Arrogant British Credit Downgraded
The British are crying their tears today, as America was forced to downgrade their credit rankings. For far too long the British have been living off our coattails, begging for alms ever since we saved them from being conquered during World War II. For all of America’s sacrifice, the British have given us relatively nothing but grief and arrogance.
Hopefully the British will learn their lesson and start being more respectful: they need to recognize our economy as superior, stop using the Euro and switch back to making the dollar their main currency, then maybe they can save their economy.
If the British continue to use the Euro and stand against the American dollar, I don’t see us having much choice but to slam their credit rating down to “Third World Country” status.
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Author: Tiernan Kincaid
4:53 pm
Wow first comment, Any who, we didn’t help the British in WWII, If it wasn’t for Winston Churchill, then the Nazi Party could have made it over to america. So stop giving this crap over to us.
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5:14 pm
I agree that America needs to stop suggesting that they are the sole reason that the allied forces in World War II. However I hate to admit it but the US were of some help, the supplied fresh troops and resources that helped the British. We and the other allied forces had been locked in a brutal battle for a while before America got involved, therefore well rested troops and needed resources was a plus. The key word in it all however is HELP, the US were a help in WWII nothing more nothing less. They were overly more concerned with their own personal vendetta against Japan, so although they offered some support against the Germans they were more focused on Japan.
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7:46 pm
They were a help not a savior.
Good point.
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8:34 pm
” the US were a help in WWII nothing more nothing less.”
Laughing out loud! Because you guys totally had Hitler on his knees after Dunkirk. You totes could have managed Normandy on your own. *eyeroll*
“their own personal vendetta against Japan,”
It wasn’t personal for all the thousands of British, Australian, Kiwi and colonial soldiers, killed, captured, enslaved, starved and tortured by the Japanese in Malaya, Burma, New Guinea and other parts of Asia?
The Japanese were intent on annexing half you empire, old bean.
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8:51 pm
Did I say we could do it on our own? No I did not, I admitted that America were a help. What I said was that America were not the sole reason WWII was won as Adam seems to admit.
I also did not say America went against Japan alone, I know that this is not true. What I meant was it appeared that America was more concerned with fighting Japan, perhaps personal vendetta wasn’t the right phrasing but all it meant was much of their effort (whilst still aiding the allied forces) appeared to be against Japan.
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8:56 pm
Exbrony just likes to grill people. He has his little opinion and just knows so much more.
fuc.king annoying.
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8:58 pm
“America were not the sole reason WWII was won”
Obviously not. The Soviets deserve plenty of credit for that.
But you can’t underestimate the role that the Americans played in Europe.
Of course, the Americans were perfectly happy to let Hitler overrun Europe. If Tojo hadn’t gone after Pearl Harbor you would all be speaking German now.
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9:09 pm
Exbrony
“But you can’t underestimate the role that the Americans played in Europe.
Of course, the Americans were perfectly happy to let Hitler overrun Europe. If Tojo hadn’t gone after Pearl Harbor you would all be speaking German now.”
You clearly underestimate the role that the other allied forces and overestimate America’s involvement if you think that Europe would have fallen under Hitler’s control. WWII may have been longer and it is probable that the death count would be higher without the aid of the US but it would not have necessarily been lost.
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9:19 pm
Metalcore Fan
I am well aware of exbrony’s enjoyment of grilling people on this site, exbrony also happens to be one of the few people on the site you can get a decent discussion from on this site.
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9:22 pm
“if you think that Europe would have fallen under Hitler’s control”
Britain and Ireland was the only part of Europe that wasn’t under Fascist or Soviet control (apart from neutral Sweden and Switzerland). Britain was in the process of being bombed to rubble.
Without the US it would have been an arm wrestle between the Axis and the Soviet Union.
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9:24 pm
Hi Jonny. I enjoy arguing with you too. Haven’t seen you around for a while.
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9:59 pm
“Britain and Ireland was the only part of Europe that wasn’t under Fascist or Soviet control (apart from neutral Sweden and Switzerland). Britain was in the process of being bombed to rubble.”
The German occupied countries were showing greater levels of resistance as the war went on. Germany’s Blitzkrieg tactics were very effective in their campaigns against a large number of countries. They were also in the process of bombing Britain in a similar fashion. However it was not proving to be as effective as it had been with other countries.
“Without the US it would have been an arm wrestle between the Axis and the Soviet Union.”
Again Britain was still a major player in WWII during Germany’s constant bombing of Britain, but I do agree that the Soviet Union were a great threat to the Axis throughout. With the rate in which the Soviet Union was growing in power. I do agree though that if WWII went on for much longer without the US and it will probably have eventually become a battle between the Soviet Union and the Axis. It is probable that Britain would have to seek out the protection of the Soviet Union or fall under German control but that would still have taken time.
