How science and ‘’rational thinking’’ gave birth to racism.
It is often said that religion is what causes racism, some associate good god fearing religious conservatives with bigotry and racism, how many times have we read bad accusations of racism being purported against religious conservatives by badly educated liberal kids. The purpose of this scholarly article is to unbolt some misconceptions about racism and here we will try to explain how ‘’rational thinking’’ and the growing importance of science caused racism, rather than religion.
The enlightenment age was one of progress and science, rationality was widespread and was held as the utmost good, philosophers from all Europe were thinking new ideas, the arts were growing in this period, just think about the beautiful works of famous painters and sculptors, all of Europe was entering a new area of enlightenment, yet in an incredible paradox, this era of ‘’freethinking’’ and enlightenment would give birth to the most virulent forms of racism.
First of all, the enlightenment age produced the idea that all human beings are capable of reason, this meant that Negros were included in to the notion of ‘’humanity’’ the inclusion of these Negros into the notion of humanity had a perverse effect, first it meant that Negros were no longer treated as an ‘’unknown’’ race but rather as a primitive race. From a methodological viewpoint it enabled the practise of comparatism, in this practice, the Europeans were comparing the Negros to themselves, with the Negros in an inferior rank of course, depicted as the ‘’stupid children’’ of the human race.
The new notion of ‘’progress’’ in the enlightenment age is also responsible for the soar of racism, the philosophers of the enlightenment age viewed progress as being linear and the accumulation of knowledge by societies. Now this new notion meant that ‘’rational thinking’’ coupled with the notion of progress enabled the European world to proceed to a hierarchy of societies, with the black societies at the bottom of the list. This ultimately lend a helping hand to the growing racist rhetoric in the new world.
We can see now that these supposed liberal concepts all had a perverse effect of promoting racism. Darwin’s theory of evolution was a major source of help for the promotion of racism: This hell bound and false theory that we conservatives are working so hard to destroy. In short his theory justified some thinkers in the idea that the black race deserved to be eliminated or dominated by superior or more evolved societies. All of this coupled with the colonization efforts off Europe were to make a potent environment and ultimately create racism.
In conclusion, Religious conservatism has always been at the forefront of the fight against racism, and these ‘’liberals’’ were the unholy vessels of racist thought and bigotry themselves!
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2:34 pm
Brother Hubner that was an excellent piece and I agree completely with your historical observation that racism was never supported by Christians, but came from Europe’s “class system” and their false belief that blacks were less than they were.
Of course our own history shows we Americans took racism to new lows in the South and by creating our own second class citizens.
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3:57 pm
If you follow the word of Christ you will be good and Holy, tolerant. Sinful atheists and liberals are the teachers of racism. They started the Ku Klux Klan and continue to surpress the rights of Negroes.
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11:28 am
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7515.html
Yes, because Atheists and Liberals were on the Conservative side of the Civil War. We liberals are the ones who started food stamps, and WE’RE suppressing the rights of negroes? Idiot.
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2:44 am
the conservative movement started the entire KKK because they think that other race were inferior and the white were superior read your history Book for once
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4:01 pm
So you’re blaming science and liberals for your belief that black people are inferior to white people.
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6:28 pm
Liberal scientists are the ones who pushed for this racism and used their technology to bring the Afros here for testing, you can blame them. Christians realize that we are all equal under the Lord. JC is Lord.
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7:01 pm
What testing? Did you completely flunk history? “Good Christians” went to Africa and bought slaves and brought’em to America, and then proceeded to severely mistreat, abuse, and god knows what else to them.
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7:35 pm
If you’ve ever had a real Christian education you would know that atheist scientist Ben Franklin among others were the ones responsible for travelling to Afroca and bringing them to the US, much to the Christian’s dismay. Liberal textbooks are lies.
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7:45 pm
So you’ll believe your lies over the truth of things? And Franklin wasn’t an Atheist, he was a Deist, meaning he DID believe in some sort of God, more than likely a Christian God, but instead of participating in Christian assemblies, he had his own thoughts about what God ultimately wanted and decided to just let the universe play itself out instead of worrying about that detail.
