World Wide Prayer – A Euniversal Success!
AP (Associated Press) Topeka Kansas. Church authorities are calling the universal group prayer as having a significant impact on Mayan Apocalypse that never took place on 12-21-2012.Today Americans shared a collective sigh of relief that indeed the World’s End was narrowly defeated by the power of prayer. Church authorities around the globe are praising religious leaders like The Good Reverend Skeeter G McAssert at the Holier Than Thou Church of the Conservative Shepherd along with ordained minister Eunice Wentworth for their powerful prayer ceremony skyped nationally over Christian Tuner Radio and other syndicated stations.The broadcast received international attention. As reported in the Topeka Times, another lesser known baptist church also held prayer vigils that lasted into the night. Towels were dripping with sweat while lithe bodies heaved . solemn prayer and gospel music played and many held hands rejoicing as night turned into day. The service in Arkansas was accompanied by the Jiggy D. Wimple Jug Band, and a very special children’s chorus. “Because of the church’s generosity in praying for all sinners, Christian and non Christian alike, the event was deemed a phenomenal success and one that will go down in the history books.” Said E Rock Burnside, a Deacon from Salt Lake City, Utah and a prominent Evangelical Leader. “Be grateful that all lives were spared,” said Ms. Wentworth who has also had success with demonic eradication and boner suppression therapy. Wentworth’s last exorcism involved Vermin Supreme, celebrity, comedian and political activist. Mr. Supreme was afflicted by demonic voices , negatively impacting his political career. The demons had housed themselves in a boot Vermin wore on his head and spoke to him in tongues. He is now demon-free. Christwire has made arrangements for a secret prayer intervention in Topeka; a hub of unabashed sin and wanton adultery.
The praying was deeply intense, reports Pastor Bynum from Kansas. “Our hearts and souls radiated pure love” as evidenced in the photo above.
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Political agitator at Americans for Inequality, campaigned strongly against Vermin Supreme until I cured him of demonic possession. Now we are BFFs. I enjoy the Facebook, crochet and mixing martinis, especially dirty ones.
I'm a lonely widow only seeking to meet new friends as my life is an absurd island of loneliness. I believe in faith and wisdom. Hard work is a staple to a happy, productive living. I swim and do the yogas but for the most part shopping and relaxing at spas keeps me very busy and useful. I'm proud to be a well off American. Scrabble anyone? I'll kick your ass.
9:14 pm
*yawn* Meanwhile, while the last candles of Dec. 21st continued melting, I was playing Pikmin 2 and The Last Story through my old and tired, but still functional Wii.
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10:09 pm
Proof that prayer works! I have been praying that all of the naysayers who comment on this netsite will accept the love of Christ into their bodies and be saved (except for LN). Get ready, heathens, Jesus is coming for you! Praise!
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12:36 am
So proof that doing nothing did something when nothing happened? By the way, isn’t the end of the world according to the bible NOT supposed to be known at all? We could all very well die tomorrow or right after I hit the ‘submit comment’ button and yet we’ll have no idea it’s coming if the bible is to be believed.
Are you saying that the bible ISN’T true?
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1:36 pm
Even thought L.N. calls me a @$$hole I will say praying for someone to not be saved is satanic. Satan wants people to want others to remain unsaved. What are you, satan’s best freind or one of God’s children?
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5:45 pm
Read your bible, MetalBore. The Satan is your god’s buddy. He’s his district attorney and sting-operations man.
In your bible, Job did nothing wrong but your god got Satan to murder his family.
Satan killed Job’s family *under your god’s instructions* because your God wanted to see if that would make Job curse him. Sick, eh?
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6:25 pm
Satan said, “Job will walk away from you if he has any hardship”. God said, “I’d like to see you try”. Satan failed and Job got double what he had before.
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2:28 am
Uh… but his whole family had been murdered. They were just collateral damage in your god’s sick bet with his buddy, Satan.
You can’t pretend that Satan is a bad guy and your god is a good guy when they are both in it together.
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7:48 pm
Satan ASKED God to let him try to make Job fall away. You think God asked Satan to do that? You obviously didn’t read YOUR Bible, AntiChrist Pony. You are nothing but a God-hater.
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2:17 am
Considering how God created Satan and knew exactly what was going to happen, then yes, Pony has a point. That, and God didn’t bother to bring back the people that died, all he did was replace them. God’s all knowing, he knows exactly what is going to happen, and to him, there’s only one path the world can take, so really, he’s responsible for all of the evils in the world because he knows about them, he created the events that led up to those evils in the first place, and yet does NOTHING to intervene. People praise God for any good and yet ignore all of the evil he’s guilty of. Someone says ‘bless god’ for saving them, and yet it’s because of god that it happened in the first place.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
You can’t bring up free will and ‘god is all knowing’ in the same sentence, unless it’s to point out a contradiction between the two, because how can we have free will AND god know everything? The whole idea of free will is that we make our own destiny, and the whole idea of god knowing everything is that, well, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING including our destiny, so how can we REALLY have free will if our end is predetermined by something that knows exactly what’s going to happen? This isn’t some time-travel movie plot, this is real life and yet not one single christian can actually answer any of these points without resorting to ‘just shut up’ or ‘it is my belief’ or ‘god is mysterious’. If god is good, why is there evil, why would god choose and favor rich white athletes who already have a decent amount of skill or talent as opposed to starving African children who haven’t lived long enough to actually do any real harm and realize it, why would he curse his own creations when he knew that it would happen anyway? The real point of Original Sin is that, if anything, we’re having to pay for HIS mistakes.
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3:09 pm
God also sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins, though. A God promised in Revalation that he would destroy all evil AND Satan forever. All wickedness was defeated when Jesus died on the cross.
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4:45 pm
“God also sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins, though.”
Why would he need to do that in the first place though? Why would he send his son to specifically die for us just so he can forgive us, when apparently Jesus and god are the same being? You’re telling me he couldn’t drop down a giant pillar of light in the middle of the night and tell the world ‘hey, I’m gonna change the rules now, ok?’
“A God promised in Revalation that he would destroy all evil AND Satan forever. All wickedness was defeated when Jesus died on the cross.”
God is still the SOURCE of all the evil. Where did all the evil come from? You say Satan. Who made Satan? God. Does God know everything? Then he knows that he COULD stop Satan before evil enveloped the world. Why didn’t he? Because either God doesn’t exist, or God himself is evil. After all, if God is all good and full of love, why would he allow evil in the first place? If he’s all powerful, why not have a day where everyone specifically feels a negative emotion to remind them what love is. Why is it God is exempt from the rules he puts into place? Jealousy is a sin and yet God himself is extremely jealous if he’s going to send someone who doesn’t worship him right to Hell. That’s also just ONE of the MANY interpretations of the bible, which many also interpret differently.
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11:38 pm
God sent Jesus as the ultimate display of love, by giving his only son. A truly great sacrifice indeed. Now tell me, Christianity has changed 1000000′s of lives for good, so why do you act like it is bad? As for your comments on free will, it is a highly debated subject among Christians. Some say that people have free will, others don’t. I think God orchestrated everything so I think that we don’t have free will. It WOULD be hypocritical to beleive otherwise. I think God has maybe a general plan and we fill in the details.
