish, it’s intelligent.
And I’m not buying this copy of a copy ain’t worth nuthin’ idea. We still contain the original seed of inspiration, the joy and wisdom of God in us.
I really hope you don’t approach life with such hopelessness. You can’t possibly believe you understand everything about life. You must admit there is much beyond human comprehension.
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9:54 pm
“If only living a life of faith was something selfish”
I don’t think the ideal is selfish (well, the ideal to do with equality and love for all of mankind), but I do think the motive is selfish. I try to do my best for people by pragmatic, intelligent application to the situation wherein I try not to be the cause of any human suffering because I don’t want to be the cause of any. You’ll notice that’s a very different motive from “Because a voice in the wind told me I’ll burn for all eternity If I DON’T do right by people”
“You can’t possibly believe you understand everything about life. You must admit there is much beyond human comprehension.”
True, I do admit there is likely much beyond human comprehension and I don’t believe that I know everything about life. I’ll give you that one.
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9:57 pm
Then why must you make me suffer every day accusing me of being a terrible pedophile?
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9:59 pm
What? Me personally?
Probably because It’s likely true.
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10:01 pm
I am the most heterosexual guy I know. 200% !
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9:26 pm
“Woman, a lesser copy of Man made from the rib of Adam”
Women are not inferior to men, you sexist fuck, and we sure as hell didn’t come from a goddamn rib! And don’t give me your biblical bullshit, because it’s nothing but a fairy tale written by a bunch of stoned-out nomads two thousand years ago.
“She went against God and tasted the fruit of the tree of knowledge and then forced Adam to eat.”
Oh really? I don’t recall the bible ever mentioning that Eve force-fed Adam the apple, that she sat on his chest, pried his mouth open, and shoved it down his throat (although that would have been hilarious).
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10:03 pm
Well that’s a different argument altogether.
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5:21 pm
wow Billing I almost agree with you But you started Insulting Him even Know Freedom of speech sometimes people absue of it and its why censorship is needed
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5:41 pm
I am happy that you have come close to agreeing with me. This is exciting news! However, I should note that I didn’t mean to be insulting at all, I was simply trying to guide this young man with a firm hand. Yes, I do have an intellectual side. Sometimes you crazy kids here don’t appreciate that.
As for censorship, I don’t have the slightest idea how that plays into this discussion. This boy certainly isn’t Galileo.
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6:05 pm
Mr. Billings,
Perhaps when you can address me in a professional and respectful manner I will read your comment. Until that time, not a chance. I don’t make terms with rudeness.
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6:19 pm
If you feel too overwhelmed and upset to stand up to my logic then so be it. You are an atheist and avowed anti-Christian posting on a Christian website in case you’re not aware.
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7:06 pm
I don’t agree with the ‘purely spiritual’ = ‘consciousness’ idea. They’re very different concepts. Consciousness has to do with the functioning of the brain that gives a person a sense of self. ‘Spiritual’ means several things. For humans, it can be defined as the part of us that lives after death, in other words the soul. It can also mean how we connect to God while we live on earth. We can nurture and grow our souls by forming a close bond through faith. Our souls can also revive us when our bodies fail.
For God himself, ‘spirit’ may loosely define his existence. Yet he is infinite and has the power to be manifested physically. These instances do not refute the ‘spirit’ side of him, but show how the spirit is greater than the physical. God’s spirit is so powerful it can command the things that are ‘corporeal’ to us. The Bible makes it clear that the existence of God is not something that humans will be able to grasp without faith. The man you quote about God being ‘massy with hands and feet’ is being illogical. If God chose to be physical, he would by definition be perfect. Just because something is physical does not make it imperfect by nature. Yes humans are imperfect, they have fallen from grace but not all physical things are imperfect. That is a clear misreading of the Bible.
Satan is in no way ‘spiritual’ or simply consciousness. Although he is a former angel, he is a physical being. A creature who is manifested in the serpent but also in the sum of human suffering. You are mixing up ideas there.
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9:34 pm
“In our afterlife, we return to God, to bask in his glow for eternity (that is, if we’re good people of faith and not reckless, lusty heathens).”
Why are human beings so afraid of death? I mean, sure, I’m afraid of death, but not to the extent that I refuse to accept what happens to us afterwards (that we simply cease to be) and instead try to console myself with fairy tales of a land up in the clouds with unicorns, Jesus, and talking walnuts.
