Kirk Cameron and Banana Man’s Reissue of Darwin’s “Origin of Species” a Success: Evolution Disproved once and for all!
As I’m sure you’ve been aware, Charles Darwin’s unholy fictional novel known as “The Origin of Species” is recognized as formal doctrine of the Satanic Church of America, and is even considered to be the official Antichrist’s Bible in some Luciferian sects. Since this is America, these blasphemous Wiccan religions are technically free to use whatever “religious text” they’d like for their sinister “bibles”. However, when these Satanic texts are forced into our classrooms in the name of “science”, a line is finally crossed. Liberals love to complain about upholding the “separation of church and state”, but have no problem with mixing the two when it is their false religion of evolution that they want to force down the virgin throats of our children.
Kirk Cameron, former teenage heartthrob and current revered Christian Young Earth Creationist
Luckily, for the sake of the children in this country, two holy crusaders began on a journey two years ago to put a stop to this. Ray Comfort aka “The Banana Man” and former Growing Pains megastar, Kirk Cameron issued the reedited, truthful version of Darwin’s evolutionary book of demonic lies. They included an extended prologue to warn the children that what they are about to read is pure science fiction. They also put the true history of Charles Darwin’s life into the book, highlighting his misogyny, racism, undeniable connection to Adolf Hitler, and his pedophilic, analsexual exploits. Comfort explains:
“If you’re going to present a piece of literature and claim it is nonfiction, it’s important to allow the reader to have some background information on the author of the text in question, so they can assess this claim for themselves. When children are given the Bible to read, they know exactly who the author is and what He stands for. That author is, of course, God and there is well-known detailed information out there about Him. When the evolutionists want to present their “bible” it is important that our children know who Charles Darwin is before they make up their minds.”
Cameron and Comfort are sure to highlight how Adolf Hitler used Darwin’s book as his primary blueprint for the extermination of the Jews. They also point out the fact that Darwin took on a 12 year old child husband, after he forced the boy’s parents to sign his rights away to Darwin. Darwin was also the chief influence for NAMBLA’s (North American Man-Boy Love Association) founder, beat poet Allen Ginsberg. Another starling fact about Darwin was his own alliance with high ranking witches of the day and other practitioners Satan’s dark arts (no wonder they revere his work). Darwin famously recanted on his deathbed and apologized to God Almighty for the sins he had committed which laid the ground work for evolution, liberalism, atheism, and black magic to rear their ugly heads into the public school system and infect our children. Unfortunately for Darwin, God knew it was too late for repentance as He cast Darwin into the Lake of Fire.
Fortunately, the righteous work of Cameron and Comfort is finally starting to pay off. When polled recently, over 75% of school children now accept the true doctrine of Young-Earth Creationism- up from 42% before the new books were distributed. An amazing 91% of these new adherents to Creationism attribute their awakening directly to Cameron and Comfort’s new book. Finally, the public school system is starting to fall into line with the rest of mainstream science and accept the indisputable fact that God created the heavens and the earth over a period of six days around 6,000 years ago!
Ray Comfort demonstrating his historic banana model, which is sure to be taught in public schools as soon as Obama is impeached for being an illegal Kenyan immigrant
For those that do not know why Ray Comfort is called the “Banana Man”, this was a title of reverence given to him by the scientific world when he disproved evolution through the use of a banana, illustrating how its perfection is a testament to God’s unique creation. Once Obama is defeated in 2012, the homogay, liberal stronghold will be defeated once and for all, and I have no doubt that this newfound liberation will give teachers the courage to teach Intelligent Design in the classroom once more. It seems the only monkey here is Mr. Darwin himself. Hey Chuck, I hope they have bananas in hell!
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Author: Matthew B. Glosser
Matthew Glosser is a young, aspiring preacher who left a haven of sin known as New Jersey to move to the Godly state of Arizona. His interests include going undercover to infiltrate, most notably, the hippie and homogay movements in order to share his horrific findings with the Christwire Fellowship.
10:22 am
Well – they have my support!
I know we are not descended from the Monkees.
On top of that, when Africans had sex with Monkees, we got AIDS. Now try and tell me that if that had happened 6,000 years ago that any of us would have survived to this day.
Proof positive!
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10:56 am
as to this the aids virus can be transmitted through saliva as i heard and if a monkey spit on someone they could easily of picked it up that way
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12:44 pm
AIDS can not be transmitted through salvia, you fool… You need to take an AIDS awareness class… THe history of AIDS is quite clear… African bushmen seduced have have sex with monkees, African bushmen brought over to the United States in the 1700′s… African bushmen begin selling illegal crack drugs… African bushmen infect these drugs with their AIDS disease… Homogays start using drugs… Homogays contract the AIDS from crack drugs… Homogays attempt to reproduce with each other, to no avail.. however, spreading AIDS all over the gay world… The first bisexual is born and has sex with a homogay and a straight, normal person… Now america has been infected .. Pretty easy to figure that out
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2:06 pm
The HIV/AIDS can be transmitted by blood, semen, vaginal secretions and breastmilk. An AIDS infected monkey could have attacked a man and infected him.
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2:15 pm
any body fluid is what i heard can spread hiv/aids
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2:36 pm
Saliva can only spread it if it contains any traces of blood, etc. Tears… I don’t know. Any other bodily fluids, the same with saliva: with blood, semen, etc.
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2:38 pm
although.. how do people get AIDS from the toilet seat then?
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2:53 pm
I’ll tell you: It’s a myth. Unless somebody actually ejaculated or bled over the toilet seat, nobody disinfected it and you sat on it with a gash on your leg, and that gash got in contact with the contamined area, you cannot get AIDS from a toilet seat.
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3:00 pm
well there are a few Christians with AIDS and they surely didn’t get it from fornication or IV drug use… so the toilet seat is the only logical explanation in their case
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3:07 pm
Okay. Matt. AIDS can be transmitted through blood transfusions, too.
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3:08 pm
They could have been victms of hospital malpractice, or they could have been injured and gotten in contact with some object contamined with the virus… or, maybe, they have some dirty little secrets, as everyone…
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3:21 pm
Considering it was only recently discovered within the past 30 years, you’re just full of shit.
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12:33 pm
You Harold are definitely a descendant from a monkey.
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12:47 pm
Shannon, NOBODY on this planet is a descendent of a monkee… I wouldn’t even levy that charge against the worst of the worst liberals atheists… I’m glad you and I at least agree that evolution is a lie
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12:54 pm
I never said I thought evolution was a lie, my opinion on that is still up in the air, but there is more evidence supporting evolution than creation, so I tend to fall towards evolution.
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1:07 pm
If evolution is true.. then why do we still have monkees? if we evolve from them they should be all gone .. its only a theory, remember
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1:09 pm
i need proof something exist before i can believe it just raised that way so in a way im nuetral on almost everyhting i just lean towards evolution bc theirs proof maybe not the most solid proof but proff nontheless that its true
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1:12 pm
proof that the world just happened out of random chance from a boiling stew of sin? i dont think so.. you can’t have a watch without a watchmaker.. you can’t have a painting without a painting.. everything must have a creator
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1:16 pm
Maybe the species of monkey that we evolved from is extinct, have you thought of that?
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1:17 pm
the world did happen by chance just as the bigbang happaned was the energy spread out creating the universe i will not try to convince you to become atheist im just showing you whats really being said and not what some people are saying we say
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1:23 pm
well thats you’re open shannon, not the opinion of the “theory”… the “scientists” state that we evolved from modern day chimpanzees… then they should have disappeared… Dr. Comfort and Mr. Cameron are offering 10 million dollars to anyone who can prove evolution, or prove that there is a “missing link” in between the gaps.. so far.. it hasn’t been done.. millions have tried and still can’t prove it
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3:30 pm
“If evolution is true.. then why do we still have monkees? if we evolve from them they should be all gone .. its only a theory, remember”
Monkeys are our glorified cousins in a way. We came from the same ancestor, but our line of evolution went down one way, while theirs went down another way. Imagine it like this: you have a brother, and you wanted to become a doctor while your brother wanted to become a nurse. Similar jobs, but still very different. You and your brother are related, but you didn’t come from him. That’s a rough idea of how human evolution happened.
This is how it’s been for quite some time, and it’s only when idiots like you decide to hop on the ‘we came from monkeys but we still have monkeys ergo it is all false’ train and claim that anything else is just an excuse is there any confusion. If instead of just blurting out random bullshit, if you actually READ the material, you’d realize that. And do keep in mind the difference between a ‘law’ and a ‘theory’ in the world of science. One is concrete, the other is a ‘best guess’.