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9:55 pm
is it malevolent to simply not intervene?
people talk about God as if he is supposed to be the altruistic caretaker of our problems. they bring up the point that he created the evil in the world and then curse him for not preventing it.
there is something to be said for learning through hardship, why would an omnipotent being hand us our lessons without earning them? We are better off learning through mistakes.
as for the Story of Job, I believe Satan challenged God’s loyalty among his subjects and God wanted to prove him wrong. I can’t say such a thing is an act of righteousness, in fact, it is rather childish. However I have no reason to believe God is perfect. It seems to me he created us out of desire rather than because “he is God”, much like a robotics engineer will try to replicate humanity through artificial means. he will impart what he believes we should follow and doesn’t fully grasp his creation’s methods.
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1:21 am
I just remembered how much I don’t really care.
oh well; it makes the most sense to me.
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1:54 am
“God sent Jesus as the ultimate display of love, by giving his only son. A truly great sacrifice indeed.”
Still doesn’t answer the question as to why he needed to do it in the first place if he could simply just snap his fingers and forgive humanity. Why the need for a sacrifice? If the idea is that the Old Testament no longer applies, why bother with one? Why sacrifice his son who is also himself somehow for a task that didn’t require it. It’s not like he sent a messenger and that the message was “I will only forgive you all if you stop being assholes for five years straight, if one person screws up, you’re all screwed and I reset the timer”, that would’ve been the smart thing to do, and what about all of the other cultures where the Judeo-Christian God didn’t exist? Why didn’t THEY get some figure and why didn’t God bring himself over THERE? You’re telling me he just waited until some asshat screwed up his sailing and have him and his crew bring his word to the natives who have entirely different systems of religion and let them all burn in hell?
“Now tell me, Christianity has changed 1000000′s of lives for good, so why do you act like it is bad?”
It’s also caused a LOT of bad. As in, we’d probably have flying cars because science accelerated that much but religion f.ucked that up bad and wars declared and fought in the name of religion bad and ‘you aren’t doing what I like so I’m going to twist the word of God and MAKE you do what I want’ bad. Religion allowed slavery and the oppression of women and minorities and those who have different sexualities. God made a man a drunk and yet that man claims God freed him from the very curse that was put on him. That’s not love, that’s Stockholm Syndrome.
Now, here’s the thing; we’re STILL feeling the negative effects of religion. It’s going to take those who feel that, regardless of religion, certain rights should NEVER be considered ‘special’ and should be allowed by EVERYONE to have (the right to marry, hold a job, and find happiness), and it’s because of religion that people deny others jobs, the right to marry, and the right to find happiness. The founders of America wanted as LITTLE, if not then NO religion to be established in this country as far as the legal system is concerned; not one single religion should ever be favored for another when lawmakers are put into a room, and they should be punished if they tried otherwise. Now look at America, so many assholes saying ‘the founding fathers would hate to see a Muslim in the oval office’ or ‘those faggots shouldn’t be able to get married cuz it goes against the bible’ when the EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE. They’d LOVE to see someone who isn’t Christian take up the role of the President of the Free World, they’d love to know that religion has no bearing on who has what kinds of rights even IF their own personal religions would have them be against it because they valued FREEDOM over RELIGION. The fact that you would support any laws that would suppress people who’s ideas your religion is against speaks volumes of what kind of person you really are.
“As for your comments on free will, it is a highly debated subject among Christians. Some say that people have free will, others don’t. I think God orchestrated everything so I think that we don’t have free will.”
So then wouldn’t EVERY SINGLE THING you’ve tried to ever do to someone else be in vain considering the end is already set? You can’t ‘prevent someone from going to Hell’ if your god already ordained them to go to Hell in the first place. If you believe that our fate is set in stone and no force can change it, then really, you’re only fooling yourself if you think you can.
“It WOULD be hypocritical to beleive otherwise. I think God has maybe a general plan and we fill in the details.”
Then God isn’t all-knowing, and from there it simply crumbles as to how ‘almighty’ the almighty really is. Either God has a plan or he doesn’t, and if you think he has a plan and that we have free will, then you’re a fool, and if you think he DOESN’T have a plan, then how is he all-knowing?
“We are better off learning through mistakes.”
You may not care about the subject anymore, but this WOULD be a good point-if there weren’t so many ways to completely bury it. If you had the power, would you stop someone from being raped? What about being murdered? Mugged? If a fight broke out and someone was going to be heavily injured but you could stop it, would you? On the opposite end, would you do any of those things (rape, murder, mug, and assault) to anyone else? God has the power to stop these horrible acts, and yet does nothing. Instead, if the concept of no free-will is to be believed, then that means that he has allowed these acts to happen.
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2:38 am
Outstanding, LN! Have you been taking your sensible pills all of a sudden?
Those last couple of comments are by far the most cogent, coherent and incisive I’ve ever seen you write.
Interesting that MentalBore has outed himself as a predestinationist.
That only makes his god all the more horrible by creating people with the express intention of torturing them for all time.
4pricot, it is true that adversity can be character-building in some circumstances.
But a deity that arranges for babies to be born into starvation and live agonisingly painful, hungry, miserable lives only to die before they are old enough to form the concept of right and wrong is not helping anybody.
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3:15 pm
God did not make evil. The moment God defined what was good he defined evil. God gave all of his angels freedom to choose which to follow. Satan, who was jealous of God choose to be evil. God gives evryone on free will to one degree: people can choose to either resist or succumb to sin. God knows what they will choose, but he did not make their decisions. God could have saved humaity instantly but he chose not to rather he decided to give them a choice so simple that only a fool would choose otherwise.
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9:18 pm
MentalBore,
Are you slinking away from predestination now just because it makes your god indefensibly evil?
Have you checked with MacArthur to make sure that your theology is sound?
It wouldn’t do for you to be preaching free will when your homo-hating idol is preaching predestination.
“The moment God defined what was good he defined evil.”
So stabbing babies in the eyes is not intrinsically evil? It’s only evil because your god says so?
Of course, your god is in favour of dashing babies brains out on rocks as in Psalm 137:9.
“God gave all of his angels freedom to choose which to follow. Satan, who was jealous of God choose to be evil.”
That is a fairy story not even supported by the bible. Book, chapter and verse please.
“God knows what they will choose, but he did not make their decisions.”
What is your evidence for this?
“God could have saved humaity instantly but he chose not to”
So he is evil…
“give them a choice so simple that only a fool would choose otherwise.”
Why did he make so many fools? For the express purpose of torturing them for all eternity?
Your feeble attempts at apologetics are self-serving, supercilious and transparently baseless.
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3:09 pm
That’s fools say.
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10:24 pm
Pony, for the first time, you’re actually reading what I’m saying. I’ve been saying those things already for awhile now, YOU just like to pitch a fit that those are my views.
“God did not make evil. The moment God defined what was good he defined evil.”
And that’s different from making evil how?
“God gave all of his angels freedom to choose which to follow. Satan, who was jealous of God choose to be evil.”
Satan was only jealous and ‘evil’ in certain versions. In others, he was a hollow shell that did EXACTLY what God commanded, with no voice or thought of his own. It more or less went God was the brain, Metatron was the voice, and Satan was the body.