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10:02 pm
Also it has been a while since we’ve argued/debated (whichever you prefer) I’ve just been very busy these past few months so have not been on christwire for a while.
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4:59 pm
Nope the british are not crying over the slight drop in one ratings agency. Moody’s is the only ratings agency (there are multiple) to have dropped our country and that was only by one place. We’ve gone from a rating of AAA to Aa1, from the highest position to the highest end of the one just below.
The US may have helped out during World War II but they were far from saving us from being conquered. Britain did not need desperately saving. Britain has given the United States an awful lot of support since World War II, including a lot of military support since then, despite the general public consensus that we should not get involved.
The US Economy is far from being perfect or even superior. Your country apparently cleared it debt once on 8th January 1835. That lasted less than a year and since then you have not even come close since then. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/04/15/135423586/when-the-u-s-paid-off-the-entire-national-debt-and-why-it-didnt-last
Britain Does not use the Euro. One of the few countries in the EU not to use the Euro. We use the Pound Sterling, which at the moment isn’t collapsing. Britain has never used the Euro or the Dollar so it would be impossible for us to “switch back to making the dollar their main currency”.
The US has no control over a countries status. Just because the one rating company that slightly downgraded us happened to be New York based doesn’t mean that the US has anything to do with this slight downgrade. Britain may be in a recession but we are not alone it happens to be a global recession. Also Britain’s economy and society are far from collapsing to Third World country status, which again is something the US has no control over. The US need to stop being arrogant and stop thinking they control the world, you do not.
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5:45 pm
Give it up, you know we control you. Do you remember when Tony Blair was President George W. Bush’s lap dog? It is still all the same, buddy!
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6:16 pm
I remember when Tony Blair was in power, he seemed to think that it was important to SUPPORT (it was just support the US not do whatever your arrogant country said) the US and the “special relationship” between Britain and the US. However the US has never had a say in the British Government nor any control over us and hopefully never will. Stop deluding yourself Adam the US only controls its own country and hopefully that’s as much as the US will ever control.
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7:36 pm
Adam is well, sort of, supremist when it comes to America.
He could be the next Hitler. He thinks that cats are evil and that America should rule the world.
Bizarre/dumb/stupid/retarded/whatever.
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7:56 pm
Adam has clearly deluded himself into thinking that the US still has a lot of power on the global stage. This has not really been true for a while now. The only time it really could have been considered a super power was probably midway through the cold war and that was only due to nuclear weaponry, which no longer the very large threat it once was.
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8:02 pm
Britain isn’t a world power, either. LOL.
Adam thinks that america is some sort of “World King” (I couldn’t find a better term) that can do whatever it wants to do to anybody on a whim.
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8:14 pm
Yep, Britain is not a world power. None of the old world powers can really be called world powers any more. I like the phrase “World King”. May have to use that phrase myself. A better way of putting it might be saying that Adam believes that the US has and/or deserves an empire. Neither of which is true.
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8:41 pm
“the US only controls its own country”
So it has been wasting all this time toppling democratically elected governments and installing puppet dictators all through the Americas and the Middle East? Somebody should inform Washington.
“None of the old world powers can really be called world powers any more. ”
Sure, America has only invaded and destroyed two countries on the other side of the world in the past decade, but it has bombed plenty more and has huge military bases on every continent.
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8:59 pm
“So it has been wasting all this time toppling democratically elected governments and installing puppet dictators all through the Americas and the Middle East?”
No it has been going into countries and fighting “a war on terror”, and has claimed to be spreading democracy through the world and overstaying their welcome.
“Sure, America has only invaded and destroyed two countries on the other side of the world in the past decade, but it has bombed plenty more and has huge military bases on every continent.”
The same can be said for many other countries. Many countries have military bases throughout the globe including Britain. Does this make each of these countries a true world power? Not really.
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10:26 pm
“No it has been going into countries and fighting “a war on terror”
I was talking about the previous decades the US put into overthrowing democracies and installing/supporting dictators around the world, including in Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Chile, Argentina and Guatemala.
“Many countries have military bases throughout the globe including Britain.”
Britain doesn’t have anything like the size of the foreign military presence that the US does, nor does any other country.
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10:58 pm
Ah so you were actually talking about America’s (or various American organisations) involvement and aid that allowed a number of dictators to rise to power. Wasn’t entirely sure if you were being sarcastic there and talking about America’s later involvement in Iraq and Iran or were actually pointing out that America has supported/aided a number of dangerous and brutal dictators’ rise to power. Took a shot in the dark and went for the sarcastic route and was obviously wrong about that.
Yep, America has a history of doing that, often in the hopes of gaining some control over those countries but rarely really worked out that way. Many of those countries turned against America. No argument there.
However would like to point out that, as you said, much of that happened more than a few decades ago, during the Cold War. At that time I will admit that it could be said that America was a Super Power. My actual point is that they are not really a world power any more.