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3:33 pm
“well thats you’re open shannon, not the opinion of the “theory”… the “scientists” state that we evolved from modern day chimpanzees… then they should have disappeared…”
That’s not how it works at all. If people like you would actually spend 10 minutes reading the damn book and understanding it, you’d realize just how idiotic you sound right now.
“Dr. Comfort and Mr. Cameron are offering 10 million dollars to anyone who can prove evolution, or prove that there is a “missing link” in between the gaps.. so far.. it hasn’t been done.. millions have tried and still can’t prove it”
I’m offering 20 million dollars to anyone who can prove to me that the Christian bible is in fact true. No body is getting that money, I can tell you that right now, so why the hell do we care what two idiots say about evolution when there’s already enough proof that it’s more than likely what happened.
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5:11 pm
scientific theories must be observable.. evilution has never been observed.. its just one big extrapolation .. nobody was there to watch these things evolve
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2:26 pm
i came from a vagina that came from a vagina and my kids will come from a vagina that’s all i care about, and Chuck Norris created the universe by winning his roommate Tommy in arm wrestling (like always) and celebrated by farting thus creating the universe
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2:36 pm
Chuck Norris is a great, holy man.. but he is not God.. and he would agree with me there..
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3:03 pm
nope he would roundhouse kick u into next week and then we can get rid of u, well at least for a week! and ur right it was Marilyn Manson thanks for reminding me!
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4:12 pm
sir, are you a biker by chance?
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5:19 pm
I bet you know all about vaginas you tuna licking whore
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1:15 pm
So if monkeys eat bananas and people eat bananas whats eating the Banana Man?
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1:18 pm
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11:32 am
AIDS was contracted from MONKEYS (Not Monkees) by several African tribes eating the raw meat and brains on monkeys. This allowed for the AIDS virus to be transmitted to humans, and thus spread over time.
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10:54 am
darwin never did any of those things and his book was based on the fact that imbetween different islands that a ship he was on visited he noticed that although there were the same types of birds they didnt look the same they had different physicle features or lived in different areas then their cousins
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12:26 pm
well.. looks like you’ve finally admitted that you’re just looking for attention .. not that we didn’t know that already… if you dont think darwin did those things.. you might wanna look up Hitler and Eugenics… Darwin was an evil, evil, evil man
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1:02 pm
so you want to go down that road then darwin was sailing to island to island and started keeping a juornal after several islands and noticing the difference between creatures of the same species and how the had different niches(look it up anywhere besides wikipedia) then their cousins on different islands you can say im doing this for attention but if i was i would be doing it alot more aggresivly
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1:09 pm
well you were just crying that you were being ignored before… yes thats what darwin did originally, but he extrapolated this crazy theory that allows for “survival of the fittest” and killing off the weak races
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1:13 pm
no survival of the fittest is that the ones that dont change to survive in their envirment have the smallest chance of survival in the long run and the ignored thing was put in the wrong place two articles open and got confused
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1:20 pm
Im sorry but I can’t understand a word you’re saying, number one.. and two, hitler has used this as a justification for killing millions
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1:24 pm
just one interpretation of a madman like ossamas interpretation of the kuron or what ever holy book he used to justify kepping woman as basicly slaves
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3:10 pm
Well it certainly sounds like Darwin was on one of those “Gay” cruises.
I suspect he came up with his book to cover his tracks.
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10:30 am
Why don’t you just figure out what was wrong with your math. How many times have you predicted the end of the world based on fictional writings?
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1:28 pm
Evil man?
This from a jew?
You assume your god created the universe, you have yet to show any proof of your judeo god or in fact his relevance in todays society, to deny evolution is akin to deny the sun will rise tomorrow. Darwin was a had a brilliant mind, unlike the multitude of authors from your ‘book’, which was written from oral hearsay and extrapolation. The final influence being the cathlics that have ‘edited’ the good book to suit their homosexual and idol worshipping agenda.
Lets discuss your foundations before you criticize science, the christain faith is based on lies to control the masses.
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1:33 pm
not to mention that the bible couldve of been fiction at that time
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1:41 pm
It was the soap opera of 90 AD, it had a virgin birth, incest, murder rape, child labour, infanticide,robbery,lust and megalomania.
Award winning feature!
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2:29 pm
these guys could do learn from bronys they at least know kindness and to look past skin color and what sex you are
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4:12 pm
who are you calling a Jew?
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3:36 pm
Then by your logic, you admit to being a mentally insane man who eats donkeys.
What part of that led you to believe that he ‘admitted that he was looking for attention’.
Oh, and if you want to get into evil, do keep in mind that you follow people who aren’t even in the bible you love so dearly and that those people wanted anyone who sinned killed on the spot, no chance for redemption.
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4:14 pm
a couple of posts down .. Glitch says.. “I feel ignored” when no one would respond to his diatribe
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1:34 pm
Glitch,
You cannot educate an ignoramus like Glosser, he has ‘faith’, how weak is that, he can’t explain shit but he has faith!
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1:37 pm
i realise this but i still have faintest hope theres some weakness in his shield of a imaginary deity
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1:47 pm
His weakness is obvious, where do think he hides his bible when he’s preachin’ in jail?
Crappy but thoughtful.
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2:19 pm
I can disprove any piece of evilution you throw at me .. its all been done a million times by people much smarter than the both of us… Yes, I am a born-again Christian, but I have proof to back up my beliefs.. and its all in the Holy Book
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2:26 pm
And your holy book is a made up work of fiction.
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2:35 pm
awww granny read that book to me and then she died in a car accident that night and now she’s i don’t know where, but im so jealous at least she doesn’t have to deal with u people and that only show the “Holy book” will bring death
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2:45 pm
You speak in tongues.
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3:33 pm
gratsii
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3:39 pm
Mexican does not count.
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11:48 am
I always thought to myself that maybe dear Kirk may have been the Lord Jesus returned to us. My friends thought I was crazy, but when they read this hopefully they will see the Truth!
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11:50 am
i feel very ignored
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12:28 pm
thats an interesting premise.. i wouldn’t be too sure about that.. but there is definitely a chance Kate! He sure is holy enough!
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12:30 pm
Fascinating Science article.
I use bananas and Jello to teach the kids how God molded man in his own image. It’s a big hit at fellowship conferences.
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12:36 pm
Ah yes.. Bananas are indeed a powerful tool to teach the wonders of God’s creation
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5:20 pm
how?
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1:11 pm
you can’t spell evolution without evil.. you think this was a coincedence? evilution is a relic of the 19th century.. scientists are over it
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1:53 pm
Next you tell me that jesus actually died on a cross!
Why is the universe expanding?
Jesus settled in France and had children with Mary, where have you been, go do your research please.
P.s. The gospel of John was written by Lazarus.
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2:42 pm
Thats Da Vinci code nonsense.. Jesus would not live with the frogs on France… the universe is expanding because “God stretched the heavens” Genesis 1:15
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2:48 pm
“el in eue por shin nit por shen lin?” a little culture it an old language spoken by elderly Arab women, says the Jew must not speak of noses! calling the french “frogs” is very insulting! U r the reason why the rest of the world wants to fuck us up!
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5:34 pm
why is everyone blaspheming my good name by calling me a Jew?
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12:04 pm
Perhaps its because your god is a jew! The apple never falls far from the tree.
Would you agree the cathlics constructed the order and content of the bible at the council of hippo?
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3:39 pm
“you can’t spell evolution without evil.. you think this was a coincedence? evilution is a relic of the 19th century.. scientists are over it”
What? No really, what? You JUST SPELLED evolution without evil, it’s not spelled WITH evil in the first place. Hell, evilution was a slur against the very concept of evolution, how the hell is your backwards thinking even possible in this day and age?
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4:17 pm
Do you even know what that phrase means? “you can’t spell blank without blank” evolution contains the letters E V I and L .. so you can’t spell evolution without evil .. plus if you’ve listened to that atheist Richard Dawkins talk.. his freudian slips make him pronounce the word as “evilution”
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4:54 pm
That phrase is ONLY applied when the DIRECT WORD is in there, NOT just the letters. By that logic, I can say that ‘you can’t spell Christianity with taint’. The word ‘evil’ has it’s LETTERS in evolution, yes, but DO keep in mind that the last four letters are a suffix, the base word of ‘evolution’ is ‘evolve’ and there’s no ‘i’ to be found in ‘evolve’. If you wanted to use that phrase CORRECTLY to actually make sense, you could say “you can’t spell believe without ‘lie’.” But no, you just take straws and you will hold onto them for dear life.
Oh, and Richard Dawkins is British, which means he as an accent, which means you’re STILL grasping at straws, since THAT is why it sounds like ‘evilution’.
