Enter the New Year with Christ

Eunice
• ChristWire
December 31, 2012 9:38 pm354 comments
Here's to your inevitable failure!

Here’s to your inevitable failure!

Everyone is hard at work making their New Year’s resolutions. I wonder why that is? Do you think it has anything to do with copious consumption ravaged by the average overweight American? New Year’s resolutions are a product of a country in deep denial. The problem is this: greed, gluttony and “gimme, gimme, gimme.” I call those the six G’s. Most of us think we deserve an extra helping or an addictive substance. “I worked hard, dammit!” They might say, “I deserve this spending spree at the porno store. ” Americans have been brainwashed to believe it’s  A-OK to “treat yourself”. Why don’t you treat yourselves to a little behavior management?

As a result of poor self control and an excessive appetite for all things sinful, consequently our society is a nation of  overfed perverts and addicts of all kinds. You’re probably one of them. Take a deep look inside. This year find a solution, don’t repeat the inevitable mistakes of your previous resolutions – none of which had a chance in hell. Make Christ your solution.

Americans are always causing a ruckus about their “rights” and “entitlements”.  They love to argue till they’re red, white and blue in the face about liberties and injustices. What a load of crap. All the greed and gluttony comes at an unattractive price, mind you. Would you call early onset dementia attractive? How about early onset death? So you have a right to smoke, snort

Go ahead, snort up your youth.

Go ahead, snort up your youth.

and sodomize your way to inner peace and happiness, ‘Whatever makes you happy’. Go right ahead, don’t let me try and stop you yet. Go on, indulge yourself like there’s no tomorrow, because there actually might not be one for you.

This year make it work and just give up on yourself. Instead, enter 2013 with Christ as your psychotherapist. You’re a psycho, and most of them , or all of them, need therapy and that includes you. It’s time to align yourself with moderation and responsibility. It’s called being an adult. Ask yourself, would Christ approve of my behavior? Most likely no.

So in 2013 make it the year you stop using  Craig’s List to find sex partners. Do it for Christ.

For  2013 , put an end to you suffering addiction to masturbation and your bizarre S&M fetish. For Christ would disapprove of you becoming a slave to your own genitalia .

Make this the year you finally slim down and reach an appropriate weight for a person of your stature. Once you use moderation and stop pounding your triple chinned face with greasy fast food, donuts and bacon sundaes – you’ll thank Christ. There’s little room for the obese in God’s Kingdom. And if you think you  deserve a bacon sundae then maybe you ought to be on the way out. I’ll get my shovel ready.

Gluttony defined

Gluttony defined

Make this the year you stop your endless addictive cycle to booze/ drugs /cigarettes/porn/lying/gambling/sodomizing/assaulting… obviously this list could go on.  Tell me that on January 1st you’re going to join a gym and stock up on Nicorette  and finally make those necessary changes. For who – yourself?  Make Christ the solution this time,  not more of your hare brained resolutions   doomed to failure.  You already know you’re not going to get it right. With Christ you won’t ever have to make a New years resolution  again. Not ever. Because for once in your life, it’s not about you. It shouldn’t be.

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354 Comments

  • if you think S&M is bizarre I’ve got news for you…

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    • You’ve got new for me? Please share!

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    • What is S&M?

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    • S&M? What’s that?

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      • “Strap-ons and Masturbation”. It’s the new inroad to hell.

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      • It actually stands for ‘sadomasochism’ or sometimes ‘sadism and masochism’

        It’s a sexually thing…

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        • Metalcore Fan

          Great, another commenter who is not like exbrony…PRAISE THE LORD!

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          • Why would you think I was like exbrony? Even so, how would that be a bad thing?

            As far as I’ve seen on here, the guy is schooling you on your own religion…

            Although I may not completely agree with everything he says, he seems like a cool guy…

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          • Metalcore Fan

            He’s not telling me anything i’ve never heard of before. A matter of fact I get bored when I read his posts.

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          • Thanks, OA. It’s always nice to see folks like you around here. It gives me hope for humanity.

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          • @MetalCore

            “He’s not telling me anything i’ve never heard of before”

            If you’ve heard things like this before… Why does it look like you haven’t learned anything from it? Seems a bit stubborn… And a bit close-minded

            @exbrony

            Glad I can provide some hope… Although we may have disagreements… Doesn’t mean we have to be at each others throats…

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          • OA, I don’t think you and I disagree on much of substance.

            I think your honesty, intelligence and sincerity should serve as an example to a lot of other people on this site.

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          • Huh, I suppose you’re right… Thinking about it, I can’t think of anything outstanding that I haven’t agreed with you on…

            Thank you for the compliment… I’ve yet to see why people on here don’t seem to like you… As I said before, you’re a cool guy…

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          • Aw shucks, OA. People just hate it when I point out that what they are saying is untrue or at least not supported by the facts.

            When someone points out that I have made a mistake I admit it and thank them for the correction.

            Unfortunately, many people here dislike men simply because I have drawn their attention to their own errors. Even more unfortunately, they often double down and assert ’til they are blue in the face that the demonstrably untrue is true. It’s dishonest, it doesn’t help anyone, and it makes me sad.

            You, obviously, are not like that. Which is why we get along so well.

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          • “dislike men”

            Ooops. I meant “dislike me”.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            The only thing I wondered about him was why he said that he supported gays and then wrote this:

            http://christwire.org/2012/07/farmville-attacks-christianity-with-dinosaurs-and-homogay-animal-sex-acts/

            It just seemed ever so slightly hypocritical.

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          • @oddathiest

            Although we may have disagreements… Doesn’t mean we have to be at each others throats…

            @exbrony was at mine the moment I said I liked John MacArthur. He’s been at it ever since.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Oddathiest has a good point. Maybe we should all calm down a little bit. If we met each other on the street we would probably be embarrased…Lulz.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I guess that this comment is not the best comment I’ve made…Lulz.

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          • When exbrony isn’t making fun of people for what they belive, he is being a cyber-bully. That’s just how I see it. Nothing good comes from getting in other people’s faces like he does.

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          • I’ve read a lot of his posts. I don’t really know him, he just seems to have the know it all attitude.

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          • seems too full of himself but that can come from intelligence, something he certainly doesn’t lack.

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          • O rly?

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          • yes, he brings nothing but logic to the table.

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          • He also brings his bad attitude.

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          • Which if that was not bad ehough, he has a grudge against Christians or anyone who beleives something different from HIM who is brave enough to tell him to his face.

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          • He is blind to how he offends other people, but he is like an exposed nerve to anything anyone else says about him, which is mild compared to his insults.

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          • He may bring some logic to the table, but he is a MASSIVE hypocrite. He calls everybody else one, when HE wrote an article saying that gays are bad and that the Dutch and Germans have degenerate cultures. He has a fit if someone opposes gay marriage, but he doesn’t raise a finger when Christwire says that there should be a hunting season to kill off gays.

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          • A day later and exbrony still hasn’t shown up to explain himself.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            It’s strange. It’s like he/she comments like crazy, then dissapears for a while, then he/she comes back again.

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          • Hi guys. Sorry I wasn’t here to help you with all your speculation about me. Really, I’m not that interesting.

            Abrahmsq is far more interesting because he follows the teachings of the third-generation fundamentalist doomsday preacher John F. MacArthur. Sadly, whenever I try to engage Abrahmsq on MacArthur’s homophobic theology he construes it as a personal attack.

            4pr1cot, thank you for your backhanded compliment. I think you are quite smart too, so it makes me sad that you have gone from sprinkling the Holy Site with droll non-sequitur bons mot to griping like the average bovine naysayer. You still have your moments, though.

            “Average User”, you have no idea what you’re talking about. I have never had anything against homosexuals and nothing I have written on this site was anti-homosexual. And the Dutch and Germans really are depraved — just look at the p*rnography they make.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I’m partially German. You are discriminating on the Germans. You’re racist. America is the lead producer of p*rnos.

            Explain that article to me.

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          • Germans aren’t a race. And it’s a bit rich for a part-German to be lecturing anyone on racism.

            Remember how your good Christian German ancestors exterminated millions of Jews and Gypsies? Not to mention the homogays and trade unionists.

            I blame that deranged old German anti-semite Martin Luther: “First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians.”

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          • Metalcore Fan

            You are a racist. You just proved it.

            BTW, Hitler totally changed the Bible and inserted nazi elements before he approved it. Learn your history.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I sincerely doubt Luther said that.

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      • you see, it works like this. My lover tells me to do something and if I don’t act upon it then she snuggles me. however, what she tells me to do typically leads to snuggling anyways so it doesn’t really matter. it’s all about the snuggling

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  • Metalcore Fan

    This article is 90% true…What a shocker.

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    • except the part about Jesus. he’s too busy to waste his time with you.

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      • “except the part about Jesus. he’s too busy to waste his time with you.” Hmmm…I see 2 problems…You forgot to capitalize except, I see. You also forgot to note that you are wrong.

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        • Hey Abe, your resolutions should be to stop being such a supercilious, sanctimonious fundie.

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          • Yours should be to stop being a smart-aleck who nobody likes.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I’m gonna send you that Korn video 20 times. Or more.

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          • I like exbrony. Way more than you two watered-down Christian clowns.

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          • Hi Erich. Good to hear from you, my brother in Christwire!

            I hope you had a fine Chrissie and new year’s.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I hope Erich like orn too, then.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Keyboard error. I hope Erich likes Korn too, then.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            6. Oh joy.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Erich agrees with many Christwire articles. That’s all I can say about him and that should be enough.

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          • Chrissie? Is that an Austrailian term for Christmas? I would have to say it looks like it, considering that it’s that time of year.

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          • “Chrissie? Is that an Austrailian(sic) term for Christmas?”

            My Genius alarm just went off!

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          • Genius alarm. Whatever.

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          • Hi Erich, Yes “Chrissie” is the Australian contraction for Christmas. In Britain they call it “Chrimbo” or “Crimble”.

            The Beatles started the whole “Crimble” thing. Of course, they were drug abusers who named their band after drug-addled American beatniks like William Burroughs, so what else would you expect?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            You don’t like Americans now? You’re in a downward spiral.

            BTW: HYPOCRITE!!! Exbrony says Christians hate gays, then writes an anti-gay article on Christwire. He also called the dutch and germans degenerate.

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          • “You don’t like Americans now?”

            Where do you get that from? I mentioned beatniks like Burroughs.

            Burroughs was a homosexual atheist heroin-addicted p*rno writer who shot and killed his wife.

            Do you like Burroughs? If so, please explain why.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            No, I donn’t like him. Your comment just came across as anti-american, whether you meant that or not.

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      • I’m just saying, he’s more concerned with humanity’s collective trajectory rather than intimate knowledge of individuals. we can’t rely on the divine for everything, otherwise we would never learn for ourselves.

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        • “humanity’s collective trajectory”

          Which is looking pretty good. No real wars, starvation, disease, intractable social problems or incipient catastrophic global climate change or anything.

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          • Oh. well in that case, I’d better start catching up with the latest celebrity gossip and reminding the world how great my country is.

            ‘Murica!

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          • Sure. Not much else to do.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Sure. Not much else to do…More KoRn vids, anyone?

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        • Metalcore Fan

          You can’t ignore the divine either.

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    • It is better than most Christwire articles.

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  • Metalcore Fan

    MY NEW YEARS RESOLUTION:

    Just Do It For The Lulz!

    What are yours?

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    • I thought you were against using slang. Or are you just a hypocrite?

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      • Metalcore Fan

        Abrahmsq is like that, not me. Lulz is very popular slang, stoopid is not. I don’t care really, anyway.

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      • Metalcore Fan

        Round 4. I warned you.

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      • Metalcore Fan

        Don’t say hypocrite to me. Just explain this:

        http://christwire.org/2012/07/farmville-attacks-christianity-with-dinosaurs-and-homogay-animal-sex-acts/

        It just seemed ever so slightly hypocritical.

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        • Metalcore Fan

          He won’t step forward and claim responsibility for this.

          Coward.

          BTW: HYPOCRITE!!! Exbrony says Christians hate gays, then writes an anti-gay article on Christwire. He also called the dutch and germans degenerate.

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      • Metalcore Fan

        Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) (sometimes informally called the gay plague in the uninformed world) was the 1982 name first proposed to describe an “unexpected cluster of cases” of what is now known as AIDS, after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and pneumocystis pneumonia among gay males in Southern California and New York City.

        During the early history of AIDS, when it was considered a disease of homosexual men, one physician suggested that male homosexuals reconsider the practice of engaging in anonymous sex.

        An ad hoc organization called Gay Men’s Health Crisis was founded to combat what appeared to be a homosexual-only disease produced by sexual promiscuity, intravenous drug use, and/or usage of poppers. Soon after, clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia were also reported among Haitians recently entering the United States and hemophiliacs, among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, and among blood transfusion recipients with no obvious risk factors.

        Wow, guess what got it started. Sexual promiscuity at work, agian.