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11:33 am
No Obaminable. You only think that because you haven’t learned proper history. Slave trades started in the 1500 by Christians who wanted a cheap source of labor. Ben Franklin, one of our founding fathers, was born in 1706, and was a Christian. http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/cdf/onug/franklin.html
You say you love America but you don’t know that much about it.
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9:32 am
But I though Benjamin Franklin was a Christian
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9:29 pm
soooo were just gunna pretend that the whole time period when the christians ran around killing people because they weren’t christians never happend? And if your not racist why do you keep refering to the african americans as afros?
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7:49 pm
That’s a gross and general overstatement. Now some were abused, true, but not all of them. Many lived as free men and fought with the North and even the Confederacy. Why would especially the Southern blacks fight for the confederacy unless they liked their way of life? For once, we could say all the blacks in the South actually had jobs.
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8:13 pm
A good chunk were abused while they were slaves, and hardly ANY were free and NOT hunted down. Hell, even after the American Civil War they were still treated with disgust by BOTH sides. If you were a black person back then, you were screwed either way. As for why they fought? Love of the land, hatred of the system, what sane person would fight for someone who would beat them and force them to do their work just to be fed scraps and given a dinky, shitty little cottage at best.
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11:36 am
The weren’t paid, and they were whipped. Nobody would chose that for a life. They were kidnapped from Africa to be slave, and they were forced to fight for the confederacy.
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11:38 am
That was posted from my phone, and it posted without me finishing it.
They fought for the confederacy because they were told if they fought and won, they wouldn’t be enslaved anymore.
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2:47 am
so it’s why most of them runned away from USA to canada ( I wiat for august saying canadian are racist because we saved these people from enslavement and the racist south neighbour that we have)
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9:30 pm
good god (no pun intended) millenuim your grammar makes me sick
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9:31 pm
good god (no pun intended) millenium your grammar makes me sick
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3:14 am
The war between north and south was fought over STATES RIGHTS. It had nothing to do with slavery.
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5:05 pm
I am no expert but in general i believe original Darwinism (the theories of Darwin) teaches about the adaptiveness of species to their environment and the mutations that these species undergo thereby.Some species however failed to adapt and mutate.
We, humans, adapted and mutated the most.
With the age of progression and rational thinking adapting became also meaningful within the human race itself, supposing that some races, the “superior” ones, did a better job than the “primitive ” ones.(that about right? Instead of flaming a constructive criticism would be appreciated)
Yet we white people still need a billion shots before visiting a “primitive” country and we need protective gear and high-tech equipment whilst the “primitive” races run about with snakes, insects, spiders and predators in nothing but a loincloth.
Then again, they would be lost in our city-jungle as well.
My point.Each organism adapts to its environment as is fit, that is not a ground for distiction between primitive and superior, terms indeed famous with colonials i guess.
In fact, those organisms that still exist can all be considered superior to those that do not.
I wonder when our adaptiveness will reach its peak and when creationists will be considered nutjobs.
Unrelated to that, i agree, stop racism.
“Humans are the only living species in the Homo Genus”( Wikipedia, what else)
the ONLY, ONE, living species.One race.
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5:14 pm
“In fact, those organisms that still exist can all be considered superior to those that do not.”
By natural means that is, not by hunting down.
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7:26 am
Hunting down as in humans huntig down animals for good sport or living room decoration, not for natural purposes like providing food.
Oh my he who is everpresent yet constantly eludes us, i need to stop correcting myself permanently, people will think im nuts and have no idea what i´m talking about.
But once you get started on a subject you notice that here and there you need to further explain, go more into detail for the dímwits, and then you get to a totally different subject yet it still is somehow related to your original point.You start with a page, then you could fill books and all of a sudden you have a library.The never-ending quest for knowledge, when all you are doing is to try and be complete about your first point.
