Stalker (1979) A poetic sense for the dreamlike hold of memory and the elemental grandeur of nature already shines through Tarkovsky’s first feature Ivan’s Childhood (1962), within the more conventional, suspenseful format of a Soviet war movie about a 12-year-old on reconnaissance at the front. From this, we can imply that these sorts of (perhaps essential) great human values had been passed along to her daughter as she was being raised...--As we next witness, in another room, the daughter herself reading a superb work of Literature, filling her mind with grand poems of Love, which can be seen as a proof of her sweet, magnificent "inner world." It is a movie with some of the most beautiful shots in cinema, a fantastic, vulnerable performance by Aleksandr Kaydanovskiy and masterful sound design. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out. My answers will follow. The Writer doesn’t want to see what his heart’s true desire actually is, he would rather sit in his nice house complaining than to actually look into his soul. Most of these movies also lack sex scenes for being 80s-90s R rated movies. Not an abstract faith, but for purposes of the story - faith in the Room (that it is a true judge of the heart, with the power to grant wishes). Looking for the Eli ending to be explained? There are suggestions of oddities, some of which make little sense without having read the novella and short stories on which this is based (such as tying strings to nuts and tossing them ahead), but little else. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Following the 2006 disaster, animals and plants have been grotesquely mutated and deadly anomalies abound. Tarkovsky rarely makes short films and seems to enjoy forced patience required in some of his films. Next there are two speeches at the climax of the movie that must be discussed. Why are they there? Point of discussion: Why did the Professor and the Writer lack faith? I think the best input I can offer here is that even though he tried to avoid it like the plague... he provided some of the most coherent symbolism of his career with Stalker likely as a result of his ongoing tensions with the Soviet Union. From an opposite angle of view, he still comes from the right, where it should have been from the left. OP gave some history on her situation with her ex before diving into the specifics that has her seeking advice. The dog which then follows The Stalker out of The Zone seems to be a literal manifestation (as well as a symbolic one) of The Zone's "living presence and sentience in the World" now expanding where it "roams.". This is the unspoken law of those who can lead others to the room. The Zone is triggering an evolutionary shift that people born before it existed struggle to understand. Or something like that. That we need an intangible, unverifiable thing to believe (or not believe) in. Let's use the end of the film as an example of the entire meaning of the movie: Stalker desired that people would have faith. One woman took to Reddit to get advice on a situation with her ex and his wife, after she and her new fiancé moved into the same neighborhood. We didn’t exactly love the ending of Eli. I just watched Stalker by Andrei Tarkovsky. 3. Who goes into the Room during the film? Because soon, at The Stalker's home, we watch as (in that beautiful monologue, which seems almost like a breaking of the Fourth Wall) The Stalker's wife reveals her utterly good heart as she speaks directly to "us" (which, I think, is actually "The Zone's perspective," as if it is reading her deepest thoughts --similar to the way the Angels hear peoples' "Truths" in Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire). Before you go judging me, watch it and tell me if you don’t yawn a couple of times over the fifteen minute shot when the leads drowsily take naps. Definitely a movie to watch. I thought the movie was great, good enough that I will definitely buy it and watch it a few more times. We take the alertness of the Stalker and their decisions as evidence of the danger, yet not the proof. Thank you :). Were you granted yours? So first go watch the movie Stalker… then ask yourself, “What did I just see?”