Should Transgender or Transsexual People Be Allowed to Marry?
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Gays always love to pretend that they are in some struggle for equality, trying to convince non-gays to join their cause based on faulty notions such as ‘genetics’ or ‘condition’, that do not apply to gays.
The gay agenda has become increasingly belligerent, manipulative and aggressive. Gays wish to force their lifestyle upon our society and children. Gays wish to make it seem that society at large thinks their forceful behavior is acceptable, and actively recruit others to help them manipulate scientific polls, created to show that gays are not accepted and America stands against gay marriage.
It is one thing for people in general society to fall for such rhetoric and clap-trap, but for scientists to fall for this is completely absurd. Scientists should understand that being gay is not a genetic condition that has been proved in any primary journal study of significant confidence.
It is an offense to true interest groups who have had to gain Civil Rights. Gays try to liken themselves to the Afr0-Americans, who came to this country as slaves and were mistreated for hundreds of years, due to their skin color.
Afro-Americans are given equal rights because their skin color is genetic. It is not grounds for treating them differently, for they are people just like anyone else. Their skin color does not obscure their right to live a full life of joy and happiness. Afro-Americans tend to have a higher amount of melanin in their skin, in addition to several other phenotypic traits resultant to the genetic product of more than ten specific coding alleles.
Women, by a normative genetic means, are of sexual chromosome make-up XX, even though some women are XY and beyond. This is fine. Women have been mistreated in society, due to their physiological appearance. Their oppression was based on a genetic condition, and again, this is not right as it questions the authority of nature and therefore God himself.
In politics and ensuring rights, we must make sure that Civil Rights are awarded based upon merit. Gays try to link themselves to the ideas of Civil Rights for minorities who suffer from genetic conditions historically out of the norm, and therefore, are oppressed.
Gays are not gay due to genetics; gays are gay due to choice. The gay’s choice to be perverted may be rooted in psychological trauma or gender confusion, from an unstable childhood or lack of self-identity. Gays may choose to be gay due to having a malicious heart and a self-destructive nature. Due to their self-loathing, they have no bottom line and enjoy corrupting the most innocent of everyone, children.
Some gays have such issues with self-identity, that they try to ‘switch’ their genders in secret, calling themselves made-up things like ‘transgender’ or ‘transsexual’, as if their choice to mutilate their bodies and adorn themselves in the socially acceptable attire of the opposing gender can somehow undo their baseline genetic code.
Gays must be taught to choose that their lifestyle and desire is not normal. Gays must accept that a man’s body is designed to mate with a woman. A woman’s body is designed to mate with a man. This is normal and based on our bauplan, the very essence of our species, we are meant to do.
What is the pulse of America? Gays are trying to make the legalization of their “right” to marriage an issue. The “trans” gays are taking it a step-up, trying to get their official gender denomination changed, so that society is forced to see them as “female” (even though genetically a male) and allow them to marry, against our federal law.
Does the heart of America beat true and moral, or is it now corrupt. Vote in the poll, above. Let it be known if we stand as One Nation, Under God, as it stated in the oath every American must take and believe in. Or are we a modern day Sodom, where we will let gays run rampant, harming our society and children, blurring the line between decency and morality forevermore.
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Author: Scott Grunhard
Scott Grunhard is a law student and actively advocates for the restoration of America's Godly heritage and Christian foundation of government. Read more about how you can help at Godlyheritage.org
1:23 pm
Gays have no right.
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1:32 pm
Way to show the love that Christ was talking about.
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3:43 pm
Christians has no right. period
In other word for each Gay you kill hate abuse harass
we will do the same with christians
You wanna play On the same pattern ?
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8:16 pm
I’m fascinated by your argument. I had never thought about choosing my sexuality. So when exactly did you choose to be straight? If it’s a choice than there’s a possibility for you to choose to be gay. Have you really thought about being gay and then decided it wasn’t for you?
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4:20 pm
Straight people against Gays need a reality check for themselves. Maybe they’re Gay? Reminds me of my childhood when little boys picked on little girls because they had a crush. Being mean to people we REALLY like is human nature, I guess?
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12:46 pm
1) Funny that you write this article with the bible in mind when it says in there to love thy neighbor. That doesn’t JUST mean the person living next to you. I find this article highly ignorant, bigoted, and frankly if you’re saying that ‘we’ don’t exist then you have another thing coming being the fact that the Treaty of Tripoli of 1792 was signed by our forefathers STATING that this country was not founded upon the Christian Religion. So right there if you say that we have no rights to marry according to your lord your ‘God’, then you shouldn’t have the right to vote being that there is something as simple as separation of Church and State. The Treaty of Tripoli of 1792 is a prime example of this. If you don’t like gay marriages or transept marriages, don’t perform them. Simple?
2) If you’re trying to judge, then for shame indeed for it says in Matthew 7:1-4 not to and that salvation is relative to the person Philippians 2:12. If you’re going to involve Christianity then I suggest you promote the New Age religions, the other Judaic and Abrahamic Religions, and Atheism as well being the fact that this country was founded upon the freedom to express one’s self and the freedom to practice what religion we so choose. Gays are abominations in the Bible? Okay. They’re not in Pantheism. They’re not in Taoism. They’re not in Buddhism. They’re not in many Pagan religions and they’re not in Atheism. This is the land of equality. Not the land of Christ and oppression.