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        • Metalcore Fan

          Agian? Oops. AGAIN!!!

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        • Was anonymous sex EVER a good idea? I don’t think so.

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        • WTF? Bring on more gay hate, MentalBore. I don’t think you’re hating enough.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Since when was pointing out that anonymous sex increases chances of getting AIDs hating? You’re the one who is the problem. You call me a hater, but you can’t prove it.

            BTW: HYPOCRITE!!! Exbrony says Christians hate gays, then writes an anti-gay article on Christwire. He also called the dutch and germans degenerate.

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  • My new resolution try and not be amazed at how stupid people can get

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    • Metalcore Fan

      As long as there’s people like exbrony and the Christwire authors out there, you have a great resolution.

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      • A REAL good resolution.

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      • Metalcore Fan, I hope all your dreams come true in the new year. You sound like a fine young boy.

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        • Yes, Eunice, Metalcore is the perfect picture of Christian youth: the product of systematic blinkering from birth and utterly unquestioning of even the most absurd dogma.

          He thinks lesbians should be burned alive for all eternity, and he never, ever touches himself on the private parts for pleasure.

          Happy new year to you both!

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          • Metalcore Fan

            The same to you. May God deal with you like you have dealt with me.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Exbrony, assuming someone doesn’t mastubate is a bad idea…I’m just saying…I’m not saying I do…Lulz.

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          • Ugh, MentalBore, the last thing I need stuck in my head is the image of you awkwardly dildoing yourself. Please, let’s keep it clean in there.

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          • Laughing out loud, Erich! MentalBore does over-share, doesn’t he?

            “May God deal with you like you have dealt with me.”

            What does this mean? Does it mean that you want me to be burned alive for trillions of years like you want Ellen DeGeneres burned alive for trillions of years?

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          • Either Erich and exbrony are the same person or they are both stupid. I am a boy, Abrahm is a boy’s name, fools. The world hasn’t gotten so dumb to the point of giving girl’s boy’s names.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Erich Sean and exbrony are the same person.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Considering that exbrony seems to be liberal, he must be pro-choice. That means that he beleives that babies can be butchered before birth just because some lady think that she needs more time to do whats she wants. (In many cases anyone doing what they want is no big deal, but when it comes to killing a child it becomes unacceptable.)

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          • Metalcore Fan

            It says in the Bible that God will treat you like you treat others. Better watch out.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Strike 3. 17 to go.

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          • “Abrahm is a boy’s name, fools.”

            Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

            Of course Abrahm is a male name. But I prefer not to make assumptions about people’s gender based on their internet handle.

            Erich and I are not the same person. *eyeroll*

            “Considering that exbrony seems to be liberal, he must be pro-choice. That means that he beleives that babies can be butchered before birth”

            LOLWUT?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Hey you, check your inbox.

            12.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Since you beleive that their is no God and homosexuality is fine I assumed that you would be pro-choice. Are you?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            If you were standing in a room with friends and I was there, would you say that?

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          • That’s not nice at all.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I don’t WANT anyone to go to hell for eternity. Where did you get the idea that I WANT THAT to happen.

            False accusation.

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          • MentalBore says: “Since you beleive that their is no God”

            Where did I say that?

            MentalBore also says: “I don’t WANT anyone to go to hell for eternity.”

            But you do. You believe that homosexuals will go to hell for eternity. You believe that that is fair and just. You praise the imaginary monster that you believe will burn those homosexuals.

            Furthermore, you believe in predestination so you don’t even believe that gays have any way of changing or repenting.

            You believe that your god made them just to burn them, and yet you praise this monster.

            You would cheer as your god burned Ellen DeGeneres for a trillion years. You are sick.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            There is no way of telling whether someone is one of the elect or not.

            BTW: HYPOCRITE!!! Exbrony says Christians hate gays, then writes an anti-gay article on Christwire. He also called the dutch and germans degenerate.

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        • Metalcore Fan

          Oh thanks.

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      • Metalcore Fan

        Forget it.

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  • I have a sudden idea to wank to Eunice’s picture why I don’t know

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    • You have to say that right here where Eunice will read it? Have some respect.

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    • Metalcore Fan

      Wank? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

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      • Come on, MentalBore, in the time it took you to ask the question you could have looked it up.

        You will never learn if you sit around waiting to be spoon-fed.

        Worse, you will only learn what other people want you to learn — and you will swallow whatever lies they tell you because you will not be in the habit of learning for yourself. (Ever wondered why you’re a young-earth creationist?).

        BTW, Jesse is Dutch and even he/she knows what “wank” means.

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        • Metalcore Fan

          I beleive what I beleive in spite of my parents, not because of them. Point out someone who has changed thousands of lives for good without Christ. Barack Obama doesn’t count.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Even Eunice is smart enough to know that you are wrong.

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          • “I beleive what I beleive in spite of my parents”

            So the parents who home-schooled you aren’t young-earth creationist fundies who believe that lesbians should be burned alive?

            Wow.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I know.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            You say burned alive. GOD SAYS AFTER THEIR DEAD IF THEY DON’T REPENT!!! Alive, hardly. Read you Bible and THINK about it before you come talk to me.

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          • Are you saying that the afterlife isn’t a life?

            Are you saying that those who will burn in hell for all eternity won’t feel pain?

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          • So the parents who home-schooled you aren’t creationist fundies? Really?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            No not all homeschoolers are Christians. (a rarely known fact) As for sending the video 20 times, my new years resolution was to just do it for the lulz. (I’ve always wated to do something like that, too.) Christwire hates Korn, so it will be funny to have 20 or so Korn vids in the comments. Just doin’ it for the lulz. That’s the only reason I’m on Christwire. Just for the lulz.

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          • Your poor, poor parents. What happened to you?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I was raised a Christian, but my beleifs were affirmed when I decided to see if they were true of not. After reading so many articles and studying both sides I decided that the argument for a young earth made much more sense. I’m not a Christian because of what my parents told me. They have told me lots of great thinbgs, most of them being about God. I’;m not one of those people who just beleives what they are told without looking into it first.

            According to your own logic, evolution still fails. Studies of genetics have proved that “junk DNA” left over from “evolving” is a total myth. It has also been proved that the human geonome is not improving, it is steadily degrading, ultimately proving that everything goes from order to disorder, not the opposite. How is that for progress?

            P.S.Tell me one time an explosion built anything.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Back some of the questions. Point out someone who has changed thousands *billions* of lives for good without Christ.

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          • Studied both sides? What actual science did you “study”, you homeschooled 16-year-old wunderkind?

            Changing thousands of lives for the better without Christ? Bernard Kouchner? Fred Hollows? Mark Twain? George Orwell? George Carlin? Mohandas Gandhi?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Studied both sides? What actual science did you “study”, you homeschooled 16-year-old wunderkind?

            Hey, if you read that whole coversation, you would have found out that I’m not 16. You are one year off. Try again. No suprise for someone like you though.

            Thanks for the complement though, I didn’t expect that from you.

            BTW, real good science…And both sides…You know nothing about my curriculum…I did really study, so shut up until you have something really worth saying…And worth having me read it…Or any other non- deluded intelligent life…

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I said billions, not thousands. Nothing compares to Christianity in that way. Yes, I studied both sides from an un-biased perspective, you obviously didn’t. You have been criticizing me more than I ever criticized gays.

            HYPOCRITE!!! Says Christians hate gays, then writes an anti-gay article on Christwire. He also called the dutch and germans degenerate.

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          • Billions? What Christian ever improved the life of billions?

            Don’t move the goalposts so far that you can’t reach them.

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          • Jesus did. Count all the Christians since the beggining, and you get bilions. There are about 2.1 billion professing Christians worldwide right now….Suck on that…

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        • Metalcore Fan

          I wanted to hear the peanut gallery. You know, I wanted to hear what the village fools had to say.

          BTW, Evolution doesn’t work because if it did according to natural selection, you two would be dead by now. There has to be a God up there laughing at you.

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          • “Evolution doesn’t work”

            People like you are the reason that the US is the laughing stock of the developed world.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Were you ever REALLY a brony?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Should we both stop fighting or maybe I should just sit back and send 20 more videos while you make random comments?

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          • Maybe you should learn to discuss things like an adult.

            The way you work is:

            1) Misrepresent your opponent.

            2) Assert patent nonsense as fact.

            3) Wave away all evidence to the contrary, ignoring direct questions.

            3) Claim moral and intellectual superiority.

            5) Issue gratuitous insults.

            6) Spam a stupid video.

            You are not a very good ambassador for your religion. You are behaving like an eight-year-old.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Issue gratuitous insults.
            Like you don’t “issue” them either. You started by saying you couldn’t stand idiots. I did not start it at all. I would be perfectly willing to stop if you would. It’s Christwire! Why can’t we complain about how crazy THEY are instead?

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          • So you are prepared to stop 5 but not 1-4?

            Are you prepared to stop claiming to know more about geology than every geologist on earth, to know more about biology than every biologist on earth, and to know more about physics than every physicist on earth?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            1. Where did I misrepresent you? Are you an opponent? I thought you were my friend.

            2. It’s NOT patent nonsense. If you want to disagree, you don’t have to tell me about it.

            3. Evidence?

            4. I don’t. We are all guilty of sin, every one.

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          • MentalBore, you misrepresent me all the time. You have called me a liar, you have called me crazy, and you routinely attribute to me positions that on political and moral issues without asking me whether I hold them.

            “I thought you were my friend.” No you didn’t. Unless you are in the habit of calling your friends liars and fools and telling them that you god mocks them.

            Your belief that the world is 6000 years old *is* patent nonsense. Any geologist or physicist could tell you that.

            You ignore all evidence to the contrary and claim to know more about the earth than all the geologists and physicists on the planet.

            You do claim moral as well as intellectual superiority. You think it’s right that Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi to burn for all eternity simply because they make love to each other with their mouths.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            You do claim moral as well as intellectual superiority. You think it’s right that Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi to burn for all eternity simply because they make love to each other with their mouths.

            Since when did that have anything to do with having intellectual supperiority? I’m not morally better than her. Everybody is guilty of sin.

            You have called me an idiot, too. Who uses the worst insults is probably not a good place for you to argue. It probably isn’t a great place for anyone to argue.

            I would be perfectly willing to stop if you would. It’s Christwire! Why can’t we complain about how crazy THEY are instead? (you never responded to that part. Now I know why. You wrote an article yourself.) Explain to me why the Dutch and the Germans are degenerate like you said in your article.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Why do the nations conspire
            and the peoples plot in vain?
            2 The kings of the earth rise up
            and the rulers band together
            against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,
            3 “Let us break their chains
            and throw off their shackles.”

            The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
            the Lord scoffs at them.
            He rebukes them in his anger
            and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,
            “I have installed my king
            on Zion, my holy mountain

            That’s what I’m talking about.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Sorry for calling you a village fool. Take it or leave it.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I’m sorry if I offended you in my comments, but back to the question that has been in my mind ever since I saw your web handle. were you ever really a brony? I’m not accusing you, I’m just curious.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Their are many scientists who are creationists.

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          • “Their are many scientists who are creationists.”

            And there are many that aren’t, what’s your point? Religious people who insert their religion into ANY field are NOT automatically right.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            No it does not make anyone automatically right. It doesn’t make athiests right either. Athiesm is a religion, beleive it or not.

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          • So then where is the atheist church? Where are the atheist bibles and holy texts? Who do atheists look up to for eternal answers? Please, do tell me more about a religion where the people worship no god and believe there isn’t one. Or, you could accept that it isn’t a religion and just a religious view. And as far as ‘atheists aren’t right either’, consider this: who has the better physical evidence? Your book says that god made everything, and there are hundreds of books of various gods making everything, so what makes you think that out of all of the religions on the face of the planet, you’re the only one that has it down correctly?

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          • Metalcore Fan

            You have an amazing point. Athiesm is just a mess, they have no organized work. Athiesm is every man for himself. Athiests have no stndards there are conservative athiests who oppose gay marriage and abortion and there are liberal ones who think otherwise. They are all over the board with their beleifs. That is why athiesm has an amazing appeal: you can beleive whatever you want. As long as you say there is no God, then you can call yourself an athiest. Average user has pointed out the physical evidence for creation very clearly in genetics. It is so nice of him, whatever religion he is from, to just be able to see things as they are.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Like average user says, why not make peace instead of throwing angry accusations at each other? It’s worth a try. I know you could do it and so could I. It is suprising how unwilling people are to just give up baseless resentment. You don’t like what I beleive and I am standing firm. That’s how I live my life. I may not be a great Christian scholar, but I do my best and you can hardly resent that. Just because I’ve got something to live for doesn’t mean that you have to be grumpy. I have conviction and I staying true to what I beleive. That is called faithfulness.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I have firm dedication, no matter what people like you think. They will curse at me but I will remain unnafected. They will say that is is evil, or wrong but I still beleive and there is nothing you can do about it. Now you athiests have something to fear.