But you will never be complete, or at least not by a long shot and that is the only reason why science is still around and religion is slowly going down.It would probably be down already if it were not for fanatics like you and those nutjobs thinking that religion , while flawed, is actually more humane to humans than cold hard science.
For the dimwits, i do not consider religion a never-ending quest for knowledge.Mathematical theorems and scientific thesis´ appear on a daily basis.
When was the last time a new testament or evangelium came out?
Then again, maybe there is a transition between religion and science, knowledge passing from one to the other, thereby becoming more comprehensive, taking new forms, mutating..
Oh you see, im doing it again. Oh well, another 5 minutes passed before i go to the gym.
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9:32 pm
Wow finally someone on this site that has a brain. My good sir I praise your comment
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5:47 pm
We are genetically programmed to fear that which endangers us. Thus, we dislike homosexuals because we know they carry disease and are potential molesters of our children. We fear black people because they have a great propensity for violence and theft. I find it only natural. Why should we deny our most basic instincts? “Racism” is nothing more than common sense.
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6:06 pm
“homosexuals because we know they carry disease and are potential molesters”
Anyone, even straight people, can carry all sorts of diseases. Not every homosexual is Out to molest people, most just want to be left alone by idiots such as yourself.
” black people because they have a great propensity for violence and theft.”
Any race can be violent or steal, not just black people.
Racist scum
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6:12 pm
Fear not thine own heart, my brother, but open up that vital organ to the world that so needs us.
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6:21 pm
What are you babbling on about?
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9:11 am
Amen Brother Plimpton!
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9:40 pm
Im going to have to ask you to keep that black racist (again no pun)homophobic (probably anti-semetic too) heart of yours to yourself.The world doesnt need any more hate against cultures and ethnicities or ways of life just because they are different from your own. Im no professional but doesnt the bible preach that ALL men are created equal? and if you want to say that it also says gays are evil then just be aware of the fact that it also says not to play with the skin of a pig, and if a woman has sex before marriage she should be executed (deuteronomy), wearing garments of mixed colors which happend frequently in the bible might I add, divorce is also prohibited, and eating pork or shellfish, working on the sabbath. personally I belive in morality which is doing what is right regardless of what im told rather than religion which is doing what im told regardless of what is right. you are welcome to your own interpretation of the bible but for me i need more than “the bible says so” to justify what I do and more importantly who i judge and what for. Also as a side note im agnostic
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7:50 pm
“We are genetically programmed to fear that which endangers us.”
No, we fear the unknown, because we don’t know if something is going to hurt us or not.
“Thus, we dislike homosexuals because we know they carry disease and are potential molesters of our children.”
So are straight people, Christians, white people, etc. The major difference between a homosexual and a heterosexual? Who they sleep with at night. If I put three coffins of dead soldiers in front of you and asked you which one was the gay one, which one would you pick?
“We fear black people because they have a great propensity for violence and theft.”
Again, same thing with white people, you racist bastard.
“I find it only natural. Why should we deny our most basic instincts? “Racism” is nothing more than common sense.”
Racism is using stereotypes to describe people of various races, stereotypes which greatly misrepresent the race and do nothing but hurt people.
You are one of the most un-American bastards I’ve seen, secondly only to Adam and the rest of Cultwire (At least you can admit you’re a racist bastard, that’s worth something). You judge people based purely on mere descriptions of their race or sexuality or religion. You don’t want equality, you want superiority over others. I figured I’d just bring that up for you, you sick scumbag.
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8:05 pm
Proud To Be White! There, someone finally said it!
How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me “White boy,” “Cracker,” “Honkey,” “Whitey,” “Caveman” .. And that’s OK.
But when I call you Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink … You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You Have Yom Hashoah You have Ma’uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) . We’d be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. You would call us racists. If we had White History Month We’d be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to “advance” OUR lives… We’d be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships… You know we’d be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US, yet if there were “White colleges” THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you’re not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride… You call us racists.