3) You’re using religion as a way to save face trying to indoctrinate people on fear. If you look at the etymological term of Hell it’s Scandinavian for a place where people didn’t die a warrior went to instead of Val Halla. It’s paradise in the sense that they didn’t die in the glories of battle. Those that did were up with the norse gods in the sense that they themselves became that with the divine beings. So if you want to try and scare me with a term that came after the Norse… Go ahead and try. It’s hilarious how you evangelical fundamentalist Christians grasp at straws trying to put other people down because you’re offended about two people of the same gender loving each other. Heaven forbid!
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1:35 pm
Before anyone even starts, Christ said nothing about allowing gay marriage. The Bible forbids it. Our federal government has the Marriage Act, which forbids it.
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1:45 pm
He didn’t say anything about not allowing it either, or anything about black people, or Christians, or technology, or America, or government, and so on. You pick one thing, you have to go with all of it or else admit there are faults.
Then again, you’re retarded and think Jesus was white, so it’s not surprising you only believe what you want to.
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4:55 am
Ever touched a football? Eaten shellfish?
Or were you busy selling your daughters into slavery?
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6:59 am
The Bible doesn’t say anything about dinosaurs, either.
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1:49 pm
I really like that even within your very own website, you can only garner 61% of the vote. Face it, you are a wolf in sheep’s clothing and all you do is preach the devil’s form of hate. Jesus himself would be ashamed of you, your website and your rants. Remember, he professed nothing but acceptance and love. By your standards, he would have picked up a stone and hurled it at Mary Magdeline with the others. Shame on you!
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1:52 pm
By the way, The W Hotel is one of the greatest gay run and managed hotel chains in the world. I see you don’t have a problem with them advertising and receiving money from them to pedal you hateful ways.
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7:10 pm
Good grief, I wish someone had told me that before! I thought they were affiliated with George W. I do hope they have been changing the sheets.
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2:08 pm
Christ is the Son of God, and all through the Bible — Genesis through Revelation — we see that time and time again, the Word of God says gays are an offense. God is offended by gays and therefore Christ is offended by these gay transgenders.
What is really sick here is how liberals try to twist this issue, and make it seem that these people are this way due to genetics. It is a choice or psychological condition from external influence or trauma.
Gays are not condoned by the Bible. There is a federal law protecting against gay marriage. Gays have no more natural, inherent rights than does a criminal who ‘chooses’ to commit crime.
There is no criminal gene and there is no gay gene. Simple as. You cannot call wanting to do something a genetic condition.
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3:43 pm
//Christ is the Son of God, and all through the Bible — Genesis through Revelation — we see that time and time again, the Word of God says gays are an offense. God is offended by gays and therefore Christ is offended by these gay transgenders.//
The Bible was written by man, man can err, therefore, the Bible can be wrong. Not only that, why would God be offended at something HE made?
//What is really sick here is how liberals try to twist this issue, and make it seem that these people are this way due to genetics. It is a choice or psychological condition from external influence or trauma.//
You’re the one hating on the creations of your Creator. Kinda sounds like you’re spitting in his face by saying that only your group should exist and that you deny the group that His son was apart of.
//Gays are not condoned by the Bible. There is a federal law protecting against gay marriage. Gays have no more natural, inherent rights than does a criminal who ‘chooses’ to commit crime.//
And the federal law is starting to crumble with that, by allowing gay people to marry. Not only that, comparing a homosexual to a criminal is a mighty ballsy move, especially for someone who wants to murder cats for fun.
//There is no criminal gene and there is no gay gene. Simple as. You cannot call wanting to do something a genetic condition.//
There’s also no stupid gene yet we have people like you that run around. Not only that, you like to flip-flop back and forth between if there’s a gay gene or not just to be able to bitch about it.
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6:58 am
“Christ is the Son of God, and all through the Bible — Genesis through Revelation… ”
You’re a fucking poser, you’re not a Christian!
Jesus is part of the New Testament, Genesis is part of the Old. He wasn’t in both testaments…
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10:57 am
The Comedian 3 – Adam Nelson 0
The Comedian Wins
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2:22 pm
Actually, Jesus is God according to the Trinity, so yes, He is in both testaments. That said, I believe God/Jesus is ashamed of His children for all the hatred going on here. The bible does not condone homosexuality, sure, but it also does not condone sex before marriage, divorce, storing up riches for ourselves, disobeying our parents(a crime punishable by death in the Old Test!)…man, the list could go on and on. The point is, we’re ALL sinners, all of us fall short of the glory of God, but we are forgiven if we just accept His grace.
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6:29 pm
I agree with you, Tracy! Jesus teaches us to love everyone! This is so insulting we Christians are preaching such hate! Jesus would be sad to read the responses on here! You are supposed to show how loving you are and invite others to trust Jesus! If were not a Christian already and I read these comments, I would not want to be apart of Christianity. So many non-believers are turned away from Jesus because of the same hatred that is displayed right here! Most of the commentators speak as if they are experts in the field of psychology, human development and medicine! What credibility, education or research have they done to make opinions seem like facts. I have a degree in psychology, human development and I am a credentialed counselor and psychologist and I am also a Christian! By the way, I never chose to be straight either, so how is it that gay people somehow choose? Who would want to choose a lifestyle that people are going to hate you and treat you like a criminal? I believe that the people who believe it is a choice are actually secretly gay themselves and chose to hide those feelings. I never chose to have a crush on anyone! It was a involuntary feeling.
You need to go back to your Bible and read what Jesus said. It’s about others! You are in this world to serve others for Jesus. Everything you do should glorify Him! Is it glorifying to speak about hatred and acting as if you are better than other people? Is it glorifying to judge others? NO! Ask yourself, what would Jesus do? Jesus would be hanging out with gay people, DUH! Gay people don’t even know that I am Christian, because they assume all Christians hate them! That is a SHAME! Then they ask me, “Why are you so different?” I tell them, “because Jesus taught me to love people!”