            We Christians have conviction and we will never let go. Indestructable. God says that all things are possible through Christ and I will see that through.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            This site has all the evidence I need to show that evolution is a lie.

            http://www.icr.org/

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          • Christians will come together to defy the lies of the world and the media. Athiesm however, is weak; they have no firm foundation, they are scattered randomly and rarley join together to do anything good (If ever!).

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          • Basically, Athiesm is not a very powerful beleif. Though common, they do not do much worth mentioning.

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          • They just make annoying comments on the internet (anonymously of course!) and say that people of any faith are stupid. They don’t have a lot to show for themselves. There are great scientists who have made great discoveries who are of faith. Religion built the world, you could say. They shaped many dominant cultures.

            We have nothing if not for beleif.

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          • There you have it. That’s my word and I’m stickin’ to it.

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          • “You have an amazing point. Athiesm is just a mess, they have no organized work.”

            Atheism isn’t an organized cult. It’s the idea that there is no god or gods or anything of the sort.

            “Athiesm is every man for himself.”

            Funny how so many Christians are the same. No, let’s NOT feed the poor, let’s give them useless text books, that’ll surely solve their problems, yeah!

            “Athiests have no stndards”

            And you know this how? What, do you think that people can only have morals if they have religion in their life? Well that’s pretty damn shallow and rather pompous of you to think that, isn’t it?

            “there are conservative athiests who oppose gay marriage and abortion and there are liberal ones who think otherwise. They are all over the board with their beleifs.”

            There are conservative christians and liberal christians as well. Typically the liberal christians are sane and realize that their beliefs shouldn’t be forced onto others.

            “That is why athiesm has an amazing appeal: you can beleive whatever you want. As long as you say there is no God, then you can call yourself an athiest.”

            You just said that atheists can believe whatever they want, and then contradict yourself immediately after. Which is it, Mr. Know-it-All, can you or can’t? Obviously you know SO much about atheism considering the MASSIVE amount of research you’ve done in your short time and the LARGE number of atheists you’ve talked to.

            By the way, I hope you realize that the last sentence was sarcasm, stupid people like you tend to not get that at first glance.

            “Average user has pointed out the physical evidence for creation very clearly in genetics. It is so nice of him, whatever religion he is from, to just be able to see things as they are.”

            S/He’s Christian, considering no atheist would actually say those things seriously, and the moron has been adamant about Christians being immune to any kind of persecution. That, and pointing out evidence of creation in genetics is basically just going ‘yup, god did dat’ like a f.ucking moron.

            “Like average user says, why not make peace instead of throwing angry accusations at each other?”

            I’d love to, if it wasn’t for the fact that you seem to be of the mindset that the religion is perfect and that others should be forced to live by it. You said so yourself, that if there was a law that would prevent homosexuals from marrying, that you would support it. A tolerant and SANE christian would either stay away from it, or vote no. Back-peddle all you want, you played your hand and I know your game, and the fact that you just stick your fingers in your ears and go LALALALA shows how mature you are (then again, considering you haven’t even graduated high school, I shouldn’t have expected much maturity in the first place).

            “It’s worth a try. I know you could do it and so could I. It is suprising how unwilling people are to just give up baseless resentment.”

            I most certainly could. The problem is when Christians like Average User and yourself believe that your religion is flawless and everyone should live by it. F.uck free will and choice, you have it in the core of your mind that you want others to be Christian.

            “That’s how I live my life. I may not be a great Christian scholar, but I do my best and you can hardly resent that.”

            Ignoring evidence is NOT doing your best.

            “God says that all things are possible through Christ and I will see that through.”

            Including the suppression of human rights and the continuation of looking down on others, right?

            “This site has all the evidence I need to show that evolution is a lie.”

            What’s really funny is how you’re indirectly saying God is weak. Seriously, it’s hilarious that you haven’t put this together yet.

            Oh, and Moronic User?

            “They just make annoying comments on the internet (anonymously of course!)”

            Again with the hypocrisy. What’s your: name, age, gender, and religion? You wanna complain about anonymoity? Then fork over your info, jacka.ss.

            “and say that people of any faith are stupid. They don’t have a lot to show for themselves. There are great scientists who have made great discoveries who are of faith.”

            And then they realize that their faith isn’t exactly that perfect, and they realize that slowly, but surely, the bible isn’t perfect and flawless considering how it’s set in stone attitude makes it impossible for it to adapt to modern society.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            More verbal piss in the well and proof to my point.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            The notion that it is possible to not be forcing your beleifs on to other people through law is a myth. It’s either that the goverment is forcing your half-baked athiestic secular laws on to Christians or we are making just laws that you hate. No matter how you look at it someone somewhere will be having someone’s beleifs forced upon them. You just don’t want to have corrupt lifestyles be condemned like they should be. If you are an athiest there is no such thing as truth or right and wrong. If man rules himself, then if he decides murder and lying is okay then it is okay. That is evil, perverted and wrong.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Man can do nothing good unto himself. Man can kill a thousand people for the “good of humanity”. Athiests have no right, no wrong. Only twisted rules. They seek to subjugate anyone who thinks otherwise, either through politcal power or by corrupting it.

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          • I’m afraid I have to side with LN on this one. America is supposed to be a free nation. we’ve just enforced Christianity in it because everyone who claimed America was a puritan.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            A great lyric talking about Athiesm in general.

            IN THIS HOUR THE TOWER SHALL FALL!
            Initially they rationalized with futile speculations
            Which brought about their ultimately fatal calculations
            They sewed their own eyes shut
            To protect them from the light
            Closed the doorway of their minds
            Barred and sealed it tight
            Their foolish hearts were darkened
            Their vacant minds deceived
            The lies that they exchanged for truth
            Became all that they believed
            They exchanged the incorruptible
            For the image of fallen man
            Worshiped creature rather than creator
            The image rather than his hand
            The heavens wait in silence
            For the coming of the end
            As man perfects his own imperfection
            Destruction closes in
            In the grave they chose to make their beds
            And now all that they’ve created
            Comes crashing down upon their heads
            Death is waiting
            IN THIS HOUR THE TOWER SHALL FALL!

            Becoming The Archetype – Dichotomy.

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          • “The notion that it is possible to not be forcing your beleifs on to other people through law is a myth.”

            Your religion states that homosexuality is wrong, thus you support laws that would prevent it from occurring. What part of that do you not comprehend?

            “It’s either that the goverment is forcing your half-baked athiestic secular laws on to Christians or we are making just laws that you hate.”

            Who is telling you to marry someone of the same gender and who is telling you that you must get an abortion?

            “No matter how you look at it someone somewhere will be having someone’s beleifs forced upon them.”

            The difference is who’s rights are being violated. A gay couple gets married in another state, how does that affect you at all? A woman gets an abortion because she was raped, how does that affect you at all? You have this idea that these things are ‘wrong’ and yet because they aren’t actually hurting anyone, you want to get in their personal business and lives and force them to change.

            “You just don’t want to have corrupt lifestyles be condemned like they should be.”

            And you just got through saying ‘forcing beliefs onto others is a myth’.

            “If you are an athiest there is no such thing as truth or right and wrong.”

            Except for, ya know, the basic moral of a human being. Kind of sad that you have so little faith in humans that they would and are evil if they aren’t your brothers or sisters in faith.

            Tell me something, what makes you think you’re right? Why do you think Christianity is the answer to life? Why not Judaism, the very religion Jesus was apart of? Why not any other faith? 7 billion people on this earth that have come from families that have existed for thousands of years, with each generation having it’s own new religion added into the mix, and yet you think you’ve got the right answers. You aren’t content with your faith, you want to impose it onto others.

            “If man rules himself, then if he decides murder and lying is okay then it is okay. That is evil, perverted and wrong.”

            Except no sane person would actually do those things willingly. Again, you have this idea that the world is black and white, good and evil. You don’t bother to see any point aside from your own. You’ve been taught, nay, brainwashed by a bunch of lying, scum-sucking f.uckbags that claim to be ‘holy and good men’ that your religion is right and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, evil, and should be converted, forcefully if need be.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            Jesus was not jewish in religion. He cam to fufill the prophecies in the OT. He then taught his disciples the foundation of Christianity. When he died on the cross for our sins, jewish religion and the old law were replaced by Christianity, since the ultimate blood sacrifice had been offered.

            BTW, you can’t prove to me that man is intrinsically good. If you say that you are, then I can tell you, you’re not! I am not good unto myself either, no one is.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I think it’s time for this comment again:

            I have firm dedication, no matter what people like you think. They will curse at me but I will remain unnafected. They will say that is is evil, or wrong but I still beleive and there is nothing you can do about it. Now you athiests have something to fear.

            We Christians have conviction and we will never let go. Indestructable. God says that all things are possible through Christ and I will see that through.

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          • “Jesus was not jewish in religion.”

            Except for, ya know, the part where he was Jewish.

            “He cam to fufill the prophecies in the OT. He then taught his disciples the foundation of Christianity.”

            Which then begs the question, should the OT be relevant to modern-day Christians? If so, then why if all the prophecies and s.hit were already taken care of and the claim of the slate being wiped clean is supposedly true. If not, then why do so many Christians continue to pull out passages from it to back up their points.

            “When he died on the cross for our sins, jewish religion and the old law were replaced by Christianity, since the ultimate blood sacrifice had been offered.”

            Which is why Judiasm and the other religions still exist, and why it took a good, long while for Christianity to be declared a thing.

            “BTW, you can’t prove to me that man is intrinsically good. If you say that you are, then I can tell you, you’re not! I am not good unto myself either, no one is.”

            So helping out whenever possible isn’t a good thing? Saying that equal rights shouldn’t be earned but given isn’t a good thing? Knowing to not kill someone just because they upset you, to whatever degree is apparently evil?

            “I think it’s time for this comment again:”

            If you’re going to become a broken record, then you have nothing else to say and you’ve lost. You’re basically stating that you can’t prove someone wrong so instead you’re going to plug your fingers into your ears and just go ‘lalala’ until they go away because you lack the maturity to realize how f.ucked up your religion and you truly are.

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          • Wow. All of that was very TL;DR. What I read of LN’s comments was quite sensible and patently true and would not be argued against by anyone who wasn’t a typical ignorant religious fundamentalist.

            What I read of MentalBore’s comments was exactly what I’d have expected of a typical ignorant religious fundamentalist.

            What I’ve read of “average user” makes me think that it’s a sockpuppet. Time and lexical idiosyncrasies will reveal all.

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          • Wow. At first I thought that “average user” was a MentalBore sockpuppet but now I think he/she is even more deluded and deranged.

            MentalBore, if that isn’t you, I apologise. You are still deluded and deranged, though.

            Anyway, “average user” says: “Any religion that is thousands of years old and has survived brutal opposition wouldn’t have made it if it contained hypocrisy.”

            So that means there is no hypocrisy in Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, Judaism and Australian Aboriginal religion.

            Good to know.

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          • Exbrony, you are a huge hypocrite and until you answer for THAT, we will not pay any attention to you. We don’t care what you have to say. You act like a know-it-all teenage girl/boy. No real Christians are concerned about your opinion.

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          • So… just to confirm … there is no hypocrisy in Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, Judaism and Australian Aboriginal religion.

            Because they meet your criterion for religions that are true?

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          • A religion doesn’t have to contain hypocrisy to be untrue. Other than answering you dumbest questions we are no longer ineracting with you. Metalcore Fan said he was sorry for offending you and the best you can do is continue to offend everybody else and never apologise.

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          • “A religion doesn’t have to contain hypocrisy to be untrue.”

            Correct!

            But why are you running away? We both agree on that, so we have some common ground to start from.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            I’m not running away, I’m just not wasting my time. I have tons of productive things I could be doing instead of being on the computer…And arguing with the crazies…Lulz…Hardly worth my time.

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          • BTW, I always apologise when I’m wrong.

            Also, you affecting to take offence at the tone of my comments doesn’t detract from their undeniable truth.

            But I know that it’s a tried and true Christian tactic to run away whenever a preposterous platitude is challenged.

            Now that you have flounced off you need to make that flounce stick. Otherwise you will lose credibility.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            But I know that it’s a tried and true Christian tactic to run away whenever a preposterous platitude (he’s waxing poetic)is challenged.

            Now that you have flounced off you need to make that flounce stick. Otherwise you will lose credibility.

            LOL:

            http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25284574.jpg

            The obvious answer:

            http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/783/c38/9e1/resized/butthurt-dweller-meme-generator-you-are-correct-sir-b45ea2.jpg

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            But I know that it’s a tried and true Christian tactic to run away whenever a preposterous platitude (he’s waxing poetic)is challenged.

            Now that you have flounced off you need to make that flounce stick. Otherwise you will lose credibility.

            To exbrony…I just HAD to do this.

            http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25284574.jpg

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          • Undeniable truth? Let’s not talk about who is deluded then. You are, obviously.

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          • “Undeniable truth? Let’s not talk about who is deluded then. You are, obviously.”