I mean heck, even Star Wars makes more sense when it comes to death – that we transform into the Force.
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9:48 pm
When you’re as old as I am you get very afraid of death, even though you hope that the St. Peter has you on the guest list and the pearly gates will open up.
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10:26 pm
“Claire, I meant something more far-ranging and in depth. What does the World mean to Claire? What about Death? What is the point of existence?”
I’ve been asking philosophical questions such as those for years, and they have actually caused a great deal of anxiety for me. I’ve had bad anxiety my whole life and dwelling too much on philosophical questions such as the meaning of existence has given me bad panic attacks in the past. Don’t ask me why. Let’s just say that the hypnotherapist didn’t help me so I’ve been seeing a psychologist since I was 15.
“Do you have any faith whatsoever or do you want to spend your days attacking gentle souls who live in Tennessee and have devoted their lives to God and motivational entertaining for children?”
I have faith in science and proven facts. And in South Park.
“Maybe you’ll need to write an article. You seem far more intelligent than the other atheists who comment here.”
I’m “far more intelligent”? Oh, but I’m just a woman! *swoon* According to you, that means I’m inferior. So I couldn’t possibly write an article! Quick, somebody get me the smelling salts, just the idea of intelligent thought makes me faint!
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11:17 pm
Anxiety is no fun and completely not worth it. In the end you are what you are, you can’t help but be anything other than that. Maybe you should try knitting or babysitting? They can help distract you until the inevitable stew of death sinks your last crouton of life.
As for your intelligence, don’t get carried away. Look at the specimens here you’re compared against! Jazzy, Millennium, Woody, Craic, Fake Adam… If you don’t count the writers, the visitors to this website couldn’t collectively make a ham and cheese omelette with a side of hashbrowns and toast so that everything is done at the same time, nice and warm and not burned at all.
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3:13 am
hey look who’s back insulting eberyone whille he storkes his own ego.
allright let’s give it a go.
personally i’ll agree that claire is far better than me at least in the art of formulating her openion in much better manner than me. heck she might even be smarter than me overall.
however juding people from their abilty to form together an argument is ludocris. my knowledge and willingness to understand god has exactly what to do with my abilty to not burn food?
judging from you idea of how you can judge people on their argumentation you completle lack of it should indicate that you have somebody beside you helping you breathe as you must be far too stupid to do that by yourself. but no i’m not going to acuse you of that. because i’m above such retardet claims. if you are willing to start an argument beased on logic and the proper form of argumentation sure feel free we’ll listen. however proveing you are right by pointing out you have proven you are right when you pointed out you were right when you… yeah i guess you know where i’m going with this, proves nothing more than you have concluded that you are right and as such it’s not worth discusing points of view with you rather i’ll use my time makeing as many people as posible agree with me rather than you. i know i’ll never make you join my team as you’d call it. the thing is you might actually make me join your’s….if you can logically prove i have a reason to.
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10:09 am
“Maybe you should try knitting or babysitting?”
Not all females enjoy knitting or babysitting. Knitting is boring as fuck and babies and small children are annoying as fuck. ‘Nuff said.
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12:23 pm
You may want to get your hormones checked.
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1:26 pm
“You may want to get your hormones checked.”
Why do you think it’s a hormonal problem? After all, according to you, people “choose” to be gay, as opposed to being born gay or developing some sort of hormonal imbalance. If that’s the case, isn’t it possible that I “chose” to not be a maternal type? But yes, I had my hormones checked when I was 13 due to the fact that I was bleeding to death, and as it turns out, I have more testosterone than the average female. BEFORE you go and try to claim that I’m really a dude, I ALSO have too much estrogen. To correct my hormones and thus control my bleeding problem, I’ve been on OCPs since that age.
But I repeat: I do not like children, and it has little to do with hormones. Just because someone has estrogen doesn’t mean that they’ll be drawn to children. I mean, seriously, screaming, kicking, whining creatures that only know how to eat and shit just aren’t my cup of tea. You seem to forget that we’re much more evolved than apes are; we primarily let our brains guide us, not our hormones. It’s my brain, not my hormones, that’s telling me that babies are disgusting, annoying creatures that I want nothing to do with.