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Who still says Afo-American. This article is a huge joke. I really thought that is was to be sarcastically funny. SAD
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1:26 am
adam, are you really that dumb?
The Comedian was quoting YOUR original post with that “Christ is the Son of God, and all through the Bible — Genesis through Revelation” line.
so, are you really saying that YOUR not a christian? and that YOU don’t understand the difference between the old and new testaments?
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1:36 am
Actually, that’s ‘manhunt’ Adam talking to Complete Douche-bag Adam. Douche-bag made a reference to the Old Testament and manhunt-Adam called him out on it and whatnot.
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1:38 am
Jordan : just saying there is 2 different ( if not 3 ) adam Nelson one would actually wnat to destroy everything and everyone
and other who actually fight against such destruction
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3:12 am
How can you sit there and tell me that people wake up in the morning and decide ‘Hey, I want everyone to hate me and single me out and I really just feel like I want to be picked on and hated on by all of the Christians. I think I’ll be gay.’ It makes no sense. No sense at all. Why would a person chose to be the one no one likes and everyone’s mean to? Doesn’t everyone feel the need for acceptance and love? Yes. Does anyone want to feel hated and unaccepted? No. Why would someone chose that for themselves? They wouldn’t. Please, I ask you to stop being so close-minded and look at things from a logical point of view.
p.s.- For a Christian website, it sure does promote a lot of hate…
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9:27 am
Gays and transgenders are two entirely different things. You are as stupid as the guy writing this blog. I don’t even know where to begin with either of you, but I know I don’t need to. Studies show that people who are bigoted and hate-filled die younger of things like heart disease and strokes, so you just keep on hating, you will get what you deserve. Funny how that sounds like karma, or reaping what you sow.
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2:18 pm
Oath? What oath? Natural-born citizens don’t take an oath and the oath that naturalized citizens take says nothing about God, except the implorative, “so helo me God,” which may be omitted if the citizen-to-be objects.
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3:52 pm
lol every american must take how many of you already took this Oath ??
You don’t even take it when you enter in USA to become a citizen ( would be mostly illegal) not even in army the Only place you take an Oath is to become President and Vice president
and yet there is Nothing about God its said to protect the citizen of USA and to fight for the justice
and there is also NOTHING in the constitution ( and don’t go thats way with me I have a weapon of mass destruction thats is about a 17 yo girl)
The bible is No excuse in supreme court and actually useless
as for Federal Law they can be changed, see even Bush changed the law so Many time
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4:09 pm
“Some gays have such issues with self-identity, that they try to ’switch’ their genders in secret, calling themselves made-up things like ‘transgender’ or ‘transsexual’, as if their choice to mutilate their bodies and adorn themselves in the socially acceptable attire of the opposing gender can somehow undo their baseline genetic code.”
Your logic is flawed here. According to you, all transsexual women are really gay men who are confused, and all lesbians are biologically female. Where does that leave me?
As a butch lesbian, who once was male, I submit that your logic is flawed, because by condemning my gay identity as a choice (which it’s not) and condemning my transsexual identity as confusion (which it isn’t) you’ve basically said I’m a straight male, rather than a gay woman. But according to you, it’s cool if I’m a straight male.
So I’ll just take my butch self and keep on trucking and say “nah, it’s cool, ChristWire said it’s okay for me to be a lesbian.”
Thanks! You lot are great.
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4:41 pm
funny.
try to replace “gays” and “homosexuals” with “christians” and the article becomes a lot more cohenrent.
why do you force yourself on us like we acsept you as normal. ´homosexuals are more normal than christians. wanna prove me wrong? show me one case of christianity that does not come from teaching. prefrebly in an animal as well.
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5:20 pm
This is a bunch of bullshit. I feel sad for people who read this and actually believe it.
“Gays wish to force their lifestyle upon our society and children.” Do the people reading this not understand that 1) such a disgusting thing to say is not true in any way, and 2) it is literally impossible to prove such a superfluous claim.
People need to recognize brainwashing and opinions from fact. Just because you want to hear something doesn’t make it true. Jesus would be ashamed of the hatred expressed here, both in the article and in the comments.
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7:20 pm
“Should Transgender or Transsexual People Be Allowed to Marry?”
Are you implying that you “Conservatives” are “allowing” them to marry? You don’t hold the power to “allow” anyone to do anything. Should we also be talking about how our Christian society “allows” divorces? Whoever titled this article should know better.
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9:22 pm
Yes. Yes they should be able to marry. If Britney Spears can marry, then should anyone. Except maybe Republicans. They’re the ones always getting caught with the wide stance those dirty bathrooms.
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11:31 pm
Ok, so, is this article actually intended to be a parody? People don’t actually beleive this garbage do they?
This just amazes me. I am a therapist, I happen to be gay, and I also have a lot of transgender clients that I help with their transition.
I am so disheartened to see that people STILL think this way. This “article” that tries to come across to inform is nothing but pure hate. I just don’t understand why anyone would ever think people choose to be gay. Why would I choose to make so much harder on myself?
And by the way, being transgender does not mean one is gay. Those often are very different things. Which, by the way, just goes to show how uninformed the “author” is.
I also liked what one person commented about trans people “being allowed”? Who cares what this person thinks should be allowed anyway? What makes you so important that you get to decide what is allowed? Maybe it’s because you can thump a bible loud enough for people to hear?