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1:23 pm
Just a couple of notes: Darwin never used the term ‘survival of the fittest’ in the ‘Origin’ and Hitler’s eugenics program was patterned after those programs already in force in the United States.
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4:08 pm
”If evolution is true.. then why do we still have monkees? if we evolve from them they should be all gone .. its only a theory, remember”
That is awesome reasoning brother Mathew!
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4:14 pm
No it’s not. Idiots like you haven’t read the theory in whole or understood one simple sentence, WE DID NOT EVOLVE FROM MONKEYS, WE EVOLVED FROM A SIMILAR ANCESTOR. Was that big enough for you to read?
It’s the same as anyone saying ‘oh, Jesus isn’t alive today, so that means there’s no god!’; you’d find it stupid and you’d try to reason that he is dead but came back to life, then died again, but that person saying only half of it and implying that because it isn’t true, that you’ve got nothing.
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4:19 pm
Your logic is backwards and ceases to make sense… Jesus IS God.. He was crucified, died, buried and risen on the 3rd day.. He is now in Heaven.. waiting to return again on the 21st of October, 2011… Which means you better start thinkng about how you’re going to spend your afterlife FAST
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4:22 pm
Yea the only thing that gonna happen after october 21 is october 22.
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6:41 pm
yea.. there will be an october 22nd.. in heaven.. time wont really matter where you’re going though.. the time of the anti-christ is at hand
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6:44 pm
I will be laughing so hard at you morons with it comes and goes just like it did last time.
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6:57 pm
what do you mean last time? There was a rapture and it was so exclusive that not even we at Christwire were saved right away .. The Lord wanted to leave Dr. Camping and Christwire on earth until Judgment day so we could save as many souls as we could until october.. we re trying to save yours, miss ter
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6:59 pm
and imnot going to be laughing from heaven at you when judgment day does come.. i will be weeping for you..
I gotta run soon.. I have a youth ministry to teach tonight.. Im thinking about using you as a topic tonight, Shannon.. So I can tell the children about a woman who we offered every chance at salvation and she spit in our faces.. Hopefully before October I will have good news for the kids about you finally joining us. We can teach you how to handle snakes
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7:01 pm
a lot of these kids tonight have never heard me speak.. its their first youth gathering.. i have so much to tell them
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7:03 pm
Ok you are just pulling shit out of your ass now. Quit you making yourself look stupid.
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4:27 pm
“Which means you better start thinkng about how you’re going to spend your afterlife FAST”
they should get used to being on fire
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4:29 pm
At least I will be warm.
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8:51 pm
its not going to be warmth shannon… its going to be hellishly hot.. temperatures of over 2000 degrees .. you will be swimming in lava.. and it will last for eternity
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8:53 pm
“Really”… i’ve been asking that question myself for a while now.. I love how the actual truth of the matter is .. no matter how much LN claims to be the “smart” one here.. shes really not
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8:59 pm
When have I ever claimed to be the ‘smart’ one? I’ve just said you and the rest of Christwire are a bunch of idiots. Is it so difficult to say that I’m a man?
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4:37 pm
How is Jesus God if he is the SON of God?
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5:16 pm
apparently you don’t understand the concept of the holy trinity.. 3 distinct beings of one God… The Father, Son ad the Holy Spirit… like a shamrock as St. Patrick used to say
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6:06 pm
Then why is there evidence that says otherwise in the bible?
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8:57 pm
please inform me as I am not very intelligent
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9:38 pm
im not sure what evidence you are talking about… but every christian knows that God, Jesus and the HOly spirit are separate entities yet one in the same .. basic christian knowledge
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9:42 pm
Again, there’s evidence that says otherwise. There are passages in the bible that separate Jesus and God as being two different beings, one being the Father and the other being the Son.
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9:53 pm
I’m sorry Mat that I am such a dumb bitch, please explain the bible to me more
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4:28 pm
LN you recalcitrant slut, I am very aware of how your supposed evolution works, read my informative post below.
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4:38 pm
Apparently you can’t tell time because I wrote that before your tripe.
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5:24 pm
what the fuck is a tripe? why did I write that?
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5:28 pm
Xenu, why are you so mad?
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6:03 pm
I wrote it dumb ass
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6:44 pm
i think you’re turning on yourself LN.. you’re acting more schizo than Al Manson
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7:07 pm
You can come out Xenu, we all know it’s you.
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7:40 pm
Can I eat dinner without you accusing me of something, woman?
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7:52 pm
Can you act like a normal human being instead of eating those dead babies and being an immoral 15 year old boy?
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7:55 pm
L.N are you just completely stupid or do you let the people here just make you look so stupid?
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8:55 pm
whoops.. i was writing a post to you “Really?” but i replyed to the wrong comment… but yes.. despite what LN thinks.. everyone is laughing at her.. she’s the stupid one and it can be proven pretty easily
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8:58 pm
Despite what you tell yourself, you’re nothing more than an idiot who can’t tell the difference between a man and a woman.
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8:59 pm
Matthew I like your glasses
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9:00 pm
you make me touch myself will I go to hell for that?
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9:08 pm
Faker, I have just one question for you: Why? Why do you insist on doing this? What do you hope to gain? With the fact that one’s name can easily be changed, I can just rename myself something else, so why? You must know this. So why? I mean, are you so intellectually crippled that the best way to piss someone off is to copy them? Is that it? Are you so mentally challenged that the only way you can feel at ease with yourself is to copy someone and make fun of them?
Why? Rather than just say random shit to piss them off, why not be intellectual about it? Why not give yourself an actual name and rather than just say random bullshit in some vain attempt to make me look like an idiot, instead try to disprove me and my points. You make someone look stupid by having proof they’re wrong, not by imitating them and acting like a retard.
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9:24 pm
why do you call me a faker? why do you deny me? why do you say you can easily change your name when you can not? why do you insist I am an old woman? why do you insist the old woman is a boy? why do you say you’re a boy when you are a girl? why does the caged bird sing? why do you pretend to disagree with these people? why do you pretend to not get this site? why do you call this site wrong when you’re just as much a part of it as everyone else? why don’t i have anything better to do than mess with you. why did you stand out to me as the most annoying person on this site?
BECAUSE…WAS THE ANSWER FROM GOD…
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4:22 pm
Years ago I wrote for a small local christian magazine that unfortunately folded after only it’s second year. They asked me to write an article on evolution and Mr. Darwin, my research was very informative.
It may surprise many of you to learn that Mr. Darwin was actually a very good christian man. He was so disturbed by what he observed on that island that he did not release it to be published until the end of is life. He was afraid that many people would take his theory of evolution that he had noticed on a small area of a small population of sea turtles, and apply it to all life on earth. Including Man.
Mr. Darwin did not believe that it applied to man and only published it as a younger man was about to usurp his work.
Reading the witch coven’s explanation of evolution as it has been applied to man is hilarious.
Evolutionists believe that we share a common ancestor to modern monkeys. We are not necessarily descendants of monkeys we are cousins to monkeys as we and monkeys share a common grand mother.
Evolution as it has been applied to human beings takes place as small mutations over time. These mutations on one individual help the individual survive, adapt and mate to pass along that genetic mutation, mutations over time add up and lead to another species, this new species mutates into another species and so forth and so on until we have a human.
This is what THEY believe. If your going to disagree with us and believe what they believe at least educate yourself on what they actually believe!
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4:24 pm
It may also surprise you to learn that there are many “christian scientists” out there that are christian evolutionists, as they believe that evolution did take place but only because GOD led that mutation and evolution.
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4:48 pm
“It may surprise many of you to learn that Mr. Darwin was actually a very good christian man.”
I’m going to stop you right there. By the time he even THOUGHT about evolution, his faith in Christianity had died. After that, he didn’t give two shits about the faith and decided he was going to do some exploring, and lived for roughly 23 years after he published his book.
“Mr. Darwin did not believe that it applied to man and only published it as a younger man was about to usurp his work.”
Yes he did. That ‘younger man’ you speak of was actually giving him some evidence to help prove that Darwin was onto something.
“Reading the witch coven’s explanation of evolution as it has been applied to man is hilarious.”
Yes, because taking two completely unrelated things and comparing them makes so much sense when you try to force a relation.
“Evolutionists believe that we share a common ancestor to modern monkeys. We are not necessarily descendants of monkeys we are cousins to monkeys as we and monkeys share a common grand mother.”
Holy shit, that’s the first time I’ve heard that sentence come out of a Christians mouth (read/fingers, whatever) and NOT ‘hur dur dey say we came from monkees hurr’.
