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RedditHow can a tree be 9,550 years old, when the Bible proves the fact that Eath was created 6,000 years ago?
Evolutionary scientists are a delusional lot of people. Here is how they think life works.
Evolutionaries think that 50 million years ago, there was all emptiness. They say that it was all black, even though by their logic black should not exist since nothing was created and void! What color is void? See, they have no answer. Anyway, let’s continue to entertain their little sin theories.
Evolutionaries think that in their magically black void, there was suddenly a big bang in space! Boom! Now, I know many of you may not be experts in science like I, but let me learn you something right quick. In a vaccum, sound cannot travel.
So when you are watching little pretend Star Wars or Star Trek and you hear noise in space, it’s a Hollywood lie! They are trying to prepare your mind to accept the Big Bang Theory, as if you could really hear a big band in space. It is impossible for in a vaccum, sound has no continuous string of molecules to push and transmit sound energy. Impossible!
But somehow, now with void being black and sound travelling through a vaccuum, the evolution geneticists keep having their lie orgies of fake theories. Now, here is where it gets ridiculous.
Somehow, the sound of the big bang was so powerful, it created the periodic table of the elements. Carbon. Copper. Einsteinium. They think everything just magically appeared because of this ‘sound wave’ that was booming all through space, leaving behind nuggets and chunks of matter creation. How is that even possible? It gets worse and more ridiculouser.
Earth just randomly appeared. According to these scientists, all the billions of Stars and Suns and Solar System Galaxies appeared from meteors smashing together and the sun shining heat on everything. It was a codswap of mix matched meteors that created deoxyribonucleic acid in sludge pools of water that now magically appears in their theory, where we all evolved from bacteria brothels that they claim existed. Then plants. Then dinosaurs. Then monkies making whoopie with protohumans. And then us.
And that’s the theory of Evolution, by genetisists.
So after all that, they expect is to believe the tree you see to the right, in Sweden, is the oldest on Earth. They are trying to steal the story of the Tree of Life from the Bible. They want their origin tree and here it is. They are going to try to claim God and his Jewish people stole the story of creation of Tree of Life from this tree. Just watch. These people are clearly delusional (just reread their theory above and see why.)
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Another liberal science lie. And if a tree was that old, they should cut it down and count its rings to prove it. But they won’t, because it’s all a big falsehood.
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I thought this was suppose to be knowledgeable. What bull shit. At least nogalina schooled you. Conservative Ass.
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They will never be able to explain the bombardier beetle.
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Saying “God did it” doesn’t count as a legitimate explanation as to why there’s a suicidal bug on earth. Besides, what do you want to know about it exactly?
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why is it suicidal?
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Question, while I’m watching my Star Wars Hollywood lie, would sounds of lasers being shot exist INSIDE said ship? Having served in the military I know big guns on vehicles made noise. Or would the lasers still be silenced being shot into the vacuum that is space?
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The inside of vessels represent a closed system. If they were not closed, everyone on the ship would die.
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gasses ie oxygen will carry the sound INSIDE the ship
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Ridiculous how these scientists will swear one tree is the “oldest” only to jump on the fad of some new “oldest” tree the next week. These waffling sinners long for the strength and comfort of the Lord.
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What you call ‘void’ is a vague definition of it.
There is no such thing as an absolute ‘nothing’, because there is always something, no matter what. ‘Nothing’ is a word used to indicate the abscence of something in particular, of one thing you may or may not (consciously or subconsciously) be looking for. Now, knowing this, let’s proceed.
What scientists call ‘nothing’ was, in fact, a great cloud of gases. Those gases were charged with energy, which made them highly unstable, at the same time that their movement grew in speed and, therefore, their energy levels rose quickly.
At one point, the speed aquired by the molecules of gas was so great that, when they ‘crashed’ against other molecules, the ammount of energy the crash released caused the matter to start forming, modifying the gases to become other kinds of substances and depending on the energy that started flooding to keep expanding.
After billions of years expanding, the very first planets and meteors started to appear: most of them in the form of something resembling a Red Dwarf (a kind of star; very tiny and not so hot), and some in the form of piled up space dust.