Wow.
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11:48 pm
Ha. “Yes” has taken the lead over “herp derp hate”. Suck it.
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12:05 am
Your poll shows me that you know absolutely *nothing* about the story of Sodom (which of course makes sense, seeing as the entirety of this post shows that you know nothing about anything really). Among other things, it is incredibly ignorant to think that Sodom was destroyed for homosexuality. What we know about Sodom we know because the prophet Ezekiel wrote about it (particularly in verses 49 & 50) — and he mentions *nothing* about homosexuality. Furthermore, the Bible stresses truth, truthfulness and honesty irrefutably more than it mentions anything that could even *possibly* be viewed as anti-homosexual — and your article here is littered with unabashed propaganda and bold-faced lies. Not to mention, the article title implies that it might actually have something to do with transgender individuals, but goes on to speak about homosexual individuals…? Not even CLOSE to the same ballpark. I’m just really confused because, at best, this is bad writing. Honestly, I couldn’t even get through the whole article beginning to end without having to stop and rack my brain as to what you’re trying to say. This doesn’t even read like you have a grasp on the English language — how then could you claim to have a grasp on the will of God?
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12:20 am
“One nation under God” eh? I seem recall that “under God” bit was not a part of the original Pledge of Allegiance, but rather added by conservative nutzos during the McCarthy years when they were trying to persecute people with alternate political and religious beliefs.
As I seem to recall, and please *do* correct me if I’m wrong, but this country’s constitution is supposed to be based on a separation of church and state. Our founding fathers came to America because they were fleeing from religious persecution. That being said, you are trying to make your personal morals and your personal religious beliefs into state law, which is not legal according to our constitution. You have no authority to push *your* agenda on others, or have you never thought of things from that perspective before?
You all make such a big deal about the fact that marriage is a sacred religious sacrament, but you don’t protest atheists getting married, or Jews, or Muslims. And how sacred is it when the divorce rate in this country is over 50%? Think of the children you say, well tell me, how many children born in the United States today are raised by both biological parents? How many are instead raised by single parents, step parents, or the TV? You’re the ones hurting your children by teaching them to be intolerant of those who are different from themselves, which as far as I recall, is the exact opposite message Jesus tried to preach to us.
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12:20 am
I love that no matter how hard you try to make homosexuality an abomination, the light keeps shining through.
The Bible has provided countless people with moral guidance, with a foundation for civilized living. But those who hold up the Bible as a spiritual catch-all and use it as a weapon of exclusion and righteousness eventually begin to rely on logical fallacy, and on selective reasoning. And this is where all the arguments against homosexuality come from.
There are several examples throughout this thread where logic breaks down and makes invalid most if not all Bible-based arguments against homosexuality. For example:
How can God abhor something He has created?
Does someone choose to be straight if sexual preference is a choice?
Why is it that one who is a Christian but against homosexuality, to win an argument, must behave in such an opposite way of that of Jesus Christ and his teachings (inclusion, humility, love, acceptance, peace) ?
These logical fallacies are easy to point out, and difficult to overcome. I suggest anyone trying to make these arguments realize that it may be possible that God isn’t the one who hates fags, but themselves. So I have a new sign for you to write up and hold on the curb:
“I hate fags” is a clear, declarative, and unarguable statement. If you hate fags, you hate them, and you want to see them go away or change. How can I argue with that? By declaring that it is You who feel hate toward homosexuals, you will not only win the argument of logic you are so desperate to win, but you’ll get to feel the full reality of how your beliefs affect your life and others in the world.
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12:40 am
This is the most ignorant, ill-informed thing I have ever read. The title itself is incorrect; this entire article was about “gays,” which, if you’ve ever done any research on the topic, are not the same thing as “transgendered” people, or “transsexuals” (also two different things). You do realize that you site being black or a woman as “suffering from a genetic condition”? Really?
I also think you should look up the definition of a “Civil Right.” As in, something that should be guaranteed to every human. As in, something that doesn’t need to be gained through, as you put it, “merit.”
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12:45 am
Being gay is not a choice, you ignorant retard.
By the way, this article is shit.
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1:34 am
I dare you to choose to be gay. Lemme know how it goes.
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2:07 am
It is absolutely shocking that the person that wrote this believes in god. He shows a hateful attitude toward gays. How does he know that being gay has nothing to do with genetic code? Is he a genetisist? Has he studied this himself? Where are these documents that prove what he is saying…..quote them to back your story buddy. I can tell you now that religion is the evil thing here. Religion that claims to know god and yet look at the history of religion and see what it has done in gods name and it will turn your stomach. Don’t call on a god that you obviously know nothing about!!!!!!!!!!
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2:07 am
Why should this even be a question?
You precocious fucks will attack anything.
People are born gay. Deal with it.
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3:29 am
Hi guys,
im gay and i genuinely just dont enjoy cunt. i call myself a christian and follow all of the commandments but i cannot help my sexual urges. i think that your all haters, i would love the chance to ‘talk’ to you one on one especially you males. please share the love.
chur bois,
clough wilson
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4:56 am
No, no, you’re right, gays do choose to be gay. Just as you’ve chosen to be unbelievably stupid and offensive – right?
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5:16 am
you believe that one chooses whether or not to be straight?
i don’t remember being given the choice.
if you believe that being gay is the result of unclean urges and temptation to sin, does that mean that you yourself have resisted these urges?
or do you know someone that has?
if so then you should probably stop socializing with them. it means that they’re closeted.
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5:20 am
I’m.. quite confused.