“God gives evryone on free will to one degree: people can choose to either resist or succumb to sin.”
Still can’t know everything and give anyone any amount of free will. To know everything means to know what is going to happen, so how can we make our own destiny if it’s already known, and if god DOESN’T know EVERYTHING, then his status as omnipotent quickly begins to crumble.
“God knows what they will choose, but he did not make their decisions.”
And yet, neither did we because how can our destiny be up in the air if he knows about it already.
“God could have saved humaity instantly but he chose not to rather he decided to give them a choice so simple that only a fool would choose otherwise.”
Which is exactly why he let said fools dictate and direct the entire future of mankind by using him as an excuse to get done with what they wanted.
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3:18 pm
Think about it L.N., the moment you sat down and really thought about what you defined as exactly good, you instantly defined what you thought was exactly bad. You might not have wanted to do that but by defining what you thought was good you also defined what you thought was evil.
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4:19 am
why didn’t my comment post?
oh well, I can shorten it.
We are the cause of our own evil. Rape, Murder and other forms of attack on fellow man are the result of humanity, not of God. why doesn’t he stop it? because it is our own undoing, not his. Granted, that doesn’t stop him from making sure we don’t put our heads too far up our asses.
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4:10 pm
Metalcore, the big difference between me and god is, aside from omnipotence, I would actually try to stop the evils I see if I had the power. God, however, can do literally anything it wants, and yet chooses not to. Why? Because it’s OUR mistake? So I ask you the same questions I asked Apricot, and speaking of which…
And Apricot, I ask again: if you saw a rape happening before your eyes, would you try to stop it? Why or why not? Would YOU ever rape someone? Why or why not?
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6:35 pm
L.N., you seem confused. God punishes sinners. God made hell to punish rapists and murderers etc. who do not repent. Anyone who sins and does not repent will be punished. God made that very clear. BTW, the difference between you and God is: He is God and you are not.
You will die and God will not, I will die and God will not. There are many more obvious differences then I care to list, but you get the point.
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1:47 am
“L.N., you seem confused. God punishes sinners. God made hell to punish rapists and murderers etc. who do not repent.”
And yet non-believers who don’t sin are also thrown in there as well. According to God, if you fall out of line, you go to hell, and what happens if you sin and you die before you get the chance to repent? What about sinning to save another person’s life? How are sins even weighed, is it you sin once and if you don’t repent you go to hell? What if on their death bed someone prays for forgiveness even after they’ve committed all sorts of atrocities, would they go to heaven?
“Anyone who sins and does not repent will be punished. God made that very clear. BTW, the difference between you and God is: He is God and you are not.”
And god is evil. Clearly you missed the point of what I was getting at: I would do my best to stop evil, God apparently doesn’t give a f.uck until you’re dead, and even then that’s only if they hadn’t prayed prior to their death. He isn’t going to do anything to stop it. He could stop someone who’s about to murder an innocent individual, but doesn’t. He could prevent someone from trying to rape another person, but doesn’t. He could stop a terrorist attack but doesn’t. He has the power, and chooses not to. He literally makes the rules of the universe, according to you, and yet he doesn’t give a damn.
Either god is flawed or you’re wrong entirely, and considering the number of hypocrisies that are inside the bible, odds are you are just flat-out WRONG. God is responsible for every single evil in the world. He could stop all of the evil, but doesn’t. What will get you eternal torture is a list with an incredible high amount of offenses, and apparently even the worst human being in the world can get into heaven thanks to a loophole in god’s logic.
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11:13 am
I’d never commit such a heinous act. but I’ve all but given up on humanity. my way of stopping a rape would be Swift Justice.
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1:18 am
“my way of stopping a rape would be Swift Justice.”
So you’d actually try to stop it, and you wouldn’t do it yourself, you wouldn’t allow it to happen if you could help it, right? So why does God get off scot-free?
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2:45 am
because the crime is our own fault
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2:32 pm
Today was Sunday so I went to church. Guess what my pastor talked about? He spoke on God’s plan and how man looks upon it. Man has a very hard time understanding God’s plan because he is only in the here and now. We have a hard time understanding why God would let atrocities like rape and murder happen with our finite minds. God’s infinite wisdom however, is in the past the present and the future and his understanding is perfect. He uses all things for greater good. We can only see small glimpses and fragments of his plan. Take Jesus dying on the cross, for an example. The disciples thought that this was the worst thing that could happen, but it turned out to be the best thing that had happened in the entire history of the world. God never uses an event for evil.
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3:04 pm
God can literally do anything and everything, the rules of the universe bend to his will, and yet he’ll still allow atrocities to happen. You can’t say ‘he makes a bad thing turn good’ when he can literally prevent each and every single one of those bad things from happening. He’s supposed to be capable of literally anything, and yet apparently he’s quite weak if he let’s show much s.hit happen on a daily basis. What, he can’t beam an image into our heads of exactly the kind of s.hit that awaits people in hell (which that in itself is one giant piece of mess that doesn’t make sense).
God CHOOSES to let people suffer because God is WEAK.
“because the crime is our own fault”
But you just said you’d stop a crime if you could. It’s not your fault the crime is happening, but you decided to take it upon yourself to stop it from happening. God can do it too, but chooses not to.
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3:42 pm
God also says that fools will look at God and the Bible and call it a mess. Lulz! It’s true.
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1:48 am
And Christians are too stupid to see the truth. Having an imaginary friend that tells you what to do is signs of some serious trouble, go talk to a psychiatrist before you hurt someone.
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2:26 pm
Now your acting like exbrony. I thought you said that that was bad. Whatever. Prayer works for me, I (and my family) prayed about something REALLY important and guess what? It happened the next day. Imaginary? I don’t think so.
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4:26 pm
Until I see that anything that you have said is even slightly true, I will keep going to church on sundays and praying with the rest of them.
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5:45 pm
Adam says he’s a doctor and shows no proof, you say prayer works and you have no proof. You can say anything and get away with it online.
As far as ‘seeing’, how about you open your eyes for once. God said slavery was a-ok and rape isn’t a crime if the victim is a female virgin and that women are property. Do some research for once in your life and you’ll see how f.ucked up religion is.
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6:03 pm
I can say anything on the inernet I want, true, but so can you. That logic goes both ways. As for your statement about God and slavery, he was speaking of bond servants. When somebody had a debt they could not pay, they could work it off. You are not changing my (or anyone’s) stance on Christianity you are only proving every beleif I have about liberals. You make remarks about exbrony, yet you are just like him when you are not talking to him. The only one here who is messed up right now is you. That is not all you have proved to me. I have no idea where you got that statement about rape, not the Bible that’s for sure. The Bible says fools will say negative things about God’s word and now I know that God is very right because you proved it to me yourself. Enjoy your life and I will enjoy mine.
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6:04 pm
This argument is over.
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6:05 pm
Have a good day then, L.N. I’m sure I will so you have nothing to worry about.
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6:13 pm
I wonder why this argument fell flat for me? I think it was because it was just so classic: A real Christian V.S. two angry athiests who curse a lot. When you curse you loose (because you look like you have nothing smarter to say than explatives). (Most of the time, and this was one of them.)
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7:47 pm
except I was the only one with any real talking points.