Here, we can start speaking about the Earth: a tiny, red ball made of lava, with no atmosphere and no life at all. Being so hot and surrounded by cluttered gases, the proto-Earth attracted many kinds of other gas clouds which charged the giant ball of fire with energy, causing the first electromagnetic storms to happen. With the storms, came the water, also made of different kinds of gases heaped together, and it started raining in the Earth, causing the fire to extinguish and the lava to harden and become stone. With this new change of temperature, the matter of the water and the new ‘stone’ began to evolve into a more complex substance, something that we could bet to call ‘life’. Nowadays, we know this new creatures by the name Archaea, belonging to the Monera kingdom.
This new organisms used to live in caustic waters, feeding by autotrophy thanks to the large ammounts of CO2 floating around after the fire was gone. The new organism is known by the name Cyanobacteria, a prototype of the actual plants, this meaning that it could photosynthesize. This little creature was the maker of the very first phases of the current atmosphere.
Now having an atmosphere, life, water to drink and live and ground to walk, it was about time that those basic creatures started getting bigger and better. The first complex creatures lived in the waters: The Algae. Then, they emerged from them and started covering the land far and wide. It is no surprise that the plants that were born millions of years ago could be still alive. And some animals, too: The Coelacanth, a living fossil, is a fish species that lived 400 millions of years ago, and survived with no major modifications up until now.
As for the name it received, the ‘Big Bang’ does not refer to a ‘bang’ sound, but to an explosion. A big light (energy) explosion.
And ‘ridiculouser’, mr. science expert, isn’t even a word accepted by the English language. Sure, it exists because you gave it life with your mind and embodied it in a few pixels, but it isn’t accepted by the rules of English grammar.
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what did she say? I need cliff notes, I fell asleep after the 15th page
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That comment doesn’t help in the least to your cause, mrs. Xenu…
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Susan, too wordy for me. The truth is nice and pithy. If it takes you so long to weave your lie, you might as well give up.
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That looks pretty small to be so old…how big is that tree?
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most scientist’s smoke marijuana all day and just make things up and call it fact
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can you really believe anything this
guy says? he thinks more than one monkey
are monkies!
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that bible proves nothing. other wise this comment is proof that abe is a monkey.
see it’s written right there. you can’t argue with that.
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Christian Science has proven that the bible is True.
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But according to you, logic and reason are evil things. To use reason to prove that the bible is true is using the devil’s tools.
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When logic and reason are used against God they are EVIL but when they are used to prove the existence of GOD they are good.
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Ah, so it’s only when you do something is it considered good. That’s how you’re able to be hypocritical, because you believe you’re the exception to your own rules. That’s why Christians can break every rule in the book, because they’re exceptions! Well then, I’ll go ahead and call myself a Christian, and just say that Jesus was a terrible man and God is a hateful being, and I get to go around stoning people, because I have no sins! Damn, being Christian is fun! Can’t wait to go fuck some chicks and impregnate them! After all, I learned from the best, like Adam Nelson!
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The Islam is the only religion in the world which its sacred book speaks about how clouds are formed, what’s the reason behind the movement of the seas and oceans, the temperature and salinity of the waters, the pregnancy and gestation of the human beings, the functions of the different parts of the human brain and the origin of the universe, among many other things.
Also, the Qu’ran is the one and only sacred book that speaks about trading, social and juridical laws, and the women’s laws.
And it was written 1400 years ago.
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Nogalina:
The Islam was inspired by Satan and written by a delusional pedophile.
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Please, do not insult the Islam, for I’m not insulting the Christianism.
Also, I would like you to show me a proof that your words are true, and that the same does not apply for the Bible.
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Nogalina,
This is a Christian website; please try to include scripture in your postings.
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Mr. Weisz, as you said, this is a christian website, please try to include respect and well-built arguments in your responses.
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Nogalina:
Islam is a terrorist hate mongering false religion, that is a FACT (source God, Jesus and the Bible).
Muhammad was a pedophile that is also a FACT (source your filthy book of lies and fraud the unholy Qur’an).
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Wow you really are a crackpot aren’t you, where in your bible does it say anything about Islam especially since the bible was written thousands of years before Islam was formed. Also please tell me the line in the Qur’an that is says any of what you claim?