“Evolution as it has been applied to human beings takes place as small mutations over time. These mutations on one individual help the individual survive, adapt and mate to pass along that genetic mutation, mutations over time add up and lead to another species, this new species mutates into another species and so forth and so on until we have a human.
This is what THEY believe. If your going to disagree with us and believe what they believe at least educate yourself on what they actually believe!”
Yeah, that’s how it’s taken place, but people like you are hellbent on not believing that. The idea that these mutations took place is blasphemous in religious followers, because that means that humanity wasn’t created in the image of god right away, that we eventually BECAME that image.
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4:57 pm
You know what, I am so sorry for what a dumb whore I have been. I think I am starting to see the light. Will you good folks pray for me?
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5:20 pm
Its just like the difference between MICRO (which can be observed) and MACRO (which can not be observed) evolutions.. Micro is real, i’ll admit it.. but not macro.. you don’t see dogs giving birth to cats.. and seals giving birth to pigs…
and all great scientists were creationists.. as i’ve said before.. Newton, Kelvin, Mendel, Einstein, Galileo, Copernicus, etc etc. the list goes on and on.. you dont think these are great scientific minds?
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6:09 pm
You can be one thing, but do things that are considered blasphemous and kicked out. Do keep in mind that until recently, EVERYONE was religious. All of the great thinkers were religious but at some point they stopped thinking in the way that others at the time did. What you said was nothing more than an empty statement.
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6:43 pm
you’ve still yet to give just ONE observable instance of macro-evolution.. thats what your scientific method says doesn’t it? a theory must be testable, repeatable, observable, etc. so where are those things? evolution does not qualify as a theory … its merely an interesting, but bad hypothesis
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6:47 pm
and the reason we have so many atheists today is because of the infiltration of the liberal, homogay movement pervading our universities for the last 40 years
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7:06 pm
Evolution takes millions of years to achieve on the scale you’re talking about, it’s physically impossible for any human being to witness macro evolution in their life time.
And apparently you don’t know the difference between theory and law.
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8:58 pm
actually, I do… theories explain why something happened.. so yes, evolution is a scientific theory.. supposedly… laws and models explain how these theories happen.. gravity is a theory, made up of laws… my problem is .. evolution does not fit the framework for being a “theory” since it can not be observed.. Time is the god of the evolutionist.. if we can’t prove something, we’ll hide behind “time”
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9:14 pm
No, theories are a guess as to how things work, while laws state that it is impossible for anything else to happen (more or less). Evolution is a theory, while gravity is a law. We can’t exactly PROVE that evolution is true unless we make a time machine, but you can keep letting go of pencils from any height until the cows come home and they will always drop. The fact that there’s evidence but no definite proof of evolution is exactly the same scenario you have with your bible; there’s evidence that God exists, but you can’t exactly prove it, you have to rely on ‘belief’.
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9:41 pm
no a HYPOTHESIS is a guess you moron.. a theory is a proven (almost since nothing can be “proven”) hypothesis… GRAVITY is a THEORY made up of laws.. do some research you fool
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9:43 pm
evolution is falsifiable … God is unfalsifable.. except we have falsified evolution … it is no longer valid .. obviously in science God can’t be proven one way or another.. its ccalled faith
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9:47 pm
seriously though.. go research what a hypothesis, theory, law and model are.. i can’t believe i have to teach an atheist about science
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9:54 pm
“no a HYPOTHESIS is a guess you moron.. a theory is a proven (almost since nothing can be “proven”) hypothesis… GRAVITY is a THEORY made up of laws.. do some research you fool”
You twit, a hypothesis is an idea of what would happen in an experiment, but has not been tested just yet. A theory is what happens after a hypothesis when it’s been tested, but not yet proven, and a law is after a theory when it’s been proven. YOU do some research before you start talking about things you don’t understand.
“evolution is falsifiable … God is unfalsifable.. except we have falsified evolution … it is no longer valid .. obviously in science God can’t be proven one way or another.. its ccalled faith”
You call it faith, others call it idiotic reasoning when you lack the back up and act all high and mighty. You have no physical evidence that God exists, you have a book that’s 2000 years old and rewritten and modified several times over, and it’s been proven that there are Christians who will abuse their power to get satisfaction in life. To senselessly and carelessly deny any advancements in science is to prove your lack of understanding or WANT of understanding of the universe, and rather than let others do and be on their own, you will decry and try your damned hardest to prove them wrong, yet fail when your own logic and reasoning is used against you.
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10:06 pm
show me one link to any scientific site that states those are the definitions of theory law and hypothesis.. because im about to send you about 30
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10:09 pm
You wanted just one? Here you go:
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry101/a/lawtheory.htm
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10:10 pm
heres one http://evidence-based-science.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-is-scientific-law-theory.html
to simplify it for you.. hypothesis= guess.. theory = big picture of “why”.. law = specific mathematic “how’s
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10:13 pm
these are the citations from the page i just send you.. Futuyma, D. J. 1979. Evolutionary Biology. Sinauer Assoc.
Krimsley, V. S. 1995. Introductory Chemistry, 2nd Ed. Brooks/Cole Publishing Co., Pacific Grove.
Lincoln, R. J., G. A. Boxshall, and P. F. Clark. 1990. A dictionary of ecology, evolution and systematics. Cambridge Univ. Press.
Moore, J. A. 1984. Science as a way of knowing–evolutionary biology. Amer. Zool. 24: 467-534.
Oxford English Dictionary, 1961; Oxford University Press, London.
Steen, E. B. 1971. Dictionary of Biology. Barnes and Nobel.
originally from here http://science.kennesaw.edu/~rmatson/3380theory.html
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10:11 pm
dude thats about.com i just read that.. i would not take their word for it
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10:15 pm
you are making it like its some kinda hierarchy like it goes.. hypothesis bcomes a theory which bcomes a law.. thats not how it works.. only to a scientiic illiterate like yourself it would…
hypothesis is the guess.. a theory explains this hypothesis when the same result has been repeated.. laws are the hard mathematics behind the theory
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10:16 pm
And your link actually proves my point, so congrats, either we’re agreeing and neither of us are realizing it, or someone doesn’t understand what they’re talking about, and I’m more than willing to bet on you.
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10:19 pm
“hypothesis is the guess.. a theory explains this hypothesis when the same result has been repeated.. laws are the hard mathematics behind the theory”
And how is that different from what I said? And YOU just made it sound something of a hierarchy yourself!
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10:21 pm
you dont understand what you are reading… you have said repeatedly that a hypothesis becomes a theory and a theory becomes a law… i have told you that they are 3 completely different things and you refuse to grasp that no matter how much you read them.. as i said.. THEORIES are made up of LAWS.. Newton’s THEORY of gravitation is made up of all sorts of different newtonian laws
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10:23 pm
i feel like i need to find a simplified version of these definitions so yu can get i.. heres some info on gravitational theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation
the specific laws that make it up are things like.. the law that deals with how fast it takes an object to fall.. thing like that.. but it allfalls under the umberella of a theory…
perhaps we are agreeing on somethings and not realzing it but it seems to be you thats not grasping this fully
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10:29 pm
“No, theories are a guess as to how things work, while laws state that it is impossible for anything else to happen (more or less). Evolution is a theory, while gravity is a law”
thats you calling theories a “guess” … theories are proven .. they are not “guesses” as i keep saying.. the hypothesis is more or less the “guess” not the theory.. from hypothesis to theory/law it IS hierarchical… but there is no going from “theory” to “law” … theories and laws are both “proven” but they explain different things.. a theory is the big picture..a law is the specifics.. you keep saying a theory becomes law
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10:32 pm
“A theory is what happens after a hypothesis when it’s been tested, but not yet proven, and a law is after a theory when it’s been proven. ”
your exact words.. “a law is after a theory when its been proven” .. no it is not for the last time.. theories and laws are one in the same.. they just speak of different things
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10:32 pm
If a hypothesis is proven, why keep the hypothesis? If a theory is proven, then why are there still things called ‘theories’ which are not explained in full detail?
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10:34 pm
http://priuschat.com/forums/freds-house-pancakes/36377-difference-between-scientific-theory-scientific-law.html tha explains it a little clearer in the first post
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10:36 pm
the hypothesis is not kept once the theory is proven… as i said.. the hypothesis does become a theory once proven.. buta theory does not become a law.. the laws help explain the theory with calculations
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10:39 pm
and the theories are explained in full detail… they use laws to explain these details… gravity is the best example.. the big picture is this abstract concept we know exists called the theory of gravity… but all the details, called laws provide the hard math to help you explain exactly how its working
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10:42 pm
theres no such thing as “the law of gravity”… there are the LAWS of gravity.. which make up the general theory of gravity..