You rob us, car jack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society… You call him a racist.
I am proud. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?
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8:31 pm
“You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me “White boy,” “Cracker,” “Honkey,” “Whitey,” “Caveman” .. And that’s OK.”
No, not it’s NOT alright. ANY kind of racism is bad. People who do that are nothing but stupid racists themselves. It’s a street that goes both ways.
“But when I call you Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink … You call me a racist.”
Because they’re derogatory terms aimed specifically at people of different races.
“You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?”
Oh gee, it couldn’t have to do with the piss poor living conditions of the people in those parts, would it? Nah, it’s gotta be something else.
“You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You Have Yom Hashoah You have Ma’uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) . We’d be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. You would call us racists. If we had White History Month We’d be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to “advance” OUR lives… We’d be racists.”
Then speak against the reverse racism. Putting the blame and hating black people for being black is doing absolutely nothing to help your position out. Is there way too much focus on supporting people of other races in America? Honestly, yes. Is sitting there, telling black people that they’re the problem going to help? No. Is going out and saying “hey, we need to stop this idea that it’s ok to be racist towards white people, or to provide special services if you’re not white and instead make America the country of equality that it should be” going to help? A hell of a lot more so.
“We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?”
Partly due to the fact that people are still racist. Again, I refer you to my previous point: if you’re sick of the racism against whites, be it insults towards white people, or special services to people who aren’t white, then do something other than call a black man a ‘nigger’ or an Asian man a ‘chink’.
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships… You know we’d be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US, yet if there were “White colleges” THAT would be a racist college.
“You rob us, car jack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society… You call him a racist.”
The other points you made would have led to me just parroting myself of ‘do something other than insult someone based on their race’, but THIS one in particular there’s a hell of a lot of issue with. There’s been quite a few times where someone of color was shot and killed by a white police officer. Why? No reason, actually. They faked some bullshit and have done quite a number of other things. If a white officer arrests a black man for a crime and it was legitimate, then no one pays attention. However, there’s been a number of times of white officers planting evidence or ignoring evidence or taking extreme measures WITHOUT reasonable cause. When it comes to police officers and race issues, it seems to be that racism does indeed take quite a presence within the ranks of the cops.
“I am proud. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?”
We aren’t, but calling other people who are harmful or something else purely because of the color of their skin is indeed racist.
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8:52 pm
I can see why Billings warned me about you. You are not a man of courage. Your liberalism and “white guilt” blinds you. I cannot help until you take some responsibility for who you are. You have nothing to be ashamed of in being white.
In the future, please do not reply to things I write here. Until you’re able to accept yourself, you’re of no use to me.
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8:55 pm
You run from an argument WAY too quickly…
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9:00 pm
When one engages with the mongrel or the slave, one lowers himself. I do not want to be dirtied by association. I have heard all of these arguments many times before and they’re worthless. Part of being proud of your race means keeping unclean influences out. I care for my cultural purity and do not wish for this negroid “thinking” to affect me in any way.
Be vigilant with your borders, both personal and national.
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9:08 pm
So instead of wanting to fight against reverse racism, you just wanna call black people ‘niggers’, right, Pimple?
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9:28 pm
What could I possibly gain by engaging a dumb mongrel like you? At least I don’t walk around feeling sorry for myself.
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2:50 pm
No, you put others down and insult others to feel better about yourself, you sad, pathetic little jackass.
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2:21 am
I am delighted to read the comments of Dr. Plimpton. As a courageous man of faith, he is unwilling to compromise his beliefs even under the duress of liberal pressure.
The world could do with other such fearless defenders of principle.
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2:52 pm
So what you’re saying is, he isn’t American because he refuses to compromise.
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9:27 pm
What utter rot! Peddle your grubby lies, disinformation and gross insinuation elsewhere, Ellen! You liberals really have some nerve, putting utter falsehood into the mouths of goodly parishioners!
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9:31 pm
Well that is what he said, in fact the profession of reverend is merely getting paid to speak falsehoods in front of many people.