No I don’t expect a real response past you throwing claims of liberalism or terrorism. But I must say you are almost as fun to point out contradictions to as Steve ‘the “real” journalist’ Billings or Ancient Hag Xenu the mother of the double speak
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The Bible has repeatedly told the future. Why would it not be able to now?
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Bible about false religions (islam, buddhism, atheism, etc) / prophets (Muhammad, Buddha, Darwin, Dawkins, etc):
“Beware of false prophets (like the pedophile terrorist Muhammad), which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” – Mat 7:15
Proof that Muhammad was an evil child rapist:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/pedophile.htm
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No that warns you not to go to other religions because they are evil it doesnt say pedophile or children or sex anywhere that is you adding in your own belief or the belief of the priest who brain washed you. (yes see that last part that is called my opinion!)
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I would like you to search for better sources. Perhaps, something that does not share the christian nor the islamic viewpoints, so we can get a better opinion, one that is not tainted with hate or pointless praising.
There are so many things wrong with what you say that I don’t even know where to start… for example, what we nowadays consider ‘pedophilia’, back in Muhammad’s (Peace and Blessings be with him) time was a common thing. Children, and especially young girls, used to marry at a very young age.
Your logic is so flawed that makes me want to laugh and cry. But I’ll just cry, seeing that there are still so many persons as intolerant, hating and elitist as you walking on the streets.
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This movie is being released in Islam countries too? If so I will send their head Imams and such warnings about why they must ban it. I don’t like them, but they are good allies to have in boycotting stuff like this. They will stone people who go against their words. I am nice and just pray you to hell for eternity.
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“The Islam was inspired by Satan and written by a delusional pedophile.”
You DO realize that the average age of giving birth was around 10 when the book was written, right? In fact, Mary herself was probably 10-12 when she gave birth to Jesus.
“Islam is a terrorist hate mongering false religion, that is a FACT (source God, Jesus and the Bible).”
Where? Oh, the bit about false prophets? Well, couldn’t that hold true about people who were IN the bible?
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Science=Science
Christian Science=Faith
Faith=Belief in something that has no explanation.
hmmm…
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This is a totally inadequate explanation of both the big bang, and evolution…
FYI, the big bang was originally propogated by catholic scientists, because it scientifically supports the idea that the universe was created. The prevailing attitude in secular science prior to the discovery of the Big Bang was called the Steady State theory…and it posited that everything that exists has always existed the same as it does now.
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WOW, for a guy claiming to be an expert in science, “Now, I know many of you may not be experts in science like I, but let me learn you something right quick.” he’s a complete idiot, not to mention that his grammar is hideous. He rants on about sound not traveling in a vacuum; you are correct, but how the hell is that even relevant to the topic. What a complete jackass. He doesn’t even examine the facts and actual theories, he just generalizes and states it as fact. News flash, you can do that with the bible, but you can’t do that with science.
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Scientists use real facts and proven theories to demonstrate things. Religion just follows something that might or might not have happened a long time ago.
Science can explain how light travels from the Sun. Religion will say its coming from God. Science has a theory of evolution and has good reasoning to back it up. Religion still says everything is coming from God.
As you can see by the recent rapture not happing. Religion is a way to control the masses.
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Can science (Satan’s whore) prove that God does not exist ? … NO (because GOD is real).
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Christan Intellectual, isn’t that name an oxymoron?
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Also, I myself went to Catholic school and learned much about the Christian religion, even though I myself am non-religious. Many more serious Catholics actually take science very seriously and try to use the scientific method as much as possible in revealing the history behind Christianity. If you were any sort of an intellectual, you would understand this, and not refer to science as “Satan’s whore.” If science is “Satan’s whore”, then your Pope has been fraternizing with Satan’s whore for quite some time. Get a clue. You make a bad image for the people of your faith that actually are respectable, intelligent people.
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I am NOT an idol worshiping pedophile supporting catholic.
Catholics support the science because they are not real Christians and they have been infiltrated by Satan and his demons.
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So you are saying the pope and your entire church is filled with pedophiles and science worshiping whores?
I swear you guys are amazing at blasting yourselves then any one who believes this site or people who come here to spurn you on.