If a homosexual chooses to be homosexual instead of a heterosexual.. then why do I as a heterosexual have no choice to be homosexual?
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5:38 am
Broken record, you hate gays, we get it, they get it, now enough hate spreading, spread some of the love you claim to have. Or is it purely hate and inciting people into crime? What will it be next year? Old people? they should probably just burn and die because they are a drain on this society. Lets incite hate crimes against old people! BURN THEM! God told me you are evil if you live past 50.
Boring! just let people live their lives and if you happen to be right they are punished enough by an eternity in hell. If you happen to be wrong then you have made many people’s one life hell on a whim. Move on, God will punish people if they are wrong, I don’t remember Jesus chasing sinners down the street with hate signs, and I’m pretty sure he would never condone that. You will have a lot to answer for when your time comes.
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9:30 am
Oh I see… so… God wanted me to be miserable for the first twenty years of my life. The fact that I’ve been happier since embracing my transgenderism is, what, a trick of the mind? The devils influence perhaps? Gosh golly. Better go back to cutting myself. Heaven forbid that I *gasp* wear trousers and hold hands with girls. No. Stricly self loathing and pretending to be interested in flowers and knitting from now on.
After all, it’s probably my wish to pledge in front of him that I’ll always be true to my girlfiend that’s stopping him from dealing with all the little, less important things. You know. Like murder. And rape. And all the starving Africans. Let’s have some perspective, please.
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10:33 am
This article is so silly it may be satire folks. Clearly, there’s nothing remotely Jesus-like in any of it…it obviously nutso.
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6:56 pm
Ray, I was thinking the same thing! This has to be a joke!
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1:19 pm
I don’t understand.
Jesus Christ said to do unto others as they would do unto you. He said to love thy neighbour. He said to practice forgiveness. He said that only God can truely be a judge.
What does this article have to do with being a Christian? This is all speculation and hate.
I practice love and forgivness like our Christ told us to. I forgive you for your hate towards people you don’t know, and I know you will find love and compassion and practice the true words of our saviour.
xo
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2:11 pm
This is actually not a sarcastic comment, just an honest question:
Is this website a joke? I refuse to believe that a religion that follows Jesus Christ, a symbol for love, unity and acceptance is so riddled with hate.
Sigh.
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3:29 pm
I love how ignorant your own user base is.
Y’all are ignorant about the constitution and what it represents and the fact that we are supposed to have laws separating church and state which are obviously not enforced and always ignored by the blind Christians.
So on one hand you’re saying “obey the law” but on the other hand you’re saying “Unless the law affects me and my beliefs”.
I’m always amazed at how ignorant people on here are of the Bible, especially the ones spouting of incorrect proverbs and confusing the testaments.
Keep in mind my dear blind Christians. Christ was on this earth hundreds of years prior to the Bible being written…which was also written by man and it’s based off those mens beliefs.
If you’re going to demand human being live by the Bible then you should look at yourself first before concerning other people, look over the Bible again, look at the things it “forbids” and the things is praises.
Don’t you dare eat anything but the following!! [below is mainly concerning shellfish...lol.]
“You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep. Deuteronomy 14:1-29 ESV
But go ahead and buy yourself some slaves…: “You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. Leviticus 25:44-46
How can you read the Bible and NOT see the absurd things that are written in it? Would you BUY another human being if you could? Doubtful. Do you eat shellfish? Probable, but these are okay…as long as homosexuals never have the right everyone else in America has…right?
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5:04 pm
“gays are gay due to choice”
The Roman-Catholic Church disagrees with you. According to the catechism of the original Christian church (catholic) people are born gay. It is not something they choose.
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So, according to this article, neither my boyfriend or I exist, seeing as apparently “transgender” is a made-up condition, and female-to-male isn’t even mentioned. Huh. I never knew. Guess I’ll just go off and have some fictional gay sex now.
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11:41 pm
This article is obviously at the outer reaches of the author’s vocabulary and his understanding of biology (it’s melanin, Mr Grunhard; melatonin is a neurotransmitter).
Mr Grunhard wrote “Afro-Americans are given equal rights because their skin color is genetic.” “In politics and ensuring rights, we must make sure that Civil Rights are awarded based upon merit.” “Gays are not gay due to genetics; gays are gay due to choice. ”
Jews have equal rights, at least by law. Hindus, Muslims, and Christians are equal before the law. So does Mr Grunhard propose that we revoke these equal rights, because religion is surely a choice? Should Jews and Muslims, with their Abrahamic faiths, have more rights than Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists, but less than Christians?
Of course, the obvious question is, Mr Grunhard — when and how exactly did you choose become a heterosexual? Any regrets?
And, by the way, a phenotypic trait can be biologically influenced without being genetic.
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=( I do hope your hateful views do not spread to others, sir. The church taught me to accept others when no one is being harmed. So, I will remain faithful to Jesus’ ways, I will love thy neighbor. If homosexuals love each other, let them. Do not hate them.
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3:54 am
Why do the gays always ignore the part of the Bible that says their lifestyle is an offense and they will burn in Hell if they keep it up?
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To all the people holding up the bible as “proof”:
1) The bible as we know it today has gone through many translations, edits and alterations throughout the past 2000 years. Or did you think that people in ancient world all spoke english?
2) The word “abomination” in the bible is not what people today think it means. In the original context, it simple meant “taboo”, “not done”, “not normal”. Also, add in the fact that Leviticus is a holiness code written for priests, and ONLY priests, the entire argument falls apart right there. What this part of the text means is: Don’t have sex while performing priestly duities. Something I kind of argee with… However, I don’t think that most Catholic priests do, though.