God is a father, not a caretaker.
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8:08 pm
A great point and an excellent closing comment.
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8:45 pm
“I can say anything on the inernet I want, true, but so can you. That logic goes both ways.”
I’m not the one making claims that prayer works.
“As for your statement about God and slavery, he was speaking of bond servants. When somebody had a debt they could not pay, they could work it off.”
Which is EXACTLY why you can buy someone for a couple bucks, right? That’s not a debt, that’s flat-out f.ucking owning someone.
“You are not changing my (or anyone’s) stance on Christianity you are only proving every beleif I have about liberals.”
That liberals think that people who believe in god shouldn’t include it in politics considering they use their religion as the basis for their political platforms and want to enforce their beliefs onto the populace as a whole, regardless of what those people think?
“You make remarks about exbrony, yet you are just like him when you are not talking to him.”
How? I call out ALL Christians who insist that their views are right, all others are wrong, and that everyone should live by their rules. The Social Justice Pony just attacks people regardless, he’ll pal around with people who want to kill homosexuals, but once they disappear and someone like you shows up, if there hasn’t been any argument, he’ll stir one up.
“I have no idea where you got that statement about rape, not the Bible that’s for sure.”
Apparently you never read the bible if you don’t know where I got it from.
“The Bible says fools will say negative things about God’s word and now I know that God is very right because you proved it to me yourself.”
Any evil bastard who wants to control others will say that.
And Abe? Is that SERIOUSLY the best you can do? ‘You lose because I said you lose, HA!’ I lost because I swear? What are you, twelve?
“A great point and an excellent closing comment.”
No, it’s NOT. Apricot has had the weakest points and the most detrimental to your arguments.
“God is a father, not a caretaker.”
Let’s say you’re a father and you see your two kids fighting. What do you do? What happens when one of them pulls out a knife to the other, what would you do? What happens when one of them decides that they’re right and that because they’re right, they can do whatever they want to the other child and they start harassing them about it, what do you do?
If your answer is ‘let them be’, then you’re a pretty s.hitty father and comparing yourself to God in that case.
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4:26 pm
Who are you talikng to? The air? This argument is over and no one is listening anymore.
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5:00 pm
For exbrony.
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6:14 pm
you are thinking too interpersonal, L.N.
God isn’t going to step in and stop a rape from happening. and to stop rape altogether will be silly because we would have no power to prevent it, it was all God’s doing. He wants us to fix our problems. all he will do is show us the path we have to figure out where it twists.
we know rape is wrong, why don’t we fix it? I think it would piss God off if we relied on him to fix everything for us.
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6:16 pm
I’ve been following this conversation and I agree with the Christian side of the argument. It is so typical to get angry rants from athiests against Christianity.
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9:11 pm
Thank you Metalcore, for proving how cowardly Christians really are. You don’t want to continue the argument because you know for a fact that all you can do is rely on faith, the filmiest of all excuses.
And Apricot? The problem with that is that it still means God is EVIL if he’s unwilling to help when he’s certainly capable. Not only that, but there’s a list of other problems that God has yet to answer for: disease, births that result in failures, the number of religions that exist on this planet, people using his name to get what they want and so much more. Not only that, but where the hell did the claim that Christians were right even come from? What if Jesus WASN’T the savior and he was just a bum on the street with a busted eye and could do street magic that got him notoriety and the Jewish people were right? You’re hailing Jesus as someone who could be considered God’s equal, that believing in Jesus and his words is what gets you into Heaven. You could argue that Jesus is still saying what God wants even in the Old Testament, except the problem is that there’s still a vast difference between the two, and it’s pretty damn insulting to the Creator of All Things for there to be a rumor about him having a son around.
So, not only is God evil, but there’s also no guarantee that Christians are right in the first damn place. After all, there were plenty of religions before, and there’s plenty of religions after Christianity came about. You’re telling me that that fact alone doesn’t give some doubt to the idea that out of ALL of the religions on this planet, Christianity is the only one with the right answer (and even then, it also depends on the interpretation of the bible and what parts they felt the need to erase because of inconvenience)?
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6:33 pm
No. Actually I’m bored.
I’m bored of arguing over the same question (basically, your question was why does God let some things happen?)that has been answered 100s of times. You kept pushing the same point, (which never made sense to me anyway) 4pr1c0t them answered your question, which he/she did very well. Since your question has been answered MULTIPLE TIMES and you still don’t get it, what’sz the point of still arguing? You are not going to make me beleive what YOU say, and you appear to be unwilling to beleive what I say. Your comments have, over the length of the discussion, grown weirder and less coherent to boot.
You have proved to me that liberals are liars because they say tolerate yet you can beleive in ANY religion EXCEPT Christianity without getting hate for it.
God says sometime it is better to leave a fool to his folly then argue on. Get the point? Wait a minute I shouldn’t even ask that because…I know that you don’t and at this rate probably never will.
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7:38 pm
Jesus Christ! When did 4pricot swallow the Kool Aid? I had always figured that he/she was something of an independent mind…
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9:04 pm
and I never once stated that Christianity was the only right answer.
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9:08 pm
Well, you certainly seem to be asserting the existence of the god of the Abrahamic faiths and utterly absolving it of any responsibility for its creations.
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9:45 pm
unfortunately, Exbrony, I am forever shackled to Christianity. I may be loyal to my faith, but that does not mean I lack independent thought.
Someone taught me an interpretation of Christianity that makes sense. I’m not the best for explaining it, I hold too deep a resentment towards humanity and it skews my perception.
for all I care, we can go ahead and destroy ourselves.
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10:36 pm
“I’m bored of arguing over the same question (basically, your question was why does God let some things happen?)that has been answered 100s of times.”
Answering with “Because” is NOT a legitimate answer, it’s just plain lazy.
“You kept pushing the same point, (which never made sense to me anyway) 4pr1c0t them answered your question, which he/she did very well.”
No, Apricot made Christianity even worse. If a basic human being would intervene upon a crime being committed why the hell wouldn’t the creator of humanity do it?
“Since your question has been answered MULTIPLE TIMES and you still don’t get it, what’sz the point of still arguing?”
Hopefully you’ll realize one day just how insane your ‘answer’ really is.
“You are not going to make me beleive what YOU say, and you appear to be unwilling to beleive what I say. Your comments have, over the length of the discussion, grown weirder and less coherent to boot.”
That tends to happen to the insane when you realize just how wrong you are.
“You have proved to me that liberals are liars because they say tolerate yet you can beleive in ANY religion EXCEPT Christianity without getting hate for it.”
You said you don’t want to push your religions onto others and yet you favor laws that would do just that. To tolerate means to let it exist, NOT to let it do whatever it wants. YOU seem to think that wanting to keep EVERY religion in check is somehow a lie.
“God says sometime it is better to leave a fool to his folly then argue on.”
God says if a woman is raped and she’s a virgin, you pay her dad 50 silver and you marry her, and if you wear clothing made of different types of material, that you should be killed. Tell me, do you have a job you do on Sundays, or do you do ANY kind of work on Sundays? God commands that you be killed for doing that as well.
NOW who’s the fool?