            You have no evidence that your religion is the right one, and instead of being content with your religion, you feel that everyone should be required to follow it, and anyone who doesn’t should be frowned upon and cast out of society.

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          • L.N., the creative gears in your mind must have come loose. I never said that anyone should be cast out od society. Don’t put words in my mouth. You have this fantasy thatChristians hate evrybody who disagrees. That is a lie. You thnk that they just want every body to be cast out of social circles. That is just as insane as Christwire.

            BTW, you compare me to Christwire. I do what the Bible says, I don’t take it and go crazy with it like Christwire does. Christwirew thinks that the Bibles says that America will nuke the middle east. It doesn’t.

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          • I don’t understand how Average User remains so persistent! he has obviously lost the argument and continues to believe he has the advantage.

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          • Metalcore Fan

            It’s called not being a quitter. Who says he’s lost? You? Who are you to say that? You just want this to be over.

            Here’s a lyrical example of what is going on…Not a perfect example, but still a good one.

            “Resilience”

            Your resilience inspires me
            Facing tragedies I will never face
            Your presence is humbling
            To think of all that you have overcome
            It took such little pain
            For our lives to coalesce
            Finding what I could’ve found in no one else

            You bring me through the darkness of myself
            And show me that frailty can be turned to strength

            Suffering
            Persistence
            Such sorrow
            Yet resilience

            From the outside I’ve deceived the world
            With false bravery
            Yet you have taught me so much more
            Much more than I can ever teach
            And someday you might
            Need someone to lean on

            I can only hope that I’ll have gained the courage
            To be there for you in whatever you face
            You bring me trough (you bring me through)
            The darkness of myself
            And show me that frailty (can be turned)
            Can be turned to strength

            Suffering
            Persistence
            Such sorrow
            Yet resilience

            At times I’m carried on the shoulders of a child
            I find power in your firm fallibility
            My source of hope is seeing that weak prevail
            And I’m better able to live because you’re alive
            I could not imagine a world without you
            Where I looked you in the eyes and left you to die

            Suffering
            Persistence
            Such sorrow
            Yet resilience

            Song by As I Lay Dying, off of their 6th album, Awakened.

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          • “L.N., the creative gears in your mind must have come loose. I never said that anyone should be cast out od society.”

            You think that homosexuals shouldn’t be allowed to marry. Bad enough.

            “You have this fantasy thatChristians hate evrybody who disagrees. That is a lie.”

            You’re right, not every Christian does that, just most. Christians like you.

            “You thnk that they just want every body to be cast out of social circles. That is just as insane as Christwire.”

            With people like you, it’s either ‘you go to hell if you don’t do what I say’ or ‘I will harass you constantly about your choices or anything you can’t control and say that it’s a sign from god until you convert’.

            “BTW, you compare me to Christwire. I do what the Bible says, I don’t take it and go crazy with it like Christwire does.”

            Where does Jesus say that gay people are wrong?

            “Christwirew thinks that the Bibles says that America will nuke the middle east. It doesn’t.”

            They do represent the fact that many Christians will take the bible and use it as a weapon to force more people to convert. You can call it ‘saving your soul’ but everyone with any amount of common sense will call it ‘brainwashing’, what it really is. ‘Oh the bible says to do this!’ ‘But then why aren’t you doing it?’ ‘Because!’ ‘Because why?’ ‘I’m telling you to do this!’ How many anti-gay priests have turned out to be gay? How many women who object to abortions have gotten one? How many Christians complain about someone being abused while they bully other people? The religion and it’s practitioners are incredibly faulty and full of contradictions. People are starting to realize this and they’re drifting away from it. Go ahead, say that there are several billion Christians in the world, that number is going to go down rapidly within a few generations, so you might as well gloat as much as possible now.

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          • You misrepresent your opponent whenever you can.

            I DON’T HATE FOLKS WHO DISAGREE!!!

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          • For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (The Bible prophesied AIDs.)

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          • “It’s called not being a quitter. Who says he’s lost? You? Who are you to say that? You just want this to be over.”

            You said I lost because of reasons, and that was more literal, you didn’t give any good reasons. You basically said ‘you lost because of reasons’ similar to the meme.

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          • I showed you articles and backed up basically everything I’ve said. L.N., who seems to a special exception, hasn’t backed up a word he has said with anything but his own words. That doesn’t count. Saying he’s proved right by science and providing no evidence other than the word science doesn’t work.

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          • “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (The Bible prophesied AIDs.)”

            Except who’s to say that the acts themselves were the cause of god’s wrath? Were the acts ever mentioned in depth? It could be that they were into some sick s.hit like guro; maybe they killed people and jacked off with their entrails. Not only that, but considering AIDS can affect anyone and the origin is widely believed to have come from monkeys, and your idea of the bible ‘prophesying’ about AIDS is highly questioned. Gay sex does not automatically equal AIDS or anything, and AIDS is not sexual preference oriented. Hell, what if the punishment was something entirely different? What if god later burned down their houses and that was the end of it? You’re taking the bible, interpreting how YOU want it to sound, and then try to claim that it’s the truth.

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          • You’re right. Maybe it wasn’t aids. Either way God said it was a sin and there would be consequences. It is highly isinuating AIDs or any othe sexually transmitted disease because it says that the recieved the penalty in their own bodies.

            BTW, science has proved that gays tend to live 20 years less than the average person. I’m not hating, I’m just pointing to fact.

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          • “You’re right. Maybe it wasn’t aids. Either way God said it was a sin and there would be consequences.”

            Except the acts were still never specified. The possibilities of what happened are rather limitless. It could be that they left their wives which was something that’s been said to be a terrible thing to do several times, it could be that they killed people for fun, it could be that they raped people for fun, there’s a whole list of possibilities. When you say ‘they did stuff’, you have an entire world-wide collection of actions that they could have done.

            “It is highly isinuating AIDs or any othe sexually transmitted disease because it says that the recieved the penalty in their own bodies.”

            Spontaneous combustion, sudden disease, maybe it was a metaphor, the bible loves to use those a lot. Anything can be insinuating if you want it to be.

            “BTW, science has proved that gays tend to live 20 years less than the average person. I’m not hating, I’m just pointing to fact.”

            Says what study and what credentials? You’re basically just grasping for straws now, that’s not related to religion at all.

            Let me ask you something, do you think the bible should be interpreted literally or metaphorically? Do you think the Old Testament should be included in the teachings of Christianity or left out? Go ahead, let’s restart this whole thing and let’s give you another shot, and see how fast you’ll fail.

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          The 5th wave!!! Your REAL lucky to get this much attention!

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          9. Wow, now you know I’m serious.

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          • That’s a lot of KoRn videos. Why did you do that?

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        • You are outright offensive in every way I look at you. You seem to want to say something mean to everyone who disagrees with you. You say that you are a free-thinker, yet I get the feeling that you are the only one who is in chains.

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          • what a perceptive individual.

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          • Thanks.

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          • whoops, for some reason I thought you were talking about Metalcore.

            probably from a combination of being drunk and it was 2 in the morning.

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          • whoops, for some reason I thought you were talking about Metalcore. Probably from a combination of being drunk and it was 2 in the morning…Wow.

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          • Why would you think it was Metalcore Fan I was talking about? Exbrony an L.N. are the ones who claim (They most definetly are not.) to be so called “free-thinkers”.

            Well, it doesn’t really matter now.

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          • Average User, since when did thinking for yourself and not being restrained to a religion that contains an incredible amount of hypocrisy be considered anything BUT free-thinking?

            Am I the one who opens up a book written a couple thousand years ago and points to a passage that’s convenient to me to prove my point about how what someone is doing is wrong and against my beliefs? Am I the one who relies on old, out-dated methods for social interaction? Am I the one

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          • rather be drunk at 2:00 a.m. than seething anger for all humanity at 2:00 a.m.

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          • You think that religion has done nothing good. Chain #1. You think that all religion is bad. Chain 2#. Many religions have done great things. Christianity has done more good than all secular people put together down the ages. (I do not state my religion or personal convictions on Christwire. I may be a Muslim, an athiest of a Christian. Do not make assumptions about me.) I have studied many religions and I have found no hypocrisies in the Bible.

            Athiests however, have some real big hypocrite problems. Truth is relative is a HUGE hypocrisy. You haven’t answered some questions I asked you, so I cannot continue talking about his until I have learned more about you beleifs.

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          • Athiest OR a Christian. Not of.

            The Bible is still going strong, a clear sign that it has stood the test of time. Any religion that is thousands of years old and has survived brutal opposition wouldn’t have made it if it contained hypocrisy. Do you think that truth ages and is replaced by new truth? Please I would like to know if you think that there is absolute truth or if you think that truth is relative?

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          • Do you support gay marriage?
            Abortion? Homeschooling? I need answeres on all of these points so that I do not assume things about you.

            P.S. Do you thyink that religious foundations should have to provide healthcare that pays for contaceptives or abortions? Do you think that all children should attend public school? (basically, do you support homeschooling, just worded differently.)

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          • This keyboard is having massive problems, so I have tons of typos. Sorry about that.

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          • “You think that religion has done nothing good. Chain #1.”

            I asked for your evidence supporting your idea that I’m not a free-thinker. This is just you pointing things out.

            “You think that all religion is bad. Chain 2#. Many religions have done great things. Christianity has done more good than all secular people put together down the ages.”

            Christianity has also: allowed slavery, forced women to adhere to extremely strict standards that are not enforced on men, suppressed the rights of homosexuals, and look down upon anyone who deviates from the norm and rejects any idea that isn’t found in the bible. That’s just what’s been relevant to the past 150 years or so in America, that’s not accounting for the number of times it says to kill someone for breaking some stupid rule, or how it and the churches will disregard science.

            “(I do not state my religion or personal convictions on Christwire. I may be a Muslim, an athiest of a Christian. Do not make assumptions about me.) I have studied many religions and I have found no hypocrisies in the Bible.”

            You’re full of s.hit if you haven’t found any hypocritical statements made in the bible and you’re deluded if you think I’m gonna buy that. And you tell me not to assume things, and yet you’re assuming things about me, good job. I’m gonna guess that you ARE a Christian, considering no atheist would say there’s no hypocrisy in the bible, and any other religion would have their own issues about it.

            “Athiests however, have some real big hypocrite problems. Truth is relative is a HUGE hypocrisy. You haven’t answered some questions I asked you, so I cannot continue talking about his until I have learned more about you beleifs.”

            How are atheists hypocrites about their religious views? They think there is no god, they think that human beings are responsible for their own actions, there isn’t a text book that’s been slashed and edited and cut since it’s creation for them to follow.

            “The Bible is still going strong, a clear sign that it has stood the test of time. Any religion that is thousands of years old and has survived brutal opposition wouldn’t have made it if it contained hypocrisy.”

            It would if it prevented anyone from talking smack about it. Ever since people started having free time thanks to the evolution of technology, they’ve slowly been realizing that the bible’s been wrong in quite a few ways. You can’t say anything you’ve said without looking like a fool considering the advancements that have been made. Not only that, but if you wanna talk about how ‘because it’s old, it’s right’, then what about Zeus and Odin and the others? There are people that still worship them, and you can’t even say ‘well, more people believe in Jesus so that’s why’ because popular vote does not mean it’s right, and if you want proof of why, just look at something like Twilight and how many people think it’s actually well-written literature, or if you want something that’s bigger, look at slavery; for the longest time, Christians said that it was okay to own slaves, because they weren’t people.

            “Do you think that truth ages and is replaced by new truth?”

            The beautiful thing about learning is that it can change when enough proof has shown that the previous line of thinking is wrong, while religion seems to think that it’s written in stone and CAN’T change.

            “Please I would like to know if you think that there is absolute truth or if you think that truth is relative?”

            Are you drunk or stupid? That wasn’t a question, that was an attempt (a bad one, mind you) to sound more intelligent than you actually are. Simply put, there’s enough evidence to prove that what the bible says about many things is wrong, and the attitude of Christians is ALSO a part of that evidence considering the number of times they’ll flip-flop on issues.

            “Do you support gay marriage?
            Abortion? Homeschooling? I need answeres on all of these points so that I do not assume things about you.”

            Yes. Gay marriage because no one should have the right to tell someone else who they can or can’t marry, abortion because, hey, s.hit happens and if a woman is going to get an abortion anyway, it might as well be safe and legal so she doesn’t go into a dark alley or take a clothes hanger to the inside of her gut, and homeschooling because that could very well be an option for certain families who are uncomfortable with the school system in their area.

            “P.S. Do you thyink that religious foundations should have to provide healthcare that pays for contaceptives or abortions?”

            If they’re a business and the law requires it, then yes.

            “Do you think that all children should attend public school? (basically, do you support homeschooling, just worded differently.)”

            All children should receive some kind of schooling, and if their parent feels the need to homeschool them, then fine.

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          • “You think that religion has done nothing good. Chain #1.”