I do, however, love puppies and kittens. Hand me a two month old kitten and I’ll be all over the poor little thing, baby-talking it, rubbing its belly, giving it kisses. My brain essentially turns to mush when I see a kitten or puppy. But a large part of that is because puppies and kittens start to become self-sufficient at several weeks of age. Once they can go to the bathroom on their own (mom no longer has to manually stimulate their genitalia) they learn when to go and where to go, and you don’t have to bother with disgusting, shit-filled diapers or with wiping their asses.
I’m sure that you would feel similarly about babies if YOU were the one to have to do the work involved. But no, you think babies are awesome, because you’re a chauvinistic pig who thinks that changing diapers, feeding, and getting up in the middle of the night is solely the mother’s responsibility.
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4:26 pm
I figured as much, that’s why I suggested that you have them checked (happy to know you’ve long had the issue addressed). And, yes, it is actually related to lower sexual-desire and not a strong 18-25 urge to be with child.
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4:51 pm
“I figured as much, that’s why I suggested that you have them checked (happy to know you’ve long had the issue addressed).”
I’d prefer that instead of you being “happy” about my reproductive health, that you keep your nose out of it. I don’t need some sexist creep on the internet claiming to give a rats ass about my health, especially when it’s my reproductive health.
“And, yes, it is actually related to lower sexual-desire and not a strong 18-25 urge to be with child.”
Yes, but there is also a largely psychological and societal component to not having a “strong 18-25 urge to be with child”. If all reproductively and hormonally healthy 18-25 year-olds have a “strong 18-25 urge to be with child” then why do so many of them use condoms, other forms of birth control, and get abortions?
Christian conservative male-supremacists such as yourself need to just keep their noses out of women’s reproductive systems.
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1:17 am
Hey, I was just trying to help you out and am happy to know that you are alright.
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5:44 am
adam did you just apologise for the first time? good on you for once use your common sense for once mate please i know the why you act isn’t what you truly are but i know your not really a conservative christian to begin with been telling you that for ages stop pissing around and be a normal person again
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2:55 pm
“Hey, I was just trying to help you out and am happy to know that you are alright.”
As I said before, Christian conservative male-supremacists who want nothing other than to keep women barefoot and pregnant have no business even inquiring about a female’s reproductive health.
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4:04 pm
I would highly promote shoes just for the health benefits alone. Also, I find it highly hurtful that you see me as a ‘male-supremacist’ who does not respect women. Even as such, I’m just glad to know that you’ve addressed the issue. That’s all and it makes me happy that you’re okay.
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7:59 pm
“Also, I find it highly hurtful that you see me as a ‘male-supremacist’ who does not respect women.”
You believe that a woman’s duty in life is to pop out babies. You believe that the husband is the head of the household, and that, as such, he has the right to hit his wife if she so much as lifts her finger. You believe that the father is responsible for all of a baby’s genetic material and that the mother is essentially just an incubator. You buy into the biblical bullshit that women were made lesser than man, that we came from a man’s goddamned rib. You believe that we are mentally deficient, and, on multiple occasions, have accused me of plagiarism simply because my “weak, female brain” cannot possibly put together a coherent article. You’ve compared women to children.
“There is nothing violent about loving discipline. The Bible says if you spare the rod, you spoil the child. And we all know wife’s are not much more than children, needing gentle prodding to keep them in line.”
“There is a reason things have gotten worse in America since the time women have been allowed to get out of line at home.”
“If she gets out of line, however, you may chastise your wife just so natural order is maintained in your house. That’s where a little loving tap, like you’d do a toddler who tried to reach for an electrical outlet comes into play. There is a world of difference in teaching your wife her boundaries and what Brown and all of his little rapping mongrel buddies do to their girlfriends of the month.”
“What it shows is an innate human instinct to teach and instruct, and a husband is responsible for teaching and instructing his family; from his wife to his children.”
“You just proved the article’s point. If Adam had went to Eve and just said “No” when she brought the apple, we would not have sin. Even something as horrible as sexual attacks would not have taken pl.ace. It’s all due to Eve. Adam thought he could trust her, and she lead him to sin as well. Now we all suffer. So, yes, a man needs to keep a woman in place. Adam failed to do that and look where it got us.”
“Jesus is not a woman either, just like his Heavenly FATHER. God is a man. Deal with it, rib.”
“Like a typical woman, Eve could not follow rules and caused all of humanity to sin by eating the fruits of the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and knowledge of evil.”
