Tim Tebow stiffens himself for new thrust; no longer soft on gays
Straight arrow: Tim Tebow merely enjoys wearing tight-fitting clothes.
AMERICA’S most Christian, most heterosexual footballer, Tim “Teabag” Tebow, has stiffened himself for a new thrust in his war on homosexuality.
Tebow had recently been accused of going soft on gays after he made a limp withdrawal from speaking at the megachurch of pastor Robert Jeffress, a man renowned for his frothy denunciations of men who play the pink oboe, the rusty trombone and veritable orchestra pit of other wood instruments.
But Tebow was only pulling out of Jeffress’s pulpit so he could plunge straight in to an even more accommodating receptacle, the snug, velvety embrace of the even more virulently anti-gay Liberty University.
Jeffress doesn’t mince words in saying things like “What [homosexuals] do is filthy. It is so degrading that it is beyond description.” So why has Tebow jilted him like some flighty flibbertigibbet?
Right Wing Watch points out that Liberty University is even more Christian in its
pathological hatred of homosexuality:
The school was founded by the late televangelist Jerry Falwell — it is
now run by his son — who has blamed gays and liberals for the September 11 attacks, supported racist laws in the U.S. and abroad and attacked the Teletubbies for “modeling the gay life style.”Liberty University bans gay students and … Vice President and law school dean Mathew Staver has defended the criminalization of homosexuality in Malawi, promoted the dangerous ex-gay therapy and warned that President Obama supports “forced homosexuality.” Furthermore, Staver has claimed that gay rights laws are part of an Antichrist spirit that lead to crime, child molestation and death, along with the destruction of America.
Staver’s fellow Liberty University dean Matt Barber has defended a Nigerian law
outlawing homosexual relationships, described the gay rights movement as “Satanic,”
claimed that gay youth who committed suicide took their own lives because they “know
what they are doing is unnatural,” accused gay rights advocates of supporting
pedophilia (along with fascism and Communism) and defined homosexuality as “one
man violently cramming his penis into another man’s lower intestine and calling it
‘love’”.
Over to you: Do you think that Tim Tebow should harden up even more? Should his next tryst be with the Westboro Baptist Church? Should he perhaps even reach out to Muslim fundamentalists who like to stone homosexuals to death? Should fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims try to focus more on the values they share than the ones they don’t?
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2:27 pm
Bible does NOT condemn homosexuality, all Jesus requires is love, go to gaychristiannetwork for indepth study.
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7:37 pm
Why is this a joke?!
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7:42 pm
Why would you think it’s a joke? It’s quite possible to be gay and Christian. Some mainstream churches have gay clergy.
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3:27 pm
So? They just want to do what they want and make excuses for it…That is stupid…Stupid, stupid, stupid…It’s so F@cking *DUMB* that I cannot comprehend why someone would even…Think that it was A-Okay in da church…foolz.
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7:18 pm
What, to be gay and christian? People like that exist, and they’re proud of the fact that God loves them. Apparently you aren’t too happy and you instead hate them because they’re being themselves.
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8:32 pm
Metalcore, Gay people don’t need an “excuse” to live happy, fulfilling lives enjoy the same kind of love and pleasure that hetero people do.
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9:47 pm
The moment L.N. says “HATE”…Imma be outta dis place…FOF;DR.*
*Full Of Falsehood, Didn’t Read.
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1:17 am
So Iron Brain refuses to see the truth? What exactly did I say that was wrong? Oh, that you don’t hate them? Then why do you think they’re a sin when there’s nothing in the bible to support this considering you follow only the NT? Why are you against homosexual marriage when it will have nothing but a positive impact on society? Seriously, how does having more people getting married and staying married weaken marriage? Why do you think your religion should be imposed onto others? Would you appreciate it if a Jewish or a Muslim president or legal body forced their religion onto you? No? Then what makes you think you can do it to others?
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1:43 am
LN, you’re overlooking Romans 1:26-27 for a start.
Bear in mind that “Christians” like Metalcore are actually Paulinists who believe that anything in the letters attributed to Paul overrides anything attributed to Jesus in the gospels.
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12:53 pm
L.N….Most predictable man alive. I could write one of your posts before you wrote it.
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9:48 pm
So when is Iron Brain going to actually try to prove me wrong? So far all he’s done is go ‘STFU’ and ‘so predictable’ and ‘tl;dr’. Come on Stupid, speak for once instead of being a parrot!
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10:14 pm
He still has a problem with me…LOL, even after I said that I now agred with him…Well, that’s his problem now.
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10:51 pm
Where in this section did you agree with me? All you did was go ‘so predictable’ and ‘tl;dr’. That’s all you do, avoid having to answer for yourself.
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11:16 pm
L.N., look around…It might be awhile before you find it…But when you do…You will kick yourself…You have no idea whatsoever.
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11:23 pm
word of advice, Metalcore: don’t force something you are not ready for.
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11:32 pm
I’m well aware…
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12:30 am
L.N., if you understood half of what you have done to, so far, you would call me by my real name, not your little title you have for me.
You just make it all worse.
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1:13 am
To be fair, at the point that I had posted that, all you said was that you supported it. Anyone can say that they’re something, but when there isn’t any real emotion, it’s nothing more than another lie.
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8:21 pm
Claire? is that you?!
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10:34 pm
Are you…THE Claire?…The one that everybody talks about?
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1:05 am
it must be an imposter! like Colonel Sanders or Papa Johns!
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3:33 pm
Okay…
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5:09 pm
Yawn anyone remember when they posted news on this site that was some what funny me to.
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7:27 pm
It’s not meant to be funny. ChrisTwire is a serious news website.