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9:37 pm
That is not what he said, dishonest Pony.
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9:47 pm
How am I dishonest when have I ever said a lie on this site?
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9:54 pm
I suspect L. N. meant to reply to either the original poster, or one of the other commentators. I am certainly not accusing anyone of being Anti-American, though if one holds anti-American beliefs or commits Anti-American acts, they may well be culpable without my declaring them to be so.
I hope the record will show that my dealings with commentators on this site have always been level-headed and just.
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2:56 am
I still wonder how come I never heard of these Dr or prof or reverend I mean I would have heard of you at least Once but no never heard of any of you quite strange … are you sure you are “reaL”
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3:08 am
Not every Doctor or Professor is a famous man, it is merely a title received after a certain threshold of academic achievement has been reached.
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9:45 pm
On this topic i will agree with you. While african americans have all these different holidays for them if there were a holiday for being white it would be considered offenseive. I dont agree with these policies but it doesn’t affect me in a manner that will upset my daily life. While i dont agree with you on most subjects im not closed minded enough to concede to the fact that you are right in this subject. Im not racist nor do I ever intend to be but your comment is one of the few on here that make enough sense to be taken as an actual unbiased opinion and for that you have my respect.
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3:16 am
Maybe you fear blacks but speak for yourself. There is no “WE”. You scared?
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8:53 pm
This is complete lies, saying africans were people didn’t lead to slavery it helped to lead away from slavery. Slavery is the churches fault because the church said black people had no souls and weren’t human, rational thinking stated the opposite. Linear progress had nothing to do with slavery. And where in evolution does it say black people are less evolved, evolution states that we are equally evolved and the only difference is they had more melanin than whites because they lived nearer to the equator where the sun shines more harshly. The fact is african slaves were brought over by christians, that is why the slaves were converted to christianity. The area with the 2nd most slaves was the south U.S. that area is also probably the most protestant christian place in the world. The first was the Caribbean which was also dominated by rich christian plantation owners.
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8:57 pm
You have been brainwashed with liberal propaganda. The slave population grew in the South because Christian men fed, clothed and cared for their blacks. In Africa, they died from disease and brutality. Food was scarce. How different is that from today, when Africa is still a place of brutality and starvation? You know very little of actual history.
What sort of racial mutt are you any way?
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9:04 pm
FYI – Dr. Plimpton… You are dealing with a 12 year old, Atheist, Communist, brony. He also thinks communism equals peace & equality. There won’t be much progress with this one.
Just look at the first sentence “This is complete lies…” It just goes downhill from here.
Bless you.
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9:29 pm
I am not 12, and I am really more of a socialist not that you would know what that is. Anyway “Dr.” you are now idolizing slavery, the men of the south were horrible, black slaves were given one meal a day, one pair of clothes and forced to toil in the fields all day, they were often brutally whipped and the women had to work even if they were pregnant which was often a result of white rape. Not even mentioning the horror of the slave ships, I think you need to read “The Life of Fredrick Douglass.” Why you refer to me as a racial mutt shows your racism, I am white by the way.
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9:30 pm
The cartoon and communist symbol made me realize that I was dealing with somebody far beneath me.
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9:37 pm
Oh your an elitist and you avoid all of my points and choose to insult me instead, now I REALLY hate you.
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10:06 pm
You certainly are… Someone(s) far beneath you.
AA likes to cherry pick the bible & history books. The first slaves were brought by the brown Spaniards, to a country that would eventually be known as America roughly 160 years later. Since the Africans were difficult to obtain, the native population was enslaved.
Then the evil, godless Dutch began the slave import business in the 1620s bringing their first 11 slaves to what was called New (Satan’s) Amsterdam. After that it was business as usual for the Dutch… Masters of the slave industry.
And the L.6. character you’re dealing with will eventually end his rants with death threats. Particularly if things don’t go L.F.’s way.