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The Catholic Church is NOT my CHURCH !
I am an Evangelical Christian NOT a catholic.
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Ooooh I hit a nerve well sorry! But still you walk around pushing your crap on others so in my opinion and most likely many of those on this site would agree I see no difference between you and the rest of your religion pushing nutjobs
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How can you say that Catholics aren’t real Christians when Catholicism existed long before all the other sects of Christianity?
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Just to clarify for you there, all Catholics are Christian, but not all Christians are Catholic. Unfortunately for you, Catholicism and Christianity were more or less created about the same time. If you can recall, Peter, one of the apostles of Jesus, came to be the 1st Pope of the Catholic Church. To say that Catholics are not real Christians seems like a pretty far-fetched idea. I think you should seek some therapy, or check yourself into a mental health facility. No offense, but you should really be concerned about your mental health if you are so off base from reality.
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Anti-Theist and Claire:
You guys are extremely ignorant and need to read about the history of Christianity.
Recommended reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_luther
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism
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Please explain to me how we are being ignorant. Also, please explain how your posted links are suppose to “educate” us in the context of the conversation regarding Catholics not being “real christians”. Those articles are not relevant, unless there is some other point you are trying to make.
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I wish you religious idiots had left during rapture. You are all still left, does that mean you were all wrong? I believe it, i dont need proof… it must be true.
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The blood in my brain is coagulating with stupid. There is so much wrong with this article I don’t think it’s even salvageable. You ought to throw it out and start over, and I’m not even talking about your misunderstanding of almost every field of science! If you brought this to a grade 4 English teacher they would slap you in the mouth! I won’t even go into the science though, seeing as you pulled almost everything in this article from somewhere deep in the dark recesses of your ass. Your article is complete gibberish, not lies, I believe you believe it, but complete gibberish.
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What is wrong with Abe’s science here.
What is the color of void?
How can there be a big bang in a void?
How can sound travel through the vacuum of space?
Who can prove with complete statistical significance that evolution absolutely explains the current state of Earth?
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- As I said before, ‘void’ is just a term. There is no absolute ‘nothing’. What scientists call ‘void’ was, in fact, a gas cloud.
- Again, no ‘void’, gas. And no ‘explosion’, ‘energy’.
- No sound. Just expanding light.
- Read my first reply to this subject. No ‘TL;DR’ allowed.
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‘Ha! Let’s see this science believers what happens when someone questions their theory! A word that in no way, shape, or form is a definite promise as to whatever it’s associated with!’
Seriously Adam, there’s a huge difference between a law and a theory in the world of science. Theories can change, laws can not. The theory of evolution states a possibility as to how we came to be in this day and age using many, many, MANY years of evidence and findings and research. The law of gravity states that if you drop something, it’ll fall.
“How can sound travel through the vacuum of space?”
It can’t, but a giant shock wave can. Which is exactly what the big bang was, a giant explosion. If you took a bomb out into space and set a detonation timer on it and look at it from a good distance, you’ll see an explosion. It may not be big or last a long time due to the vacuum of space, but it’ll happen. That’s pretty much what the big bang is supposed to be like.
“Who can prove with complete statistical significance that evolution absolutely explains the current state of Earth?”
No one, because the theory of evolution only explains how we came about. It doesn’t dictate or explain the actions made by beings, which has just as big of an impact.
“How can there be a big bang in a void?”
How did God come about?
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This article proves the evolution is wrong and crazy:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v3/n1/evolution-anti-science
“Conclusions
Evolution is anti-science and anti-knowledge. If evolution were true, science would not be possible because there would be no reason to accept the uniformity of nature upon which all science and technology depend.
Nor would there be any reason to think that rational analysis would be possible since the thoughts of our mind would be nothing more than the inevitable result of mindless chemical reactions.
Evolutionists are able to do science and gain knowledge only because they are inconsistent; professing to believe in evolution, while accepting the principles of biblical creation.”
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If life existed in a span of 6000 years, you might be right, but considering how the theory of evolution takes into account that the world is BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of years old, it’s more lax as to how evolution occurs, since evolution occurs over a course of several thousands of years, give or take a few digits. With that in mind, it’s easier to study nature, and figure out how things work.