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10:36 pm
I’m still bored. I come to Christwire to have fun. All the articles have either been about homicide, cats, or the new year (which was a true article for firsts, which is extra boring because no one comes here for great, accurate articles).
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10:50 pm
4pricot says: “I am forever shackled to Christianity. I may be loyal to my faith, but that does not mean I lack independent thought.”
You’re not shackled to anything. If Christianity ever comes to seem too absurd or abhorrent for you you are always free to leave.
And you don’t have to feel alone; the non-religious in the US are making a concerted effort to build communities online and IRL. I can point you to some places if you like.
LN, now you know what it’s like for me when I try to explain things to you. Frustrating, isn’t it?
MentalBore, do you think women who have been raped should be forced to marry their rapists?
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11:59 pm
Pony, do remember that up until Metalcore and Abe showed up, you were basically rooting for their side. You were doing your damned best to try to disprove everything that every other commenter here had said against Cultwire.
And Metalcore? You’ve still yet to ACTUALLY answer just why God gets away with being a complete bastard. “Oh, we don’t know his plans” is what you say, and yet you STILL claim to know what he has planned whenever it’s convenient for you. When you make up the rules as you go along, eventually you’re going to trip over yourself, and guess how many times that happens with the bible.
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1:07 am
LN says: “until Metalcore and Abe showed up, you were basically rooting for their side.”
Uh… what? When did I ever say that homosexuals deserve to be tortured for all eternity? That is a monstrous, pernicious belief that I have never espoused and that I have repeatedly denounced.
I have never been a young-earth creationist. That is patently absurd.
And need I remind you that I have pointed out to you many times that there is zero contemporary historical evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed as a man, let alone a god?
Why don’t you ask Abe and MentalBore about that? My guess is that they will parrot the dishonest apologist’s line that there is more evidence for Jesus’s existence than there is for Julius Caesar’s.
MentalBore is opposed to gun control, no matter how many children get massacred. As you well know, I am in favour of gun control.
Don’t confuse my criticism of your errors and sloppy thinking with support of what you perceive to be “the other side”.
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2:21 am
You seem awfully keen to whip out bible quotes yourself and help Cultwire out whenever someone tries to knock them down a peg, how the hell can you sit there and say ‘I’m not with them’ when you don’t bat an eye to someone saying that gay people should be hunted as a sport. You want to call yourself a feminist and you harp on anyone who says anything even remotely negative, even out of context, about women, and yet Cultwire can and WILL call women worthless or only good for cooking or bad drivers or any other stereotype and you’ll sit there with your mouth shut. Don’t act like you’re some f.ucking crusader for truth or justice, you’re an asshole who wants to argues with others just because you have nothing else to do.
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5:38 am
LN, you know that I am one of very few people here who have repeatedly taken the likes of Figs and Billy Bob to task for their apparent misogyny. They don’t listen, and I have decided never to read or comment on any of their stories ever again.
What do you have to say about MentalBore and Abrahmsq fapping themselves at the prospect of Ellen DeGeneres being roasted alive for the heinous crime of licking Portia de Rossi’s ladyparts?
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4:22 pm
That is just plain repulsive. THAT is socially unacceptable to say in public…GROSS!!!
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4:23 pm
I don’t care what you think. It is unsanitary. It is creepy. The Bible says it’s wrong to boot. It’s gross on every level no matter how you look at it.
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4:24 pm
Totally offensive and repulsive.
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4:25 pm
I hope she enjoys her AIDs.
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5:21 pm
I would like to put on the record that anyone who is spelunking Portia de Rossi’s fish cave should be applauded.
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6:26 pm
Hey L.N., check this out.
If exbrony thinks that gay marriage is fine, then why did he write this?
http://christwire.org/2012/07/farmville-attacks-christianity-with-dinosaurs-and-homogay-animal-sex-acts/
It just seemed ever so slightly hypocritical.
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6:57 pm
Yeah, that’s REAL awkward. He said he has always ans always will suppor homosexuality. I wonder what he has to say about AIDs…
P.S. Erich, at least exbrony used the proper terms for what he was talking about. Spelunking? You just made it worse. It is unsanitary and you know I’m right.
If we didn’t have people who are gays, the woiuld not have half as much AIDs. (rhyme intended)
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8:27 pm
Why do I find this argument weird? I have no idea.
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1:20 am
You probably find it weird, Average User, because the Pony is saying how he supports homosexuals and finds the attitude of Metalcore and Abe horrible, and yet he himself is a gigantic hypocrite. If Cultwire says it, he has no problem but if someone who doesn’t write for Cultwire says it? All of a sudden he’s against them! At least Metalcore and Abe are honest, even IF they’re assholes if they believe that certain people shouldn’t have equal rights just because an ancient book says so.
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4:25 pm
It’s always 10x better to be honest.
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6:00 pm
It’s always good to be honest. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean is appropriate to cuss them out. That is never appropriate and never will be. It is a sign that you have no respect for other’s views whether they are the dominant ones or not.
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1:21 am
you make the assumption that I do not enjoy being shackled.
I have no desire to change my faith.
and the only reason I assert it is because I feel so strongly about it and I tend to take attacks on it to a personal level.
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4:26 pm
Yeah like apricot say, we take attacks on a personal level.
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1:37 am
Metalcore Fan is 14-16 and probably male.
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4:30 pm
Your guess at my age was very close (if not exactly right) and I am a boy.
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5:04 pm
my observational skills border on the uncanny
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5:40 pm
I can tell.
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10:25 pm
You just spout off untruths in your angry ignorance of God’s word. Talk about stupid.
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2:41 am
What did I say that was untrue?
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2:27 pm
Lulz, EVERYTHING,duh.
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7:39 pm
You cannot provide a single example. You’re so thoroughly dishonest that you’re not even aware that you are.
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10:38 pm
…And you wonder why we don’t get along.
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10:42 pm
Exbrony says Christianity is a mosh of various religions. That’s HIS opinion. That’s nice.
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11:08 pm
“…And you wonder why we don’t get along.”
Well, it doesn’t help that you unfairly accuse me of lying and then get shirty when I point out that you are making a dishonest accusation.
Abrahm, It’s not just my opinion. It’s essentially accepted by pretty much anyone who has studied Near-Eastern history or comparative religion — yes, even Christian scholars.
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8:28 pm
I read exbrony’s Christwire article. He seems pretty two sided.
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3:11 pm
If ignorance is bliss, then you are in a constant state of euphoria.
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2:40 am
You’re projecting like an IMAX cinema, kiddo.
Do you have any idea how much of your religion was stolen from Sumerian/Babylonian religion, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and the cults of pagan gods like Mithra and Osiris?
Of course not, hence your ignorant bliss.
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3:56 pm
You do not like Christians of any kind. You got on abrahmsq’s case for liking John MacArthur. You don’t pastors of ANY kind whether they are more liberal minded or mor conservative. You think that you know everthing about everything and that proves that you know very little about very little (including Christianity) You think that you are some sort of free-thinking genius who thinks he has the right to call all the shots. Talk about projecting like an imax cinema. You’re projecting a full imax 3D image of yourself and it’s not pretty.
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6:07 pm
Since Christianity came before Sumerian/Babylonian religion, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and the cults of pagan gods like Mithra and Osiris, this is another magnificent display if exbrony’s foolishness.