3) The part in Acts in which Paul speaks of the men and women in the temple…. Many people like to hold this up as proof in the “New Testament”. However, again, let’s look at context. Paul is in a temple that is supposedly devoted to his God, yet he sees people all having sex, and being “unholy” in the house of God. Of course he is going to be pissed.
4) Most of the writings done by Paul were letters written to specific people or towns, not humanity as a whole, or for everyone throughout time. And again, these were Paul’s personal opinions.
5) Taking a look at the words used in that time and that they simply had no terms for homosexuality back then, the word “eunuchs” could very easily mean homosexuals. In which case, Christ himself said that people were born that way, and that it is no choice. (Matthew 19:12 Lamsa)
http://www.homosexualeunuchsandthebible.com/
6) The crimes of Sodom and Gomorrah was not homosexuality. It was because of being inhospital to foriegners. The one times it speaks of a homosexual act is when a group of men are trying to gang rape another man. I think God would be against gang rape, wouldn’t you?
(For more info, check this link http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian )
7) There are two commandments given by Jesus Christ. One is to love your God with all of your heart and have no other God before him. The second is to love others as God loves you. You follow these two things, everything else will fall into place. You cannot harm someone if you truely love them. You cannot murder, steal, covet, or anything else if you truely love others the way God loves you. And you certainly cannot hate homosexuals, transgenders, or whoever else simple because they are different.
Matthew 22:37-40 (New International Version)
37Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
This article is pure filth based on fear and propaganda put forth by so called “Christians” who know nothing of their faith or the one they claim as their “God”. They know nothing of their bible, and probably do not wish to, in fear that it will contradict all the ingrained beliefs and hate that was instilled in them at a young age. It’s not just this article however, but this entire site. Anyone who believes the nonsense on this site is breaking God’s Law.
I honestly do feel sorry for the poor children of these nutcases who inflict this filth into their minds. All this hate, fear, and anger… May God bless the children who manage to grow up and escape this mindset. And I pray that the children being abused by this mindset will find help and solice away from these hateful people. God loves everyone. Homosexuality is not a choice. But homophobia is.
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9:03 am
I am a transsexual,will I go to hell ???
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Hilarious as always.
Seriously, people, read the titles of these “articles”
“How To Spot A Masturbator”
“Vajazzling, The Newest Threat To You College Son”
“Why Do Rabbits Rape Cats?”
This is a joke, a la “A Modest Proposal.” Either bask in the funny, or be disgruntled and move on, but leave your hate outside.
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i know thats precisely how i took this article. i was confused people were taking it seriously, but in their defense, real honest “christians” have some fucked up shit to say sometimes. LOLOL
jesus is santa claus for adults. christians only do what they are herded into for fear of being punished or denied something at death.
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11:48 am
Oh my Lord … I had to check the URL on this feature twice to make sure I wasn’t on The Onion website…
1. As a law student, the author Scott Grunhard doesn’t seem to understand the basic concept of civil rights. To say “we must make sure that Civil Rights are awarded based upon merit” is an oxymoron. Civil rights are not EARNED. They are inalienable.
2. I did enjoy the attempt Grunhard’s attempt at racial understanding. But to imply blacks “earned” civil rights makes me wonder how he or his ancestors, white Americans, had to “earn” their civil rights.
3. BTW Scott, the term isn’t “Afr0-American” or even “Afro-American.” It’s African American. Your ideology is as archaic as your mindset.
4. “Gays are not gay due to genetics; gays are gay due to choice.” Based on what evidence? What are your sources? I’d like to know as you seem to have the outstanding scientific and medical community outwitted. Also, may I enquire as to when you decided to be straight?
5. “Due to their self-loathing, they have no bottom line and enjoy corrupting the most innocent of everyone, children.” Again, what are your sources? How to you explain male heterosexual pederasts, who are statistically a larger category? Does the practically non-existent incidence of lesbian pederasty mean that gay women are thus more moral than straight males?
6. “blurring the line between decency and morality” — uhhh, I always thought decency and morality went hand-in-hand. Did you mean to write “decency and immorality”?
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12:53 pm
Thank GOD there are INTELLIGENT beings on my side of the issue… Yes, I agree with everyone, where is your proof that a person’s sexual orientation is a choice? Wonderfully put John.
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Oh my Lord … I had to check the URL on this feature twice to make sure I wasn’t on The Onion website…
1. As a law student, the author Scott Grunhard doesn’t seem to understand the basic concept of civil rights. To say “we must make sure that Civil Rights are awarded based upon merit” is an oxymoron. Civil rights are not EARNED. They are inalienable.
2. I did enjoy the attempt Grunhard’s attempt at racial understanding. But to imply blacks “earned” civil rights makes me wonder how he or his ancestors, white Americans, had to “earn” their civil rights.
3. BTW Scott, the term isn’t “Afr0-American” or even “Afro-American.” It’s African American. Your ideology is as archaic as your mindset.
4. “Gays are not gay due to genetics; gays are gay due to choice.” Based on what evidence? What are your sources? I’d like to know as you seem to have the outstanding scientific and medical community outwitted. Also, may I enquire as to when you decided to be straight?
5. “Due to their self-loathing, they have no bottom line and enjoy corrupting the most innocent of everyone, children.” Again, what are your sources? How to you explain male heterosexual pederasts, who are statistically a larger category? Does the practically non-existent incidence of lesbian pederasty mean that gay women are thus more moral than straight males?