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12:23 am
“rarely really worked out that way. Many of those countries turned against America. ”
After regime change in some cases. But not while the American-backed dictators were still in power.
The only example of that that I can think of is Iraq under Saddam Hussein — and that was due to a misunderstanding. Saddam thought he had American approval to invade Kuwait.
“My actual point is that they are not really a world power any more.”
I think the current state of the world speaks to the contrary.
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7:48 pm
The pound is a very good monetary system. The dollar is like, horrible. It’s worth very little and is going to be worth even less.
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8:44 pm
On what do you base that assessment?
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8:58 pm
My money in my pocket and my Mother shopping. I’ve seen it. I’m a witness.
everybody is a critic. Seriously, van you live without arguing or being doubtful?
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10:28 pm
I was merely asking you on what you based your assertion.
How do you think that the British pound is a different “system” to the American dollar?
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7:06 pm
If it isn’t a dollar, then it is a different form of money.
IDK, really. It’s just not a dollar. System is the word that came to mind and that is what I typed. You question WAS simple. And stupid.
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8:00 pm
Both the dollar and the pound are the same sort of currency. Both have fallen in value against other currencies because the British and American economies have tanked.
The fact that the American dollar is now worth less against other currencies makes imports more expensive — which is perhaps what you were talking about with your mother shopping.
The pound and the dollar are no different. They rise and fall depending on the perceived strength of the British and American economies.
“You question WAS simple. And stupid.”
No it wasn’t. I was trying to get you to think about what you were saying.
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12:34 pm
Oh, dam.n. whatever. I guess I wuz wrong.
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10:39 pm
No problem. I’m glad you took the time to think about it.
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1:40 am
http://themetapicture.com/if-countries-had-facebook-during-wwii/
This Adams answer
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3:59 am
Ha. That was great.
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7:29 pm
I part British. I hold that over being just a plain old American.
Does that make me arrogant? No.
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7:30 pm
1/8th British. LOL.
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7:32 pm
1/8 German, too. I’ve got a bit of it all.
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1:49 am
I’m 2/8 Ukrainian 2/8 Korean 2/8 Russian 1/8 Vietnamese 1/8 pauluvian
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7:07 pm
All 8ths…
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7:59 pm
I need to remeber allof mine. It’s about as complex as jesse’s.
Well, jesse’s sister.
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7:33 pm
Adam, you are blind to the sacrifice that Britain paid with the lives of their citizens during BOTH world wars.
America does not = Ascendancy in national perfection.
Lose that idea.
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7:46 pm
Britain can fend for itself just fine without us. If all Americans were like you, the middle east would start lookin’ like a good place to live.
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7:34 pm
I do like the word ascendancy, though.
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8:03 pm
they need to recognize our economy as superior.
Do your research, Adam. Please tell me how it is doing better.
Also: Tell me that you actually think that Britain uses the euro.
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1:50 am
They use pounds
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7:03 pm
I know.
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11:41 pm
Why is Willie talking the UK when he should be running for prez?.
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/68750/willie-4-prez
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7:12 pm
I took a music/personality test. Evidently I’m supposed to be liberal.
IDK, it’s a work in progress with the end in doubt.
http://www.outofservice.com/music-personality-test/
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7:58 pm
Did I mention the gay test? That’s a litmus test I always hate…I can never quite clear it…Dam.n
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8:10 pm
What is this “gay test”?
That musical test looks like garbage. It probably called you liberal simply because you said you were creative and open to new experiences (and also because you’re young).
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8:14 pm
The test was more complex.
The gay test was a test that (Assuming you answered honestly about your sexual preferences) tell you your likely sexual orientation.
I did answere honestly and tried more than one. All the same answer.
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8:16 pm
Unfortunately so.
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8:26 pm
Don’t sweat it, dude. Que sera sera. And there’s nothing wrong with that anyway.
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8:41 pm
What’s the worst that could happen if you do turn out to be gay?
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12:33 pm
It’s the end of the entire world…Or mine at least…
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10:41 pm
Keep your chin up, dude. If your family can accept your cousin to some degree, I’m sure they can accept you. And if they get bent out of shape about it, that’s their shortcoming, not yours.
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8:15 pm
It said: People like me TEND to be liberal. It wasn’t a straight: Ur liberal bro!
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8:28 pm
Ah, OK.
Well, there are many famous right-wing artists, like Clint Eastwood, Pat Boone, Ted Nugent, Chuck Norris and all those neo-Nazi metal bands.
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12:32 pm
Neo-nazi?
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12:33 pm
Who?
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10:42 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_bands
There are loads more.
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12:52 pm
I’ve never heard about one of them…LOL, I didn’t know that there WAS such a thing…They tried to say that Hatebreed was a white power band…
…They aren’t…
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