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8:54 pm
Except the Pony has got you pegged, Abe. When did BCE come before CE? Not only that, but the spread of Christianity took quite a bit of time and affected places that hadn’t heard about Jesus yet, nor did they really care. Hell, look at the holidays that many Christians celebrate: the 25th of December? Christians call it Christmas, while the Romans would call it a couple days after Saturnalia.
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5:00 pm
For exbrony.
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7:54 pm
MentalBore, most of my family, friends and colleagues are Christians of one kind or another, so once again what you’re say is — surprise! — entirely untrue.
Abrahmsq, were you away from home school the day your mommy taught ancient history?
Sumerian religion — earlier than 2100BC. Provided the myth of Noah’s flood and the serpent/fruit thing for the Garden of Eden story.
Buddhism — 6th century BC. Buddhist missionaries were all over the Middle East and the Simon-Peter stories are blatant rip-offs of the Buddhist Sari-Putra stories.
Zoroastrianism — before the 6th century BC. Contributed, among other things, the idea of an evil god (Ahriman/Satan) opposed to a good one.
Osiris — ancient Egyptian god. Followers ate bread and drank beer or wine as his body and blood. Sound familiar?
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8:01 pm
Christianity started at day 1. Can you beat that? The old testament is like the 1st phase and the new testament is the 2nd.
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8:03 pm
Strike 2.
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8:31 pm
“Christianity started at day 1.”
Your wilful ignorance is pathetic.
IIt is a mish-mash cobbled together from older religions. Simple as that.
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10:41 pm
Metalcore Fan was homeschooled. Since when was I? You confuse the two of us.
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11:03 pm
Abrahm, Sorry, my mistake.
Do you have a response to my examples of pagan religion influencing Christian mythology?
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8:29 pm
I don’t think exbrony likes any religion. Am I right @exbrony?
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8:25 pm
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4:25 pm
Go ahead and pray for LN then, see how well it works. It’s disrespectful to waste Jesus’ time, however.
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4:47 pm
So why do you call yourself a Christian then if you don’t care about Jesus? Seems to be highly disrespectful to him, don’t ya think?
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2:02 pm
Read between the lines, LN. I’m calling MentalBore a false Christian for wanting to waste Jesus’ time.
This is the last time I explain something to you that anyone with a 2nd grade reading comprehension could easily process.
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10:12 pm
Someone who’s as stupid as you shouldn’t be telling others to read anything.
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4:17 pm
Erich, if you are a good Christian you know that God tell to pray for people no matter how lost they appear to be. Praying for someone’s salvation IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A WASTSE OF JESUS’ TIME. Read your Bible and try to find a verse supporting your flimsy sentiment against L.N.
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6:10 pm
Since I know Metalcore Fan personally, I know that he seems to be more of a Christian then you do in his life AND his comments.
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11:39 pm
You do not know Jesus. Jesus has patience with everyone.
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2:24 am
Except for all the people he sends to hell to be burned alive for all eternity. You worship a torturer.
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3:42 pm
God warns us about skeptical fools. Lulz!
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7:57 pm
“whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire”
Matthew 5:22
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8:24 pm
You say it yourself. It means calling someone a fool when they are not. You are.
13.
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5:19 pm
Oh look. LN is still here. Goodie. I wonder if dear Claire is still here.
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6:31 pm
Wow, Christwire posted an article saying that you were dead. I’ve never seen a comment posted by a zombie, so this is a first for me.
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8:06 pm
What the hell happened to Claire, anyway? I’ve seen her comments on articles from last year.
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9:42 pm
Who was Claire? It seems like there was tons of people commenting last year and in early 2012, but now there’s only like 9 or 10 people commenting on each article.
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1:25 am
If you say Claire’s name three times out loud she shall appear again…
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1:50 am
Seriously. Where did everybody go?
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1:51 am
“Who was Claire?”
She was a commenter here that the site felt the need to perma-banned because they got tired of her being right damn near all the time. They’re a bunch of f.ucking children so they also erased all of her comments, or at least most (apparently they don’t have a mass delete button, they have to select each post and then click ‘hide’ or ‘delete’).
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1:59 am
Google or Bing “Stephenson Billings Puerto Rico” and he shall appear!
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6:14 pm
I looked at some older article and she’s still there…
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7:50 pm
I’m surprised one of you fools actually called her by name for once.
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6:24 am
Are you acting or ARE YOU ACTUSLLY THIS F*KING STUPID I HAVE SEEN YOUTUBE FLAME WARS BUT YOU I WONDER IF YOU ARE JUAT ACTUALLY THIS STUPID I STILL WONDER IFMGOD EXISTS I AM NOT ATHIEST BECAUSE NOTHING LIKE YOU CAN BE THIS STUPID AND ALIVE AND NOT BE DEAD WITHOUT MAGIC
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2:03 pm
???
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8:22 pm
Your 2nd Korn video. When you bother me, you get 20.
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5:21 pm
Did a human write this or did a cat walk across a keyboard?
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6:15 pm
I’m angry I just broke up with someone get it
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9:45 pm
Wow that’s a good way to deal with breaking up, go comment like crazy on Christwire. I’ll have to remember this technique for dealing with stress.
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11:22 pm
Wow, just because of the end of the world didn’t happened, wich by the way it has NOTHING to do with your religion, now you come up with this little story, WOW you are pitiful.
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3:02 pm
Prayer had nothing to do with… The world was never going to end on 21/12/12… Get your head out of your a$$ and just get over it… It was stupid superstition
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10:23 pm
Christwire says THE WORLD WILL END ON 12/21/12. Come 12/21/12, nothing happens, so they say they prevented it…What a joke.
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10:44 am
Thats how they usually pull this crap… They did the same thing during the last predicted “end of the world”
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Christwire to accept a loss… No matter how unbelievably wrong they are
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3:11 pm
Tell me about it.
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2:25 am
Yuop, that’s how Christianity works all right.
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3:07 pm
Youp? A real word? Whatever.
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9:22 pm
How about you focus less on typos and more on the gaping holes in your own repugnant, half-baked theology.
Explain to me why we should praise your god for inventing dozens of different kinds of cancers.
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3:10 pm
When the fall happend all things were corrupted. Heres a crazy Australian guy who knows nothing about God OR the Bible. LOL! ???
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11:10 pm
“When the fall happend all things were corrupted”
Is there any evidence that this is true? No?
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4:11 pm
I see plenty od corruption.
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12:36 am
GET THEE BEHIND ME, CHILD MOLESTER!
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4:12 pm
Commenter fail. Assumption fail.
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6:15 am
See this is why guns exist when they are there praying mow them down like that scene in MW2 that had pointless controversy
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5:23 pm
This is very offensive. I am reporting your threats to the police.
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5:37 pm
HOW AREMYOUMSTILL ALIVE WE THOUGHT YOU DEAD WHHHY I EVEN THREW A CELEBRATION
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8:05 pm
Hahaha I was about to write the exact same thing.
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6:15 pm
That is kinda creepy when you get the point.
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6:21 am
Those people in that picture look like forsaken from world of warcraft
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8:25 am
Those people in the photo happen to be parishioners – very sensitive parishioners. I’m going to tell them you said that.