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7:37 pm
Seriously?! O RLY?!
O how far have thee fallen…
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8:22 pm
dis iz srs bsns gaise
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7:17 am
Srs tho. I liek ur hair gurl.
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10:15 am
It’s my natural hair.
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10:35 pm
Apricot…Since you draw…Did you draw the picture that is currently your avatar?…IDK…Just curious.
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10:29 pm
No, I don’t do Vecter art. but I could be drawing up my own version of Carnival Cat.
except my scanner broke, I think I may know why and I want blood for it…
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10:38 pm
I wuz talking about your picture that you had previously…You changed it directly after.
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10:39 pm
BTW, who will suffer for the desecration of your scanner?
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8:22 am
oh, No I am nowhere NEAR good enough to draw such realism.
Inkjet will suffer for it’s transgressions against humanity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
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12:55 pm
Yeah…They want to try to do that to ammunition…My family uses an epson…After going through an HP in less than a year and a half…
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3:24 pm
Oh, so you speak a 2nd language?
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8:43 pm
yes, I am fluent in Internet.
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9:45 pm
Oh…Yeah…Internet…I’ve heard of it…I probably need to get a good taste of it…
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9:49 pm
This is serious buisness guys?
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8:25 pm
Lol da fuq iz dis
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10:02 pm
It’s called journalism, my dear.
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6:28 am
K first off I’m not your “dear” second… This is just bad journalism. But I swear by hussie, this is hilariously stupid I’m not gonna lie
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6:42 am
How is it “bad journalism”? All relevant facts are fully linked and referenced.
Are you claiming that Tebow is not planning to speak at Liberty University? Are you claiming that Liberty University is not virulently anti-gay?
I think that you need to rethink that comment, young lady!
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7:11 am
No I dont
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7:31 am
How is it “bad journalism”? Does it contain any errors of fact?
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7:20 pm
Why do you care? Are you asking for journalism advice? I’m six
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8:33 pm
“Are you asking for journalism advice?”
No.
“I’m six”
Then your parents should wash your mouth out with soap, young lady.
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9:44 pm
How would Jade portray the situation?
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10:14 pm
I can’t work out whose side she’s on, Tebow’s or the gays’.
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5:30 am
I never mentioned any unit of time when I said I was six. I could. Be six decades six sweeps six months or six minutes. And I’m not on any side I just think you guys are stupid.
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5:32 am
And I your the dumbest if them all. HEE HEE HEE
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5:38 am
Whether you’re six or not, your parents should still wash your mouth out with soap. And then teach you some manners.
Why are you commenting on this site if you have no interest in the matters being discussed?
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10:41 pm
they try so hard to get you to mock the easiest innuendos. I shall not play your game.
I thought football was played with your feet.
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11:04 pm
Everywhere else it is. But America is exceptional, remember?
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11:11 pm
exceptional at making fun at ? you think the world praise you ? LOL in cuba they call the wild animal americans I’m sure in japan or china its the same thing you are not very welcomed anywhere
as for the football ( american one ) yoiu just steal it from british ( rugby) and add some more gay touching and padding
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11:39 pm
I am not American.
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1:32 am
Idk about China, but the Japanese don’t really have beef with Americans. They’ve proudly adopted American Culture.
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8:20 am
And now a whole generation of young Americans has turned into helpless weeaboos.
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1:43 am
ever since the “This isn’t a urinal, is it?” incident I can’t even claim to be from Canada
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1:57 am
Wow. That is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.
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9:50 am
what, the video? I think it’s depressing.
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10:31 am
Come on! It was hilarious!
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11:01 am
taking out the fact that it is how all Americans are portrayed in other countries, then yes, it is hilarious.
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11:20 am
Cheer up. Everybody knows that there are millions of intelligent Americans. Well, everybody except those stupid Europeans.
I come from a country that’s so dumb, drunk and racist that we actually had a TV series called Dumb, Drunk and Racist in which Indians came over here to see how dumb, drunk and racist we really are.
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12:16 pm
I have seen the dumb drunk and racist on a skit called “Straya Day” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ
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10:37 pm
Yep, that’s pretty much what the average Australian is like.
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11:25 pm
I definitely want to use that slogan for something though.
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11:31 pm
What slogan? Dumb, drunk & racist?
It should be on the Australian coat of arms, underneath the kangaroo and emu, both of which we eat.
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8:24 am
“F.uckin celebreate, ya poof”
you say that like it’s a bad thing, is it considered strange to eat anything not a farm animal?
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8:31 am
not to sound hypocritical, I don’t believe in stereotypes but a lot of the sh.it just seems so petty.
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8:50 am
Meh. I like kangaroo. It tastes like venison. I’ve only eaten emu a few times. It’s OK, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to get it. It’s too expensive anyway.
You used to be able to get kangaroo in most of the supermarkets here but it’s getting harder to find.
I’m not sure what you think was petty about that video. The mindless nationalism? The racism? The celebration of shoving broken glass in people’s faces? The bit about raping girls who are passed out drunk? I take it you’re aware that the words “poof” and “poofter” mean “faggot”.
Best country in the world, mate!
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8:53 am
Crocodile tastes great, though. I’m guessing you’re too far north to get fresh alligator…
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12:53 pm
If it isn’t human…and it breathes…WE CAN EAT IT. LOL
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3:46 pm
yes, I know what Poof means; the author of the video referred to it. I think it would be hilarious to use that slogan for something like nationalism; I’m sure you and I can both agree that it brings out the Dumb, Drunk and Racist in the spotlight. America is the same way.
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10:03 am
We are So exceptional over on this hemisphere we don’t even need to use an efficient measurement system!
