Pro Tools von Avid ist als Hardware-System für professionelles Recording bekannt geworden. Alle DAWs sind Mist. I use both Logic Pro X and Ableton Live equally. Logic Pro X’s history as a MIDI sequencer stretches all the way back to 1992, when it started life as Notator Logic, so it should come as no surprise that it offers a lot more in the way of MIDI manipulation than the newer, wilfully minimalist Ableton Live. Recording synths, playing guitar, bass, and piano, and drums on occasion. I was not expecting Ableton to become such a critical part of my workflow when I got it, and for most people I think its probably the best DAW to get unless you're only dealing with the audio recording world. Post by moudimixer » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:01 am Hi I was considering to buy Ableton 6. there's really no good built in tool for that (Ultrabeat sucks) and the only (but very inflexible) way to do it really is to arrange one shot samples in audio tracks. Logic vs Ableton 2017. There are so many available sources for it and in depth analysis of specific tools like Simpler, Sampler, Operater etc. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I create primarily house and I have both. May 30th, 2008, 10:05. HELLO! coming from FL Studio, the biggest pain I had with Logic was sequencing drums efficiently. Ableton Live vs Logic Pro? Posted by 10 years ago. I have watched many tutorials, many in Ableton, and have seen the workflow tools and ease of use of the daw. You have a different screen for the playlist, for the mix of the patterns, for piano roll editing and so on and you can find that you are consuming a lo… Dieses Thema im Forum "Musik produzieren" wurde erstellt von Bensenz, 12.10.09 . FL Studiohas a sort of pattern based layout, it has a sequencer, a mixer window right-clicking on the tracks puts up the piano roll window where you can draw your melodies arrangements. Joined: Jan 6th, 2008. The only thing IMO that logic has over ableton are its stock plugins but there are tons of free ones out there you can use. My music Production is for people who just want to buy software without all the expensive VST Plugins. Ableton Live has been considerably more stable in all previous versions which is clearly very important due to its heavy use for live performance where the possibility of a crash can be devastating to a show. Ableton Live vs Logic Pro X. My eventual goal is to write in Live, master (possibly mix) in Logic. The most important reason people chose Ableton Live is: Ableton's session view gives a much quicker, more flexible way of experimenting with ideas than a typical linear interface. Use both. Audio is like jelly in ableton, you can change the BPM, pitch with ease. I use both, if you mean funky house as in a lot of sample usage, Ableton is the way to go. Today with Top Music Arts, we will take you through a summary and comparison of both Logic Pro and Ableton Live. found this post helpful. Logic vs Ableton 2017. As someone who uses both I prefer logic. Ableton vs Logic Pro. Abletons browser blows logics out of the water, if you wanna quick find samples and organise your own folders and it even syncs the loops your previewing to your current project so you can quickly hear if it will fit or not. Reason provides a more traditional approach to both audio and MIDI. Apple Targets Ableton Live With Logic Pro X 10.5. Hi Ihr alle, Also folgendes. 3. Typically Logic for audio intensive projects and Live for MIDI intensive projects, but often i'll make my MIDI in Live and then record all my audio in Logic - then I bounce it … Does anybody use both … The latest (today) thing was MaxScore/LiveScore, a free M4L package for using notation with Live and Max. yeah, what I plan on doing with funky house is using disco vocals/samples and working around them, I’ve been on logic for 4 years and love it, tried out ableton because of what I’ve seen the warp engine do. 600 US$ for the program, 150 US $ for operator and 200 US$ for sampler. Expensive. Logic upped its game with audio stretching, but it’s still nowhere near the capabilities of Ableton. Ableton Link Eine Technologie, die Musikanwendungen automatisch synchronisiert, sobald alle im selben Netzwerk sind: für Live, andere Musikprogramme und iOS-Apps. I want to attempt making electronic music (EDM - Deadmau5, Cirez D, SHM, etc) and I need some advice from fellow enthusiast on which software you would recommend? Du bist neu im Tonbereich und auf der Suche nach einer DAW? Posted by u/[deleted] 3 years ago. This is helpful. Posted by u/[deleted] 3 years ago. Bensenz. Ableton vs Logic! I've gotten to the point where GarageBand isn't cutting it for me anymore... and I'm looking for a more professional software. But I feel like I am sitting on a locked treasure chest with Logic. I'd say give them both a try yourself and just pick whichever you like the workflow of most. As a side note, we have fou… They cover different ground. The brand new Logic Pro X 10.5 Update has just released and it is jam packed with brand new features!! After that I started using Logic on my MacBook. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. How to choose logic or ableton for beginners. Posts: 5. Only reason I ever use ableton is to warp audio or use simpler bc I don’t like logic’s ESX24 at all. Heutzutage bietet die Software eine vollwertige DAW, die sich auch nicht vor Logic Pro X verstecken muss. Archived . Typically Logic for audio intensive projects and Live for MIDI intensive projects, but often i'll make my MIDI in Live and then record all my audio in Logic - then I bounce it out and bring it into Live for final creation. Ableton Live vs. Logic 9. Ableton Live Standard can be bought for 449 USD. Logic is good for exporting the final product because of all the different file types you can do. Ableton vs. Logic Introduction. I love both Logic X and Ableton equally. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. So I always go with Ableton. Logic Pro X vs Ableton Live - Which One Is Better? Since I love playing live music , I should clearly go with A DAW like ProTools, right? It’s like comparing a Porsche to a Subaru Impreza. I use both Logic Pro X and Ableton Live equally. If you spend enough time in almost any DAW you can get the sound you want but there's a reason most house/tech producers use Ableton. However, I was wondering about the prizing. Close. Now, I understand that this is something that is discussed time and time again but I have a dilemma. Here is another video for you all! As someone who switched to ableton this year after being a full logic user for the last 6 years, I cannot recommend ableton enough. Status des Themas: Beachte, dass dieses Thema älter als ein Jahr ist! Ableton Live vs Logic Pro? Logic Pro; Logic Vs Ableton; Post Reply. There is no better. True to that statement, when you make a course enquiry at SOS, you’ll likely hear a different answer from each of the School’s tutors. Logic Pro and Ableton Live are both flagship DAWs at the forefront today's music production world. Logic Pro X is only available for Mac, and can be downloaded from the App Store for £199.99. Is Logic Pro X better than Ableton Live, or is Ableton Live better than Logic? In this video a hardcore Ableton Live user tries to make a beat in Logic Pro X. 19. Logic its a nightmare. Ein Punkt ist ganz entscheidend. I have many interests in music. Alternatively you might disagree entirely and think that Ableton is the be-all-end-all DAW, in that case feel free to present your argument :). Eins haben alle DAWs gemeinsam: Es sind Werkzeuge für Musiker und Tonschaffende. Reason’s interface resembles actual studio hardware and gives the user the feeling they are in a real studio. Any help will be appreciated, Thanks . Registriert seit: 05.10.05 Punkte: 122. Then I hop over to Logic to master stems (eq/compression/volume) and add some finishing touches. At the risk of getting lynched for saying so in an Ableton group :-) , if that's your total budget, I'd recommend considering Logic since it comes with lots more synths, devices and sounds. This all brings it very close to Logic Pro 7, which boasts quite a few nice features, too. Logic Pro vs Ableton 6. Ableton has an unlimited trial period (with no saving of course) and if you bought your Mac within the last 4 years it should come with GarageBand installed which I believe is basically a watered down version of Logic. Close. Conclusion: get Ableton, it’s a bit harder to get in to, but it will definitely pay off if you ask me! If I need to sample, I usually adjust the sample in ableton and bounce it to logic. I started music production since 2014 and i started with Ableton live 9 Standard. Well worth it. It is beautifully laid out, powerful, and sounds great. Putting aside the cost of Ableton Live 9 Standard, which DAW would you recommend for me? I use Live for 5 years and still discover cool new stuff about it almost every day. yeah I have the Ableton trial downloaded and have purchased a video learning course to teach myself the basics and I like the layout of it. Most logic users will agree that Logic Pro has always been much more prone to screen freezes or ‘hangs’ and full application crashing. At 749 USD, Ableton Live Suite (the most fully-featured edition) is more expensive than other DAWs. In session view, each instrument part is a separate entity that can be mixed and matched with other parts without having to rearrange anything. (I have been going back and forth for days on which DAW to purchase.) It slowed me down so much and applying effects in different windows was also pretty annoying. Close. Logic Pro X definitely has the edge here, as audio recording and live performance tracking is incredibly fast-paced and intuitive within the Logic interface. I have used Logic Pro X for over a year now and really got used to the layout and what it has to offer but one day I started looking into ableton. Ableton Vs. Reason: Audio And MIDI. Archived. Logic Pro X or Ableton 9 Live Standard?! Everytime I've tried making a song on abelton I have no idea what to do but logic pro x seems much easier to me. I realize not many people have this kind of experience in both DAWs, so I made a video comparing the two and who should get each one. Ableton bietet spezielle Angebote für Studenten und Lehrkräfte an: Sparen Sie bis zu 40% beim Kauf von Ableton Live oder Push. I use logic for recording and comping vocals and live for quickly coming up with ideas and drums, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Buy Ableton and for a synth you can get Sylenth and pay it up at like £7.99 per month. But I have been using Ableton about 10 years and only recently have I acquired Logic in the past couple years. As for tutorials online I really suggest Ableton. And by this I mean Ableton vs. FL vs. Logic vs. Cubase vs. ProTools etc. as you're making house sequencing drums is critical, so I'd strongly suggest going for Live if that's the other option for you. Ableton is looking the more likely at the minute due to tutorials and the such for tech house being more available. If you get Ableton (which I think is superior in most other regards) you're probably going to need to supplement it with additional plugins and/or samples before long. Any help will be appreciated, Thanks. Logic Pro X vs. Ableton Live: Pro music studio showdown. As a vocalist, Ableton Live is borderline crippling to use since it doesn't support comping. Ableton feels alot more fluid and smoother to use for me, I found logic to be very clunky. I prefer logic after testing ableton for some weeks. Logic Vs Ableton. I started out in GarageBand because of being able to create music on my iPhone on the go. Recently I started working with Ableton which looks like a mess at first, but if you get into it a bit more it’s really cool. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ich habe Logic Pro 8 und komme damit sehr gut zurecht. Logic is pretty user friendly but speaking as someone who went from Logic to Ableton (because I fell in love with the Push2), I recommend the latter. Ableton Vs Logic: Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner. But I love Ableton better from a creative process standpoint. I also don’t think you need any VST’s and if you DO want them, there are a lot of great free ones. For those of you already in the Ableton boat (which I would imagine you are if you're here), this could open your eyes into what you're missing in your current workflow. Leider ist sie noch immer nicht komplett kompatibel zu Windows 10. For me, Logic Pro X is the clear winner and best DAW between the two, regardless of genre. Ableton Live 9 is a sturdy workhorse. Are you wondering if you should get Logic Pro or Ableton Live? Hey guys have currently been using logic pro for the past 2 years and have gotten used to it, but i have problems with the workflow and the "glitchyness" of it. The new features look all very impressive. Price isn't a factor as I would be buying the standard Ableton live. I love the way Logic X handles CPU, mixing, and audio better. I am looking at getting into producing tech house and funky house and I want to know what DAW will be the best for a beginner to learn and eventually make my own tracks? Frustratingly this happens fairly often, which casts a bit of a shadow over what is otherwise a very powerful and comprehensive application. When comparing Ableton Live vs Studio One, ... Confusingly, Ableton's comping abilities (or lack thereof) cannot hold a candle to other industry standards like Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, etc. Allerdings ist Ableton in Sachen Recording und Post-Production Logic unterlegen. I can only really afford one atm so im looking for the best one that would suit producing tech house. This time, "Tayo" and "Years From Now" face off in a 30 minute beat making challenge! 12. 5 posts. Ableton Live, Apple Logic Pro oder Garage Band, Cockos Reaper, Avid Pro Tools, Steinberg Cubase, Presonus Studio One und wie sie nicht alle heißen. Here are some (there are more probably) of the comping workarounds the vid mentions but doesn't explain: https://patches.zone/comping-multiple-takes-ableton-live, https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/crafty-comping, https://illfactormusic.com/2016/06/comping-vocals-in-ableton-live-how-to-get-that-perfect-take/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCMqXqBG8QM. It is now retardedly cheap and comes with the most amazing content and presets probably of any DAW, not to mention you now also get mainstage and soundtrack pro. What minimum hardware do I require for each ? There are a myriad of features common to both, and certain areas that each excels in over the other one. And today i dont know what to choose between both (i only want to use one as my main). At the moment, I hardly touch Logic. Everything is very well-disposed but it has a major issue that bothers many people and that is the amount of time you spend traveling through screen windows when you're creating music. Doch welche ist die beste DAW? ” Ableton Live is ranked 6th while Logic Pro X is ranked 8th. i like them both - for me, it comes down to whether i am recording primarily live instruments or composing midi and which work-flow i desire, I prefer Logic if my basic tracks are a live drummer, bass, I reach for Logic (or Pro Tools, if the producer/artist insists) because i am accustomed to that work-flow; on my own I am probably using Live at least 50% of the time or more, and it is the only choice for a live performance for me. Archived. For example, when tracking multiple takes of the same performance, Logic will keep all these takes within one track, and afterwards you can quickly scroll through the various takes within the track. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. See how two of the biggest music-making Digital Audio Workstations -- Apple's Logic Pro X 10.5 and Ableton's Live Suite 10 -- … I love playing live. I've been using Logic since for years, I love the SW, and all its upgrades keep getting better and better. I can say that I'm confident with this daw, but i received a MacPro last christmas and i bought Logic Pro X. Jetzt … Board index Ableton Forums Music and Audio Production Logic Pro vs. Ableton Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live Both Ableton and Reason differentiated themselves from other DAWs by offering a unique approach to music production. I will only compose in Live because of how well it performs with multiple tracks, instruments and effects. I'm a new user of reddit and i would like to share a problem that i have today. Ableton Live vs Logic Pro X. I am looking at getting into producing tech house and funky house and I want to know what DAW will be the best for a beginner to learn and eventually make my own tracks? Price isn't a factor as I would be buying the standard Ableton live. Has so many nice synths they come with it and mixing seems easier. But I also love deep electronic and heavily programmed music. Con. In my opinion I was browsing through sounds way too much because all of the options. Also, Logic lets me use 100% of my cpu power as opposed to Live, which lets me use about 70%. I have tried multiple times to learn more about Logic and I just can't get into it. I would love to be better at it but I only have so much free time. 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