But never fear, your beautiful message is being heard loud & clear by the beloved Chris†wire family. Thank you for your heartfelt words, beautiful sentiment & commitment. I look forward to more enlightening prayers & biblical passages. Bless you, Brother Plimpton.
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11:48 pm
Everything you said about history is correct yet it in no way rebuts my points, the dutch were at fault but so was the south. And no one but you conservatives make death threats, when have any of us made death threats. I disagree with you and I hate you and I think you are the 3d worst kind of people (#1 is Nazis #2 is radical islamists) but I have never made death threats.
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11:48 am
Arthur, the slave owners didn’t care for the slaves. They were kidnapped and taken away from Africa, shackled so they couldn’t move, and had to sit in their own urine/excrament. And this was JUST on the boat being taken to the new world/America. (I say new world because slavery started in the 1500′s, when America was founded) At the beginning of each year, they received A shirt, a jacket, two pairs of pants, and shoes. If any of these articles were torn/damaged, they wouldn’t get another article of clothing. They were given barely enough food just so they could keep their energy up, were only given a blanket to sleep, so they had to use the wet floor of a shack as a mattress, were forced to work from 3 am to 11 pm without pay, and were whipped and sometimes shot if they didn’t do what their owner told them. If you think THIS is caring, Anon Atheist is not a racist mutt, you are.
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9:51 pm
Arthur im going to disagree with your statement that the Christians in the south cared for their slaves. While they may have died in africa from disease and brutality they at least died free men as in regard to in the south (america) where they also died from those same factors except that they died as slaves. Christians throughout history often justify their crimes against races on the grounds that they are trying to save them from themselves but yet they end up killing more than they supposedly “save”. If by fed, clothed, and cared you mean that they gave them as little food and water as possible, gave them ripped shirts and pants for clothing, and “cared” enough to whip them for retaining as much of their dignity as possible then i guess your right. As i have said before, anyone is open to any interpretation of the bible and history as they please, I am simply stating mine.
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11:28 pm
The liberals seem content with creating new hateful ways to oppress good conservative god fearing peoples.
Communism, Racism, Nazism, Atheism, Veganism, Libertarianism, Feminism, ect…
When will they stop?!
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11:41 pm
WTF are you talking about, nazism, and libertarianism were invented by conservative christians.
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12:20 am
And communism was invented by Satan.
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1:18 am
No that is wrong on 2 levels.
1. It is well documented that the first mention of communism was the communist manifesto by Karl Marx.
2. Stan is not real.
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9:26 am
That depends on which Stan you are talking about ..
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9:54 pm
Jeb I was under the impression that you belived god created everything. wouldn’t that mean god created all different religious and political views? and if according to the bible god created everyone in his image then how would you condem gays?
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1:43 am
Way to be wrong on both accounts.
Nazism was made by big government liberals who wanted to “evolve” the human race into Iranians.
Libertarianism was made by god denying government hating liberals who’s spoiled upbringing makes them think they should do whatever they want like smoke pot and molest children.
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2:02 am
Im sorry but what, do you have any idea what has happened at any point in time ever? Where are you getting these facts, you do know the Nazis wanted everyone to be aryan. The only non conservative principles in libertarianism are the principles of reduced foreign intervention and increased personal freedom. Please tell me where you get all your history information from, cause you really need to go back to elementary school.
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10:48 am
The Nazi’s stood for national socialism, this is where your political convictions will lead you, tubby Pony.
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7:50 pm
Nationalist socialism is very different from normal socialism, I am not in any way nationalist, I believe the world should be unified, you one the other hand are very nationalistic.
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9:33 pm
There is no harm in cherishing such a goodly society as our own.
National Socialism worked toward a different end than vanilla Socialism, but in the end is just another head of the same beast.
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9:37 pm
Not at all, the principles are completely different, the only thing in common is the name, I dont even know why it was called nationalist socialism, and the Nazis believed they had the best most godly country as well.