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4:30 pm
So, just for the fun of it…I created a “Ponysona”…LOL.
http://themetalcorefan.tumblr.com/image/44729733990
LOL, maybe THAT should be my picture…It needs improvement…
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5:24 pm
… Did you really need to use the generic Pony Creator for that? Hell, I could of drawn a better design than what the creator can spit out…
(Heads up: Pony Creator is kind of dumb…)
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6:21 pm
When the pencil hits paper..Unless I’m writing…Bad things happen…Really bad…I CAN’T DRAW WELL, SO I USED IT…L-O-L.
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9:50 pm
My handwriting is…Not bad…It just looks…Unique…I have seen no other like it…Yet.
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6:01 pm
if you would like I can draw one up for you; you may not see it for a while though, my scanner broke.
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6:19 pm
That’s why I use a computer; I can’t draw..And the scanner works sorta funny…
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7:52 pm
If you want to…Go ahead…
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8:20 pm
How would you do it…?
I can visualize a design but never make it…
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8:23 pm
BTW, thanks for thinking of that…It’s quite…Kind.
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8:36 pm
I start off with a pencil sketch then do the rest on a program like GIMP: the linework, coloring and shading are all done digitally.
I’m doing it because I see an opportunity to show off my skills. plus, despite what you may think: I don’t dislike you.
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9:41 pm
I can make you a crude pencil/colored pencil drawing… Apricot is an artist… I’m definitely not…
Also, I don’t have a scanner… I can only take pics with my phone… Examples are early on in my Tumblr…
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9:41 pm
I don’t dislike anybody on here…I setteled any problems with the only person who I had trouble with on here…That person was not you in the least.
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9:43 pm
Oddathiest…We both clicked “Submit” at the same time.
BTW, I follow your tumblr and have seen your photos. They’re not bad in the least…
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9:54 pm
Huh, you do follow me… I got the email when Apricot followed me… But never got an email for you… If you message me on tumblr with a few ideas for a pony ican try my best to put them to paper… If Mass Effect 3 doesn’t get in the way… I’m addicted to that game…
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10:01 pm
I just looked on my “Follow” list…You’re right there…mroddities, I beleive…
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10:14 pm
I didn’t get an e-mail for my 1st follower…And I do have a very small number of followers…(3).
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10:18 pm
Yea… Just checked again… Don’t know how you slipped by me… Yea… I am MrOddities… I might draw some rough sketches in between MP matches in Mass Effect 3
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10:18 pm
What a disgusting picture. I’m sorry I unblocked that comment now.
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10:19 pm
When I got my 1st follower, (I’m elated, I have 3) I didn’t recieve an email…But I’m not your 1st follower…Who knows…
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10:20 pm
You unblocked my COMMENT?! I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!! THANKZZZZZ!!! I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE I’M SO GRATEFUL…..I’LL BE CHANGING MY PICTURE A LOT…DON’T WORRY…IT WON’T BE THERE 4 LONG…THANK YOU 4 EVER….
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10:21 pm
testing…
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10:27 pm
Laughing out loud! No big deal. All I had to do was press one button.
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10:32 pm
That is less ‘revolting’, I think…
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10:38 pm
Gimp?…My Dad uses the $700+ Photoshop program…With all of the extras…I need to figure out how to use THAT…Gimp is free…It’s very good I hear…I ought to try it…I do way better on a computer than on paper.
I do much better with video and music as a whole, though…
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1:13 am
“Gimp?…My Dad uses the $700+ Photoshop program…With all of the extras…I need to figure out how to use THAT…Gimp is free…It’s very good I hear…I ought to try it…I do way better on a computer than on paper.”
Why do people insist on paying hundreds of dollars for a program when the publishers themselves offer free editions of previous installments?
Also, what’s this whole thing with unblocking comments now from SJP?
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1:52 am
LN, Pastor Gould has seen fit to give me official ChrisTwire author privileges so I can upload my articles direct to the Holy Site and moderate comments on my stories.
The software seems to automatically block comments from new accounts, which is what Metalcore was talking about. Unblocking a single comment seems to unblock the whole account. Go figure.
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12:49 pm
I looked it up on the official wordpress help. An account is blocked until it has at least 1 comment moderated.
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12:50 pm
Oh and L.N., seriously? Do you have a problem with EVERYTHING?
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3:29 pm
On my tumblr blog, I installed disqus comments…I have very light comment requirements…Because I know how much of a pain moderation can be…
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4:00 pm
Oh, and I wear this pair of glasses, if that helps…
http://www.coolframes.com/get_image.php?fid=38369&color=1035259&alt=
There.
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9:10 pm
” An account is blocked until it has at least 1 comment moderated.”
Really? How annoying.
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10:03 pm
“The software seems to automatically block comments from new accounts, which is what Metalcore was talking about. Unblocking a single comment seems to unblock the whole account. Go figure.”
Ah, that’s what happened. Makes sense now.
“Oh and L.N., seriously? Do you have a problem with EVERYTHING?”
I’m just stating a simple fact, you get ripped off when you spend several hundreds of dollars when there are barely any differences.
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10:21 pm
L.N. is right, there is no reason to use anything higher than CS2 for Photoshop.
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12:52 pm
I have no idea how much he uses it…
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4:36 pm
This article is a classic ovvereaction. He thinks that homosexuality is wrong. He is pretty much like me in that way.
In exbrony’s mind: He must be a homophobe who wants gays to be killed.
Should he perhaps even reach out to Muslim fundamentalists who like to stone homosexuals to death? Should fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims try to focus more on the values they share than the ones they don’t?
That’s it…You made the insinuation.
I <3 tim Tebow for what he did and will actually say that the university would probably be a good place to go to college.