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Well, I think we can all agree that.
1. It’s a complex issue
2. There are no easy answers
3. Evolution is definitely a lie.
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“With that in mind, it’s easier to study nature, and figure out how things work.”
Just like a liberal, take the easy way out.
This is why young women like yourself, L.N, should not comment on adult discussions.
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August, I’ll agree with you on points 1 and 2. You’re completely wrong on 3 though.
Bruce, you suffer from dyslexia, go get yourself checked out. I’ve said several times I’m a guy, and you’ve failed to realize this. Bad eyesight is a sin against your God. As is false witnessing, which I’m sure saying a man is a woman is considered to be, since you’re lying as well. Looks like you’re going to Hell regardless!
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L.N, I have 20/20 vision and no history of mental illness such as dyslexia. I am deeply concerned about you however. I am worried about your delusion of being a middle aged man when it is quite obvious from your comments that you are a pre-pubescent girl. Please ask your parents(assuming you haven’t murdered them in a blind lesbian puberty rage) to get you some therapy. It may not be too late for you.
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Thank you for this detailed and well researched science article. This is the sort of thing that they should be teaching in school, instead of global warming and plate tectonics. Home schooling is the only way to keep the mind of your child clear from this horse pucky.
A tree older than the universe! That makes me laugh so hard. What will these liberals come up with next?
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Ice, you the man !
I wish more people would think like you do – we wouldn’t have missed the rapture..
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^ trololololol!
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Wait… You think that this article is detailed and well researched??????
http://big-bang-theory.com/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01
i point you to these sites in hopes that you may become more informed in common scientific THEORIES( the·o·ry
[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee]
–noun, plural -ries.
1.a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein’s theory of relativity.
2.a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.) that appear in our everyday lives… also does the bible not teach tolerance, understanding, and acceptance of others beliefs, and ideas?… P.S. I’m luthern and most of your theological ideas are wrong as well.
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Okay, I didn’t read the other comments because I’m quite appalled at the nonsensical stupidity in this forum. We don’t base out Big Bang Theory on the basis of sound, rather on the basis of matter colliding in space. There doesn’t need to be sound to have matter creation. And it wasn’t even matter creation, just matter collision.
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Just because you want to believe it, doesn’t make it true… what is in the bible, isn’t necessarily true… Science is based on the scientific method which IS fact!
You can’t doubt science while living in a house based on structural science, drive a car based on mechanical science, watch TV based on electrical science, and use your computer which is based on electrical/digital science…
It’s all connected… Sorry to burst your faith based bubble.
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Ignorance is truly bliss, isn’t it?
To start, how does the Bible prove the earth was created 6,000 years ago? As an Old Earth Creationist, I strive to ignore the giant pot of lies you are trying to feed to people with this page. I am not saying that Young Earth Creationists are wrong, I’m just saying that scientific observations tend to line up more precisely with our way of thinking.
Next time you read Genesis, take note of the first few chapters. What do they say? There was absolutely nothing but God in existence. And then, God spoke, and the universe was born. IF you had managed to realize this basic fact, you would also realize that there is a narrative gap (yes, there are those in the Bible). After God commanded these things into existence, it just jumps over to the next event. What it doesn’t talk about are the complex reactions that took place between events. No one knows how Gad works, or how He created the universe. After he spoke the universe into existence, there could have been a plethora of different reactions taking place. The Bible, my friend, also never defines time in these first chapters, other than in the form of “a day”. Many times in the Bible, a “day” is defined as more than a day, so this leaves the window open to millions and billions of years. But that is unlikely. What is more likely, however, is that when the author of Genesis was writing the book, God sent him visions of those first events, to help him write the correct order. These events must have been seen in flashes, maybe even described most easily in “days”.
But enough of my beliefs. Back to your blatant disregard for research.
“Evolutionaries think that 50 million years ago, there was all emptiness…” Wow. Just wow. To start, the genetic study of evolution and the physical study of expansion are two grandly different things. Comparing geneticists and cosmologists is like comparing apples and cotton. Secondly, if you would have even Googled “Big Bang Theory”, you would have found that the actual age of the universe is more along the lines of 14 BILLION years old, not a mere 50 million. To end, I must say that you finally found something logical to say among this sea of misinformation. You are correct in saying that something can’t happen out of nothing. Thus, my friend, God.