“It is a woman’s honor and unique privilege to give sons to her husband. I am so happy that we have women to nurture and raise families, as nature intended, and it is indeed a very beautiful thing that is unique to the gentler of the species.” (notice how you wrote SONS, instead of CHILDREN)
“Women are living incubator, not robots.”
“Women are blessed with the responsibility of getting to house the son’s of man, and raise the family too. It’s good to see you recognize natural order.”
“I saw one of the women creatures wearing pants and tie today, bossing around an office full of men. Then people go and question why are world is falling apart. How can we stand strong when we’re turning natural order upside down.”
“Indeed, her core value is dedication to keeping the kitchen spotless and her husband’s appetite well satiated.”
This is EVIDENCE that you’re a chauvinistic, male-supremacist pig. I would provide more quotes, but I have drug formularies to work on.
“Even as such, I’m just glad to know that you’ve addressed the issue. That’s all and it makes me happy that you’re okay.”
How many times do I need to bash it into your skull? I don’t want you to be “happy” about my health. It’s my health, and my body, therefore I get to choose who gets to give a damn about it, and you’re one of the people who I DON’T want to give a damn about it.
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8:02 pm
Claire, personal insults don’t really contribute anything to the conversation here. I think you owe Adam an apology.
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8:12 pm
Where did I personally insult Adam? He’s the one insulting the entire female gender for claiming to not be a sexist bastard, when the evidence is right there that he is, then having the audacity to pretend that he gives a flying fuck about my reproductive system.
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8:22 pm
Apologizing is the mature and responsible thing to do here, Claire.
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8:36 pm
As usual you avoid the question. Once more: how did I personally insult Adam?
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11:09 am
Steph your mum has cancer.
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1:36 pm
So when are you going to apologise to everyone you insulted over this site? I just read a comment of yours where you called Woody a “little freak”, “lazy”, “incompetent”, a “whining abomination”, and a “sick human being”. Are you going to apologise to him or are you far too high and mighty to show some common coutesy to us mere mortals?
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6:17 pm
‘Course, we can all keep our minds off food for five minutes.
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10:28 pm
“Well, clearly you’re not as intelligent as Abe or myself. But you do get a gold star for persistence.”
You think Abe is intelligent? ABE??? He doesn’t understand the concept of using “woman” for singular and “women” for plural! Oh, and nice job tooting your own horn, Billings. Mr. Humble you are not, despite what you may claim.
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10:33 pm
“If only living a life of faith was something selfish! No, abandoning God and living in some nonstop orgy life full of marijuana and cheap beer, always spending your salary on tight new clothes and staying up til 5am on weekends to be with boys– that’s selfish!”
Well would you look at that, Mr. “I eat two cheeseburgers with onions for one meal” accusing other people of being selfish! Take a look in the mirror, piggy, and you’ll see yourself for the hypocrite that you are!
“To not give in to temptation”
If eating two cheeseburgers during a single meal isn’t giving into temptation, I don’t know what is.
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11:19 pm
I am doing my part to support the US economy by being a patriotic consumer who buys domestic meat and enjoys it.
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10:12 am
“I am doing my part to support the US economy by being a patriotic consumer who buys domestic meat and enjoys it.”
Trying to justify your piggishness, I see? Don’t even bother. You’re a greedy bastard and everyone knows it.
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10:34 pm
“I am the most heterosexual guy I know. 200% !”
So then why aren’t you crankin’ out kids?
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11:02 pm
Well if you must know I’ve been too busy, plus I just haven’t met the right woman yet.
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3:19 am
“Then why must you make me suffer every day accusing me of being a terrible pedophile?”
you really still wonder about this?
let me then explain it once AGAIN. it’s for the same reason you feel the need to make us suffer…wait no that’s not the word…sorry i ment annoy us by accuseing us of being horrible devil worshipers just because we don’t follow you stupid way of life. here’s a tip i have given a million times stolen from the bible itself. treat others as you wish to be treated yourself. be the good example. if you don’t go on rageing about us maybe we won’t be inclinded to fight back.
but hey maybe i’m just deludeing myself and you have somehow atanined some kind of superior magical divine knowledge you can’t share with us lesser beings. because the bullshit you are shareing right now isn’t worth anything and if the god you follow truly is worthy of any praise you’ll know that.
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8:33 am
Clearly the comments here are a win for Christ. Hip Hip Hooray for Jesus! The original writer completely wimped out on this one.
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