Right Wing Watch points out that Liberty University is even more Christian in its
pathological hatred of homosexuality.
All I have to say is: Having a strong stance against corruption isn't pathological hatred.
If I go to college…I'll have a couple places to start looking…WOTF.
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6:06 pm
And yet, my homosexual friend is more Christian than most Christians. What do you have to say to that?
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6:20 pm
The irony here is stunning. As long as he holds his own personal sexual desire over what the Bible says…To hell with any sign of being a real Christian.
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8:19 pm
But in the end…IDK…I’m still figuring it all out…Maybe I’ll change my mind…I probably will…I ALMOST have at various points in the past month…About 3 times a week…Or more…
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8:28 pm
he’s a she. and I’d chose her as a paragon of Christianity over anyone else.
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8:54 pm
Except the best thing you can find in the NT that says ‘gay sex is teh devil’ is that ‘they did bad stuff’. Who’s to say you’re also taking it out of context? What if it was two guys that, while they were in love, were also very evil beings and being punished for their evil acts? People who believe in the OT keep pointing at Sodom and Gomorrah as to ‘why gay sex is teh devil’ simply because there happened to be gay sex happening there and COMPLETELY overlook the fact that there was also raping (which was what a large amount, if not then all, of the gay sex was), pillaging, and murder happening as well, but apparently what set God off was the same sex sex that was happening. Sounds a bit silly, doesn’t it? It also sounds like some people want to use their religion as a tool to press their views onto other people. History has proved that time and time again the religious will take their religion and use it as a means of getting what they want. It is largely a tool used by incredibly evil people that want to control the lives of others. Then, when the present day rolls around, long after the previous practices have changed, they act like ‘well, of course they were wrong before, but I’m the one that’s right now’.
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9:27 pm
“Who’s to say you’re also taking it out of context?”
The real context is that “Paul” (by which I mean the author of 1 Corinthians) was also opposed to heterosexual people getting married and having sex because he thought the end of the world was coming any minute. (1 Corinthians 7 1-2, 7-8, 29).
The author of Matthew also believed the end was coming within a matter of decades — “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
They were wrong about that, and some folks would contend that they were wrong about other things as well.
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9:38 pm
So, L.N., you can have your mother come over to your house and help you write a page long essay…But I am in no way obligated to read it…
http://iambrony.jsmart.web.id/mlp/gif/TL%20DR.gif?1344080470
Yeah…Exbrony, that goes for you too.
It has become clear to me that if I’m going to find a stance on gay marraige…That it will be made away from the angst of christwire…No one here can say anything helpful about the issue, only: You’re stupid…I must make this very personal decision elsewhere, evidently.
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9:39 pm
So, L.N., you can have your mother come over to your house and help you write a page long essay…But I am in no way obligated to read it…
Yeah…Exbrony, that goes for you too.
It has become clear to me that if I’m going to find a stance on gay marraige…That it will be made away from the angst of christwire…No one here can say anything helpful about the issue, only: You’re stupid…I must make this very personal decision elsewhere, evidently
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9:54 pm
My post…Didn’t post…
Well, in the end…IDK. I’m figuring it out…It’s like a puzzle…Piece by piece by piece…It is slowly falling together.
(L.N. don’t go on an “You’re stupid and getting smart rant”…It’s not helpful…It’s…Offputting.)
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10:21 pm
“Exbrony, that goes for you too.”
Three paragraphs is TL;DR now? What are you, a goldfish?
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10:27 pm
Oh, whatever…I am SO elated over you getting my account to work…I’ll change the picture…SOON. I don’t want to get my account stuck…
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1:09 am
“So, L.N., you can have your mother come over to your house and help you write a page long essay…But I am in no way obligated to read it…”
A rather long way to say ‘tl;dr’, but I will give you points for at least putting in an effort to avoid simply saying that. Though, I guess you’d rather avoid having to think that you’re wrong about your religion (like many, many, MANY people are).
“I must make this very personal decision elsewhere, evidently”
What decision is there to make, either you’re a hateful prick who completely misuses his religion to get what he wants, even though you yourself don’t follow it the way you’re supposed to, or you realize that not everything in the bible is true and that, regardless of how you feel, your religion shouldn’t be imposed onto others.
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8:23 am
False dichotomy, LN.
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8:45 pm
“He must be a homophobe who wants gays to be killed.”
He is a homophobe, yes. But I never said that he wanted gays to be killed.
Many at Liberty University — like Mathew Staver –want gays put in prison.
The American religious right hates gays as much as right-wing Muslims do. They would make natural political allies.
“Having a strong stance against corruption isn’t pathological hatred.”
Is there no hatred in Staver saying that gay rights laws are part of an Antichrist spirit that lead to crime, child molestation and death, along with the destruction of America?
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9:58 pm
The American religious right hates gays as much as right-wing Muslims do.
Stop. Right there. Wrong. You can’t prove it. You can only look at mybe one person who kills a gay guy and say that every conservative is the same. Which would of course. be wrong. You’re all for logic…But then there’s YOU.
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10:23 pm
Sorry, I forgot. Thinking that people deserve to be burned alive for trillions upon trillions of years without hope of escape is all about love.
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10:29 pm
Wanting them to escape that IS. Helping thme on the way there ISN’T. I’m officially on an IDK status on gay marraige right now, so it doesn’t really matter…
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10:38 pm
Aren’t you a predestinationist? If so, everything that happens is God’s will anyway.
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3:31 pm
You have no idea which is which…So you have to try on everyone…
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4:02 pm
Oh…BTW, you changed the subject…To avoid the point.
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6:18 pm
but being a Predestinationalist means that Gays are destined to be gays. therefore, your “love” is a lost cause.