            I asked for your evidence supporting your idea that I’m not a free-thinker. This is just you pointing things out.

            (Christianity is full of hypocrisy he says, without citing any hypocrisy.) Sounds closed minded.

            “You think that all religion is bad. Chain 2#. Many religions have done great things. Christianity has done more good than all secular people put together down the ages.”

            Christianity has also: allowed slavery (where?! Stupid Christians maybe. The Bible doesn’t support slavery. ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT), forced women to adhere to extremely strict standards that are not enforced on men (Again this must be the Christians who never read the Bible I guess.), suppressed the rights of homosexuals (hey who cares, they have done nothing good, they just hate on Christians for beleiving otherwise and they media and people like L.N. who are puppets of the system play along. His resentment towards Christianity PROVED MY POINT.) and look down upon anyone who deviates from the norm and rejects any idea that isn’t found in the bible.(I don’t know what this norm is. Christians are now treated like they are strange, so this doesn’t apply) That’s just what’s been relevant to the past 150 years or so in America, that’s not accounting for the number of times it says to kill someone for breaking some stupid rule, ( he is obsessed with the old testament which was very strict but was fulfilled by the ultimate blood sacrifice, so, most of it is no longer active in modern worship) or how it and the churches will disregard science (science? really? I can tell you about the human geonome, but we won’t go there, yet. Actually, let’s take a good look at it.

            1# Science has proved that the human geonome is degrading, NOT improving.

            2# Science has proved that the idea of junk DNA left over from the mythical evolution (patent nonsense)is a total lie. (hey I thought that’s what Christianity was!). There is now only 20% of DNA that still has no discovered purpose. Scientists say that that that will be discovered VERY soon.
            If they discover that the last 20% is actively usefull, well, evolution just got a deathblow.

            3# Another well known myth (everything goes from disorder to order, the keystone of evolution)
            is obviously not true. God says that everything goes from order to disorder. What do we see in the world today? Wow, looks the world isn’t getting any better!

            (I was going to add a 4th point but I decided that you had enough to read already)

            (I do not state my religion or personal convictions on Christwire. I may be a Muslim, an athiest of a Christian. Do not make assumptions about me.) I have studied many religions and I have found no hypocrisies in the Bible.”

            You’re full of s.hit ( typical uncivil behavior, where did he learn this kind of language? Where does he even have the right to say that about ME?!…Free speech…I know I know. HEY! Why can’t I say THAT sort of thing about gay people? People hate on Christians NO BIG DEAL. People curse at gays IT’S THE END OF THE WORLD!!! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!! HATESPEECH! HATESPEECH HATESPEECH!!!!!!!!!!) if you haven’t found any hypocritical statements made in the bible and you’re deluded if you think I’m gonna buy that ( he never pointed out where it is hypocritical, so why should I buy that?!). And you tell me not to assume things, and yet you’re assuming things about me, good job (I’m trying to recall what I assumed about him). I’m gonna guess that you ARE a Christian (maybe I am, but what if I’m just a nice guy from some other religion who knows more about it pointing some other person’s error?), considering no atheist would say there’s no hypocrisy in the bible ( he doesn’t even know athiests very well), and any other religion would have their own issues about it.
            (Yeah, they do, but that doesn’t stop me from saying that you’re wrong)
            “Athiests however, have some real big hypocrite problems. Truth is relative is a HUGE hypocrisy. You haven’t answered some questions I asked you, so I cannot continue talking about his until I have learned more about you beleifs.”

            How are atheists hypocrites about their religious views? They think there is no god, they think that human beings are responsible for their own actions, ( kinda funky, because then there might not be such a thing as absolute truth in his eyes, but since he hasn’t told me, I cannot say anything about that.) there isn’t a text book that’s been slashed and edited and cut (the Bible has not been slashed edited and cut, I think that he is confusing the Bible with the book of mormon.)since it’s creation for them to follow.

            “The Bible is still going strong, a clear sign that it has stood the test of time. Any religion that is thousands of years old and has survived brutal opposition wouldn’t have made it if it contained hypocrisy.”

            It would if it prevented anyone from talking smack about it. Ever since people started having free time thanks to the evolution of technology, they’ve slowly been realizing that the bible’s been wrong in quite a few ways. (not everyone, evidently. A matter of fact, evolutionists are brutally, no, hilariously, outnumbered by Christians) You can’t say anything you’ve said without looking like a fool considering the advancements that have been made. ( actually I can, he’s just displaying how he is in chains like I said previously. He automatically calls me a fool for defend some people’s beleifs.) Not only that, but if you wanna talk about how ‘because it’s old, it’s right’, then what about Zeus and Odin and the others? There are people that still worship them, and you can’t even say ‘well, more people believe in Jesus so that’s why’ because popular vote does not mean it’s right, and if you want proof of why, just look at something like Twilight and how many people think it’s actually well-written literature, ( ??? ) or if you want something that’s bigger, look at slavery; for the longest time, Christians said that it was okay to own slaves, (that doesn’t mean the BIBLE said it) because they weren’t people.
            (the Bible isn’t racist)
            “Do you think that truth ages and is replaced by new truth?”

            The beautiful thing about learning is that it can change when enough proof has shown that the previous line of thinking is wrong, while religion seems to think that it’s written in stone and CAN’T change.
            (Iguess that’s it for the 10 commandments, murder, adultery and lying is back in style)
            “Please I would like to know if you think that there is absolute truth or if you think that truth is relative?”

            Are you drunk or stupid? (neither actually, I was thinking about YOU) That wasn’t a question, that was an attempt (a bad one, mind you) ( oh, really?)to sound more intelligent than you actually are. (he just doesn’t want to admit it. Why could he just tell me or has he ignored the simple truth that there is right and wrong?) Simply put, there’s enough evidence to prove that what the bible says about many things is wrong, (again he never points anything out, he just shoots blind) and the attitude of Christians is ALSO a part of that evidence considering the number of times they’ll flip-flop on issues.
            (I have NEVE
            R “flip-flopped” To boot, he’s shooting blind again)
            “Do you support gay marriage?
            Abortion? Homeschooling? I need answeres on all of these points so that I do not assume things about you.”

            Yes. Gay marriage because no one should have the right to tell someone else who they can or can’t marry, (Oh really?) abortion because, hey, s.hit happens and if a woman is going to get an abortion anyway, it might as well be safe and legal so she doesn’t go into a dark alley or take a clothes hanger to the inside of her gut ( That’s gross and BTW, that’s called murder. No wonder this guy doesn’t like the Bible. A man hates a doctrine that condemns him, even if it is true.), and homeschooling because that could very well be an option for certain families who are uncomfortable with the school system in their area.
            (Most homeschoolers are uncomfortable with having there children raised in a school system that kill children’s ability to think, so yeah, for once, L.N. hits spot on! YEAH!)
            “P.S. Do you think that religious foundations should have to provide healthcare that pays for contaceptives or abortions?”

            If they’re a business and the law requires it, then yes.
            (He’s frocing his beleifs upon oither people…HEY! You said that Christians couldn’t do that! Hypocrite alarm!!!)
            “Do you think that all children should attend public school? (basically, do you support homeschooling, just worded differently.)”

            All children should receive some kind of schooling, and if their parent feels the need to homeschool them, then fine.

            There is my humble interpretation. Pardon my poor spelling and grammar.

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            It looks like average user, Christian or not, sees the truth clearly and states it plain and simple. Thanks, average user.

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          • Thanks, I have always thought that descriminating against any religion on grounds that are baseless is wrong. Every religion has sentiments surrounding it that are just not true, for instance, not all muslim’s hate Christians. Not all muslims want to kill Americans either. Every religion has it’s critics, but some are just plain wrong.

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          • “(Christianity is full of hypocrisy he says, without citing any hypocrisy.) Sounds closed minded.”

            Clearly you haven’t been on here long enough, so you should probably just stop and save yourself some dignity. God says not to kill anyone, guess what Leviticus says to do to anyone who wears multiple material clothing or plays football. God says not to be jealous, so why does he get to be? There are plenty of Christians that think that abortion should be illegal, so why is it that so many think that they’re the exception and get one under the radar? Same with homosexuality, how many people who protest against homosexuality have come out of the closet.

            “Christianity has also: allowed slavery (where?! Stupid Christians maybe. The Bible doesn’t support slavery. ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT)”

            And just who are you to say that the Old Testament no longer applies? There are plenty of Christians who will whip out passages from the OT whenever it’s convenient for them (another bit of hypocrisy), and as far as the NT is concerned:

            “Matthew 18:25: “But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.”"

            There’s just one passage concerning it, feel free to actually read the bible and pull out more if you want to prove yourself wrong. Or hell, go look up pre-Civil War America history, people claimed that Jesus said it was okay to treat the black people as slaves since they were ‘sub-human’.

            “forced women to adhere to extremely strict standards that are not enforced on men (Again this must be the Christians who never read the Bible I guess.)”

            How many times have you seen something along the lines of ‘this is a man’s job’ or people who tell women what not to wear to get raped or how often breast-feeding is looked down upon or how many politicians have basically said that they don’t care if someone gets raped or even said ‘it was God’s will’ that they got raped. Do you live under a rock or do you just ignore your surroundings?

            “suppressed the rights of homosexuals (hey who cares, they have done nothing good, they just hate on Christians for beleiving otherwise and they media and people like L.N. who are puppets of the system play along. His resentment towards Christianity PROVED MY POINT.)”

            My resentment over the fact that a belief system has forced it’s beliefs onto it’s inhabitants regardless of what they actually think of it proved WHAT point? Not only that, but you basically said that you don’t care about the people who are persecuted by Christians and who aren’t allowed to actually be themselves because of the beliefs that Christians have. Apparently because you don’t give a f.uck about a group of people, Christians can do whatever nasty thing to them that they want and you won’t bat an eye.

            “and look down upon anyone who deviates from the norm and rejects any idea that isn’t found in the bible.(I don’t know what this norm is. Christians are now treated like they are strange, so this doesn’t apply)”

            The norm? Do tell me how old you are and what your highest level of education ever was, apparently you really HAVE been living under a rock if you’re past your teenage years. And because you think Christians, who are still in charge of many businesses and hold various positions in our government are treated as if they’re strange, you’re just going to dismiss what I said. F.uckin’ classy, you’re the kind of guy that just ignores evidence that’s right in front of you, aren’t you? Guess that would explain why you’re so damn stupid.

            “( he is obsessed with the old testament which was very strict but was fulfilled by the ultimate blood sacrifice, so, most of it is no longer active in modern worship)”

            So then why do so many Christians pull out the OT if it no longer applies?

            “or how it and the churches will disregard science (science? really? I can tell you about the human geonome, but we won’t go there, yet. Actually, let’s take a good look at it.”

            Please, don’t, my gut can’t take it anymore, laughing at you has already made me light-headed enough as it is.

            “2# Science has proved that the idea of junk DNA left over from the mythical evolution (patent nonsense)is a total lie. (hey I thought that’s what Christianity was!). There is now only 20% of DNA that still has no discovered purpose. Scientists say that that that will be discovered VERY soon.
            If they discover that the last 20% is actively usefull, well, evolution just got a deathblow.”

            A Christian is trying to school someone using Christian Science. Don’t know if that’s irony or just pathetic.

            “3# Another well known myth (everything goes from disorder to order, the keystone of evolution)
            is obviously not true. God says that everything goes from order to disorder. What do we see in the world today? Wow, looks the world isn’t getting any better!”

            Congrats on proving my point that you ARE a Christian. Seriously, did your priest tell you that bulls.hit or did you make it up yourself? Evolution is basically the body deciding what it needs and slowly getting to that point. It’s why we have an organ with no modern use, our bone-structure near our ass looks like it could have had a tail at one point, and slowly but surely, our collective ‘pinkie-toes’ are getting smaller and smaller.

            “( typical uncivil behavior, where did he learn this kind of language? Where does he even have the right to say that about ME?!…Free speech…I know I know.”

            There a point to this or are you going to continue being stupid?

            “HEY! Why can’t I say THAT sort of thing about gay people? People hate on Christians NO BIG DEAL. People curse at gays IT’S THE END OF THE WORLD!!! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!! HATESPEECH! HATESPEECH HATESPEECH!!!!!!!!!!)”

            So when did gay people get to decide who gets to marry who and who has what kinds of rights?

            “( he never pointed out where it is hypocritical, so why should I buy that?!)”

            You ignoring what I pointed out isn’t my fault, it’s yours. Hell, you even admitted to just dismissing my points for no real reason.

            “(maybe I am, but what if I’m just a nice guy from some other religion who knows more about it pointing some other person’s error?)”

            Considering your inability to find issue with many Christians and your constant siding with them and even your blatant disregard for homosexuals because you think they’ve done nothing good, I HIGHLY doubt you’re even a ‘nice guy’.

            “( he doesn’t even know athiests very well)”

            You seem so full of yourself.