6. “blurring the line between decency and morality” — uhhh, I always thought decency and morality went hand-in-hand. Did you mean to write “decency and immorality”?
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12:28 pm
you are an asshole, i’m gay, i believe everyone should have equal rights, regardless of their sexuality, you are all being prejudice, get to know some gays, most grew up depressed trying to deal with people like you putting them down. there is such a high rate of gay teen suicides, why??? you guys!! live and let live!!!
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12:45 pm
Ahaha this is pathetic and made me laugh. Gay rights are human rights, because being gay is not a choice.
You can’t stop it, pretty soon we will be allowed to marry.
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12:45 pm
What a biased poll. The way it is worded is extremely offensive. I may not be a transgender or a transsexual person, but I believe in their rights to marry. As a Bisexual teenager, I am extremely active in trying to make marriage rights universal and much less discriminatory. I hope that one day you ass holes will finally become a part of the alliance that is the peaceful world. Please, think about how your words will hurt someone before you say or type them.
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12:49 pm
God made me who I am, that being a proud queer man who believes strongly in this religion, but as a human, I have to say this all disgusts me.
We’re taught to practice tolerance, to treat others as we would enjoy being treated.
Throughout this article and all anti-LGBTQ propaganda, we often get called nearly inhuman; I think it’s time we have the right to turn that label around.
I did not choose to be who I am, but I know Jesus loves who I am, and I love it myself.
To paraphrase: “Fuck you in your ignorant, sweaty assholes”
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12:54 pm
12 Reasons Why Gay Marriage Should Be Illegal
1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can’t legally get married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are property, blacks can’t marry whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven’t adapted to things like cars or longer life-spans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a “separate but equal” institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
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I was raised in the church by a truly Christian mother. I was brought to love God and my fellow man. I do NOT understand how as a Christian you can love God whom you cannot see and in the same breath hate the man standing next to you for nothing more than his sexual orientation. The only choice made in being a gay person is the choice to live openly and be subjected to the nonsensical views of conservative Christians. It is utterly ridiculous to vent against the scientific community for their pursuit of knowledge in any capacity. Enlightenment will come to you sir.
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Here are a few questions to the pseudo journalist who wrote this article and his religious fanatic friends who justify their own hatred of gays by the Bible:
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
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1:10 pm
We are aggressively praying that your ignorant, sinful eyes will be opened, and the LORD OF HOSTS will be diligent in sending His Spirit to open you to the truth of God’s Word.
I’m gay. I’m in a monogamous relationship. I attend church. I am a temple of the Holy Spirit. I have the gift of tongues as He has bestowed it. Since light cannot dwell with darkness, I think you might be mixed up in your presentation of the Lord’s words, love and character.
Again: we’re praying for you!
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1:17 pm
America the free… for heterosexual Christians. You people make me sick. You clearly aren’t of an intelligence capable of properly comprehending the moral teachings of Jesus Christ. Go get fucked… sodomized, for the irony.
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1:21 pm
I feel that, no one person has the right to judge another. It’s as simple as if you don’t agree with it don’t do it. But don’t put down another person for making a different decision as you. Becuase I’d wager that if most of these people had someone close to them openly admit that they were LGBT, then they would quickly change what they were saying.
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2:48 pm
What cracks me up is the add above the article…”Gay personals..Find single gays in your area!” hahaha!!!
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3:05 pm
Let HOMOSEX pass, Obamer approves.
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3:45 pm
You people are all crazy and/or really stupid. This is a spoof site! None of it is real! It’s like The Onion for religion. Hahahaha!! Get it??
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5:39 pm
I know I already posted but I found something else as well after doing a little digging…
This country was founded upon the freedom of speech and religion, which under the constitution, if you kept up with the debate in California, the 14th amendment of the constitution says in section 1: “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
What this means is that any minority have the same rights as any other citizen of the United States. Gay people are recognized class of people legally, which we are a minority. Your Bible doesn’t apply to it being the fact of the Treaty of Tripoli of 1792 STATES as well as the US Constitution says that the United States is not founded on religion rather the freedom to express it without imposing on the government, which Bush did a no-no. So you can scream “Oh no you can’t!” all you want, but the constitution says that we’re legally able to do what every citizen of America can do. Constitution-1; Christianity-0.
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I’ve read much on your site. I must say that it appears that you really do not know the bible at all. I am a Buddhist and believe that no one has the right to kill other life forms, all life is sacred (even your pitiful obviously non-life life). I know that hate is wrong, whoever you are. I also know that each persons path in this life, and for all subsequent lives is their path only-no two paths are the same because everyone is different from all others. I also know that hate is not a family value though in many christian homes it certainly is: I now understand christianity-it is a religion of hate, fear, judging all others, bigotry, racism, intolerance and stupidity. That about covers it, right? So the ten commandments are: 1. Hate everyone who is not like you-2. Judge everyone because god is not going to do it-3. Racism is good (white churches & black churches, but none mixed)-4. Hippocrasy is the only way to live-5. Do anything bad you like because you will be forgiven all of it-6. Cheat everyone who is not christian because they are not really human-7. Hurt anyone who is not christian because they are not really human either-8. Dispose of your parents by placing them into storage when they get old. 9. Tell everyone else how to live because you know best-10. Hate hate and more hate-closed minded and closed hearted, thats the way to go.
No wonder god has such a bad name that people are turning away from all religion-its because of you and oddly enough, those evil muslims who believe exactly as you do. The two religions should get together and you could probably hate enough to destroy the entire world. It is a pleasure to be an athiest especially if you are god’s representative on earth-you and your intolerant muslim friends can just go destroy the world together-that is what it seems you wish to do. Your parents taught you this? SHAME! Oh, and when exactly did you decide to be heterosexual?