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10:43 pm
even the atheist scientists say that there are laws and facts that make up the general theory of evolution…
in science the theory is much more important than the laws.. the theory is the big picture
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10:45 pm
another good website.. http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1999-10/940942724.Sh.r.html
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10:46 pm
I did a bit more research and it appears as if both sides are true depending on their use. So, I do apologize for the insults, it appears as if you are right, at least partially. I’m still getting results that proves my point, but it does seem as if the whole thing isn’t as black and white as I had imagined it.
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10:47 pm
interestingly enough.. in that post they talk about how an educator has the very same misconception about gravity as many laypeople.. he calls it a law and not a theory
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10:48 pm
yea i dont mean to insult either.. i honestly do not understand it completely either…
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10:50 pm
im sure we’re both right to a degree … like i said.. im not a scientist so i ccan’t explain it perfectly
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10:53 pm
i see what you’re saying though.. from the outset it seems a law is more important because laws should be unshakable and can not be proven wrong ever.. a theory should be able to be falsified.. it really just depends on how strong the theory is… i mean i guess if you said.. “it takes 1.2 seconds when i drop this ball for it to hit the floor” that would always be true.. its a law.. but it doesn’t explain WHY this rmote is hitting the floor .. thats where the theory comes in
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10:57 pm
We can at least agree that men do get heated sometimes and may not see the other side’s point until all’s said and done. I’m starting to see the major difference now. The law is the action, while the theory explains why. The Law of Gravity states that things will go downward while the Theory of Gravity explains why.
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11:02 pm
indeed… really a good way to look at it is.. a theory is baseless without its laws… and laws are meaningless without a theory around them
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11:04 pm
That’s also a good way to look at it.
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11:11 pm
if you end up learning anything else about the subject, let me know.. cause like i said.. theres still plenty i dont understand
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11:21 pm
I’ll be sure to do so if the situation arises.
Though, I must say, I do think I found new respect for you. And maybe some hope that someone else will change as well, if she ever decides to show up.
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6:47 pm
Madame,
Darwin was a Mohammedan.
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6:54 pm
Thats true.. i believe there might be some kind of connection between darwin and the mohammadists.. i just haven’t quite put my finger on it.. no doubt that Obama Ben Ladden was some sort of evolutionist .. he also followed hitler’s plan of eugenics to commit genocide so his people could “evolve”
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7:07 pm
Now you’re just being stupid.
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9:04 pm
just like me
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8:21 pm
All i know is that whatever god or goddess created was the first cell a long long time ago and whatever created us guides the line of evolution and how it all works.
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9:00 pm
thats a nice thought.. but it is not true.. first off.. there is no “goddess”.. only a Male Patriarchal God… and secondly.. He described how the world was created in the Book of Genesis. and theres nothing in there to indicate it had anythig to do with evolution..
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9:02 pm
According to your book, you have to remember that not everyone has your beliefs.
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9:05 pm
not everyone believes your hocus pocus crap either buck tooth
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9:11 pm
Shannon you need to understand that your “beliefs” are delusional, childish and ridiculous.
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9:14 pm
Why because there not something you understand?
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9:19 pm
Any child can understand your ignorant New age beliefs.
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9:20 pm
So did CI just admit that children are more intelligent than him?
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9:23 pm
See you are one of the reasons why people think that I am trying to give Wicca a bad name! You insult me like this and when I defend myself from you calling my beliefs ignorant, I am the bad guy.
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9:28 pm
children are smarter than CI and he is smarter than me
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9:52 pm
Shannon, blaming others is not our way. Only you are responsible for your own actions.
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9:58 pm
and only you are responsible for forest fires too
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8:58 pm
I am happy these 2 Christian heroes are exposing the racist atheist god Charles Darwin and his delusional drug induced theory.
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9:03 pm
yes, C.I… the theory does sound like some kinda mystic mushroom tripped or LFD tripped
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9:04 pm
How is Darwin racist when you’re the one who’s apart of a religion that believed black people were subhuman and perfect candidates for slaves?
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9:06 pm
I mean I understand slavery but only for the gimp in my basement
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9:09 pm
also I am obviously too stupid to understand that those people were not good christians and are not us from 200 years in the future
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9:17 pm
Yet there are still people who exist today who will bend their religion to make it seem as if what they are doing is good, Faker. Can you honestly say that there are no Christians today who will manipulate the teachings or act as if what they are doing is holy?
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9:20 pm
If they manipulate the teachings they are not Christians.
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9:22 pm
But what if they believe so? Are you saying that they are not Christian? How do you know? Do you follow what Jesus said, to live your neighbor and to treat others as you would want them to treat you?
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9:32 pm
Yes, i try to follow the teachings of Jesus.
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9:41 pm
Then why do you insist on harassing and insulting people because of their beliefs?
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10:45 pm
isnt that what you do everytime you post on here
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10:06 pm
Because i love everyone. Believing in false religions is a ticket straight to hell.
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10:08 pm
But you’re harming others by interfering with their lives. You are invading their privacy by forcing your beliefs onto them.
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9:09 pm
Ya know just because the book says it doesn’t mean its right and doesn’t jesus fit the description of the devil? He seems to be all happy dandy and our saviour but you turn around and he sends you down to imginary hell.
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9:12 pm
you retard that is not tru
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9:15 pm
true.* You*
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9:09 pm
Wake up L.N your god was an evil racist psychopath.
Jesus was not racist.
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9:10 pm
i know that i am just confused
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9:16 pm
My ‘god’? Who is my ‘god’? If I don’t believe in a god, then how can I have one? And even though Jesus was not racist, his followers certainly are.
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9:21 pm
Charles Darwin and (godless) science.
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9:23 pm
And who says that Charles Darwin is a god and not a scientist? Charles Darwin did not invite the universe, nor science, not anything else, so how can he be a god, especially if he is largely apart of a group of people who reject the idea of God?
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9:33 pm
yeah god did not invite the universe to the party
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9:30 pm
He is the founder of the atheist cult and you people worship him. I don’t think that he is a god, You think that.
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9:31 pm
He did not found any cult he just a revolutionary scientist who discovered some of the move incredible things in history.
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9:32 pm
most*
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9:36 pm
*moist* which is what this convo is getting me!
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9:38 pm
You are a freak.
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9:40 pm
Bianco, don’t believe that LN you have to be careful, there is a faker around.
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9:42 pm
The easiest way to tell who’s real and who’s actually the faker (i.e. Xenu) is to look at the names. There’s a certain point that’s different.
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9:44 pm
Yea I figured it out, I can also tell because you are not as ignorant as they are.
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9:50 pm
oh I have an extra point? It is called a PERIOD which is what I have as a woman fake LN deny’s her pussy and me, and I am not an old woman
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10:01 pm
So Faker admitted that it hails from /b/, that explains everything. Sorry folks, but until they raid a board, we’re stuck with them for awhile.
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10:04 pm
You should get a picture L.N, maybe the NAMBLA Logo ?
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10:06 pm
Unfortunately CI, that’s YOUR emblem.
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10:10 pm
what the fuck is a /b/? I said no such thing I dont even know what that is
man I am such a stupid bitch
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10:13 pm
That is a great idea CI but either I am not smart enough to figure that out or I am not proud enoug of myself and who I am or I will prove that I am a chick
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10:14 pm
enough*
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10:56 pm
enough* what*
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9:40 pm
No, and now you’re just making things up CI. You DO know that you’re going to Hell for lying, right?
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9:46 pm
Ohhhhh one has a . after the n.
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9:48 pm
Trololol Calm down.
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10:00 pm
i am not a troll i do not live under a bridge
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9:49 pm
yea for whatever reason someone is trying to make the real LN miserable.
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10:01 pm
shut up before I tell your witch friends was a sack of turds you are again!
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10:03 pm
Why are you so hateful? I admitted I was wrong, why cant you?
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10:07 pm
And the creative troll’s mind is going to go ‘i’m l.n this is how i’ve always acted hahahahahahahahahaha1111111111lolcats!’
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10:59 pm
why do you insist on calling me a troll, that hurts me and makes my vagina weep. my vag really weeps a lot, one of you chicks got a cyber tampon?
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10:08 pm
My mind is spinning….
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10:12 pm
Give it a week or two, eventually the troll will find something else to do with it’s time.
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10:57 pm
im actually with the real LN here.. i do not think identities should be stolen on here.. this is a serious Christian website
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11:05 pm
You know as much as a disagree with you, I actually agree, even though I am not Christian, the whole LN thing is just to much, I love the honest debates, I hate when people push to where I get mean and vulgar, I have admitted to August this same thing in the past. Everything with this seems to have gotten way more out of hand than it should have, am I admitting I made a mistake yes. Will I continue to come here, yes. But I also thing that there are some Christian members hear that really need to take the advice also.