            “(Yeah, they do, but that doesn’t stop me from saying that you’re wrong)”

            You’re pulling out absolutely NONE of the arguments that people of other religions would have, however. Jewish people would have an issue with Christians because, well, they believe Jesus is the savior of mankind and they take offense to that. Muslims would have an issue with Christianity because the central figures of the religions are completely different, as well as their core beliefs concerning certain situations.

            “(the Bible has not been slashed edited and cut, I think that he is confusing the Bible with the book of mormon.)”

            There are at least 8 primary versions of the bible, please go do some research BEFORE you make yourself look like an idiot.

            “(not everyone, evidently. A matter of fact, evolutionists are brutally, no, hilariously, outnumbered by Christians)”

            As stated before, just because a million people believe something, doesn’t mean it’s right. The only thing Christians can point to as to why they’re right is a book that says it’s right. People who believe otherwise have mountains of data that shows vastly different results.

            “( actually I can, he’s just displaying how he is in chains like I said previously. He automatically calls me a fool for defend some people’s beleifs.)”

            You’ve shown complete ignorance regarding the subject of religion. You’ve asked me for proof, and when I’ve given it to you, you just dismiss it. You’re a fool not because you defend some people’s beliefs, but because of your inability to THINK.

            “(that doesn’t mean the BIBLE said it)”

            What, that owning slaves was a good thing or accepted? Again, have you read it? Even if you believe that the NT overrides the OT, there are still quite a few grey areas. Jesus didn’t comment on much, and yet plenty of people

            “(the Bible isn’t racist)”

            A rather pointless statement, considering people will use the bible as a tool of racism. How many depictions of a white Jesus are there? Why would Jesus be white when he was born of a Middle Eastern mother and lived in the Middle East? Is the bible racist?

            And there are still some subtle hints of racism as well if you know where to look.

            “(Iguess that’s it for the 10 commandments, murder, adultery and lying is back in style)”

            Apparently you think that leeches are still the best cure for a headache then.

            “(he just doesn’t want to admit it. Why could he just tell me or has he ignored the simple truth that there is right and wrong?)”

            Tell me, what class did you recently take that gave you this high-and-mighty attitude that makes you think you know so much?

            “again he never points anything out, he just shoots blind)”

            Do you want me to reference carbon dating or the skeletons of dinosaurs? Christians think the world is less than 10,000 years old (the highest number any have ever said), so why is there material that existed more than a hundred times that lying around?

            “and the attitude of Christians is ALSO a part of that evidence considering the number of times they’ll flip-flop on issues.
            (I have NEVER “flip-flopped” To boot, he’s shooting blind again)”

            Congrats, you JUST admitted to being a Christian. You sealed the deal right there. I never said you did, I said CHRISTIANS flip-flop. Before, Christians said ‘slavery is what Jesus wanted!’, and now that it’s be banned, they’ll say ‘slavery is a tool of teh devil!’ When science makes a discovery that proves various aspects of Christianity wrong, they’ll say ‘ain’t god just wonderful?’ and completely ignore the fact that not too long ago they said the exact opposite.

            “(Oh really?)”

            Yes really, why, do you want to prevent people from being happy and marry the person they love even if your religion says they shouldn’t? Oh, that reminds me, please do point out where it says in the bible that homosexual marriage is a bad thing.

            “( That’s gross and BTW, that’s called murder. No wonder this guy doesn’t like the Bible. A man hates a doctrine that condemns him, even if it is true.)”

            Egg yolks aren’t chickens, acorns aren’t trees, embryos aren’t humans. And, really, as I said, there are protestors who still get abortions and even when made illegal there are women who are going to want that abortion and they’re going to get it in some way. Apparently you don’t care if they die or you’d rather have more money go into a system that feeds people who can’t afford to feed themselves or their kids.

            “(Most homeschoolers are uncomfortable with having there children raised in a school system that kill children’s ability to think, so yeah, for once, L.N. hits spot on! YEAH!)”

            Are you on the same page as I am? Nevermind, the answer is going to always be ‘no’. Some people will homeschool their children if they’re stuck in a bible-heavy area. Some may do it because the education at the schools are total s.hit, or because there’s an issue with the students or faculty.

            “(He’s frocing his beleifs upon oither people…HEY! You said that Christians couldn’t do that! Hypocrite alarm!!!)”

            The law is the law, the law is not a religion, and the law acts in the interest of the public. If a religious organization is NOT a business and NOT subject to the same set of laws, then they’re free to deny whatever they can to their members. If they ARE a business, however, then what makes them so damn special that they can get away with breaking the law?

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          • He says that I don’t get the “point”, ignore my scientific facts and ignores my questions that he can’t answer. He curses back. Pathetic boy/girl/whatever.

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          • L.N. says the law is the law it has no religion. That is lie. It has a very potent beleif. Christian buisness owners sould not have to provide the employees who THEY chose to hire to stimulate the economy with materials that violate their conscience.

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          • L.N. I did not come to Christwire to argue and since you defy all reasonable evidence, this argument is not going to get far. The junk DNA myth being disproved was disproved and you fail to admit that that is a fatal blow to evolution. You are just angry and you can vent you dislike of Christians and organized religion elsewhere.

            You are flat-out pathetic. Cursing proves that you have nothing more intelligent to say than expletives.

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          • The old OT law is lo longer used, some books like proverbs an the psalms do not contain the old law and thus are still used in modern worship. The OT is mostly a history of the jews and their ways. It still contains prophecies too.

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          • “He says that I don’t get the “point”, ignore my scientific facts and ignores my questions that he can’t answer. He curses back. Pathetic boy/girl/whatever.”

            You provided no ‘scientific facts’, ignored my responses, and insist that you don’t have to answer any of them. The fact that you included swearing as something negative shows how pathetic YOU are. You might also want to try limiting how many times you hit the reply button, try to actually organize your thoughts BEFORE you start typing.

            “L.N. says the law is the law it has no religion. That is lie. It has a very potent beleif.”

            You’re technically right. There SHOULDN’T be any religion that goes into law making and yet there is, something that is slowly starting to change.

            “Christian buisness owners sould not have to provide the employees who THEY chose to hire to stimulate the economy with materials that violate their conscience.”

            Again, THEY are subject to the LAW. What makes them so special that they should be above it? Christians who value their beliefs more than this country are getting pissed off that they can’t bully people around anymore and when they do, they get punished for it. That’s the entire f.ucking foundation of this country, that no religion is established as the dominant one and that the church doesn’t rule over. Considering the number of people who want to force their religious beliefs onto others, it’s pretty damn satisfying to see that they aren’t getting their wishes and that the people that they’ve been suppressing are getting the rights that those Christians didn’t want having rights in the first place. Hell, I’m laughing at the fact that you seem pissed off that gay people are able to marry in more states now (you DID say they were good for nothing and didn’t care that they were bullied to the point of suicide so many times).

            “L.N. I did not come to Christwire to argue”

            Then get the f.uck off, Cultwire is about stupid Christians thinking stupid s.hit and sane people (including sane Christians) telling them to piss off. Fall in line with Cultwire and prepare to be blasted at, or get you some common sense and realize that faith-based legistlation should be considered treason considering the number of religious views and beliefs that exist and that one religion to rule the country is the worst idea possible.

            “and since you defy all reasonable evidence,”

            Saying that Christians should just be inherently immune to any and all criticism because the religion has been around for so long is not evidence of any sort.

            “this argument is not going to get far.”

            Considering you seem to be stuck in the past, I’m not surprised. Come back when you realize we’re in 2013 and not 1913.

            “The junk DNA myth being disproved was disproved and you fail to admit that that is a fatal blow to evolution.”

            You’re the only one bringing up this ‘junk DNA’ myth. At one point, we had that useless organ as a necessity and the ‘tail slot’ was once used by our ancient ancestor for whatever reason. There are only bare traces of it left and the organ is still inside us and develops with each generation, eventually it won’t appear but who knows how long that’ll take.

            “You are just angry and you can vent you dislike of Christians and organized religion elsewhere.”

            And who the f.uck are you to tell me what I can or can’t do? You don’t like it when I tell you you’re wrong so you tell me to leave? You really are stupid, aren’t you?

            “You are flat-out pathetic.”

            Says the whimp that has to reply three times to get your thoughts together and ignores all evidence.

            “Cursing proves that you have nothing more intelligent to say than expletives.”

            Swear words are nothing but words meant to show a type of point, and if you’re going to use that to say how I have ‘nothing intelligent’ to say, then do you want to look back over your typos? Or are you going to turn a blind eye to them?

            “The old OT law is lo longer used, some books like proverbs an the psalms do not contain the old law and thus are still used in modern worship. The OT is mostly a history of the jews and their ways. It still contains prophecies too.”

            So then why do so many Christians pull out passages FROM IT if it’s no longer used? You have continuously failed to state that in your (as of this moment) FOUR replies?

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          • You fail to get the point, Psalms and Proverbs are still perfectly usefull. A man who klnows history will not repeat it. That is another reason we use the OT. Since you don’t care about cursing and try to defend it, I’d like to see you say all of thoses words to your mother. Why do put periods in them like they can’t be shown in full, if they are not a problem?

            Look you have a question, go here:

            http://www.icr.org/

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          • You’re the only one bringing up this ‘junk DNA’ myth. At one point, we had that useless organ as a necessity and the ‘tail slot’ was once used by our ancient ancestor for whatever reason. There are only bare traces of it left and the organ is still inside us and develops with each generation, eventually it won’t appear but who knows how long that’ll take.

            How is that an answer?

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          • You only read a tiny bit of the Bible to make it look bad. Here’s the rest of the story:

            A Brother Who Sins Against You

            15“If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’c 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

            18“I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will bed bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will bee loosed in heaven.

            19“Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.”

            The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant

            21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?”

            22Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.f

            23“Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talentsg was brought to him. 25Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.

            26“The servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go. (Wow)

            28“But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii.h He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

            29“His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’

            30“But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31When the other servants saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened.

            32“Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

            35“This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart.”

            Busted.

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          • America is a Christian nation. In God WE trust on every coin. It even speaks of God in the constituition. A slap in the face of every athiest.

            I’m doing better in this argument because I HAVE NOT cursed at you, only you at me. When only the antagonist curses and no one joins in, it makes you look bad. I don’t care how you see it, I only care how the rest of the world looks upon it…And maybe God.

            BTW, The junk DNA thoery was debunked by secular scientists.

            You reference to an acorn not being a tree was wrong. An acorn IS a tree in a develpment stage. It is not any less of a tree, though. The same with Humans.

            You don’t like religion and I respect your opinion. It would be nice if you could at least tolerate other’s.

            You can’t, it seems.

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          • Someone is getting desperate and it’s not me…

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          • “You fail to get the point, Psalms and Proverbs are still perfectly usefull. A man who klnows history will not repeat it.”

            Which is why Christianity fails because instead of learning about history, it wants to live in it.

            “That is another reason we use the OT.”

            Yet you just got through saying that it’s outdated. Instead of learning from it, why do Christians want to enforce those passages onto the modern world?

            “Since you don’t care about cursing and try to defend it, I’d like to see you say all of thoses words to your mother.”

            What, you want to know what my mother thinks of my swearing? Last she heard me swear, she didn’t bat an eye or care. Congratulations, you STILL fail, do you want to try again? You can’t just go ‘you swear, you lose’ like you’re a damn child.

            “Why do put periods in them like they can’t be shown in full, if they are not a problem?”

            Cultwire put up a complete reply block if it catches any full cursing. Well, f.uck that, if I want to curse, I will, so putting in periods between certain words bypasses that issue entirely.

            “Look you have a question, go here:”

            So to defend your idea and stance that creationism is right, you point to manipulated creationist evidence. Good fail.

            “You’re the only one bringing up this ‘junk DNA’ myth.”

            What, the idea that we have an organ that’s useless, an organ that we can locate on the human body, apparently you think that’s a myth, that it’s existence was once necessary and now isn’t? Again, you look at the evidence in front of you, deny it, and then act like you’re right.

            “How is that an answer?”

            It’s a f.ucking answer. You seem to think that evolution is false or fake or some s.hit, I put out a couple of easy examples of evolution in motion, and you deny it. You’re the one who doesn’t want to understand it, not me.

            “You only read a tiny bit of the Bible to make it look bad. Here’s the rest of the story:”

            Thanks for the bed time story, but adults don’t need those. What was the point of that, to show that slavery is looked down upon in the bible? Well, that certainly didn’t stop Christians from owning slaves for so damn long, did it?

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          • “America is a Christian nation.”

            Where does it say that in any constitutional document?

            “In God WE trust on every coin.”

            Which was added during the Red Scare.

            “It even speaks of God in the constituition. A slap in the face of every athiest.”

            Considering how it was used to scare people, it is a slap in the face. Good job.

            “I’m doing better in this argument because I HAVE NOT cursed at you, only you at me.”

            You’ve yet to explain why that’s such a huge deal.

            “When only the antagonist curses and no one joins in, it makes you look bad.”