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6:35 pm
If they ARE gay…They might change…You have no idea who will and who will not…Some gays DO stop…That IS a fact…That’s why you have to try on everyone…
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6:37 pm
This is off subject. Exbrony wants to discuss me and not himself…
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6:50 pm
I dunno, I haven’t stopped being Heterosexual…
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9:37 pm
“Wanting them to escape that IS. ”
Who’s to say that they’re going to hell in the first place because they’re gay? You? On what authority? The bible? You mean the book that is used by many other hate groups, as well as being completely contradictory to itself?
“If they ARE gay…They might change…You have no idea who will and who will not…Some gays DO stop…That IS a fact…That’s why you have to try on everyone…”
If they are gay and they changed, then odds are they’re bisexual or something along those lines or else they’re lying to themselves. That’s how ‘pray away the gay’ works, you basically yell at gay people that they’re horrible and that they should be ‘normal’. You can’t just instantly change how you feel about people like that. Can you look at several naked men and get aroused by them? Sexuality isn’t like a light switch, you can’t just control what or who you’re into.
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10:23 pm
LN, please bear in mind that MCF is only 15.
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11:15 pm
I said IDK. For now.
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11:34 pm
“I said IDK. For now.”
That’s OK.
“Some gays DO stop…That IS a fact…”
They can stop having sex with men. They can force themselves to have sex with the poor women that they dishonestly marry and inevitably betray. But they cannot stop being gay.
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7:24 pm
Okay it IS fine…BUT, before this point I was NOT ignorant, dumb, hateful or anything of the sort. Take that or leave it.
I think that the whole “Christianity” thing went out the window, too.
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7:29 pm
However; Agreeing with any of you two makes me feel and will always make me feel…Like this:
http://themetalcorefan.tumblr.com/post/44889939953/theres-really-nothing-to-say
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9:39 pm
“Okay it IS fine”
What do you mean? I’ve lost track of what we’re talking about.
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9:45 pm
GAY MARRAIGE.
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10:05 pm
Oh, good. Why do you see it differently now?
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11:43 pm
The story has a lot of parts…I’ll tell it to you when I have time…And that is not now…
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12:10 am
Okay…It goes like this:
I have a goal and religion ISN’T getting me there. It isn’t working, so, if this works…Goodbye to that for good.
Now for the more complex story. I idin’t just go POP! and become okay with gay marraige. I have considered that ever since the idea was proposed early on my Christwire experience. None of the following arguments convinced me, but the idea was consistently there.
Last night…(It would be in the morning yesterday for you) All of my emotional stuff and the general examination of where my life is and where it was going all culminated in the general rejection of religion alltogether. I need to do what I need for myself because evidently, I’m the only one who can do it.
I had for the last couple of weeks been looking for a way TO BE okay with gay marraige. I actually kinda liked the idea and when religion went…There went the only obstacle.
http://fim.413chan.net/art/src/131083584611-LyraBonBonKiss.png
Oh yeah, and I romanticized about it in my little stories ALL THE TIME.
It’s like this: There is the me that people know and are familliar with and then there’s ME. ME won…But nobody in my family will ever know for a long time. I will admit…It is hard to only confide in yourself for year after long year. It causes strange behavior and intense outbursts occasionally. It overall has darkened my overall demeanor. People definetly notice that and wonder why. That’s probably why my ambient stress level is through the roof day and night…I would probabaly have killed myself if I had no goal to reach…With religion I had none. If it wasn’t for music…That is my #1 help in getting by…And talking on Christwire on occasion. The me that people know and me are two different people entirely.
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12:10 am
There that felt good to type out.
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12:13 am
The way that L.N. talked about me when he knew absolutely nothing made it a lot worse. You get intense depression when all the people around you seem to have a mutual distaste for you. (Even yourself at times)Even if they DO like you…That wasn’t how it all comes across.
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12:14 am
Some days…One day looks a long way off…If there is one.
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12:17 am
All That Remains’ Album, “This Darkened Heart” was the album that convinced me to make my decision last night.If I wasn’t listening to that…I have no idea what would have happened.
Well, at least I DO have someone who I can talk about this with…Typing is so much easier than speaking. That’s probably why I write.
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12:19 am
I think that at this point you have realized that I am very emotionally unstable…Up and down, up and down, up and down…over and over and over and over and over again.
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12:22 am
On occasion it’s worse…Some days I’m fine…Sometimes I’m doing great for about 1 moth straight…But that is usually followed the worst parts…
July 2009 – 2013 has been a fairly challenging period of my life…
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12:24 am
moth? JT did that, didn’t he? LOL, two different people make the same typo in the same context…A moth isn’t too long, so I’ll have to correct that to 1 month.
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12:27 am
Sometimes I am authentically happy…But it’s always overshadowed by THAT.
5 more years of this and I will probably shut down entirely.
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12:28 am
If I work towards my goal I ought to be okay…If I can last through this…I will be able to enjoy it later. Hopefully.
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12:32 am
I think I said to much, but I have to do something or otherwise…It just get’s worse. Mise well be here then any other old place.
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12:34 am
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. That is the case.
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1:03 am
Wow. I’m glad that you’ve changed the way you think.
It all seems to have happened very quickly, though you have obviously been thinking about this stuff for a long time.
Like you said, your family doesn’t need to know this now. The important thing is that you are at peace with yourself and don’t feel guilty for the things you feel.
“It is hard to only confide in yourself for year after long year.”
I can’t begin to imagine how hard it has been, especially in your circumstances.
You have grown up in a very, very small world with a very rigid anti-gay attitude.