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10:12 pm
Im with you this has gotten out of hand.
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11:01 pm
am I the only one having fun here?
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11:06 pm
yes you are the only one who thinks this is fun
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11:19 pm
ur not nice
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10:28 pm
And I’m convinced that the site has broken down. I’m willing to bet it was because of Faker.
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11:02 pm
yes I get spoofed and the site is falling apart, I am SO important!
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11:06 pm
Clearly you lack the knowledge of how a website works. You, Matthew, and I have been posting in rapid succession for awhile now, which probably caused the site to slow down and picked a point where it last remembered what was going on. Now it’s functioning again.
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11:21 pm
thanks for explaining the internet billy gates
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11:24 pm
can we at least admit now that i am not the fake LN .. nor am i Sister Susan
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11:30 pm
Yes. What Bruce said actually makes sense. I recall reading a reply meant for him that I said, but Alison responded to it, thinking it was meant for her.
If you happen to meet Susan sometime soon, let her know I have a message for her.
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11:32 pm
See L.N, We can agree on this sometimes too. I stood up for you even.
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11:33 pm
*things not this. oops
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11:38 pm
awwwww can we make out?
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11:33 pm
You know I would be really sad to find out if it was Alison. Just because I thought even though she could be a little mean, hell I have been to, but I just don’t want to see it being her going to this extreme to stir up trouble.
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11:35 pm
Just read a couple fake L.N. posts and a couple angry Manson posts and you’ll see the connection.
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11:37 pm
I have been and they do have me thinking, I was just saying I would be sad if it was. But whoever it was, it was very wrong of them.
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11:42 pm
oh sniffy sniffs.
u found me out
or did you
either way i gotta go, later bitches
oh, by the way fake LN like the governator
I’LL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
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11:43 pm
I’m not exactly too thrilled at the idea of it being her either, but Bruce DOES have a point. I also thought about it and realized that Susan had a point as well; what would she gain from this, if she decided to just add a period to my name and prance around, acting as me, when so far she’s been more intelligent with her comebacks. It’s almost like she’s an artist and going under a different name would leave her without the credit.
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11:45 pm
Yea it really does make sense, I think a lot of things on here have gotten out of hand myself, this one just takes the cake.
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12:16 am
im startin to think its alison too.. the writing style is the same incoherent, vile run on sentences… and shannon you were never anywhere near as mean as alison.. she said she wanted to feed my dead children to me and weird crap like that
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12:20 am
But I did say some not nice things myself, I feel bad about it now, I just get very defensive when people call me the kids of things that Intellectual, Susan, and Harold have. Its just the way I was raised.
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12:28 am
“It’s almost like she’s an artist and going under a different name would leave her without the credit.”
Did you just call me an artist?
It is a compliment but still there is an undercurrent of insult to it!
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10:38 pm
Here is a good story for all of you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nql1_RKwQt0
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11:04 pm
that was so entertaining! alice in wonderland but shitty.
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12:04 am
Rubbish!
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12:03 am
I think we can all agree people like fake L.N. Claire and Alison Manson only exist to separate us and divide us. They try to turn us against each other, not because they have some goal or point to make, but just oit of hated for the world and the lack of love in their lives. Just yesterday, Alison said she wanted to be the next Hitler and kill Christians and Jews. Claire a month ago posted a picture of an infected foreskin here, a site which minors can freely visit. She also posted an article that had to be pulled that had embedded pornographic videos involving animals. And well Fake L.N. you can see right here.
All these things are designed to divide us. We need to be uniters… Not dividers….
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12:21 am
Amen Brother Weisz… Christwire welomes healthy debate from the atheist left… like i said.. we have never made death threats to any of you.. i know shannon said shes been threatened before.. but understand that there are a lot of trolls on this site as you can see.. one thing you’ll never see is people like myself, or brother weisz, or sister xenu, or brother billings or brother bowers or brother gould or brother keating, etc etc.. all those that make up the heart and soul of christwire, ever threaten you because we disagree
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12:26 am
Well like I said I was actually told I “should be put to death” that was my first experience here, so yea you could say I came out swinging so to speak, but really who wouldn’t?
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12:35 am
Who told you that?
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12:42 am
Luarlene Tyranna Shores, on this thread http://christwire.org/2011/04/twilight-breaking-dawn-sex-scene-photos-leaked-parental-warning-christian-movie-review/
and I am not the only one she said it to either.
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12:38 am
understandable.. like i said.. im sure it was some kinda troll.. like this fake LN
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12:29 am
What in tarnation happened during my nap? Everyone is talking like peace loving hippies!
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12:30 am
Isn’t that kind of a good thing though?
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12:32 am
we’ve made a temporary alliance in order to root out the fakers and trolls… much like when America was forced to make a temporary alliance with Bin Laden to fight the commies
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12:37 am
wait…what?
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12:41 am
we’ve come to the conclusion that the fake L.N. and Alison are trolls who are ruining the integrity of this family site… theres reason to believe that Alison IS the fake LN
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12:55 am
put it his way, Sister Xenu.. in our analogy today.. You, me, Brother August and the rest are The United States… L.N., and Shannon are Ben Ladden and Al Qaeda… and Fake LN and Alison and Claire are The Soviet empire… this is the Cold war right now so the Communist Empire is the greater of two evils
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1:04 am
You DO know it’s ‘Bin Laden’, right? I’m just saying that his whole name is ‘Osama bin Laden’.
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1:34 am
Obama Bin Laden, fine whatever.. its just an analogy
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12:44 am
I like Shannon. She is a good person. Real L.N sounds like a swell guy too. I think their alignment with Claire blinded them into not seeing who we really are and it also blinded us into thinking they were as evil as she was.
As long as we all stay away from Claire, I think we can have peace in our time.
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12:49 am
Actually it stems from the fact that we aren’t Christian. Some of us are more extreme than others, and some of us can be rather extreme when it’s not necessary, but to be quite blunt when you have people like Adam and Billings and Tyson as the major representatives of your side, it’s not exactly all that difficult to cause a total frenzy of hatred on the other.
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12:53 am
But Brothers Billings and Bowers have never threatened anyone.. you may not agree with them but they feel they have your best interest at heart and only want to save you.. they don’t want to see you in hell.. even if you don’t believe that stuff.. you must at least respect their intentions .. even if you believe those intentions are misguided … Alison and Claire want to see us all dead
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12:58 am
However, Tyson believes that black people are evil at their very heart (Abe as well), and believes that anyone who’s Mexican, even if remotely, is instantly illegal, and I’ve seen what Billings has said, I’ve read some of the things he has claimed.
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1:03 am
well you aren’t black or illegal are you?
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1:04 am
Well L.N, we may interpret what they say differently. But something keeps you coming back. Respond with love and an open heart and not Claire-like hatred and maybe we can learn from each other.
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1:10 am
But Matthew, does it matter? Is carelessly assuming that everyone of a race evil or illegal apart of the teachings? By that logic, the acts of one white man mean that all white men are evil, murderous monsters. Just because there’s a handful of black people who do horrible things, or a handful of mexican people who are illegal, does not mean that all of them are like that.
I can try, but there are just some things I refuse to back down on, one of those points being the racism that’s all over this site, along with the idea that any media that isn’t Christian is immediately evil, or that liberals are terrible people. Rather than bitch about what the liberals are doing, why not work with them and come up with the middle ground that the whole idea of political sides were based on?
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1:16 am
LN.. we can not compromise with evil.. thats one of the things that WE refuse to back down on.. we refuse to compromise with the evils of liberalism and satanism/atheism
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1:24 am
If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, couldn’t that apply to good and evil? What you call evil I could call good and what I call evil you could call good. In situations like that, who’s right and who’s wrong? If I have proof that I’m right and you have proof that you’re right, and somehow both of these things do not necessarily cancel each other out, who’s the one who’s right? Is it not possible to shift and bend? Is it so much to ask for that you just let people be happy with their lives? What if they’re of the belief that they’re right, yet it stems from a similar branch of your own faith?
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12:53 am
I agree with LN, everyone can just get plain defensive when attacked, which both sides are guilty of, I think if most of us, ie: the ones who come here regularly, agree to not attack each other, it would be better around here.