            Says who?

            “I don’t care how you see it, I only care how the rest of the world looks upon it…And maybe God.”

            And you want to continue hiding behind anonymity or are you going to admit that you’re a cultist?

            “BTW, The junk DNA thoery was debunked by secular scientists.”

            You know, for someone who keeps complaining about ‘not putting up evidence’, you sure do love to not put up evidence. Just sayin’.

            “You reference to an acorn not being a tree was wrong. An acorn IS a tree in a develpment stage. It is not any less of a tree, though. The same with Humans.”

            Can you cut down an acorn? Can you build a stable house with acorns? Can an acorn house various birds and squirrels and other such wildlife? Can an acorn, BY ITSELF, grow branches? Does an acorn produce sap? It can once it’s a tree, but if you’re going to look at an acorn, and tell me that at it’s current stage, it can do all of that, then you’re a f.ucking idiot.

            “You don’t like religion and I respect your opinion. It would be nice if you could at least tolerate other’s.

            You can’t, it seems.”

            I let it exist, I refuse to let it dictate the lives of the people in this country. You apparently have no care and you have this idea that all Christians are immune to any controversy and that all science is fake.

            “Someone is getting desperate and it’s not me…”

            That’s my line, considering you have to post in rapid succession just to formulate any kind of coherent thought.

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          • You can’t, it seems.”

            I let it exist, I refuse to let it dictate the lives of the people in this country. You apparently have no care and you have this idea that all Christians are immune to any controversy and that all science is fake.

            So you LET it exist? You have the power to destroy it? Nice try.
            So YOU are God now?

            BTW, I post in small sections because I am busy and do not have time to write up a long comment, usually. I have a life. You mother doesn’t care when you curse. That tells what kind of mother she is.

            PARENTING FAIL!

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          • You certainly proved that athiests are dull and have bad attitudes.

            Saying the the desperate line is yours is SO pathetic. You usaully get that line, well, now it’s been taking from you. Don’t be a cry baby over it. Crybaby is a great word for you, you have a cussing fit every time you have to defend you ideas and myths and they fail add up under coles inspection. Christwire is where the dull boys get lambasted, alright.

            You can’t turn a statement on someone and look original OR smart. Only more desperate. Fail.

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          • TAKEN! FAIL TO ADD UP!

            I’m sure there is more problems, but I am in a hurry and I have to get back to my work. We all can understand that.

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          • “So you LET it exist? You have the power to destroy it? Nice try.
            So YOU are God now?”

            You’re really that stupid, aren’t you?

            “BTW, I post in small sections because I am busy and do not have time to write up a long comment, usually. I have a life. You mother doesn’t care when you curse. That tells what kind of mother she is.”

            Again, you seem to think that swearing is some kind of indicator of whether or not I’m right or wrong. And if you can’t manage doing your pre-algebra homework with coherent thoughts, then you should probably pick one or the other.

            “PARENTING FAIL!”

            Considering I’m not some teenaged little s.hit bag that dismisses evidence in front of me, I’d say my mother did a good job of raising me. Perhaps you have issues with your mother? Did she beat you when you were a child?

            “You certainly proved that athiests are dull and have bad attitudes.”

            You’ve proven that you’re a piece of dirt that’s full of yourself.

            “Saying the the desperate line is yours is SO pathetic.”

            Are you ever going to get to a point, or are you going to continue to ramble and make ad hominem attacks? You’re basically telling me I’m wrong because of some stupid insult, please do provide evidence of how you’re right instead of just telling me I’m wrong.

            “You usaully get that line, well, now it’s been taking from you. Don’t be a cry baby over it. Crybaby is a great word for you, you have a cussing fit every time you have to defend you ideas and myths and they fail add up under coles inspection. Christwire is where the dull boys get lambasted, alright.”

            Again, where’s the point of your arguments here, all you’re doing is going ‘lol crybaby’ and ‘lol u swear u suk’ like a f.ucking child.

            “You can’t turn a statement on someone and look original OR smart. Only more desperate. Fail.”

            Says the fool that takes three or more replies to actually get any kind of thought together and even then still fails to provide reasons as to why you deem yourself correct. It’s hilarious, all you’ve done is use very bad insults and terrible logic and you’ve claimed yourself the victor so many times before. Tell me, do you feel proud of yourself? Knowing that you’re nothing but an idiot who insults others, and that not once have you provided an actual argument to ANY of your points, it must feel so incredibly horrible.

            “I’m sure there is more problems, but I am in a hurry and I have to get back to my work. We all can understand that.”

            Your grammar certainly is a problem, and I understand. You need to go rake the leaves or clear the driveway or something for mommy. Go ahead, go do your chores while the big boys talk, ok?

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          • I showed you an entire website of evidenc; you didn’t even look at it. You dismiss science that debunks evolution as “Christian science”. You don’t listen do you? You just think that I don’t. Since I gave my argument and you didn’t understand there really isn’t that much left to do other than point out all you bad manners. You haven’t denied that you have a bad attitude, a matter of fact you haven’t disproved one of my points. Your argument about the tail-slot was dumb. The tail-slot isn’t going away, it isn’t gonig any where. That was probably made up on the spot anyway. There is no part of the human body that has no purpose and it has no changed since early history writings. The human body has had increasing genetic diseases over time, not decreasing genetic problems. More proof to the obvious point that the geonome is degrading.

            BTW, when the geonome degrade so much that it is comprimised, the species goes extinct. It doesn’t become something else. That’s what science has to say.

            That is my argument and there really isn’t whole lot more to say. I showed you the website, check it out. For once. Maybe you will beleive it.

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          • There are multiple cars in the driveway at my house and all the leaves are off the trees by now so neither of those tasks will work.

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          • “I showed you an entire website of evidenc; you didn’t even look at it.”

            You used circulatory arguments. It’s no better than pointing at the bible and saying it’s true because it says so. You aren’t a scientist if you just slap on a lab coat and say ‘evolution is false because God’, you’re an idiot.

            “You dismiss science that debunks evolution as “Christian science”. You don’t listen do you?”

            Considering how you’ll only listen to the same fools who point at the bible and go ‘hey, it says it’s true, so I’ll believe it’, it’s rather difficult for you to claim that I’m not listening.

            “Since I gave my argument and you didn’t understand there really isn’t that much left to do other than point out all you bad manners.”

            You do realize your arguments basically consisted of ‘Christianity is flawless, you’re wrong’, ‘I’m ignoring your evidence’, and ‘Nope, didn’t happen’, right? Your ignorance is on-par with Cultwire, congratulations.

            “You haven’t denied that you have a bad attitude, a matter of fact you haven’t disproved one of my points.”

            I swear a lot, and you think that because of that, that I’m wrong. Considering your attitude and how you’ve acted so far, I wouldn’t say you’re all that positive either.

            “Your argument about the tail-slot was dumb. The tail-slot isn’t going away, it isn’t gonig any where. That was probably made up on the spot anyway.”

            Considering it was more of a phrase and I don’t recall the technical term for it, you’re only half-right. At one point in our evolutionary line, we had tails, and remnants of where the tail was located is still in our bodies. ‘Tail slot’ was nothing more than describing that place.

            “There is no part of the human body that has no purpose and it has no changed since early history writings.”

            Why do men have breast tissue and why do women have a clitoris? They serve no purpose on either gender. You going to continue arguing or do you want another example of why you’re wrong. I’ll admit, there isn’t a whole lot of the human body that’s changed as far as organs and their purpose have gone (barring the appendix and wisdom teeth, another flaw in your idea), but the fact that there HAS indeed been SOME change puts doubt onto your ‘logic’.

            “The human body has had increasing genetic diseases over time, not decreasing genetic problems. More proof to the obvious point that the geonome is degrading.”

            You don’t understand what evolution is at all, do you?

            “BTW, when the geonome degrade so much that it is comprimised, the species goes extinct. It doesn’t become something else. That’s what science has to say.”

            You complain a lot about me not proving my points, and yet all you’ve done is talk yourself. Care to back that bit up from an actual scientific source, or are you going to ask your pastor to blog about it so you can credit him?

            “That is my argument and there really isn’t whole lot more to say. I showed you the website, check it out. For once. Maybe you will beleive it.”

            I’ll ‘beleive’ it if I become a Christian, considering the site uses very flawed logic and lines of thinking. Completely eliminate the key piece of evidence that destroys your argument and of course you’re right, but therein lies the problem; you’re just dismissing evidence. That’s all you’ve done, dismiss evidence and say you’re immune to it.

            “There are multiple cars in the driveway at my house and all the leaves are off the trees by now so neither of those tasks will work.”

            Oh, were you a good little boy and took care of those yesterday? I take it mommy’s making you do the dishes or else you won’t get your allowance, huh?

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          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o7pe3_VQbUM

            Check it out. Watch it all the way through. Tell me if any of the people who cursed, especially the older lady, eneded up looking smart. It’s half and hour, but, you can watch it.

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          • I now see that you are a liberal and you think that ANYONE who isn’t is crazy. It is impossible to be a true beleiver and be a liberal due to the new Democratic platform. Athiesm has no standards. Christians do. If you are a liberal who thinks that gay marriage and abortion is okay, then you are not a Christian, AT ALL. You are just a liberal who thinks that conservative, pro-life people who think that marriage requires on man and one woman are insane. You said it. I will not negotiate with such a closed minded bigot, yep, you’re nothing but a closed minded bigot.

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          • Average user, it is clear to me that you are just as blind as everyone else.

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          • “I now see that you are a liberal and you think that ANYONE who isn’t is crazy.”

            I get the feeling you’re the kind of asshole that uses the word ‘liberal’ as an insult.

            “It is impossible to be a true beleiver and be a liberal due to the new Democratic platform.”

            What defines a ‘true believer’? Not only that, do you really have to be that f.ucking dedicated to your faith that you must FORCE it onto others? You’re basically telling me that Christians should be able to tell everyone what to do, regardless of the fact that they don’t do the things they say either, and that the moment anyone says anything otherwise, you think that Christians are being repressed.

            “Athiesm has no standards. Christians do.”

            Christians (like you) need to be baited in order to be good and think it’s impossible to have a moral code already, and that it has to be learned from a book instead of social interaction.

            “If you are a liberal who thinks that gay marriage and abortion is okay, then you are not a Christian, AT ALL.”

            Go ahead, show me one ounce of proof that gay marriage is a bad thing and that making abortions illegal will be a good thing. I know for a fact that you’ll have to pull out your ‘handy-dandy’ bible and inevitably pull passages out from the OT (which you call obsolete) in order to show me your ‘proof’, and that making abortions illegal will do nothing but cause more women to be damaged or dead or cause more financial problems.

            “You are just a liberal who thinks that conservative, pro-life people who think that marriage requires on man and one woman are insane. You said it.”

            Are you quoting me verbatim or paraphrasing? Though, honestly, you’re right. You can’t find one negative thing about homosexuals without resorting to religion and you don’t care if the women that get pregnant through whatever means suffer with a child or not.

            “I will not negotiate with such a closed minded bigot, yep, you’re nothing but a closed minded bigot.”

            Says the religious and insane idiot. Seriously, you’re as bad as the rest of Cultwire.

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          • You compare me to Christwire.

            You’re too blind to see the obvious difference.

            1. Christwire says kill and hate gays.
            I don’t.

            2. Christwire is dumb
            I’m not.

            3. According to Christwire’s signs of being a false beleiver, I’m not a Christian.

            4. According to Christwire defintions, I’m supposed to be gay.
            I’m not, obviously.

            5. I disagree with 99% of what Christwire says.

            6. Oh, yeah, they beleive that zombies are for real.
            I don’t.

            BTW, The only “outdated” element of the OT is the old law, which amounts to VERY LITTLE of the OT. I’m just a normal person. There is a BIG difference between Christwire and normal people. Everybody says DON’T JUDGE!!! They just don’t want to hear the truth about their sinful lifestyles. They just create this Christian stereotype that says anyone who disagrees with them is and idiot. That automatically shows how chained you are to your false beleif that you are good unto yourself. Man is not intrinsically good and at this time in history that should be obvious.

            What do we have, if not for beleif?

            Nothing.

            You are the worst ambassador for athiesm EVER!

            When people see the truth they don’t like it. They curse the person who points it out, sorta like what happened to Jesus.

            When did I have the “holier than thou” attitude? Never. You just have no morals and you don’t like people who have any form of accountability. Get some standards, you need them.

            You’re just as desperate as ever. The moment you started treating your opponent like a child you proved that you think like one. Grow up. You’re so petty. You think it’s your way or the highway and that will never happen.

            Like I said, you’re desperate and now you just thowing insults at me to try to look tougher than you really are.

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          • Here L.N., is this the evidence you need?
            It’s even written by a former athiest.

            About the Author: As a former atheist, Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God’s offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.

            http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

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          • “You compare me to Christwire.

            You’re too blind to see the obvious difference.”