. Something huge that I feel like a fool for overlooking. Also, I thought the writer expressed existential attitudes but the film was pretty decidedly against all of that. May be worth a look, if you're a fan of the film. I'll mull this all over and respond as soon as I can. They did not deserve the gifts of the Zone anyway. Were you granted to believe in what this story and I would say Tarkovsky was begging you to believe in… that the Room was real. Thank you - I'm humbled - can't wait to hear your thoughts. In the scene the motorcyclist comes from the right. "The ending has to be understood within the science fiction context of the whole. The Professor was actually there to destroy the room, going into something far beyond what he could explain is something he never wanted. Also, you end up finding out that what you are looking at is really something else often, and again transports you somewhere different. I think with a movie like this the last line will work. My first attempted to watch Stalker was on my bed with a laptop, and about half an hour in… I woke up for the credits. Night Stalker Updates: Now that there has been a lot of criminal series trending these days, Netflix has premiered another enticing original criminal documentary, “Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer.” This series is so attention capturing and the cheerful introduction and tunes help people to get stick with the series. Why don’t the heroes go into the Room? Interesting enough, these are the most popular views expressed by pop culture atheism of today. His rejection of posterity speaks to that, I think. I’ve read a bit of Tarkovsky’s stuff in the past and here is a quote of his: He never said that exactly - but he meant it, and oh man can he pull it off. Again and think hard - does anyone go into the Room? ...and is there a cross over into our actual world? Should we believe it, or is it a sham. That this young girl can suddenly perform "miracles" seems to suggest that the power of The Room (carried out of the Zone by The Dog) has finally found someone worthy of bestowing almost Godlike powers upon: A young, good-hearted, love-filled, undoubting girl. And the best part is you can make your own public watchlist to share with friends. Thanks for taking the time and providing feedback. Remember the warning about the old Stalker who went into the Room to heal his brother but came out rich instead - committing suicide when he realized that he wasn’t as noble as he thought. It's ultimately about having faith or not having faith. Ie. came to this forum to look for this - for some reason i don't remember reading about this after the first viewing, when i first combed reddit to read about it. Stalker/Obsession movies by heiduuds | created - 28 Aug 2016 | updated - 7 months ago | Public Movies about creepy stalkers and obsessive people. Stalker struggles with Professor trying to take the bomb away, with Writer intervening several times, tearing Stalker away from the Professor. Stalker Horror Movies. The original poster took to Reddit's AITA community in hopes of finding a consensus on what she should do. Tarkovsky made film to inspire the soul - to equip the audience to love more. But we all know it's all about the subtext. One wonders if he tried to keep it relatively subtle to avoid further tensions with them. Was he trying to tell us we need faith, faith in miracles, faith in love, faith in God to do this? We are in the Room as the audience looking back at them - and the Room will give you your heart’s true desire. after this scene, when all three are awake, the stalker talks about the logic of music (to himself). Dangerous Lies is a frustrating film, filled with teases, red herrings and never-explained sub-plots. But I didn't get the ending. But that was a "crass" miracle which ended up driving him to suicide, because it made Porcupine realize he wasn't a very good man. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. I would lke some thoughts on it, but as a fair warning, this paragraph is probably irrelevant to your post. The Stalker, The Writer, and The Professor come to similar realizations about themselves: That their secret hearts and minds are unworthy of miracles, and that they would likely be granted wishes which would haunt them, as Porcupine had been haunted. The thing about the Wish Granteris that, although it fulfills your wish, it does so in an unexpected fashion, wh… To him symbolism is a shallow attempt at good art. It all starts promising enough. 8. I think it'd be easy to interpret Stalker as an autobiographical account of his saga with the USSR. We walk slowly into a room through those beautiful antique doors to see the sleeping family. Any interpretation or characterization will need to be appended with "something like that". Mendes is Chicago's Smile Diner waitress Katie Franklin. I update this list everytime when I have watched a new movie. The Wife of the Stalker’s speech. My first attempted to watch Stalker was on my bed with a laptop, and about half an hour in… I woke up for the credits. Marrying the man with faith, joining together with faith doesn’t make the journey perfect - but it makes it worth it. Thanks for the heads-up, hadn't heard of the book, but added to my Amazon wishlist. Every clue, setback, and recalculation in Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer is satisfyingly frustrating. I understand the girl has some sort of supernatural powers, but I don't see any relevance to the film or any sort of meaning. Like Annihilation, Stalker is a heady, cerebral