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12:58 am
Yes I agree Shannon… Maybe you can try to put yourself in our shoes for a minute.. If you knew your neighbors house was burning and he was inside sleeping.. you’d want to wake him up and get him out of there, right? no matter what.. to save his life…
thats how we feel about you.. except it is your soul that is in danger of burning in hell if you keep messing around with this witch craft stuff… we can’t bare to see another human being be cast into the lake of fire.. so we are trying to help you now before its too late
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12:59 am
listen to this.. proof of hell… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6h2dZ51iy8
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1:03 am
Great proof brother Matthew, now atheists (L.N) can’t deny that hell is a real place.
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1:04 am
However it is our choice to remain, is it not? You may think we are in danger, but you can not force us to change our minds, and saying certain things is just asking for trouble. If we say ‘no’, then you’re only option is to walk away, wish us the best, and continue on. You can pray for us, but if we do not and will not believe in your faith, you can’t insult us. Do remember that there are things in this world that aren’t as black and white as they seem. I do believe our discussion on the definitions of law and theory helped bring that up, did it not? What you perceive to be evil could in fact be good. Not only that, but isn’t that the better thing to do, to encourage goodness? Isn’t the greatest irony for the devil is knowing that the dark arts and magic he would bestow upon people being used for good, to cure the world of the plagues that he sends upon humanity?
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1:04 am
Yes I do understand, but my point is, how can you go somewhere you honestly believe does not exist? I never said I didn’t believe in a heaven of a god, we just have different versions of them. But think about this, you know all those people that have near death experience? They always come back saying it was light and beautiful, you don’t hear a single one saying it was burring and they saw lava or whatever. You cannot honestly tell me you think ever one of those was not meant for your “hell” Just something to think about, its the kind of stuff I do.
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1:10 am
Shannon, a lot of Christians believe that hell is not fire and brimstone, but the complete separation from God’s love.
And being that we are basking in his love right now (even if we don’t know it) that without it life would be more terrible than it currently is.
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1:13 am
But why would they all describe it as a beautiful place, I was actually just watching a show about that the other day, I watch a lot of Discovery Channel, and National Geographic. I do believe there is something beyond, how would we have ghosts and spirits if there was nothing? But I am just not sure what that thing is.
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1:13 am
shannon.. just because you don’t believe it exists doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist … heres a man who went to hell and came back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ6b7zsqUl8
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1:19 am
I watched you video, my verdict is still out though, I guess you can call me a little to scientific, but some sounds on youtube isn’t enough to change my mind.
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1:26 am
its not just on youtube, shannon.. this was a big story… discovered by scientists no less.. they dont want to freak the public out by making it too big.. but its leaked out anyway
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8:57 am
You aren’t evil, Shannon, but the dancing naked in the moonlight has got to stop.
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1:17 am
“But why would they all describe it as a beautiful place, I was actually just watching a show about that the other day, I watch a lot of Discovery Channel, and National Geographic. I do believe there is something beyond, how would we have ghosts and spirits if there was nothing? But I am just not sure what that thing is.”
I agree with you Shannon. I believe in a heaven and a hell. I think hell may be a beautiful place on the surface. After all Satan was the most beautiful angel
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1:21 am
So your reasoning is that they could have just been entering hell? Seen the facade? Interesting theory. Still not 100% convinced but its something else to think about.
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1:24 am
Shannon, I do not hold any answers. Its all just theory. But I think it would be ignorant for us Christians to assume that Satan, hell, anything demonic to be ugly on the surface.
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1:30 am
Have I at least convinced you that I am not satanic or evil, that we just tend to disagree?
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1:32 am
i dont think you’re evil shannon.. i think you’re misguided.. and you’re getting mixed up in satanic ideas.. but yea i wanna finish the test im giving you down below about lying…
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1:36 am
All I am trying to say is Pagan/Wicca is not a satanic religion, yes there are some that do that stuff, personally that scares me to bad to even attempt it, I played with a Ouija board once and it scared me to death, did I learn my lesson, yes, do I think there is evil out there, yes, but I don’t mess with it.
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1:22 am
and besides shannon.. how can you believe in a Heaven if you don’t believe in a hell? do you think EVERYONE gets to go to heaven? that wouldn’t seem very fair now would it ? if there a good there must be an evil.. if there is a heaven there must be a hell.. God is a just judge… if you went to court for breakng the law and the judge said.. you know what.. im just gonna let you off the hook because im compassionate.. what kinda judge would that be? law breakers must be punished.. and we are all breakers of God’s law
i have a question for you, Shannon.. have you ever told a lie before?
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1:26 am
Of course I have told a lie, who hasn’t? I also never said that everyone goes to heaven either. Have you ever thought of reincarnation? Maybe heaven in the place you go to when you finally get it right? I never said my theories were perfect, I have been a sceptic since I was 15 so I have had a lot of time to think about this.
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1:29 am
SO if you’ve told a lie… what does that make you? what do you call someone who has told a lie?
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1:32 am
Ok I am not sure if I am following you here, everybody lies. Granted some do it worse than others, personally I am a horrible liar so I don’t do it very often. But I am not sure what your getting at here.
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1:35 am
i know.. i’ve lied before.. but my question is.. what do you call someone that tells lies? what is the name of a person who tells lies? you call them a….
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1:37 am
A liar of course.
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1:33 am
and don’t be shy.. i’ve told lies before too in my time.. i just want to know what you think you call someone who has told a lie
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1:39 am
ok next question.. have you ever stolen anything… even if its something small.. like a pack of gum when you were 6 .. just anything.. stolen anything at all.. i know i have before
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1:43 am
That I know I haven’t that I remember, of course most of my childhood wasn’t the easiest so if I did I don’t remember a lot of it.
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1:43 am
and im not asking you these question to be a jerk or anything… Im just giving you a differen perspective on things.. all these questions i am also guilty of.. so anyway yea.. have you ever stolen anything before?
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1:45 am
Not that I honestly remember.
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1:47 am
well have you ever committed adultery then?
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1:48 am
Never been married, and it was my boyfriend who cheated on me. so that a no to. Unless you count messing around with his best friend after we broke up?
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1:51 am
well Jesus says that anyone who has lusted after another in their heart has already committed adultery.. doesn’t matter if you were married or ever cheated on anyone.. so im assuming you’ve looked at other men and thought of sexual things about them.. i mean who hasn’t?
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1:53 am
Yea pretty much everyone has.
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1:58 am
ya.. everyone has indeed.. so by your own admission so far.. you’re a liar and an adulterer .. and since you’re a liar.. its hard to trust that when you say you haven’t stolen anything.. so that could possibly make you a theif.. so you’ve already broken 2 and possibly 3 of the 10 commandments…
lets just pretend for a minute that God, Heaven and Hell exist.. do you think you would go to Heaven or Hell based on the fact that you’ve broken God’s Law numerous times?
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2:01 am
Ok but isn’t god supposed to forgive your sins? If he is so loving why would he commit you to an eternity in hell for something so minor? That by your own admission everyone has done?
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2:05 am
Its not minor to God.. ever since we fell after Adam ate the apple.. God has demanded we be perfect like Him.. because we USED to be without sin like God, before Adam ate the apple…
but thats the point.. EVERYONE has broken God’s laws.. we are all sinners.. we all deserve hell…
But thats where the good news comes in… God loved us so much that He did not want to see us in hell.. So He sent His only son to DIE for our sins on the cross.. His name was Jesus Christ… He paid the penalty for our sins so we don’t have to… and all we have to do is accept His help and God will forgive us of everything… All you have to do to get into heaven is repent your sins and believe in Him! isn’t that great news?
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2:12 am
Ok all that may be true, but why then is there still so much suffering in the world? Why so people get put through so much stuff they cant handle it. Yes I am speaking from experience, and that experience is why I lost my faith and found something I like better. Im not denying god, I don’t even deny there was a Jesus. But how can only that one religion be the right answer? Especially since there are so many that have been around longer.
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2:25 am
most of the religions that are older than christianity aren’t around anymore actually.. very few have survived … and the suffering is because God gave us free will and decided not to interfere with our lives and nature .. He just wants us to have faith and we will be rewarded when we pass on
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2:30 am
The kind of suffering Im am talking about is not your everyday my life is difficult because I choose it to be. My life if/was difficult because of things other people chose for me, some of them I am eternally grateful for, but others made my life 100x more difficult than it could have been. I didn’t choose any of that, so why am/was I being punished for something I had no control over?
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2:37 am
because as i said.. you have free will.. everyone else does too.. and nature has its own free will.. “On the 7th day, God rested” … He doesn’t get involved in our affairs while we are on this earth.. He isstill resting.. He will come again though to right all the wrongs.. but in the meantime.. we have to have faith and deal with life on life’s terms
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2:40 am
Well if you have had to go through some of the things I have, maybe you would understand why I think the way I do.