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2:14 am
Gays deserve every right that straights have!
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7:09 am
I’m 13, and was hoping this article was a joke. It gives me the impression that Americans are small-minded, big-mouthed haters; it also makes me very glad that I live in England. Why is there so much hate in the world?!
Surely God would prefer love over hate? If He really hated gays so much, wouldn’t He give straight people a warning to build an ark and then drown gay people in a flood, or something to that effect?
I used to think the whole point of religion was to unite people; to spread more love in the world. Now I think (and this will offend a lot of people) that religion is poison. Did you know that there is evidence that the person who wrote the bible may have been taking drugs at the time? This hate may be the product of some crackpot old fool on magic mushrooms.
So, I’m going to go and watch Glee or But I’m a Cheerleader, listen to I Kissed a Girl by Jill Sobule, and then read Keeping You a Secret by Julie Anne Peters. Have fun with your hating, it’s not going to get you anywhere =)
Love you all! x
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9:28 am
america… a free country for all that dwell….
except for gays, they have less rights because of who they love.
its the 21st century!! gays shouldnt have to fight for equal rights, we should have them by now, but no…prejudice ignorant biggots decided to deprive of of our rights.
immature.
imagine if it were your daughter, or son?? how would you feel if they loved someone so much, but the government, and people around them (who have no right to poke their nose into their relationship) prevent them to marry, prevent them from having kids, and living like a normal couple just because of what’s in their pants.
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10:51 am
This is America where we have one religion and that is Christianity and we must obey the ideals of the Christian majority. Your opinions are different than mine and therefor are wrong even though I know nothing of homosexuals that is based in reality. I hate them because they are wrong and different from me.
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Love is love. And isn’t that what Christianity proposes, is to ‘love thy neighbor?’ What’s it to you if some men love men?
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5:17 pm
ok wow. this website is bullshit.
i happen to be a transman and there is nothing wrong with that. i was simply born male in a female body. and i can have a heterosexual marriage with whomever I love.
you shouldnt hate an entire group of people without doing any sort of research into the situation. Gays and trans and bi and lesbian. They are fine.
websites like this make me think that America is the worst country in the world. thank god i am moving to canada. Honestly america wake up, gays are the new blacks. or are you all white racist supremicists?
this website is unbelievable.
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11:50 pm
I actually find it disturbing that people so close-minded and hateful still exist. Yet another reason to be glad I’m Canadian. I mean we’ve got bigots over here, but I’ve never heard of any so extreme….
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11:05 am
This website isnt for real, is it?! I have been reading some of the stories. This has to be a parody site.
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4:45 pm
Canada is laughing at us. Gays can already marry there and the only consequence of it is…. gays can marry. Does Canada look like a cesspool of moral degradation?
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8:47 pm
Trust me Not Only Canadian laugh at american
we see a lot of stupidity coming from american since they are founded and seriously we might not be great but we saw worst (american)
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3:35 pm
I was wondering why this site is so anti gay people why it has advertisements for gay dating sites on it??
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9:45 pm
Can lettuce eat bacon?
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8:32 pm
Wtf is this?!
1. Not all transsexuals are gay
2. Nowhere in the entire bible does it say anything about transsexuals
3. You’re a bigot and a disgrace if you even attempt to pass yourself off as a christian!!
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3:48 am
I can’t believe I’m reading this right now. My brain began to reject what I was reading; surely this can’t be real? This… Is complete nonsense. In fact, it goes even beyond that. This article is an attack. That’s the most I can put it to.
I will start by saying that I, as a transsexual woman, am completely appalled. The points made in this article have driven me to a loss of words even… I’m scared. I don’t know if this author is truly just ignorant, or if he’s out of his mind… He’s obviously never experienced the pain of being forced into the closet, nor has he ever had to grow up knowing exactly what it means.
Growing up, I had a relatively happy childhood. Wonderful parents (they were straight, for I’m afraid that here, that’s apparently relavent), wonderful neighbors, nothing to cause “psychological trauma”. From the day I was brought home from the hospital, they raised and treated me as a boy. I was given male clothes, stereotypically male toys. I was enrolled in sports. But deep down, for as long as I can remember, I knew in my heart I was female.
It wasn’t because I was attracted to boys (I wasn’t. Not all transpeople are attracted to their same biological gender. That’s something this author doesn’t seem to realize.) Nor was it because of anything that was ever said or done to me. I had the feeling of being completely, absolutely different. I wasn’t a boy. My interests, my habits, my thoughts, my personality, it was completely different from any boy. I never fit in with the guys, and when I was around girls, I felt as if I was one of them. I’ve grown up feeling that I was born with a defect. My body is wrong.
But, growing up in a mainly conservative atmosphere, I was never allowed to act the least bit girly. If I showed anything, if I even cried in public, I’d be made fun of. I wasn’t allowed to show emotion, like “real” girls. I wasn’t allowed to feel beautiful. God forbid, if I presented as the girl I knew I was, I’d be labled as a fag.
I know it’s hard for non-trans people to understand. Can you understand, for a second, the pain of having yourself be repressed? Can you understand what it’s like to hate yourself for what you, biologically, can not change? Of course you can’t. But does that mean you should hate the people that go through it? Are we really that repulsive, that offensive to you? We’re not trying to “trick” or “decieve” anyone. Nor are we trying to “cheat” the marriage system. We’re human beings, just like the rest of you.
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