As you get older you will see that there is a much wider world in which gay people are loved and cherished for who they are (not in spite of who they are), and are even seen as unremarkable.
“My ambient stress level is through the roof day and night”
I don’t doubt it.
“I would probabaly have killed myself if I had no goal”
I certainly hope you don’t do that. If you ever get to feeling that way, call one of the free, anonymous teen help lines. They are staffed by qualified, sympathetic people who know exactly what you’re going through, and they will be able to reassure you that you’re not the only one going through this.
The It Gets Better project has a list
http://www.itgetsbetter.org/pages/get-help/
I’m sure that you will still have sad and stressful times in the future, but it will get better.
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1:27 am
Metalcore, I clap my hands in your honor. You’ve certainly had one hell of a growth spurt. As such, I apologize for all of the horrible things I said to you. I’m being serious with this as well. My extreme methods were in a way a reflection of what many ‘christians’ act towards homosexuals. I’ve heard of too many cases where someone killed themselves because of how others treated them, purely because they were gay. It’s not exactly the greatest feeling in the world, is it? And when someone’s told that they’re ‘broken’ or ‘wrong in the head’ and have entire sections of people DEDICATED to making sure that they don’t have a happy life, it certainly doesn’t help at all. Some people are blessed with having friends there to help take the pressure off, to let them know that they are loved and that it’s okay to be themselves. Others? Not so much. Even with the advent of the internet there are people who still suffer from the same issues. It’s easier to find people to relate to, but it’s also easier for others to hunt them down.
Anything else that I have to say would basically mirror what exbrony already said. The only addition I’d make is that if you’re uncomfortable physically talking to someone about your issues, there are other services such as text-based and IM/web-based communications that offer the exact same kind of help, but better-suited to those who are incapable of physically talking for one reason or another. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the names, but a google search or a couple asks to others on tumblr should net you good results, just make sure you tag the posts appropriately on tumblr to make things easier.
I’m quite proud of the growth you’ve made, and I am sorry you’ve had the battles within you for so long. When you’re out on your own, life will change for the better, emotionally speaking, but until then, fight the good fight.
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10:05 am
I wouldn’t give up religion entirely, I never could. If you feel that religion is unnecessary for you then that’s good. But if leaving Christianity feels empty, you should know there are other version of Christianity as well as other religions.
not to try and pull you back, you should find your own path and see what works for you.
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10:24 am
through all that, I forgot to say that I’m happy for you. this is a huge change in your lifestyle! few people could undergo the stress of such a rapid change in perspective.
if you ever need to talk, I’m sure most of us here will be happy to help you through any difficult times, including myself.
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4:51 pm
Well, now I’m not sure what to say.
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5:42 pm
The whole deal consists of several things…Being gay or bisexual will unfold in due time…In my family, there are tons of…Things that get called tools of Satan…Metal being evil is a big part…
Basically, pretty much evrything that defines me as a person is…Evil.
The main reason that religion went is this: It wasn’t working at all anyway. It was making my life worse. When that went there was no longer any reason to be opposed to gay marraige anymore. Oh yeah…And there are other problems that factor in…They add a lot to my reason for leaving religion in general, too.
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9:08 am
That’s because most “Christians” believe anything fun is Evil.
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1:23 am
Iron Brain, you don’t have to kill someone in order to hate them. Though, supporting bills that DO call for the deaths of homosexuals in other countries, as well as wanting to erect fences to put every homosexual in America to starve to death, as well as constantly telling homosexuals that they’re going to Hell and belittling them and saying that they should be ‘fixed’ and telling them that they’re unloved is basically the definition of hate.
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7:23 pm
Pentagram pentagram Satan Satan pagan sacrifice Satan Satan pentagram blood 666 blood666 satan Satan 666
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6:14 pm
don’t sacrifice the Pagans; they are a peaceful religion.
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6:33 pm
What’s your problem? You must be 6 alright…
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6:33 pm
What’s your problem?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1x3qzuxdI1r3k1m8o1_500.gif
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8:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FezGn_WTw_c
play this game…
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10:22 pm
Exbrony you are awesome!!! My account works!!! I’m gonna have to tell Mr. Gould that it’s all okay now!!!!!!!!!!!! I emailed him and he said that he would fix it…Thank you SO much!!!
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10:25 pm
I would say “you’re welcome” if you had chosen a less revolting picture.
I don’t know how the system works. It seems to auto-block a lot of new commenters, which is obviously not going to help the ChrisTwire community grow.
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10:31 pm
That’s better…Now for a welcome?
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10:40 pm
*eyeroll*
Well, since you said that you love me and that I’m awesome…
You’re welcome.
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1:38 am
Welcome my dear little pony friend,
come and stay with me till the end,
there’s just one thing that has to be said,
if you cannot play then you’re dead,
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1:45 am
A terrorist by the name of bin Laden;
Was fiddling around with his hard ‘un;
He said “I’d like to root a llama”;
“Or a humpty-backed brahma”;
“Or a dog tied up in me garden.”
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9:58 am
cause this is the place where I am the one to see,
but I want more so come pretty please,
with me the Cat of Carnival design,
baby get in line YOU’RE MINE!
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12:44 pm
So it’s creepy rhymes is it?
OKAY great…I am good at that.
The cause of death:
Total suffocation
a very small struggle
and some minor lacerations
So…That’s excerpt from: The death of Rarity…Yep. I <3 death metal.
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12:47 pm
Oops…I can use the new account.
Either way, that song is written you a re reading a Crime Scene Investigator’s notes…Whatever you call him…
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1:00 pm
Mine is Carnival Cat.
the most alluring and irresistible Pony to ever walk out of the Everfree forest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAabtQZSdlE&list=UL7bdM7rbB16c
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3:31 pm
Oh…I write my stuff myself…
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8:46 am
I don’t think the Chris†wire ministries condones the Westbroro Baptist Church because they’re too liberal with their anti-America and anti-Troops positions.