This next part is just stupid. Your part, at least. If, like I said, you had even Googled the term, you would know that the Big Band wasn’t actually a bang or explosion, it was an EXPANSION. WAIT, I have contradicted myself while contradicting you. My apologies, but I still stand by what I said.
I said earlier that something came from nothing. I misspoke. All of the matter in the universe was condensed into a “singularity”, a point of infinite density. Not nothing, even though I still say that God created that singularity. Either way, the expansion of all that matter didn’t make a sound. Once it had expanded, it could start making sounds, as matter was moving quickly into other matter, as a galaxy sized space with all of the universe’s matter would be incredibly dense.
Moving on. This next part, I don’t understand your reasoning at all. If you happen to watch Star Wars, or Star Trek, they are full of completely impossible things. Sound in a vacuum is not to lead someone to a theory, merely to make a movie entertaining. It would be like watching Band of Brothers without hearing gunshots. Ratings would be low. I must say, though, that I am thoroughly impressed with your definition of sound. It was actually accurate.
“Somehow, the sound of the big bang was so powerful, it created the periodic table of the elements.” That is a completely mockery of stellar mechanics. Very few elements existed in the early universe. It was stars that created the heavy elements you mentioned. All a star needs to form is a lot of hydrogen and a lot of energy. In the early universe, stars were commonplace, and they died quickly. Since there weren’t many stars then, they could become gigantic, meaning that they would die in spectacular supernovae, which create every element through nuclear fusion. A star is made of hydrogen, which it turns into helium. As it begins to run out of hydrogen, it converts the helium into all manner of different elements, carbon, silicon, and, finally, iron. After iron, nuclear fusion requires energy instead of producing it. So, when the outer layers of the star blow off in a supernova because of enormous pressure, these reactions continue all the way to the last element because the supernova creates almost endless energy for the reactions.
Also, ridiculouser and Evolutionaries are most certainly not words.
This next part is perhaps the worst, as you mangled it beyond belief.
In the universe, we have four forces. Strong nuclear, weak nuclear, electromagnetism, and gravity.
“According to these scientists, all the billions of Stars and Suns and Solar System Galaxies appeared from meteors smashing together and the sun shining heat on everything.” 1, stars and suns are the same bloody thing. 2, solar systems and galaxies are amazingly different, and 3, just no. Like I said, we have this thing called gravity. Everything has it. I have it. You have it. Air has it. Dark matter has it. Gravity pulls and pushes, and through this process, things link up together, and energy reacts with them, creating everything in existence (hmmm, gravity = God’s hand? Think about that a bit…). Stars form, and the matter they attract forms planets and moons and the lot.
And yes, then life started. Once again, over millions of years, God meticulously fashioned every creature to ever exist, on this planet and all others. And, like I said, other than saying it, we don’t know what processes God used or set into motion of create. Ignorance, however, is a no- no. Also, the theory of evolution you mentioned above makes absolutely no sense. Animals didn’t evolve from plants, their genesi separated at the cellular level. (It goes bacteria- small sea life- fish- amphibians- reptiles- mammals- birds, although birds evolved from reptiles, later than mammals evolved, but long before apes and such.
To end, you, my friend, are the delusional one. God and science can get along, mainly because God CREATED science. I’ve been told I’m going to hell before because of this, but I know that it is a lie. Hell is real, and it will not be my home. It, instead, will be inherited by those hate and discriminate, and what you, Abe, do on this site is borderline libel.
I hope this lets you see clearly. And no, I am not yet out of high school, but I see with eyes unclouded by ignorance and hate.
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I agree completely with The_Inexistent. Also, what would early man use to describe these events that god was showing them, what they wrote in the bible. This article shows NO research and a complete disregard for all article writing procedures. It is of my personal belief that you, Abe, either never graduated high school or graduated but got mostly D’s and probably had to retake many classes.
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also i am also not out of high school yet i and The_Inexistent have a better understanding of science and physics than most of the people on this site… this is sad.
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