movie about the baggage people carry, and how it might manifest in a surreal setting that reflects people’s interior lives in unpredictable ways. I've gotta re-watch though and pick more up. Even smaller cities like Portland screen classics, just saw Vertigo in 70mm recently. We don’t even get the name of the serial killer until the end of the third episode. However, in terms of horror elements, this new Netflix horror movie did actually deliver. Maybe the old men (Stalker, Professor, Writer)- the ones who had already lived, all cynical had failed. It’s just the plot of Eli that was a bit too weird and left lots of people with a … I still wonder if this was a way of providing her a saintly aura, to let us know there was something special about her before the miracle that ends the film. We do. Maybe it was the 64 ounce caffeinated beverage I was sipping, or the socially awkward silences and creaking seats that kept 600 of us holding our breaths so as not to ruin the mood - but the tension was real, and I was riveted to the screen this time, and learned a s**tload about awesome filmmaking. (Her fine "soul" made possible because of the best attributes of her parents --most especially, her father's humble honest self-awareness.). And don’t fall into the trap of symbolism… Tarkovsky hates direct parallels with anything… he calls it shallow preaching, bad filmmaking and detests it in his or other’s films. Footage of a tiger silently observing an elephant is going viral on social media - and businessman Anand Mahindra's tweet sums up the video perfectly. 7. very late to this but i have finished watching stalker for the second time minutes ago, and only on this viewing did i notice that yes, we are the only ones who cross the threshold! The Zone of Alienation stretches between the borders of Ukraine and Belarus, and is kept protected by the Ukrainian authorities. I still haven't gotten around to watching this so can't really add anything constructive, but I know there is a superb book called 'Zona' by Geoff Dyer that is entirely about the film 'Stalker' and puzzling out it's meaning. While all of those objects matter and are intentionally put there by Tarkovsky the direct A equals B symbolism is never as impactful as the subtle emotional story that he weaves. Their destination is a room which sits at the center of this countryside, a room in which dreams are rumored to be fulfilled. Depending on your starting point, your world view, your belief systems - there is a chance our answers will be the same, and a good chance they will differ and both could simultaneously be correct interpretations, another sign of masterful art; it touches you where you are at. A discussion on Tarkovsky’s Stalker - and the possible meaning of it’s story. All Horror has you covered! It certainly changed how I view the medium, and it's an instant favorite. 6. We therefore ask the same questions the characters ask throughout. And now that I've read your post, I feel silly. "My engagement to … Without judgment it lays bare the human condition and provokes examination. Back in 2015, creator Alanah Pearce would be met with an enigmatic and extremely overbearing online viewer. The soundtrack's industrial noise during this sequence reinforces the idea that despite all our industrialization and the resulting loss of religious life, the God-mystery remains. Stalker compels us to dig within ourselves, explore our own nature, and discover our own depth. One interpretation is that the scene represents the way that there is no amount of evidence that will convince someone of something if they don’t choose to change their view. Magic. i'm not religious at all fwiw. 35 comments She still wears a shawl. Do you have faith? The four-part documentary series about serial killer Richard Ramirez, who killed people in Los Angeles and San Francisco between June 1984 to August 1985, features archival footage, photos, and interviews with survivors, victim’s families, and the detectives who help capture him. The film tells the story of an expedition led by a figure known as the "Stalker" (Alexander Kaidanovsky), who takes his two clients—a melancholic writer (Anatoly Solonitsyn) seeking inspiration, and a professor (Nikolai Grinko) seeking scientific discovery—to a mysterious restricted site known simply as the "Zone", where there supposedly exists a room which grants a person's innermost desires. In the end, that scene brings it all into focus, and takes you, as the watcher, away from an ending and back to re-examine events that are suspected and hinted. but i think it has to do with the unity of the strange apocalyptic scripture, the beautiful visuals, the eerie sense of unknowing until that point, and the subtle sound design. -That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest.-, About your particular point of "What are we given (shown) at the very end?". There are some great mysteries in the film. I would be interested to know who wrote that too. Here's one point where I differ a bit from the usual interpretation: to me, if the Writer represents the archetype of the artistic, it's rather secondary to his representing existentialism. Were you granted yours? For the purpose of making this article flow better, the narrator will be referred to by this name. Stalker was his second attempt at grappling with science-fiction sub­ject matter, after the space adventure Solaris (1972), though it is different in almost every way from that earlier film, as … In Andrei Tarkovsky’s Stalker, three men leave the confines of a rotting Eastern European city and walk through a pleasant-looking rural setting. Here you find a large monolithic crystalline structure (about 5-7 meters high); the so-called Wish Granter, a legend in its own. A trick of the artist here is that the proof of the Room, the faith in it’s reality, is always at question. Nowhere else in the movie does anything of a definitive supernatural (literally, beyond natural) occurance. Supposedly, the area is kept under l… Although I suppose it's a way of stating the same thing - existentialism sort of forces a burden of creativity on humanity that didn't previously exist. In this case - things are so intentional, so perfect - you’d be a fool to say Tarkovsky isn’t trying to “equip your soul for good” - another poorly paraphrased saying of his by me. A power beyond. What does the Room supposedly give you? Suddenly what she says to us becomes key in hearing what the parable of the master Tarkovsky is longing to share. The heart of most viewers while on the journey to the Room actually want to know if there is a power, a magic. I gotta go yeah with that, I think you're totally onto a subtle perfect use of the color grade to impact the story - such a good observation! That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest. The Zone is something of alien origin, which undoubtedly in Tarkovsky's view is a God origin, rather than one of little green men. Secondly, he shot it twice. Because we are the ones on the journey! phenomenal film. This suggestion of danger (and terror) is deliberate, and throughout the movie it provides a constant tension. i remember thinking that it was like the stalker, by way of tarkovsky, had preempted how i felt processing the dream sequence, when the music kicks in and then when it quietens down. Check out all the stalker horrors we could find below including The Hitcher, Death Becomes Her, and Cape Fear. So to answer “What was Stalker about?” I pose the following list of questions. Stalker is not a "deep" movie because digging deeper and deeper doesn't reveal depths of meaning. A discussion on Tarkovsky’s Stalker - and the possible meaning of it’s story. One thing that sticks with me about Stalker that I rarely see mentioned here is how Martiška (the daughter) is the only character in the world outside the Zone who has any sort of color and doesn't blend into the sepia tone of the world. They lacked faith because they have become so numb to the world, numb to taking risks, numb to living; so that their muscles of faith have atrophied to the point of non-existence. With Hereditary now in theaters, we take a look at the dark, disturbing, and twisted ending and try to explain what the hell happened to the characters. What's your opinion? Tarkovsky’s masterpiece Stalker recently screened at a theater in Los Angeles and I was able to stay awake for it’s entirety. First off, why is she speaking to us? Until the end of the film we take it on faith based on the characters actions. what interests me the most is the dream sequence, which i have found very profoundly moving on both viewings. Funny question you might say… but very important to see whose perspective the movie belongs too… It’s us - the viewer. really? The heyday of the subgenre was the mid 1980s to late 1990s. What is the purpose of the journey our three adventurers go on? and was marrying the Stalker the right thing to do? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We all know the story by now, so director Tiller Russell can leisurely fill in the plot. Point of discussion: What did happiness through sorrow mean to the wife? During this speech, the wife reveals that she had married her man out of Love, even though she knew this likely meant a very hard, financially insecure life. Your initial answer might be no-one… but wait! Both the novel and the games are among my favourites of all time so I’m quite excited to round out my … Due to problems with the shooting stock, the dismissal of waves of unsatisfactory assistants by Tarkovsky, and a complete rethinking of the script, Stalker … I happened to see this for the first time three days ago, not knowing anything about the film or Tarkovsky. 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