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9:04 am
Oh, absolutely, Cassidy. I certainly didn’t intend to imply that! I was just trying to stimulate conversation.
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3:32 pm
You can stimulate a LOT of things OTHER THAN conversation, too.
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9:12 pm
Oooh! Matron! You are a saucy one today!
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11:17 pm
As saucy as your new picture is ugly.
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11:28 pm
I think Exbrony’s avatar makes it’s point very well.
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11:29 pm
Not very saucy, then. I think I look quite handsome.
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11:30 pm
Thanks, 4pri.
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12:50 pm
See…I’m NOT saucy! Your picture is fine…It’s growing on me.
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12:08 am
Metalcore Fan is always quick with the insults.
Hey Metalcore Fan, your judgments were not solicitated nor are they welcome here, stupid.
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11:17 am
Cassidy Pen, always the loving christian. You are a hypocrite…Stupid.
Really? Are you this petty? You’re making Jesus look bad, man.
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6:00 pm
The main reason why clopping is bad:
http://themetalcorefan.tumblr.com/post/44795141134/just-a-friendly-reminder#notes
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6:13 pm
but they make it so hard NOT to…
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6:31 pm
I know…
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9:26 pm
I even have a fave…I have probably caused the deaths of at least 7 ponies…
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3:34 am
I hope you ate the meat so it didn’t go to waste.
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7:50 pm
WHY IN SATANS NAME AM I BANNED
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9:28 pm
Annoying…Ain’t it?
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1:03 am
Hi Sasha. New accounts cannot post until one comment is moderated. You should be OK to post now.
How are you and how is Jesse?
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8:20 pm
That isn’t your REAL name, is it?
Arthur Durry, not exbrony, BTW.
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8:58 pm
I’m fine I got girlfriend and Jessie’s well ev see that anorexic Christian bale movie yeah he looks like that turns out he did not know someone was giving him cocaine he just thought it was sugar since he likes sugary tea but is was too late so he got addicted and couldn’t stop and went to Amsterdam he has recently had a heart attack because well poor health and I could actually lose my brother so youcanprobally guess my feelings right now I don’t live in America Ilive in eastern Russia anyways they say if he doesn’t get better soon he could die
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9:07 pm
Wow, Sasha. I’m really sorry to hear that. I hope you have family and friends who can support you through this.
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9:13 pm
I’m so sorry for you and your brother. I hope that he will recover in due time and all will be set to rights…
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9:27 pm
how old is Jesse? I’ve always thought that he was in his mid 20′s. IDK why.
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10:10 pm
Oh no, not Jesse…
I’m really sorry…
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7:51 pm
I come online and find out that I can’t type a comment
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9:28 pm
Either way, how are you? I hope that you’re alright.
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8:59 pm
Read above
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4:47 am
Couldn’t reply above but Jesse is younger then me he is 23 I’m 27
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12:58 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korn
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12:59 pm
So I CAN post links…Sometimes…That was just a test link…
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1:00 pm
test agian,…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korn
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1:00 pm
There…Test has been passed…
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8:18 pm
But will a video work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAWjsVoDpm0
Yes.
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8:19 pm
Joy…It all works…So why did my GIF’s and memes not post?
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9:11 pm
I dunno. You know more about WordPress than I do.
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9:17 pm
You can look up just about anything in the wordpress help.
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9:01 pm
Quick question is Arthur a common Australian name like viktor and natasha and Sasha are common Russian name
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9:09 pm
Hi Sasha, no it’s not a very common name in Australia.
And MCF, no, it’s not my real name. I never use my real name on the internets.
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9:17 pm
A wise notion.
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9:05 pm
[[EDITED TO REMOVE LINK TO NASTY WEBSITE]]
ENJOY I AM ON MY 2nd bottle ill be on my third in about a hourHOORAY GET READY FORDANCING NAKED LADIES
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9:10 pm
Sasha, please don’t link to p0rn on the Holy Site!
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4:48 am
Thank you I was celebrating last night so over did the alcohol I turned 28 yesterday
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9:25 pm
HOW THE FUC.K DID YOU MOD A POSTED COMMENT?!
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9:35 pm
Quite easily.
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9:45 pm
How? LOL, I don’t know…
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10:06 pm
I am able to mod comments on my own stories, but not on other people’s.
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10:13 pm
You edited her comment?
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9:48 pm
Quite a bit of time has passed since I last commented… So what’s up everybody?
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10:13 pm
Jesse may die and I approve of gay marraige. That it, that’s all. Oh, and the usual stuff.
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10:20 pm
I drew p0rnography, then burned it.
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10:25 pm
You guys sound like you’re having fun… Except for the Jesse thing… I sincerly hope he gets better
I see you’ve adopted the Brony side of life… Or have been absorbed into massive, Legion like mass… Whichever works…
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10:47 pm
I have adopted the brony side of life…My blog is 97% MLP stuff and 3% metal stuff…I didn’t think that THAT would happen…
…I use it as an inspiration for my writing. It’s sincerely creepy when you watch a happy MLP episode and get inspired for a song called “Choking on Blood”…I wasn’t even reading a grimdark fanfic. I just see Fluttershy and BLAM!!! I get an idea for a creepy song…
You can observe the darkness best when you contrast it with the light, I guess.
Yep, I’m weird.