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9:46 pm
You are mistaken, Pony, and do not seem to understand your own political philosophy. Socialism refers to the large scale social engineering of society, where big government has a high degree of control over both social and industrial spheres. This is true of both vanilla Socialism and National Socialism.
The difference lays in the outcome to which socialism is deployed to achieve, but ultimately both forms of Socialism prove to be manifestly corrosive to the human spirit.
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9:56 pm
Normal socialism does not involve social control, just industrial control. National socialism is complete control including social, technically National socialism is just a long way of saying Nazism because that is the only National socialist templete. I dont need to inform you on the many differences between collectivism and industrial control, as opposed to Nazism do I?
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10:08 pm
Socialism involves a high degree of social control exerted over the populous. This can rage anywhere between the reeducation camps of Soviet Russia to the persecution of Gert Wilders. In the former case social control is wielded as a blunt instrument, while in the latter case they have used excessive social legislation to curb the freedom of speech and ideas. At any rate they both serve the same function, though the Soviet method is far more unpleasant.
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10:15 pm
Except that is not a part of socialism, there is no social control only economic control. Look it up if you dont believe me.
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10:21 pm
Stupid Pony, speaking to you are like talking at a particularly dense brick wall.
Why do you think Socialism is thusly named? For its economic qualities? LAUGHING OUT LOUD!
You wear idealism and naivety like a blindfold.
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10:27 pm
Thats cause it emphasizes collectivism you fool, you know nothing about this do you?
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10:39 pm
Social manipulation is social manipulation, ornery Mule.
And the social manipulation of Socialism is far more all-encompassing than you are willing to conceede in your stubbornness. But then I imagine you to be blinded your naive ideology. I can only hope that you never have to live under a Socialist government, because your spirits would no doubt be crushed when you are starkly disabused of your cotton-candy ideas.
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11:10 pm
Sigh, you are just plain moronic, where do you get everything you are saying from, no where, have you ever read anything about socialism, no. You just say it will involve social manipulation but provide no proof of it, you have no reason to believe this, all your points are based on nothing.
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3:04 am
Know thine enemy, Mule. Of course I have read extensively on Socialism, which is why I, a staunch Capitalist, seem to know more about your professed ideology than you yourself do.
Socialism takes great pains to try and break the spirit of the common man, until they begin to view themselves as just a cog in the machine. Socialism is often also guilty of attempting to stamp out religion in order to supplant it with their own dubious ethics system of abortion-loving political correctness. This is why you saw religion banned under Communist China and the USSR, as well as the systematic religious holocausts committed by both the Khmer Rouge and Socialist Spain until Franco intervened.
In the moderate Socialist state of modern Europe, big government will often use much more subtle techniques in order to undermine religion (such as France’s banning of visible religious symbols), but for all that coercion is still coercion whether subtle or overt.
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6:46 am
I DONT SUPPORT RACISM IN ANY WAY! But people got to realize it goes both ways. Some blacks are really racist about the whites.
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8:26 pm
Nobody here is saying blacks are not racist to whites, but whites say/do more racially offensive things.
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10:26 pm
agreed
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7:50 am
If you start not showing posts, especially when i try to be complete, now that would be disappointing, no sarcasm in that.
Or is it because at some point, you would have no reason to condemn my posts just because i forgot something or did not get sth right the first time?
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7:57 am
Second part was sarcasm, for the dimwits.
See, im a completionist.
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2:13 pm
I always feel a little guilty when science once again proves white people are better than others. It’s common knowledge, I fail to see why science constantly needs to point it out.
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6:57 pm
Except of course, for those IQ tests that SUPPOSEDLY show that orientals have higher IQs than whites. I say supposedly because as we all know, white Christian Americans are the most Holy, intelligent and beautiful od God’s creations so these so-called IQ tests are obviously LIES invented by Satanic Liberals to convince Asians that they are smarter than whites (they wish!). Praise Jesus! And of course, God Bless America!
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3:10 am
This article is biased left-wing agenda. Good Americans like me know that White is Right.
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