            Sure. The hateful attitude, the spite towards other lines of thinking, you’re COMPLETELY different.

            “1. Christwire says kill and hate gays.
            I don’t.”

            They still support the oppression of homosexuals and prevent them from attaining equal rights. You support those ideas and made the claim that ‘they haven’t done anything good’ and so forth.

            “BTW, The only “outdated” element of the OT is the old law, which amounts to VERY LITTLE of the OT.”

            But you just said that the OT doesn’t matter anymore not that long ago.

            “I’m just a normal person. There is a BIG difference between Christwire and normal people. Everybody says DON’T JUDGE!!! They just don’t want to hear the truth about their sinful lifestyles.”

            Except who are you to say that their life is sinful when you’re only using one point of view.

            “They just create this Christian stereotype that says anyone who disagrees with them is and idiot.”

            Considering your grammar, you seem to prove that stereotype right. That, and your inability to look at evidence or realize that not everyone

            “That automatically shows how chained you are to your false beleif that you are good unto yourself. Man is not intrinsically good and at this time in history that should be obvious.”

            You mean the vast history of Christians doing horrible things, like slavery, rape, murder, and oppression? Good job showing me that Christianity is what makes you good.

            “What do we have, if not for beleif?

            Nothing.”

            You’re a pretty sad soul if you think you need God to find a reason to live or exist or ANYTHING.

            “You are the worst ambassador for athiesm EVER!”

            The fact that you look at one person and think they represent the entirety of ANYTHING shows how stupid you really are.

            “When people see the truth they don’t like it. They curse the person who points it out, sorta like what happened to Jesus.”

            Except there’s no proof that anything Jesus said or did was true, that Jesus was the ‘true son of God’, or anything. He could’ve been an insane street bum that knew some fancy magic tricks and had interesting stories to tell. Hell, there’s no proof that Christianity is right in the first place.

            “When did I have the “holier than thou” attitude? Never. You just have no morals and you don’t like people who have any form of accountability. Get some standards, you need them.”

            Right there, you think you have morals when you dismiss evidence and tell people that they’re worthless and that they have no standards.

            “You’re just as desperate as ever. The moment you started treating your opponent like a child you proved that you think like one. Grow up. You’re so petty. You think it’s your way or the highway and that will never happen.”

            Considering your attitude, odds are you ARE a child, some punk teen who’s been brainwashed by your mom, dad, or priest into thinking that only one religion out of who knows how many is the right one and only your interpretation of it, who’s been given internet access and thinks he knows more about the world just because he listened to some fairy tales.

            “Like I said, you’re desperate and now you just thowing insults at me to try to look tougher than you really are.”

            It doesn’t take much to get under your skin, does it? Look, if you aren’t going to back up what you say with FACTS and instead try to argue that you’re right ‘just because’, then you ARE a child. I take that back actually, I know children that have better arguments than you do.

            “Here L.N., is this the evidence you need?
            It’s even written by a former athiest.”

            You mean that idiot that decided because of a couple lucky events and an empty void and some desperate wanting to be loved is apparently enough evidence that God exists, even though what she says is HIGHLY skeptical and full of the same kind of flaws as your ideas?

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          • I know this much, Humans are intrinsically evil. morality is taught, especially at an early age.

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          • Athiests are no better. You say that their is basic human morality. There is no book of athiesm 101. Athiesm is every man to their own beleifs. Christians have churches that 1, help the surrounding community 2, help each other through difficult times 3, give each other moral support.

            Apricot was right in saying that man is intrinsically evil.

            You think I an an idiot, you misrepresent me all the time, too.

            You hate the idea that one day their will be a righteous trial for everybody’s sin. You dissmiss all my evidence. I’m the only one who has backed up my views with websites and articles. You wouldn’t look into ICR becuase you said that they had wrong lines of thinking. I think that you do; I think that athiests do. You think that we are wrong and the have no evidence that we are right, thus, you don’t have to give you own. Your opinions on abortion are nothing but an opinion, they are not truth. I’ll tell you what I detest the opinion (it is nothing but an opinion)that you don’t care about unborn children’s lives.

            The truth about the founder of planned parenthood:

            http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

            Not a very nice lady, was she?
            Talk about evil begginings.
            You have not right to say anything about Christianity when you approve of a buisness like THAT.

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          • “Athiests are no better.”

            Here’s the difference: atheists aren’t the ones that parade around and claim to know everything about the world, Christians are. What’s worse, a man, or an asshole who think he’s a hero?

            “You say that their is basic human morality.”

            Yes, there is. As we learn, we realize that there are just certain things that we don’t want to happen to us. It’s when we’re given power that we test ourselves.

            “There is no book of athiesm 101.”

            Your point?

            “Athiesm is every man to their own beleifs.Christians have churches that 1, help the surrounding community 2, help each other through difficult times 3, give each other moral support.”

            1. Help the surrounding community out how? By doing charity work? Not an inherent quality about Christianity, there are plenty of atheists that do the same thing.

            2. Help each other through difficult times? What’s funny is how often Christians tend to do the exact opposite.

            3. Again, you’re making the claim that humans don’t have morals whatsoever, and that atheists are incapable of doing so. Where is your proof that any single thing you just said here is right?

            “Apricot was right in saying that man is intrinsically evil.”

            That’s Apricot’s view, and considering he apparently has personal ties to Christianity, I’d take what he says with a grain of salt as well about the nature of human beings, especially considering his attitude towards life in general.

            “You think I an an idiot, you misrepresent me all the time, too.”

            No, you really are an idiot. You have yet to actually prove yourself right. Even the f.ucking pony, when he was being as stupid as you are (rather, were when I was actually giving you some credit), managed to do a better job of defending his points.

            “You hate the idea that one day their will be a righteous trial for everybody’s sin.”

            And you know that this day will happen how? Again, you’re banking on the idea that your religion is right, and instead of going ‘well, that’s what I believe, you can do whatever’, you insist that others should be forced to follow your views.

            “You dissmiss all my evidence.”

            Creationist scientists aren’t actual sciencists. Actual scientists come up with an idea, test it, see the results and see how it differs from their idea, while creationist scientists will come up with an idea and force an experiment to get the results they want and then act as if they’re right without being asshats that manipulated their research.

            “I’m the only one who has backed up my views with websites and articles.”

            You’ve shown me a YouTube video that was pointless and you’ve shown me a creationist site and told me about an idiot that became a Christian because of 6 extremely faulty points. Hell, your own ‘evidence’ did nothing but backfire against you.

            “You wouldn’t look into ICR becuase you said that they had wrong lines of thinking. I think that you do; I think that athiests do. You think that we are wrong and the have no evidence that we are right, thus, you don’t have to give you own.”

            Well, look at your bible. It says the Earth is, what, 10,000 years at most? Then why do we have bones from ancient beasts that are over 100 million years old? It says Adam and Eve were the first humans, so why is it that we have skeletons of creatures that would eventually became human beings. Your own bible is my evidence as to why you’re wrong, considering we have findings that show them to be wrong. Hell, you can’t even prove that the ‘god’ you worship, is actually the devil. Ask yourself this: what makes more sense, fool people into believing you aren’t real, or fool people who worship an idol into thinking that YOU are that idol. Remember, you’re supposed to represent all of the evils of the world, why convince people you don’t exist when you can just trick them into thinking you’re the creator?

            And you’ve yet to answer just why you think Christianity is the one true answer and no other religion was right. Why would god keep this a secret from so many people? Why would he let just a group of people called Jews know how to get into Heaven and not the entire world? If God was real, why were there so many other religions before, and after, and why would he not spread word of his own existence HIMSELF to countries that don’t know any better? You’re basically telling me that until the Europeans came over, every single Native American went to Hell because your god was such an asshole that he didn’t bother telling them about him, as well as everyone in Africa, Asia, and South America. Do remember, just because so many people believe it, doesn’t mean it’s true; the plague affected almost all of Europe at one point, so should that mean that everyone should have the plague?

            “Your opinions on abortion are nothing but an opinion, they are not truth. I’ll tell you what I detest the opinion (it is nothing but an opinion)that you don’t care about unborn children’s lives.”

            Except there IS not actual life, the damn thing isn’t BORN yet. Until a certain period of time, when abortion is basically illegal in every person’s mind, the fetus is just a mass of cells. It has no brain, no heart, no real system. It’s converting the DNA that was put into it to a human shape, taking quite awhile to do so and until then, it isn’t alive. How can you murder what isn’t alive?

            “Not a very nice lady, was she?
            Talk about evil begginings.
            You have not right to say anything about Christianity when you approve of a buisness like THAT.”

            God created evil and you refuse to admit it. Funny, who’s more evil now, your demented evil God or a woman who many have slammed and created false stories about?

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          • some parents let there kids do whatever they want and the children grow up as bratty, whiny, self-centered assholes.

            I think that’s evidence enough that morality is taught. My concern for Atheism is that they too will suffer the same cosmic telephone game that Christianity underwent. Eventually, we will lose all sense of why we did things a certain way and wonder why the world is a black pit of woe. It took Christianity only a couple Millennium to forget itself and it had a book telling it what to do.

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  • Certainly. Please show respect to your elders. Thank you.

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  • I’m new to Christwire. Any tips?

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    • What are their best articles? What are their worst?

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      • Pretty much every article on here is their worst… There are a few gems (Like this article)… But it’s best to just assume the worst on this site…

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        • Your contributions certainly are, you godless pedophile!

          This is the true face of godless OddRapist: http://pikachuxash.tumblr.com/

          I am going to start a petition to ban him from the site, he’s worse than the homogays.

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          • What the f*ck is your problem? Why do you keep linking to that crapy Tumblr?

            Look… If you think MLP has anything to do with pedophiles, rapists, child molesters, or beastiality… It’s not my fault that you’re too blind to see how f*cling stupid that is… It’s all baseless assumption used just because you think a guy can’t watch a show for little girls without having some mental issue…

            Get over it… People can watch shows outside their demographic… No problems about it

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          • I’m not going to complain about you cursing, I’m just going to tell you when you spell ‘em wrong. It’s crappy not crapy. Sorry I just HAD to say that. I think I did it for fun.

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          • simmer down, sally.

            you are playing into the game.

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          • Lurlene, you don’t even have a clue…Just how mean/dumb/wrong that comment was.

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          • Cassidy Pen Cornelius Bartholomew "Cassidy" Pen

            What a sadomite.

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        • I figured that out the moment I saw what Lurlene said about you.

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      • Average User, every single article on this netsite is in a first-place tie for “best”.

        Praise!

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        • Erich, you can’t think for yourself, obviously. It’s shocking just how blind some people can be…

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      • the comments are the true gems

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  • onceaponatimetherewasme onceaponatimetherewasme

    “greed, gluttony, and gimme gimme gimme”
    that’s 5 g’s

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  • You should also mention that child molesters like OddRapist are already turning 2013 into a year when they will groom innocent Christian children with pony sex: http://pikachuxash.tumblr.com/

    Code word: “Friendship is magic”. Don’t let the pastels fool you.

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    • I thought we’d get in trouble with the admins for posting explicit imagery.

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      • That is your explicit imagery, you godless pedophile, luring good Christian children into a world of bestiality.

        Don’t you know that a homogay died when he had sex with a horse?

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        • I read that story and laughed at human stupidity.

          I’m not the one posting outright adult content on a public website.

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        • Sometimes I just have to say, some people just need to get a clue.

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          • The irony of this statement is off the charts.

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          • I am being ironic when I say that a lady who has a record of calling people homogay rapist needs to get a clue? Hardly. Lurlene makes crazy assumptions and calls most evrybody else either a rapist, a gay rapist, a gay person, or a pedophile. If she doesn’t accuse a person of ANY of those then she says that they are luring Christian children into beastality. I think she needs to get a clue. Apricot would probably agree.

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          • don’t ask me to judge people.

            no one will like my answers.

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          • I’m sure.

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          • Erich, would you walk up to someone RANDOMLY on the street and say: You godless pedophile, you are luring good Christian children into a world of bestiality.

            Don’t you know that a homogay died when he had sex with a horse?

            If you would, then you have no social grace altogether.

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    • Hey Lurlene… F*ck you

      Just because I happen to like a show meant for little girls doesn’t make me a freaking pedophile

      That assumption is f*cking baseless and you know it… Or maybe you don’t because you’re freaking brainwashed by this imbecilic site into thinking that there is any connection between men watching MLP and a f*cking pedophile

      (PS: to anyone who wants to get on my case for swearing, I don’t care… She called me a freaking pedophile and a rapist… I’m not taking this lying down)

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    • I opened your link and I was like, what the?! You are crazy lady…Seriously.

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    • Metalcore Fan

      Is this like me commenting that KoRn video 20 times just 20 times more pointless?

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  • My New Year Resolution

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZMjFC_RgY

    cause mayhem and watch people squirm

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  • There has been some heavy commenting on this article.

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  • It isn’t truly the new year until you make it to your birthday.

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