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2:52 pm
Good can you tell them they look like the children of the corn
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4:22 pm
Since that picture was edited to look like that on a computer, I don’t really care about their feelings about the image. Christwire has a lot of hilarious *fake* images. The picture in this article however, looks pretty good. Someone really took the time to put a little glow in the pastors’ eyes. Totally hilarious. It would take me a long time to duplicate that effect in one of my own pictures.
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6:39 pm
Yeah, I just looked up the children of the corn and guess what? They do look similar. Tell em’ they look like the children of the corn. TAKE THAT!
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3:44 pm
I hope it hurts their pride. Do it for the lulz.
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12:38 am
Prayer is the most powerful weapon we have against evil.
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12:44 am
True, but this article is just a really dumb excuse for a really dumb mistake. Prayer works, but the 12/21/12 apocalypse myth required no prayer to prevent. Any end of the world date is untrue. Remember Harold Camping? That took no prayer to prevent, it was just some crazy old guy who made up a date from his fertile imagination.
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10:35 am
By evil, do you mean anyone who’s not a right-wing white heterosexual male?
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8:27 pm
I don’t know what he meant.
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8:00 pm
Then why did you say what he said was true.
Hi CI! Good to see you again!
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8:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbLqIaKnoh4
Yep, I did it again.
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8:03 pm
Strike 1.
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8:26 pm
16.
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15.
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8:27 pm
17. 3 to go.
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8:27 pm
18. 2 left…maybe 3 if you want more.
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8:28 pm
19. Get ready for the gran finale…
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8:29 pm
20. There!
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8:31 pm
Wow. That IS a LOT of KoRn!!!
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8:29 pm
21. I noticed that one failed to post so here it goes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbLqIaKnoh4
TAKE THAT!!!
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1:27 am
Ignorance is the one true evil
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3:46 pm
Eunice’s description says ‘I enjoy the Facebook’ THE Facebook?…Facepalm.
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8:11 pm
What’s wrong with enjoying the Facebooks? Even I have an account!
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8:20 pm
I know, but calling it THE Facebook? Lulz, you get the point.
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8:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbLqIaKnoh4
Your first Korn video!!! Expect about 20 more or so.
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8:27 pm
Mentalbore, how can you call yourself a Christian and listen to these secular bands? Rock psalms are all that you should be listening to.
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8:32 pm
Lulz. Rock psalms? Really? This is Nu-Metal. Here are some points for you:
Understand that there are people that listen to Christian metal
Get into Christian metal; such as Slechtvalk, Renascent, Mortification, Hilastherion, Crimson Thorn, Crimson Moonlight, Immortal Souls, Horde, Divine Symphony, Tortured Conscience, Vaakevandring,Frost Like Ashes, Pantokrator, Frosthardr, Antestor, Divinefire, Deuteronomium and Living Sacrifice. However, feel free to see whether stuff works — despite the fact that some say that metal is spawned by Satan himself, and that Christian metal is often considered an insult to secular metal. Your call.
Understand that Christian metal may enable you to listen to the driving beats of hard rock and metal without the lyrics promoting bad stuff. Keep this in mind – cutting the bad lyrics is good for your development as clean speech for a Christian and an alternative to anti-God/religious metal.
Get into the metal musicians that have become actual Christians. Nicko Mcbrain is a good example. (Beware: There are fakes out there, who don’t exactly follow through in reality/real life with their reported conversions.)
Understand that these are people that are into secular metal, but are still Christians.
It’s okay to be a Christian and a Metalhead. It’s not what goes in (i.e. lyrics promoting stuff that makes you think, harmful to your Christian development) that matters, it’s what comes out (i.e. your actions, words etc.). As listening to music like this may harm your christian development, so it can make you think, elaborating non religious thoughts. Just remember that your faith is more important than your music (life?).
Remember that you like it for the beats, solos, drums, whatever. Use your judgment; if a song is changing your viewpoint and leading you from the Lord- get rid of it.
Tips
•Some Slayer and Exodus songs should be avoided. But research those songs, before deeming them anti-christian. “The number of the beast” by Iron Maiden is not one of these.
•Day of Fire and Decyfer Down are two great Christian Metal bands with really great lyrics. 12 Stones is also a good choice.
•There are some bands, for example Killswitch Engage, P.O.D., and Flyleaf that have Christian members and occasionally Christian lyrics. These are a good bridge for the gap between secular pop rock and Christian music
•If you listen to bands with members who are not Christians, don’t worry about it. Christians are allowed to enjoy things done by non-Christians.
•Sometimes, at concerts for example, bands can be offensive to Christians and other religions. If you want to go to a concert, check out the other bands first and if they offend you, just avoid the concert.
•Remember to always respect other people’s choice in music, even if you don’t like it, because everyone is entitled to there own form of self expression.
•Sometimes, people who don’t get metal or Christianity try to say, for example: “Oh, rave is way harder than that crap.” Don’t react – calmly explain that your music is as valid as theirs. Do not subscribe to the mainstream stereotype of a metalhead, who likes to cut things and enjoys watching things burn in their bedroom. The only people who are like that have serious psychological problems.
•Music is about perception, remember that! If a lyric says “Your God is dead!’ well, which God do you want them to be talking about? Shiva? Satan? You change the meaning to suit your needs. Remember, you listen to music for yourself, not others. For example:
•If you are easily offended, you might want to avoid listening to Black Metal because most Black Metal lyrics are based on Satanism and Paganism. But just remember, you can still listen without having to change your religion. Metal isn’t about being a Satanist, it’s about enjoying the bizarre things in life.
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8:32 pm
MentalBore is begging for the banhammer by spamming the same video over and over.
I’d trade him for Harley Farley any day.
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8:34 pm
I’m really good at that. Tell me when you have sorted out your inbox.
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8:35 pm
HEY!!! HYPOCRITE!!! YOU PROFESS TO LIKE KILLSWITCH ENGAGE!!! Lulz.
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11:20 pm
“the mainstream stereotype of a metalhead, who likes to cut things and enjoys watching things burn in their bedroom. ”
LOLWUT? Since when is that a mainstream stereotype?
FYI, since you’re throwing around more false allegations and Erich isn’t here to defend himself… Erich said he saw Killswitch Engage “BC” — before he became a Christian.
I am sure that Erich will accept your apology for unfairly calling him a hypocrite. He is a good Christian like that.
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11:23 pm
John F. MacArthur says that “Christian” metal is “trash music” that “trivialises the profound” and drags down the gospels.
http://www.jcsm.org/StudyCenter/john_macarthur/godmusic.htm
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11:58 pm
Thank you ex, I indeed am a great Christian and I’ll be sure to accept Mentalchore’s superficial apology whenever he’s moved to ask for it.
And I apologize to you ex, for having to take the time to explain my posts to him. You are a saint!
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12:06 am
Erich, isn’t humility a quality that Christians should have? Why have you never demonstrated this?
And Metalcore, the Pony’s right (imagine that, inject some common sense into him and he’s right for a change!), since when is that the ‘mainstream’ version of what metalheads are?
“(i.e. lyrics promoting stuff that makes you think, harmful to your Christian development)”
So did you just admit that Christianity is basically a way to prevent people for thinking for themselves?