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10:57 pm
The dark side of things is usually the best to be in… More excitement…
You ever write smut? Or something very sexu…. Wait hold up… Forgot you’re only 15… Perhaps I shouldn’t be asking that…
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11:14 pm
Damn I sure THINK about writing smut. I want to write some fanfics. I just wouldn’t like to have my mother take a spin through my notebook and find SMUT. I’d do that on the computer…LOL.
I AM going to write a fanfic one of these days…I’ve got tons of ideas.
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11:20 pm
In my mind…I’ve got a horror box of clopfics waiting to see the light of the bad day that someonebody reads them.
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12:49 am
Eh… Clopfics are easy-peesy… I meant more towards real smut… Like between humans…
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4:10 pm
Oh…REAL smut…L-O-L…Do you read it? I tend to write non-sexual mateirial…Not out of dislike…Just I haven’t experimented with stuff like that. I could.
Most of the stuff I write isn’t about people. I wonder if that works, though. Maybe I DO need to write about peoiple more? What do you say? Or is not writing about people not going to work out? I’m looking for a second opinion.
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6:15 pm
Read it… Occasionally. Write it… Occasionally.
With writing… Writing about humans, while difficult, is the easiest to get used to… Since we are humans and human interactions are second nature to us… It’s when you start getting into things other than humans that sh*t gets interesting…
So practice writing with human subjects… Then just go wild (This applys to more than smut btw)
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6:25 pm
So…What does…Get interesting mean?
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6:30 pm
The point was…Is non-human writing…Useful?
I will experiment with what you have recommended
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6:50 pm
My point was pretty much start with familiarity, then you at least have a jumping off point… And it helps improve your writing at the same time
By “gets interesting” I meant… Exactly that… When you add in characters (in both normal writing and smut) other than humans… It adds variety and allows a lot more creative liberties…
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7:20 pm
I see.
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7:24 pm
Have you noticed that basically ALL animated films are aimed at children and/or a family audience and are usually G or PG?
I’ve always thought that making animated films aimed at a more mature audience with a highr rating might do very well…
That was off subject. Either way, what do you think?
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7:33 pm
Animation isn’t easy or cheap… So they aim it towards an audience where it’s gurantees to make money… ie, kids… Since parents will take their kids to go see such movies
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8:05 pm
Hopefully, that is slowly changing.
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8:17 pm
More than likely that it won’t change… Animated kid/family movies are big money makers and this will continue to take up most of the animation sect of movies… That’s not necessarily a bad thing though… A lot of good movies are animated family flicks
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9:44 pm
“I’ve always thought that making animated films aimed at a more mature audience with a highr rating might do very well…”
It’s the idea that cartoons and the like are strictly for children, at least in America. Nevermind that technically speaking, most movies nowadays could be considered cartoons (coughAvatarcough).
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12:00 am
Then…I shall have to try to do otherwise…
…I wonder if a concept movie would work…It hasn’t really been tested much.
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12:02 am
I’ve made up my mind to write a fanfic…I want it to be a good one, s do any of you know what horror fanfic readers WANT to read? It’s easy to write for an audience when you know what they want.
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2:15 am
Im actually writing a fanfic as well at the moment… Except mine is a Mass Effect one…
As for what horror audience wants… I’m pretty sure there’s an adence for everything, just write what you want
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3:31 am
Someone should do a ChrisTwire fanfic in which Bruce and August are brave American heroes who have to save Sister Susan from a psycho stalker named LN.
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4:14 am
I feel like I could write that… As a challenge though… Since I care not for Bruce nor August nor Susan…
Let me get some progress on my Mass Effect and I’ll write a quick draft of it… Should provide a laugh or two…
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7:00 pm
I want to make my fanfic unique. I know what I want it to be about…It should be interesting…
Cupcakes was graphic murder…Sweet Apple Massacre was horrid…Rainbow Factory had a storyline.
I don’t want my fanfic to be graphic murder…I don’t want it to be Sweet Apple Massacre horrid…And I want a storyline…And I want blood.
So…Listen to Lamb Of God’s “Walk With me in Hell”…And get to work…
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7:32 pm
Sweet Apple Masscre is actually a pretty well written story… Subject matter is a whole different story though…
My Mass Effect fic probably isn’t that original (A Human and a Quarian(An alien: will provide link if interested) trapped behind enemy lines)…it’s better to write what you find fun or interesting… Sometimes you have to ignore whether not its completely unique…. When you write something that you want to write without limiting yourself… Your writing gets better…
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10:48 pm
Oh, good. Why did you burn it?
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11:18 pm
I don’t Draw P0rnography.
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11:23 pm
I can write it…
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10:27 am
that’s awesome! I can’t write, it takes too much patience.
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4:07 pm
Oh…I don’t draw because…Wait…Oh yeah…It takes too much patience.
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4:51 am
Change that may to did I’m gonna go cry now
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10:38 pm
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541002_463921357014946_1741231076_n.jpg
relevance…
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10:48 pm
Sin?
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11:19 pm
yes! everyone sins! we are human, after all.
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8:29 am
I took the Bible sex quiz at Landover Baptist but I only got five out of 10. I’ll have to start hitting the KJV again…
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0204/biblesex3.html
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10:33 am
I got a 1
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11:19 am
Same here…
I’m guessing we won?
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2:46 pm
lol I don’t read…
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4:05 pm
I got 8. I could have gotten 10 easily.
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2:50 pm
All sorts of Feels in this Comment Section.
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4:06 pm
I can’t eems to get dat 2 work.
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3:31 pm
What happened here…
whale
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6:26 pm
Whale fail.
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4:55 am
WELL GREAT JESSESDEAD MY BROTHERS HAVE BEEN SHOT AND MY PARENTS HAVE CRASHED AND DIED WORLD CAN’T GET ANY WORSE CAN IT
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