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2:45 am
I’ve gone through a lot of horrible things myself.. I lost my first daughter to leukemia.. and i wanted to curse God’s name! but i prayed instead and in the end He made my faith stronger.. making me realize He has a special plan for everyone
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2:46 am
have you ever thought that maybe your life is so horrible right now because you don’t have Jesus on your side? if you don’t let Him into your heart.. he can’t help you.. its always worth a shot.. i never really went to church before my daughter died.. and now i go all the time and my life is blessed in so many different ways
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2:50 am
Well, I lost both my parents within 3 month when I was 15, after that I found out I was actually adopted and my “brother” was my father, my real mother was no where in the picture. My real father was emotionally abusive. I had to support myself from the time I was 15 because he didn’t care about me. I was told my mom never wanted me, which in fact it was my dad, I was told this to my face when he said “if it was up to me you would not be here” I met my mom for the first time when I was 17 by her showing up at my work ordering food. So yea I say I have a good reason for thinking the way I do.
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3:02 am
im so sorry to hear that.. boy you do have a hard life, Shannon.. but remember.. these are the things we can’t control … You can’t do anything about the hand that was dealt to you.. you can only control how you react to it.. and as time passes you can learn to control your life more and more… and with the help of Jesus in your life.. it gives you the strength to do this much easier… like i said.. it took losing my daughter to make me born again.. maybe God is giving you a sign through these tragedies that you need to admit that you are weak right now and accept the Lord into your life to give you strength in these dark times.. it helps more than you can think.. especially to know that there is someone who loves you no matter what, like God
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3:05 am
and remember that we here at Christwire also love you too.. we’re only hard on you sometimes because we don’t want to see your beautiful soul damned to hell thats all
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3:07 am
Well like I said I have never denied that there is a god, or even a Jesus, I am just skeptical about everything else. I don’t see the evil in everything like you guys do, because I have been through what I have I have no fear of that stuff. Or anything for that matter.
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3:14 am
So you believe there was a Jesus Christ… thats a good step.. even though its a historical fact, many atheists dont even think he existed.. which is crazy… well if you start reading about Him you’ll realize what he stood for… Love…
Now i have a question for you.. whatever you have been doing in the past as far as your religious beliefs hasn’t worked so well now has it? you’ve said yourself that you’ve had a hard life.. and by what you told me.. i definitely agree… So whats the harm in at least trying something different for a change.. giving Jesus a chance to see if He can change your life.. it worked for me.. I’m not saying it will work for you.. but theres nothing to lose by at least giving it a try for a little while
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3:17 am
See that was what I did in the past, I have only been studying this for roughly a year or so, this is the change I made because I was not happy.
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3:21 am
perhaps you weren’t happy before, not because you had chosen the wrong religion… but because you had gone about this religion the wrong way… there are better ways to accept Jesus into your heart.. and sometimes organized religions aren’t the best way.. you need to develop your own personal relationship with Him before you do anythig else.. that cna’t be taught at churches.. it has to come from inside you
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3:24 am
Well I agree with you that organized religion sucks, and churches suck. But the rest I think we are going to have to agree to disagree for now.
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3:35 am
well.. how about this.. what would be the harm in just trying Jesus from a new perspective again? you’re not gonna lose anything.. if you don’t like Him.. you can renounce Him again.. just try Him for a week, lets say… you know there are 2.1 billion Christians in this world.. they must be on to something.. many are living happy, Christ-filled lives… you won’t lose a thing.. money back guarantee
… if it all means nothing to you right now… what would be the harm in saying a prayer with me right now? i can lead you in it.. it will only take 30 seconds
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3:40 am
If you just try saying this prayer with me.. i’ll leave you alone about trying to get you to change your beliefs.. i just want you to give it a try.. give up 30 seconds of your life to pray with me.. i’ll give you the words so we can pray together
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1:27 am
There are indeed certain faiths that all will go to Heaven, just some sooner than others, and that Hell is just a prison until they serve their time.
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4:43 pm
i just can’t really picture adolf hitler in heaven.. at any time.. ever.. and isn’t that just purgatory, that prison you speak of?
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2:46 am
Not that I disagree but how did we come to the conclusion that Claire is the all evil beast?
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2:50 am
wwell.. she openly threatens the lives of christwire clergymen for one.. and shes also an admitted member of a coven
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3:00 am
I dont want to damage this delicate ceasefire…but I dont know how she is different from the rest, but I will leave that question for another day.
Perhaps we can all start over with a air of friendship and brotherhood?
I wonder how long this will last, but I am game to play.
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3:08 am
they’re mostly like that, Sister Susan.. im really only making exception for Shannon because i see love in her heart… I see that God wants to get in as well.. I feel L.N. might be able to be saved too.. that is our mission isn’t it? to save these poor souls?
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12:18 pm
We need saving?
Another lie from the jew history book, you want us to believe in your white guilt mentality. there is no sin only the preaching fear.
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4:41 pm
Welll considering you’ve got a one way ticket to hell.. then yes you need saving
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3:12 am
Well, it would certainly help me see you in a new light if you apologize for your harassment towards me Susan.
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3:13 am
I agree.
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4:51 pm
I would like apologies from you guys as well but lets just agree that isn’t going to happen and move on.
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5:01 pm
i thought maybe i could pray with shann first, but apparently thats not going to happen either… So if shes not going to pray, the least she can do is apologize.. at least to Sister Susan… Sister Susan is 81 years old, she doesn’t have much time left, Shannon.. Please tell her you’re sorry and make an old woman smile
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7:09 pm
well .. LN .. Sister Susan isn’t the one mocking God.. so you might want to apologize first
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11:41 pm
lets all apologize to god, that will be enough.
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8:54 am
You have some nerve, liberal. Repent!
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5:23 pm
Sorry just not into the whole prayer thing, no offense to you, its just not for me, as for Susan I am sorry for the things that I have said, but you also said some pretty hurtful things yourself.
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5:28 pm
That was very brave of you to apologize to Sister Susan… as far as the whole prayer thing goes.. I understand that you aren’t into it.. but as i said earlier.. would it really kill you to try something different, just for 30 seconds? i mean if the prayers dont mean anything than it shouldn’t mean anything to you to say the prayer with me.. as i said.. if you repeat this prayer after me and you didn’t like it.. i will leave you alone about your beliefs forever
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5:33 pm
if anything.. saying this prayer would give a little joy to Sister Susan in the little time left she has on this earth… and i can guarantee she will apologize to you tenfold if you do
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6:29 pm
I apologized, I don’t mean to offend you by not wanting to pray with you, its just not something I am comfortable with doing.
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7:08 pm
i know you apologized. what im saying is.. Susan will apologize to you if you pray with me.. I can probably get some of the other brothers too.. and then you never have to pray again if you dont want to.. one time thing
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11:38 pm
I did not put conditions on me giving an apology, their should not be conditions on me getting one.
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8:52 am
You would first have to give up your witchcraft, Sharnon, and stop dancing with goats.
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9:07 pm
Trey Anastillo KILLED his own sister. You Phish fans are going to hell
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4:08 am
The lack of education on here is astounding. Nobody here even understands the human evolutionary past or the endless evidence we study around it. We are apes, not ‘monkee’s', and still are. Many different species of apes have existed over millions of years, we have endless fossils and the DNA to prove it outright. Its like there is millions of people who discuss this who don’t have a clue, go and read a book! Chimpanzee’s and humans shared a common ancestor (were the same species) around 5-9 million years ago, but due to seperation of environment evolved independantly, this is fact. Recently a species was found from around 4 million years ago that very well could be our ancestor or at least an idea of what we may have looked like. Ardipithecus Ramidus he was named. Please join the real discussion rather than this sillyness.
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7:21 am
spoken like a true candidate for hell’s lake of fire
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5:19 pm
I’m here just to add a few facts into an argument that is certainly lacking them.
1: We didn’t evolve from monkeys, we share a common ancestor with them. This isn’t speculation, it’s fact. We have uncovered quite a few fossils of these ancestors, including one that was found no more than two weeks ago.
We also share roughly 99% of our DNA with most primates.
2: Gay’s have nothing to do with the spread of HIV. You claim that it is their rampant drug use but numerous studies have shown that drug use is lower in gay populations than in straight.
3: Atheism is not satanism, and to say so is just ignorance. Atheists believe in no god of any kind. You can claim that science is our religion but science is just the application of observation and experimentation. In a lot of ways it’s just the use of common sense.
4: Where do you get your facts about Darwin from? I can’t even begin to imagine how twisted your mind has to be to come up with even half of this fictitious crap.
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