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12:46 am
Oh, Eric, I require no apology from you! If anything I should be apologising to you for presuming to speak on your behalf.
Had I known that you would be back so soon I would have left it to you.
It’s just that MentalBore throws around so many false allegations. I couldn’t stand by and let him unfairly label your good self a hypocrite.
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12:49 am
LN, you’re not doing yourself any favours by being so mean to Erich.
But I have to dips me lid:
“So did you just admit that Christianity is basically a way to prevent people for thinking for themselves?”
Pow! That came right out of the middle of the bat!
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4:09 pm
Erich said in BC. That is not a very clear message at all.
Do not subscribe to the mainstream stereotype of a metalhead, who likes to cut things and enjoys watching things burn in their bedroom. (it’s saying that that is what people will think about you if you like metal) The only people who are like that have serious psychological problems. (see? it answered that)
I’m sorry if I misunderstood Erich’s post, but it was not made very clear at all.
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4:12 pm
Why do ou call me a “fundie” exbrony? If I like metal, then I am not a perfect “fundie” at all. John MacArthur doesn’t like metal, I guess that’s his call, not mine. The Bible never says NO METAl, it DOES reference to using stringed instruments, though.
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8:32 pm
Wow. That IS a LOT of KoRn!!!
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9:57 pm
Since when did the Annihilator song “Maximum Satan” teach anyone to “think”?
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10:09 pm
Exbrony an L.N. you say that you are the “free-thinkers” why do I get the feeling that you are the only ones in chains?
BTW
L.N. must stand for “Little Meanie. I think little is appropriate because if he keeps acting like this (picking fights with people, acting like he’s the smart guy, pretending he is in someway telling people about their own religion.(that they obviously know more about.) If you don’t like it then why do you even care?) I cannot see him ever amounting to much.) Come on! If that is his religion of choice don’t bother him. Why are you so intolerant? I don’t understand these kind of people. It makes me sad just how antagonistic some people can be. You are truly making a difference when you can get along, even if one guy beleives in hell and you do not. Let’s act like adults here. I’ve been watching this whole argument and I couldn’t stand watching it without sayign something, so I started commenting. You shouldn’t have needed me to see this, but you did. How can we be so blind to our own personal hostility? It’s like poison it corrupts everything and just makes it all worse for everyone on both sides. If YOU want to look good, try to BE good. Do your best. If you wouldn’t say it to his face them don’t say it at all. A simple rule of civility. How about we all try to do our very best?
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12:29 am
“L.N. must stand for “Little Meanie.”
In what universe does meanie start with the letter n?
“I think little is appropriate because if he keeps acting like this (picking fights with people, acting like he’s the smart guy, pretending he is in someway telling people about their own religion.(that they obviously know more about.) If you don’t like it then why do you even care?)”
Because these same people are also the ones who are deciding to insert their religion into my life through laws and other means. If you want to tell other people that they can’t do something because your religion says not to, I can tell you to stuff it.
“Come on! If that is his religion of choice don’t bother him. Why are you so intolerant?”
Again, because this isn’t a matter of belief or choice anymore, this is a matter of taking a religion that has done so much more harm than good and continue to use it to produce more harm and force more people to bend to it’s will or else punish them. It’s also a damn fact that people will come up with special exceptions for them all the time. Many Christians believe that they’re immune to the punishments listed in the bible just because ‘those rules are primitive’ when they’ll pull out something several passages later to complain about how someone is acting then.
“How about we all try to do our very best?”
Tell me that again when you have people who are wanting to force their religion down your throat as law. So much misinformation and all of it from religion because they’re too damn afraid to do research and think for themselves. They’re so afraid of what happens after death that they want to shackle everyone to a bunch of stupid rules and force themselves into the lives of other people. A Christian who does not is not one I mind, and a Christian who would pass laws that give people equal rights even when their religion dictates that some people are lesser than others deserves even more respect, but far too often you have people who not only think everyone should live by their rules, but should be punished if they don’t. THAT I have a problem with. Christians who decide their rules don’t apply to them? THAT I have a problem with. People who decide that they can erase whatever the f.uck they want to from their ancient rules and only apply them in certain situations? THAT I have a problem with. If you’re going to turn a blind eye to all the evils that religion has caused, Christianity in particular here in America, then you have no right to talk to me about s.hit like ‘do our very best’. You don’t get to just act like we have a clean slate and still demand others follow your insane rules that you make up as you go along. You can’t just sit there and say ‘oh, Christians are good people and it’s a good religion’ when there’s so much insanity to be found in it’s past. Because who the hell are you to say that that stuff doesn’t matter anymore when it still exists today?
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3:34 pm
Your religion isn’t any better. Beleiving in nothing is the religion of nothing. Every law that has come from Christianity, like the Constituition of America is 10x better than ANY athiest law I’ve seen so far. The religion of nothing makes nothing good.
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3:42 pm
You say YOUR insane rules.
Who said they were mine? Not me.
Sorry I wasn’t thinking of m and n…Oops.
I have no idea where Christianity promotes inequality. As I see it, they have better standards than most.
Stupid rules.
Thalt shalt not kill, lie or steal. Yeah, stupid rules.
You seem obsessed with the old testament, most of which is not used after Christ died on the cross.
Why did you say they were MY rules anyway?
False assumptions, again.
Okay, you read that and then you went and did they opposite. That tells me a lot about YOU.
L.N. Little Nutcase. There! I used an L
AND an N.
You don’t want to be civil so why would ANYBODY want to talk to you? When you make an angry rant people ignore it.
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4:17 pm
L.N. I’m not going to argue with you so. I will just ask several questions.
Do you support homeschooling and gay marriage? Those are two minorities.
Take arandom guess off the top of your mind. What percent of Americans are Gay or Lesbian. DO NOT LOOK IT UP!!! Try to do your best guess.
I do not and will not fight about anything, If you disagree, I will not bother you.
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10:10 pm
Wow, very inspiring.
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7:56 pm
So basically you made up some story about how the world was going to end, and then when it didn’t happen, you made an excuse about prayer saving us all.
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8:26 pm
Lulz, that’s about right.
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10:11 pm
Onceuponatime, you’re somewhat correct. The world did not come to a crashing horrible end. Let’s thank the Dear Lord for that. But I also know that I was drenched in the perspiration of hell fire and near damnation. It was a close call. Prayer has saved us once again. Now go on, you can pick up your sin inspired lifestyle just where you left off.
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10:47 pm
When your stuck in hole, you need to stop digging. In other words: shut up. You’re making excuses for your obvious mistake.
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2:41 pm
You spelled universe wrong in the title.
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4:27 pm
Eunice spelled it wrong to bring attention to herself like she saved the world. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZ!!!
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2:01 am
LOOK ADMIT IT SINCE THE WORLD DID NOT EMD YOUR LIVES ARE NOWMNOTHING
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4:56 pm
Why do you type in all-caps with terrible spelling? 4 the lulz?
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12:35 am
Excellent. We should organize a world wide prayer circle for God to smite these child-sex-grooming bronies: http://pikachuxash.tumblr.com/
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1:03 am
I just might have to follow a new Tumblr
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4:23 pm
Lulz.
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